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Dec. 2, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 2, 2011, Friday, Hour #3
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All right.
New York Times is out with a story that Trump is going to moderate a Republican presidential debate in Des Moines, Iowa in January.
No, December.
Later this month, December 27th.
It is for our buddies over at Newsmax, Chris Ruddy and the gang.
And Trump, well, Trump, the New York Times says that what they're going to be debating, the subject matter, is going to be education and the environment.
All right.
I'm going to have to do something about that.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's Open Line Friday.
The environment?
The environment?
Well, that's what it said up there on MSNBC.
What is there to debate about education or the environment?
The environment is a setup.
Anyway, greetings, welcome back.
It's Open Line Friday.
And I, Rush Limbaugh, honest to God, folks, some days I think I feel like I'm the only smart person alive.
I hear stuff like this that what in the name of Sam Hill?
And there was a Sam Hill.
What?
Anyway, Trump's doing this with Newsmax on December 27th in Demoan and in education and the environment.
Also, the Washington Post is reporting Herman Kane will probably drop out of the presidential race tomorrow, is what they say.
Embattled presidential candidate Herman Kane inviting his top supporters and donors to Atlanta on Saturday for a meeting in which he will give them advance word of whether he intends to continue his campaign.
Sources close to the campaign said today, one supporter who has been summoned to the private session said he believes that Kane is likely to announce he is ending his candidacy.
But nobody really knows.
Other outlets are also saying Kane is going to do a major announcement tomorrow.
So the Washington Post may have advance word on this.
Now, Herman Kane's in South Carolina today.
Today is supposed to be when he tells his wife for the first time what went on with Ginger White.
Now, I've been watching Herman Kane.
South Carolina does not have a black eye.
There don't appear to be any bruises anywhere on epidermis.
At least that's visible.
Speaking of, you know, Gingrich and this teaching poor kids, any kids to work, is on to something.
There's an AP story today that illustrates the federal government has been working for generations to stop children from learning how to work.
This is an AP story.
Let me read it to you.
Very short.
U.S. Labor Department is proposing new rules for child farm workers that would keep many from driving tractors, using big equipment, and working with animals.
Labor officials say the rules are needed because farming is one of the nation's most dangerous occupations.
Farmers say the proposed rules could keep kids from learning about the hard work and responsibility necessary to work on a farm.
Oklahoma's farm bureau president, Mike Spreadling, says that he knows there are dangers in agriculture, but there are also many important lessons that young people can learn.
But the feds, the U.S. Labor Department, with new rules that will not allow children to learn anything about heavy equipment or animals while working on a farm, which sort of defeats the purpose, does it not?
So, the idea here they have to go to this farm bureau president in Oklahoma to defend the concept of work to defend the concept that young people can learn important lessons from hard work.
They had to actually go get somebody say that because it's not considered standard operating procedure or a tradition or common sense anymore.
Now, I'm going to do it again.
I'm going to violate my old tenet because I think it matters.
I do remember my grandfather.
My grandfather was born in the late 1800s.
He lived to be 103 and grew up on a farm.
And every day before school, he and his brothers and sisters got up and they did farm chores.
They milked cows, they plowed, they did this.
Then they came in and ate breakfast and then went to school.
They came home and then continued doing work on the farm.
Now, granted, there weren't tractors back then.
They had to follow mules.
But that was what the family did, and everybody pitched in.
And it wasn't, there wasn't a second thought given when you refused to work is when you became ostracized.
Now, I realize times are different now, and farming is different than it was then.
And the way people feed ourselves is different.
It's over 100 years ago.
I understand that.
But the concept doesn't change.
Man, I had a hunch that the whole concept of work now is becoming tainted.
And you look at Occupy Wall Street, look at who they're mad at.
They're mad at the people that build things.
They're mad at the people that accomplish things.
They're mad at the people that cheap things and think those people somehow ought to be made to give it all up.
When it used to be that those were the people that were admired, people that built the Transcontinental Railroad, people that built all the buildings, the bridges, you name it.
These people were revered.
Now they are the enemy.
Their equivalents today are the enemy.
And the irony is work is a four-letter word, and yet life's losers want high-paying jobs without work.
Why are we sending kids to college if work is such a tainted concept?
We're sending them to college for indoctrination.
We're educating with worthless degrees.
They come out not knowing how to do anything, and they blame people who have gone a different route.
It's amazing.
It literally is amazing to watch this.
It's right before our very eyes.
This transformation is taking place.
And let's go to PMS NBC, Zbigniew Zhazhinsky, sheer lunacy this morning on Scarborough Show.
Sheer lunacy.
This is Jimmy Carter's former national security advisor, the head honcho.
He was the Henry Kissinger of the Carter administration.
Zbigniew Zhazhinsky, get this.
The United States is becoming rapidly one of the most socially unjust societies in the world.
And that is raising basic questions about the relevance of the West to a world that is now universally awakened, stirring, restless, conflicted.
Social disparities between the rich and the poor in the United States are now the most severe in the world.
There is a measure called the Gini coefficient that measures social inequality.
And the United States is at the top of the list.
The what?
The genie coefficient?
And the United States is now at the top of the list.
I feel like I'm listening to a bond villain here.
The United States rapidly becoming one of the most socially unjust societies in the world.
The area of foreign policy in which I excel, I alone permitted to make this judgment.
And I look at the United States and I see this widening gap of rich and poor.
I myself am rich, but I deserve to be rich because I'm smarter than all the rest of you plebes.
But nevertheless, I deserve to be rich and I deserve to pay no taxes because I'm smarter than the rest of you.
But the social unjustness of our culture and our society, what it really means is I'm not being invited to the right parties anymore because I work for that dumb cough, Jimmy Carter.
What are we talking about here?
One of the most socially unjust societies.
Zbigniew Zhazhinsky.
And he wasn't finished.
Secondly, do you know that in America, if you are born poor, your chances of dying richer than your parents are lower now than in Europe?
Europe has more social mobility upwards than America.
That is a very serious problem.
That is also equally absurd.
Now these people are just making it up.
And I'm just throwing it up against the wall and hoping it'll stick.
Of course, he's talking about since Obama came into office, but it's not because of Obama.
It happened when Obama came into office, but it's not because of Obama.
Obama is doing everything he can to write the ship.
Obama is doing everything he can to shrink this gap of social unjustification, justness, make us more like the prosperous nations of Europe.
And so for the banks barely able to stay open.
The last I looked.
Holy crap, folks.
All right.
By the way, if you're wondering, the genie coefficient, that's not a genie in a bottle.
The genie coefficient that Zbigniew Zhazinski was referring to here is a guy by the name of Genie.
G-I-N-I, and he wrote a book, a paper called the Scientific Basis of Fascism in 1927.
This is who Zbigniew Zezinski happens to be citing.
Mussolini loved it.
Mussolini thought the scientific basis of fascism.
1927 was fabulous.
This guy, Genie, Corrado Geni, was his name, Corrado, he's May 23rd, or 1884, died in 1965 in March.
He was big on controlling the population.
He was Italy's Margaret Sanger.
He established the Italian Committee for the Study of Population Problems.
He was a statistician, demographer, sociologist, and he developed what is called a genie coefficient.
It's a measure of the income inequality in a society.
He was a fascist theorist and ideologue who wrote the scientific basis of fascism in 1927.
And that's who Zbigniew Jezynski is citing.
And that's how he is arriving at the notion, a fascist theory to explain income inequality in the United States.
Now, this next soundbite's going to make you think it's working.
Dr. Frank Luntz.
Dr. Frank Luntz was in Orlando, Florida on Wednesday at the Republican Governors Association.
And Dr. Frank Luntz said this.
I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort.
I'm frightened to death.
Okay, they should occupy a job and take a bath.
I get that joke.
But man, they're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism.
And so I'm trying to get that word removed and replace it with either economic freedom or free market.
So Frank Luntz, favored pollster of Fox News, is now telling Republican governors, don't use the word capitalism.
It hurts us.
Frank Luntz is trying to get the word capitalism removed from the conservative Republican lexicon and instead replace it with either economic freedom or free market.
Frank Luntz says he is, I'm so scared of the anti-Wall Street effort.
I am frightened to death.
They're about disbanded, aren't they?
They've migrated to where it's a little warmer than it was.
I mean, I've got 15 of them to show up the other night.
Obama got 100 of them.
I mean, what is there to be afraid of for crying out loud?
But there you have it.
I mean, there's capitulation.
Now we can't use the word, we've got, we've got, and lunch, I got to tell you, these Republican types will listen to him.
Luntz plays the role that George Lackoff rhymes with the Democrats.
He's a pollster consultant advisor, communications specialist, and so forth.
And so now, can't say the word capitalism scares people to death.
That's bad.
Capitalism, oh, that's how you lose elections.
No, don't say capitalism.
Free markets or economic freedom.
You can't say capitalism.
So once again, we dumb down ourselves.
We dumb down ourselves in order not to offend the uninformed, ill-informed, malinformed, uneducated, whatever.
Don't want to offend the Occupy people.
And we don't want to offend the people who like the Occupy people.
And we don't want to offend the people who believe the Occupy people are making sense.
Roger in Pittsburgh, Kansas.
No H on Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, Kansas.
Welcome to the program.
Hi.
Hey, Rush, thanks.
It's an honor.
You bet, sir.
I wanted to, if you can tolerate one more caller talking about Newt, something about his comment really stood out to me.
He sounded like some kind of a Soviet-era commissar wanting to make it another government program to create jobs.
Interesting take.
The Soviet-era commissar to teach the kids how to work.
Right.
If that were the kid, the left would have loved it.
Well, I was kind of wavering on maybe going ahead and hoping that Gingrich could actually stay conservative and not make any more mistakes.
I'm definitely a small government conservative guy, and Gingrich, it seems like he's more just a big government guy with some conservative leanings.
And that's what makes me.
There are a lot of people who have that fear of Newt Gingrich.
And it's deserved.
I mean, he's done some things, said some things that raise legitimate questions here about how deep the conservatism goes and just how tied to establishment Washington he is.
Exactly.
And the thing in that that stood out was he starts talking about, well, we can maybe come up with some jobs like assistant janitor or librarian's helper or something.
And that just struck me immediately as the kind of thing you would see in the Soviet Union.
Everybody's guaranteed a job.
I'm not defending Newt here, but I just want to, I do know him.
And if you spend any time around him at all, he's going to have 100 of those thoughts a day.
Right.
And some of them are going to end up being broadcast.
Sure.
And it just terrifies me to have a person with that mindset.
He doesn't say, let's shrink welfare and out of necessity people will work.
No, instead, he says, let's find ways to work.
No, but he did shrink welfare.
He was the architect of welfare reform.
He was largely responsible with a lot of other Republicans for forcing it on Clinton.
And you're right, and that still gives me a little bit of hope, and I'm just terrified when I hear sound bites like that.
Well, now, I didn't hear a Soviet commissar there.
No, no, it's just in the, you played the clip a few times.
It was in the last couple sentences or the last half of that little soundbite where he comments about different ways of getting people to work.
Well, I just thought he was sounding the schools ought to be a little bit more realistic.
Why are they in school?
What is the ultimate reason anybody's in school?
It's to get a job.
It's to learn how to feed yourself without killing somebody.
Exactly.
But it just seemed like his take on it, and I could just see this turning into some government program where people are offered tax breaks if they hire somebody on welfare.
Oh, well, see, he didn't say that.
I know he didn't say that, and I realize I'm reading some into that, but that's where I'm at.
Anytime a politician is a good idea.
You know what you heard?
You heard him say that, and your question was, because you're a small government Republican and you're worried about the debt and you know we don't have any money and you're, okay, where are we going to get the money to pay him?
That's what you will.
There you go.
And so you're thinking, okay, where are we going to get the money?
So here's Newt.
He's a Washington guy.
Government will do it.
And that's a red flag for you, right?
It is.
See, that's why I'm host.
I know what callers are saying, even when they're not sure how to say it.
Help me, Maha Rushi.
Well, I'm happy to do that.
And that's a legitimate, you know, when you are a capital C conservative and you know that we don't have any money and one of the problems is the government's trying to be the solution to everything, throwing money here or there, and you hear the putative leader of the polls on our side running around proposing essentially a new spending program.
Your red flags go up.
Now, this spending program, however, has a component.
There is work to be done here.
This is not welfare.
This is not being paid to do nothing.
The motivation or the objective here, teaching people to work, to feed themselves, to have that concept, getting up, going somewhere, doing something, being paid for it.
I don't find anything wrong with it.
Sorry.
All right, I got an email here in a bunch of them.
Come on, Rush.
What do you really think of this Frank Lunt's business?
You're just getting sloughing off.
All right, I'll tell you everything that Frank Lunt's business.
It frustrates me.
A Republican consultant running around saying, we stopped using the word capitalism.
I'm really afraid of the Wall Street crowd and so forth.
You know me, folks, I don't think we run from them.
I think we take it to them.
Why do we let them redefine words?
Why do we let them have control of the language?
Why do we cede this stuff to them?
It's not about changing who we are.
Okay, you see, tell Republicans, don't say that and don't do that and don't go there and don't do that.
It's going to be seen.
Oh, no, no, don't do that.
Why do we got a guy who we all know the economic circumstance of the country?
We've got somebody who cannot possibly run on his economic record.
What are we afraid to compare our beliefs with Obama's?
Are we afraid to compare our beliefs with the Occupy Wall Street people?
If we're not going to do that, at the end of the day here, if we are not going to compare and contrast our beliefs with Obama's and the left's, and if we're not going to do it today, when the nation is experiencing the consequences of left-wing policies, then when will we?
At some point, we've got to stand up for who we are.
At some point, we are conservatives, and this is how we envision the country, and it ain't what's happening now.
When are we going to defend this country's greatness and explain to people why it's great rather than capitulate?
I don't know, folks.
I think it's just, it boils down to the fact that the establishment of the Republican Party is not really conservative.
That's all this means.
It's all this really is.
They're just not really conservative.
Quasi sometimes on certain things, but something wrong when we sit around and take ourselves apart rather than the other side.
You got articles out there all over the place today in the conservative world again about Newt and Kane and how bad they are and about how horrible they are.
We don't have any stories anywhere about how bad Obama is, how bad Obama has been.
We don't have any story about how bad Pelosi and Reed or any of that is.
No, no, we got stories about how rotten Kane is.
And you can listen to the callers to this program.
I don't like this.
I don't like this candidate.
It mirrors the coverage in mainstream media.
One way to explain this, I think, is all of us are so much more informed on every candidate and that candidate's views today than we ever have been that it's making it awfully difficult to find anybody perfect.
We know every flaw.
We know flaws that we didn't know about people before.
And I just, I think that it lends itself to people thinking nobody's worth it.
Nobody's good enough because we know all of these flaws.
So now communism is a hip word.
We can have Andy Stern writing a piece of Wall Street Journal.
We've got to become more like the Chinese communists, and that's a romantic notion.
And capitalism is evil.
What planet are we on?
We're just going to sit here and concede that Obama has succeeded in making capitalism a dirty word, that work is a dirty word, that work is a dirty concept?
Okay, next we're going to hear, let's not talk about people working.
It's going to offend all the people that can't.
It's going to offend all the people that don't, and you're going to stigmatize you.
It's going to make those people that are not working feel bad.
They're going to hate you and are going to vote for Democrats.
Is that the way we're going to think about this?
Is that how we're going to be advising candidates?
Let's do this.
How many millions of people is communism killed?
And how many millions of people is capitalism killed?
How many millions of people is communism fed?
many millions of people's capitalism fed.
Now, the caller, upset with Newt and the whole concept of work.
I knew it.
I understand exactly why.
This guy is, he was a capital C conservative.
What he was saying is, why does the federal government have to get involved in something as simple as people working?
Because this guy, what he knows is once the government gets involved, it never stops.
Even if the intention, the motivation, supposedly he's honorable.
And how many times have we been through that?
Our problem isn't that there's too little government.
Our problem is that there's way too much.
You cannot fix the culture by expanding government programs.
Government programs have to shrink.
Government has to get out of people's lives.
And don't forget Newt.
Newt complained.
Remember, Paul Ryan had his Medicare fix.
And Newt was out there saying it's his right-wing, what did he call it, social engineering.
So Newt was complaining that Paul Ryan's plan was conservative interference with private activity.
It was not.
Back to the phones, because it's Open Line Friday.
And we go to Albany in New York.
Dave, welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello, sir.
20 plus years of Ditto's Trush.
Thanks for the education and certainly the joy on the airways.
I've really appreciated it over all these years.
Thank you, sir, very much.
You know, I know that you are absolutely not only a sentimental type, but you are also the caring type, the loving, ahmaha, rushy that you are.
I've got an idea for you, Rush, and I honestly think you'll like it.
I hope you do anyway.
And this is for all the Occupy folks because I know you care about them.
And I know you love the military and you love a lot of the things they do.
I'm a member of the military myself.
How about a Toys for Snots program?
Toys for Snots, all the snots down on Occupy Wall Street.
You could throw them out toys like You Owe Me Elmo.
You know, where you pull the string and it says, healthcare isn't right, or something like that.
Or that's the rich.
Or, you know, where's my job?
Maybe we could have sponge off taxpayers or Captain AmeriCorps.
You know, he stands for Deceit, Social Justice, and the Marxist Way.
I just thought you, as Santa Rush, could come down the street in a big open sleigh like Dom from Macy's, because you know how much they love Macy's.
Go right down to Wall Street chucking out all these you owe me Elmos and everything.
What do you think?
I love it.
I absolutely love it.
And play off of Toys for Touch.
I first became aware of Toys for Tots when I was working in Pittsburgh and the radio station had a joint thing going with the Pittsburgh Penguins at the time.
And we'd go to shopping malls and late in the afternoon to stay with the Marines and do Toys for Tots and so forth.
It was a hoot.
It was fun.
One of the most recent times I've been to a mall, it would be 1970, it would have been 73, 73.
I even did one with former Pittsburgh Steeler John Frenchie Fuqua, number 33, the guy that showed up with goldfish in the heels of his shoes.
John Frenchie Fuqua.
And yeah, he's a great guy.
And it was Pittsburgh people will no doubt remember him and the goldfish in the heels of the shoes.
And now, 2F by T Associated with Marines, Toys for Snots.
Giant Slay at Occupy Toys for Snots.
That's one of those things I wish I had thought of myself.
But the problem, who's somebody has to tell the Toys for Snots, Snots that there's no Santa.
Who gets that job?
Who draws that response?
Jay in So-So, Mississippi.
Well, it's kind of like Show Low, Arizona.
Great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Great to be here, Rush.
I appreciate what you do for us.
Thank you.
Look, the caller that called earlier, I had the same flags he did when I heard Newt's work program suggestion.
But then I recall we had a similar setup.
I think it might have been a state program in Mississippi in the late 70s and early 80s called Yippie.
Yippie was an acronym, and I can't remember what it stood for, but it was after-school work, and it was janitorial, yard care, all within the school system.
And there was a lot of competition for those jobs.
Yeah, yeah.
And now there isn't any competition for it.
It's a steam.
You propose it, and you are some kind of a creep.
Well, I'm a capital C Christian, a capital C conservative, and I don't want another government program, but that one, to my recollection, it has to be well in South Mississippi.
Look at, I'm not so sure Newt was talking about a new government program.
I didn't specify, but you could say that you could take dollars from the existing school's budget, the existing education, but you didn't.
We wouldn't need any new dollars.
Now everybody would fight us on this, but you could divert some of the redundant, wasteful dollars that we're already spending on education.
We're not talking about paying these kids six-figure salaries.
That's for when they become adult janitors for the SEIU.
And you try to get one of those guys' jobs, it will break your bones.
In New York City, janitors own yachts.
60 Minutes profiles them for all the stuff they got in a home in the garage.
They make six-figure salaries.
And if you try to take their job, you will have an arm less or a knee busted or some such thing.
But we're not talking about that here.
I'm sure Newt's talking about paying these kids what minimum wage to 50 cents.
Who knows whatever it is?
Just to establish a behavior that wouldn't require a new stash of money.
It certainly wouldn't require a new government program.
But I can understand people thinking that, oh, gosh, I don't know.
Here's a guy from Washington proposing spending more.
I know how people could arrive at the thought that Newt was proposing a new government program as a Washington guy.
was that uh yeah try that They're already there for lunch and dinner.
May as well make them work.
Yeah, sing for your supper, kid.
We're going to start serving you dinner here at school, too.
I think you could.
I wonder if they have to clean up their own tables after lunch.
You have to take the tray anywhere.
is get up and leave and the school nurse comes along and picks it up I want to leave you and Frank Luntz and every Republican candidate out there every governor everybody showed up what has been going on in this country since 2008 is not capitalism
capitalism is not responsible for what's happened to this country since 2008 Barack Obama is Capitalism does not need to be defended.
Capitalism is not responsible for all of this unemployment and economic degradation.
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