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Nov. 29, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 29, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #3
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Great to be with you.
America's anchor man is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein sitting in, no supporting paperwork whatsoever, but taking taking the first tentative step on Newt's path to legality.
I don't know.
A lot of a lot of Newt fans are annoyed with me for what I've been saying about Newt.
So uh I think when I come up before the first Green Card Review Board, I'm pretty much certain to be uh to be voted down.
I had enough time in the by the way, under the president administration, uh because uh after Aunt Zaitoone uh they decided uh Obama's Aunt Zaitoone had her deportation order revoked, they reassigned it to me.
Uh but I'm I'm standing one step ahead of the border patrol, so I'm uh I'm okay for the moment.
But they're they're saying uh people are saying, well, you know, you don't like Newt and you don't like look, it's not a question of who you like, this is who it is.
The the guys you like don't get into the f Paul Ryan, for example, gave a terrific answer, I think it was to the American Enterprise Institute the other day essentially um, you know, uh uh supporting my thesis, which is that the debt is not the problem, but is a mere symptom of the problem, and he and he was looking at the broader uh issues uh underlying it, and I thought, well, that's that was a perfect answer.
I'd love to hear some guy say something like that in the debate, but Paul Ryan decided not to run, and um you know, uh uh the other guys decided not to run.
These this is who this is who it is.
And uh the field determines, you know, Mitt had all the money, and so the race was to be the unmit, the unromney, and various guys tried for the unromney role, including Rick Perry, who is supposed to l be the big conservative glamour boy we'd all be uh pining for.
And he wasn't.
He wasn't.
He just uh he he he shrank in the course of that first debate.
It's tough, it's cruel.
But you're running for president of the United States.
This is my problem with Richard in Lakeland, Florida, uh, you know, who says, Oh, well, you compared you you you made a crack comparing Harman Kane to Wilt Chamberlain.
So what?
He's running for President of the United States.
He's running for president of the United States.
You think you think me making a Wilt Chamberlain crack is tough?
Wait until the uh Chinese Politburo come and say we'd like our fifteen trillion dollars.
You know, the that's this is grown-up stuff.
This is grown up stuff.
And the guys uh if you if you get into the game by by the way, I heard um Governor Sununu, the former uh Governor of New Hampshire, John Sununu, uh make an interesting point that he said, by the time you run for president, you have to know uh who you are and what your world view is.
You can't do like uh Harman Cain say, well, you know, I'm gonna have smart guys and they're gonna tell me what to think, and I'm gonna have uh advisors and I'm gonna listen to my commanders in the field.
You've got to know what your end game is.
If you're gonna be the commander in chief, uh you've got to have a view of what you think the end game looks like in Afghanistan.
You can't wait to till it comes off the fax machine from the guy in Kandahar.
Sorry, uh sorry if you're a Herman Kane fan, but it's simply not credible.
You've got to have thought about those things.
By the time you run for president, by the time you're forty-five, fifty, fifty-five, sixty, sixty-five, and you're running for president of the United States, if you haven't thought about this stuff, that says something about you, and people are entitled to draw their conclusions.
So these are the guys we got.
These are the guys we got now.
And uh whoever whichever one it is, I'll do my best to uh to to make sure he gets across the finish line and defeats Obama, because I think a second Obama term would be as disaster more disastrous for this country than a second Jimmy Carter term would have been.
Under a second Jimmy Carter term, uh the the the West would somehow have contrived to lose the Cold War, uh, even though the uh Warsaw Pact was all but kaput.
But a second Jimmy Carter term would have uh would have handed them victory in that.
I think actually the stakes are even higher this time round.
I think we're talking about the uh the future of Western civilization.
Uh and uh and uh whichever one of these guys it is is a better bet to save that than uh than Barack Obama.
But the but the fact of the m but the fact of the matter is that what is as I always say, what's important here is to move the meter on public conversation.
Uh Mitt Romney, whatever he really believes on any of these issues, Mitt Romney uh is more right wing than he was uh five years ago, and more right wing than he was ten years ago, and more right wing than he was twenty years ago.
And the reason for that uh is because the meter has been moved on public conversation.
It's the classic Milton Friedman thing.
You know, instead of waiting to elect the right people to do the right things, you force the wrong people to do the right things.
Because generally speaking, politics at attracts a lot of the wrong people, uh whether it's uh whoever it is.
Uh and uh and if you create the conditions whereby uh the uh the wrong people are forced to do the right things, that's actually more effective than just waiting for a guy who sounds like he agrees with you to come along.
So whoever wins, Mitt Newt, whoever wins in Iowa, whoever wins in New Hampshire, whoever wins the nomination, I'll do my best to drag him across the finish line uh because they're they're better than Obama.
But there's no point pretending these people are perfect, and to get mad because you know, Herman, nobody did any of this to Herman Cain.
Harman Cain knows his past.
Herman Cain knows what's out there.
And when this stuff comes up, uh you gotta be you've got to have a better response than Herman Cain did when he was on uh TV last night.
Doesn't matter whether you're he basically gave the same excuse that he did about Libya.
He's gonna, you know, he's he's he doesn't want to say anything more about this woman until he's ha had uh until his experts have looked at all the facts uh and told him what to say.
It doesn't work on Libya and it doesn't work when a woman accuses you of having a uh a 13 year uh uh affair.
That is uh uh and that is the the Slater play in the Republican race.
So we're gonna take uh we've got to take uh your calls.
Newt, by the way, has been uh made a barn storming appearance in Charleston, South Carolina.
He said, We will rebuild the country we love.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Uh he's uh he's swinging through South Carolina, his first public appearance since he was endorsed by the Union Leader here in uh New Hampshire.
Uh he challenged the audience to think critically about the future.
W I'm uh I'm quoting from uh National Review's uh coverage of his a uh nationalreview.com, his coverage of uh their coverage of his appearance down there.
We have to come back to grips with the decision about who we are, he says.
The crowd apparently loved it.
Uh there were hundreds of uh voters turned out in a relatively sleepy coastal town uh to hear him and to hear his message, and uh he wowed he wowed the crowd, apparently, and R. C. Hammond, Newt's spokesman, thinks that uh quote, if we do well in Iowa, do well in New Hampshire and win South Carolina and win Florida, that's the first opportunity for a knockout puncher Mitt Romney, says R. C. Hammond.
Down goes Willard.
He chuckles.
Down goes Willard.
So R. C. Hammond is already salivating over over the uh endorsement by the Union leader and what it could do to change the dynamic of the race.
These uh these are the guys we've got.
And who g we who gets look, the union leader is is uh is I guess if if you look in terms of uh circulation, it's uh about down with the equivalent of uh uh you you're in Florida, Mr. Snardley.
Dow whatever your local paper is in West Palm Beach, not the Palm Beach Post, but not the Palm Beach Post, but the one in West Palm Beach.
That's apparently what the uh what the circulation of the Union lead.
Well Well, the Union leader is a very influential voice in the great state of uh of New Hampshire.
And well well, I'll tell you, look at it, look at it this way.
You've got to look at it this way, in the the way the uh nominating process works.
Uh there's nothing to do to for New Hampshire to protect its brand as the first primary, it has to go for someone other than Iowa.
So that if Iowa, for example, last time around, Iowa went for Mike Huckabee.
If New Hampshire had gone for uh Mike Huckabee, it would have been a way of saying, well, you know, Iowa's the critical one, and New Hampshire just falls in line.
So New Hampshire just has to go for something different.
Then when you look at the dynamic within New Hampshire, uh there's always a candidate who sucks up all the establishment endorsements.
The uh the congressmen uh and the senators and so forth.
Uh that was uh Mitt it's usually the guy whose turn it is, whether it's Bob Dole or whether it's uh whether it's uh Bob Dole or George W. Bush, uh, or this time round Mitt Romney.
Now, uh the union leader figures that actually there's a segment of the New Hampshire uh electorate that wants the non-establishment candidate that likes the scrappy insurgent.
Sometimes the scrappy insurgent is uh a fellow like John McCain, sometimes it's Pat Buchanan.
And this year they figure that the scrappy insurgent that uh that cranky plaid clad, stump toothed granite staters uh will go for is um is Newt Gingrich.
I uh you know, we'll see whether they're right on that.
But that's that's the that's the thing here, Mr. Snowdley.
It's not that anyone thinks the union leader is suddenly, you know, the m the wealthiest and most powerful newspaper in America and it's gonna buy out the uh New York Times.
Although, you know, you can you can mock the union leader, but I'd I'd be much happier if the union leader did buy the New York Times.
But that's the that's the thinking.
So we've come down to Newt versus Mitt uh and Mitt versus Newt.
Now I feel sorry for that.
I mean uh uh I would have liked a bit more of a choice.
As I said, uh I I like Yeah, what's the Yes.
Oh now, mist Mr. Surley, Mr. Surly is writhing the light of why should because New Hampshire uh ms Mr. Snelly points out that New Hampshire is like ninety-nine point nine nine nine percent white.
And uh it's an untypical state.
It's uh it doesn't celebrate diversity, it's ninety-nine percent uh white, uh it's uh ninety-eight percent plaid wearing, it's ninety-seven percent cranky, uh it's ninety-six percent flinty, uh, and that this is not a typical state, it doesn't have a lot of union workers and all the rest of it.
Why do we let New Hampshire have a disproportionate sta say in who becomes president of the United States?
And the thing is that normally it works is because this is you need a small state to do retail politics in.
You couldn't do that if you're in Florida, you can do it if you're in California.
This time round, actually none of that's come into play because it's been the debates that have made most of the running, I would argue.
And uh and they and it hasn't been about uh flipping pancakes at the pancake breakfast and uh and and uh like uh you know, John Kerry and Teresa Hines, they uh they have to go to the Littleton Diner and Theresa Hines has to pretend that she's familiar with uh ketchup.
All the time they went to where was it, they went to Wendy's, and uh Theresa Hines asked what chili was.
And it was explained to her that it's a popular meat-based dish uh that is widely consumed in the United States of America.
And uh she nodded her head thoughtfully.
And I used to love that's what I used to love about the uh the US political process, that it was all about the Elk's Lodge, it was all about the county fair and all the rest of it.
And New would have been terrible at that.
I wouldn't want to see Newt flipping pancakes, but instead it came down to debates, and Newt did well in the debates, and that's the way it goes.
Something has happened, something has changed.
It's been a very weird process.
Uh we're gonna take your calls on Newt vs.
Mitt, Mitt versus Newt, where the process goes from here.
1800, 282-2882 Mark Stein Inforush.
Mark Mark Stein Inforush on the EIB network, and uh I d I just got an email uh saying, well, uh I wouldn't expect you to like uh any of these candidates.
You're uh you're a foreigner.
Yeah, that's uh that's that's true.
That's right.
Um the the the car engine is running.
And I'm uh actually heading to uh Toronto straight after the show.
I'm gonna be there, I think uh whatever it is, uh giving a speech there Thursday.
So uh if you're listening to our Toronto affiliate, which is non-existent, because this show, of course, would qualify as a hate crime in the Dominion of Canada, uh, then do then do come along.
Uh but uh the day there is a Toronto affiliate for the Rush Limbaugh show, you'll know that Russia's had to flee the country and will be having to beam himself in like pirate radio from uh beyond the borders.
Let's go to Dan in Waldo, Wisconsin.
Dan, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Thanks for waiting.
Great to have you with us.
Hey, Mark.
Um I was waiting so long that I kind of changed my my opinion on a couple or not my opinion, but my topic.
Uh what's what the principles is is, I guess what it boils down to.
It seems like none of the candidates except for maybe one has any principles left, and I think that's what the American people need to look for.
Herman Keene, yeah, I mean, he's very uneducated, and it seems like he's taken uh uh presidential politics for dummies course or something.
And Mitt Romney doesn't have any principles because he changes his mind on everything.
Newt Gingrich I mean, you want principles.
I mean, he took money from Freddie Mac or Fannie Me.
We want a president that is gonna downsize and get rid of them companies because they're not gonna be able to do that.
Well, there shouldn't be public.
There shouldn't be a Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.
Exactly.
Uh but by by the by the 2008 uh crash, uh Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had a piece of uh over fifty percent of the mortgages in the United States and they came close to taking out the entire global financial system and the um the the US property market still hasn't recovered from that if you look at uh if I mentioned Canada a couple of moments ago just because I'm uh fleeing there after the show but one advantage Canada has is that uh it doesn't have a Fanymale or
Freddie Mac it doesn't have a subprime mortgage in in other words the government didn't gerrymander both the banking system and uh the property market uh to the extent that it did down here.
So so I would like a candidate who wants to abolish Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and a guy who's taken a big bunch of money from it isn't exactly what I'm looking uh looking for.
Just to just to go back though uh to your original point before you said you'd kind of changed your view on things what did you want to what do you want to talk about uh originally Dan I've been more and more into politics this year than I've ever been and I I go around I've been joining some Tea Party groups and stuff and I talk to people and they Yeah we need to cut everything.
We need to reform Social Security we need to cut all these welfare programs we need to get rid of uh some of the things like you mentioned before all these ridiculous grants for things but then the minute you mention anything about military cutting they they like run away from you and look like look look look at you like you're Obama.
But they spent three hundred and ninety million dollars putting up cell phone towers in Afghanistan last year.
These are things we need to cut too well you're you're right on that.
I'm uh I'm a I like to think I'm as right wing as I get I'm hawkish as they can get I'm a national security conservative but the United States is responsible for forty three percent of global military spending.
It outspends uh China, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Japan, Canada, Australia, India, Israel, the whole bunch of them combined.
Exactly.
And you don't and you don't get the sense that we've got a lot to show for it.
I mean nobody you mentioned the cell phone towers we're putting up in Afghanistan.
Nobody thinks the problem in Afghanistan is is that the Pentagon hasn't spent enough money.
The problem in Afghanistan is that so much of the money has been wasted.
And I I entirely accept the premise that uh when when you're uh when you're spending four trillion dollars but only raising uh two trillion dollars everything's got to take a cut.
Everything's got to be cut.
And that gets back to to to the point Dan about uh you know what matters in Afghanistan is not how much money you're spending.
You can spend all the money you can have all the best equipment you can have everything you can have the best equipped uh military that has ever existed in human history and if you don't have strategic clarity or strategic will uh then that money is all just going to be d uh thrown down a big hole in the hole in the ground.
Uh it's not about it's not about the budget.
It's about making sure that money is spent uh in the right way Dan.
Well what about uh but people overcomplexify everything.
If if you were living in Charles Bronson land or dirty hairy land where where you're worried about people killing and taking over your house would you be better served spreading your your guns and ammunition out at all your neighbors' houses or should you keep all your weaponry at home and build up your own arsenal to protect yourself when you do get attacked.
Well you you Well you you're getting in slightly Ron Paul territory for my taste there, Dan but I'll put it this I'll put it this way that I think you can do a lot more in Afghanistan with a lot less.
And in fact having unlimited resources which the Pentagon does which the United States military does can get in the w and that's by the way again not to keep hammering on Herman Kane but that's why strategic clarity is important.
You gotta know you got to know what the mission is.
You are the commander in chief you have to identify the mission.
You have to have an end game in Afghanistan.
It's not a question of uh some guy in uh in in in uh in in Kandahar uh or Boast or Lascar calling up and saying you know well we we could use uh uh uh a couple dozen more Humvees and you saying oh sure fine I'm listening to my commanders in the field uh it's uh that's why uh and and again to go back to what you were talking about principles.
What matters here uh events uh as uh the British Prime Minister Harold McMillan always used to say you know events uh what what did he fear most in in the year ahead and he said events dear boy events and that's true events throw you off course uh there's an uprising in uh in Libya.
You didn't expect it.
There's uh something's going on on the uh in China, you didn't expect it.
Events happen.
Uh but a a serious candidate understands that whatever the world throws at him, uh, he has a coherent world view to interpret those events.
Uh that's that's why uh it's not about, as Herman Cain snears, knowing the name of the deputy trade minister of Tajikistan or whatever his joke was, uh, but it's about having a coherent world view that when something goofy happens on the other side of the world, uh you understand it fits into a coherent political philosophy, you understand what the United States national interest as a nation state is uh and have a clear-eyed view of what you want to do about it.
Uh and this idea that it's uh just some sort of uh wonky type thing uh to be expected to know anything about stuff, uh I think is uh I think it's pathetic, Franklin, there's no point taking it seriously.
Mark Stein for Rush, lots more straight ahead.
Yes, great to be with you live from Newt Crazed New Hampshire, where Newt fever is rampaging across the granite state from the uh Indian Stream Republic hard up against the Quebec border down to the sea coast at Portsmouth.
Newt fans are uh delirious with orgasmic anticipation at Newt's surge in the uh in the New Hampshire polls.
1-800-282-2882.
We've been talking about I as I said, I liked uh you know, I I owe Michelle Backman actually.
When my book came out, uh it was uh the time of the Iowa Straw Poll, and uh she quoted my book on uh on Meet the Press, and which was the kind of publicity that's very helpful in the in the week you got a book launch, and she did uh she she had wonders with it.
She she won the Iowa Straw Poll and she was quoting my book everywhere, and uh and then it uh it it didn't kind of work out for her.
Maybe she'd be better off um uh playing tracks from uh uh from my Christmas CD, because it's that time of year.
I always I always uh I always had like to have a little Christmas CD that's out there on iTunes and everything.
And uh and this time around we've got 1970s disco fever.
Here it comes.
Snow and fall and snow on snow.
Snow had fallen, snow on snow.
Snow had fallen, snow on snow.
On snow, on snow, on snow.
On snow, so get up and...
And it's a marshmallow world in the winter.
Yeah, that's uh that's me, my uh it's the let's face it, it's the Jimmy Carter era again, it's malaise, it's uh it's the collapse.
It's the collapse of the free world.
You might as well bring back disco.
We are metaphorically back at the flared pads era, and uh and if we're heading for and if we're heading for uh a second Jimmy Carter era, we might as well have the music to go with it.
But I I liked it uh uh a Newt fan.
Oh, it's uh okay, Mr. Surley.
It's available.
It's available at iTunes and Amazon.com uh and uh and uh HR wants to know whether there's uh there's uh there's a video.
Yes it is, but it's like one of those Donna Summer love to love you ones.
It's all hot and heavy breathing and it's not suitable for family family broadcasting.
Uh yeah, I did.
I did uh I did save my uh bell buttons and I've got my 1970s Afro uh on uh on for the uh for that performance of Marshmallow.
Well I actually snagged my Afro on the glitter ball one night in 1976 was terrible, and uh it was uh if Obamacare had been uh around then I would have been fully covered for it.
But in fact it was a tr a tragedy.
But Gerald Baldwin, who's a Newt fan, uh says uh that uh he thinks I'm all wrong in Newt Gingrich.
He goes, I think Newt Gingrich is the marshmallow man and it's a marshmallow world at the moment.
It is true that Newt Gingrich looks uh looks like the marshmallow man.
So if uh if he needs a campaign song, then I'm willing to license him my version of It's a Marshmallow World.
But that's my uh that's my uh new Christmas CD uh with my friend Jessica Martin from the uh British television and it's uh and it's available uh it's called what's it called Making Spirits Bright is available as Mr. Snurley says tell them where it's available it's available at iTunes and Amazon.com and all those uh all those play and I think you could actually listen if you listen uh at uh what it what what's that thing that that uh that that came in that was before iTunes and uh that where that was uh where you could first
do all the downloading there's something where you can just listen out Napster Napster if you listen on Napster uh I believe I I believe I get a royalty of something like point oh seven of a cent.
So if like two hundred people of two hundred listeners were just to listen to my Christmas song on Napster um I would um I would have uh what would that be?
That I would have about four and a half cents.
So that'll be good.
I'd be pretty I'd be sitting pretty for when the dollar collapses.
I'd have four and a half real life American pennies.
Um so uh so that's uh that's that anyway uh a lot of people say uh General Baldwin says Newt is the marshmallow man and it's a marshmallow world let's go to Paul in West Palm uh Florida West Palm Beach Florida uh great to have you on the show Paul.
I'm doing good how are you?
Great.
Hey let me just say that um if Newt's path to legality bought us more undocumente your caliber of wit and intelligence then I'd sign up for that.
I'm all for that so it's a great it's really fun listening to you.
Okay well we're we're we'll try and put in a special uh request for a path to legality uh for potential guest hosts for the Rush Limbaugh show that could be that could be a whole visa program all by itself uh what what else is Audi Bide Ball?
Yeah, let me make my point.
My point, first let me set this up.
I'm a conservative Republican 20-year active duty guy.
My first presidential election was 1980 with Reagan.
So that's where I come from.
I'm at the point looking at the new Mitt Obama choice where, in a very counterintuitive way, I'm starting to think that the best thing to bring America back to the United States is if Obama is reelected.
and I say that because I really think it's going to take four more years of his policies and his consequences to incubate the kind of person that a conservative Republican's really looking for a Thatcher or a Reagan.
People just aren't the electorate's just not at the point yet where they're demanding this person.
And by not demanding this person yet we're getting who we get.
Well you know th there's a problem here.
I mean for a start I I think conservatives should generally be skeptical of the Leninist view that it is necessary for things to get worse before the proletariat will you know see how things really stand.
I I I think there's a problem with with that view.
And the and the question then arises is you're talking about Reagan and Thatcher you're going back to nineteen seventy nine nineteen eighty and the question is why aren't people at that stage yet?
Last year suggested that the Tea Party the Tea Party results in 2010 suggested that people were at that stage.
I just think that people are are more numb today and less informed than they were in nineteen eighty.
It only took four years a Carter to get you know the nineteen seventy six to nineteen eighty caliber of people to that point.
And I agree with you that Leninist view it's got to get worse to get better.
I I I don't like thinking that but I have the supreme faith in in the people here that it won't get that bad but it it will take more to get them to the point of you know showing the world hey we're ready for someone like Reagan or Thatcher.
I I think I think you're right to to this extent Paul that sometimes you can I mean if you look at for example the program that Ankala Merkel ran on in Germany a couple of years ago and the way she's actually governed the problem is not that Angela Merkel uh didn't have a whole bunch of great ideas.
The problem was that the German people were not ready for it.
We're not ready for serious uh conservative government.
And maybe they might think a little differently on that uh today but uh but but we don't know and and and uh and there is a there is a you want a leader like Reagan or Thatcher who who actually people say oh you know you need a candidate who moves toward the middle.
That's not true.
Successful transformative people like Reagan and Thatcher move the middle toward them.
They move a few steps in uh toward the right and they and they basically ask the electorate to come to move in their direction.
And and that's what successful conservative leaders do.
They don't always get all uh everything they want.
Reagan didn't and and and Mrs. Thatcher certainly didn't.
Uh but they they move they move the middle toward them.
They don't move toward the middle.
And there is and there is a uh and and if you're right, then the United States is in a whole heap of trouble.
Uh because th the the idea of having another Obama term.
Now you think of everything that uh that we've we've disliked about the first Obama term.
You think of the stimulus.
You think of the multi-trillion increase in the debt.
You think of Obamacare.
You think you you think of the profound assault on liberty represented by Obamacare.
Uh where uh in effect uh the the the state assumes jurisdiction over your body.
The state tells you that you are obliged to make health care arrangements that meet its approval.
You imagine if that stands up, if that's still living and breathing uh in twenty sixteen.
As I said, then you go back to what the IMF says, uh that China will become the world's dominant economy in twenty sixteen.
You look at the way China's flexing its muscles now.
Uh there was a story on Sunday, uh in which China criticized the United States for not getting serious uh uh about its debt problem.
That headline in a Reuters story would have been incomprehensible to any American.
You were talking about nineteen eighty.
Any American from nineteen eighty would look at that headline and say, what alternative universe has this come from?
That the the the People's Republic of China, a communist Politburo, is uh telling the government of the United States that it has to be more fiscally responsible.
Have I landed?
Did I did I go to sleep and uh get put in a space capsule and wake up with Charlton Heston on Planet of the Apes?
Where what alternative reality does that come from?
But it's happened.
It's happened.
And the idea of another mo where I where I fear for America is that another four years of this, another four years of this, uh, and we will have slipped past the point of no return.
We will be on our way, not to anything so benign as um and genteel as European decline.
We will be in the same situation as Latin America, where you'll have a hu you you'll have an elite corrupt governing class, the Barack Obamas and Co.
This is what, by the way, Barney Frank was saying.
Barney Frank was regretting uh that that uh that the the the uh the people get all riled up and they prevent him from doing such a great job on the inside as uh as he put it.
And this is why Barney Frank says he's he's uh he he's uh stepping down.
Because a guy like Barney Frank, he's a smart guy, and he knows what's best for you.
And the trouble is in in a republic like this, uh that he he's got all these great ideas and he's got all these great schemes and he's got all these great things uh that he'd like to do, and then people come and vote and he's all not on his committee anymore and someone else is on the committee and he doesn't make the running anymore, and and so he doesn't get just to impose what he wants and what he knows is best for you on the people.
I think uh in another four years of this we would be seriously advanced down that road.
In other words, uh we you would have we would have expanded the dependent class, forty-seven percent of people, forty eight point five percent, I believe, just to be up to the minute accurate, uh receive some form of federal benefit.
When that up ticks a couple more points, three, four, five more points, uh basically uh the cart uh there isn't enough horse to pull the cart, and we are in serious trouble at that point.
So I want to win in November.
I want to win in November, because I think uh I think if we wait till November twenty sixteen, it will be too late for the United States.
Mark Stein in for Rush, thanks for your call, Paul.
More of your calls straight ahead.
Hey, Mark Stein in for Rush on the ERB network.
Let's go to Gene in Highland Branch, Colorado.
Gene, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with us.
Thank you, Mark.
It's good to talk to you.
Always like uh listening to you.
Um I am really concerned about uh how much you're slamming uh Newt Gingrich.
Um my main reason, yes, is that maybe I don't agree with everything that he does.
I'm I'm very, very, very conservative.
But you know, I voted for John McCain because I didn't want Barack Obama.
Um I'm really concerned more about uh Romney as far as our uh nominee.
Uh if he is the one that's really uh, you know, everybody's got him vetted and he's the one that's gonna be it.
Uh he needs to have somebody challenging him.
And I think that he uh that Newt, if he is gonna be the one, Newt's gonna pull him to the right.
Uh but but you seem to have so much against Newt that uh that you are just I mean, you are in Romney's um bandwagon.
I'm not in Romney's bandwagon.
That's absolutely that that's uh I haven't expressed anything other than the most tepid indifference to to Mitt Romney.
You know, Mitt Romney is one of those uh classic finger in the wind politicians.
You know, he uh twenty years ago when he was running in Massachusetts, he was uh hot for gay rights and uh and all pro-abortion and all the rest of it.
Uh, and then he decided he was gonna run for president of the United States, and now uh all his positions and all those things are modified.
I know exactly who uh Mitt Romney is.
Uh Mitt is one of those guys, uh, even when you ask him a question about climate change, he he peddles last decade's uh conventional wisdom.
So I I accept that uh and not you know Newt, on the other hand, is uh has got his own issues with that.
In fact, the idea, by the way, Gene, that you could think that somehow Newt is some sort of principal conservative, shows how what has happened to conservative politics in this country.
Newt has many talents, but the idea of a coherent principal conservatism, twenty minutes ago, he was sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelosi saying we needed a big old big government solution to climate change.
Nothing says big government like the climate change Kool-Aid.
That's the biggest government of all.
Because it says, no, no, I'm not just in favor of more government in the town or the county or the state or the nation.
I'm in favor of big government for the whole planet, because we have to we have to save the planet.
Uh and and and that's why we need a big super mega planetary cap and trade re regime for for this thing.
That ought if i I'm not a believer in litmus tests, but when a guy is hot for cap and trade uh and climate change, he's got the old climate change fever.
idea that he's some kind of principal conservative strikes me as pretty wacky, Gene.
He's a principal conservative.
What I am saying is that Newt actually admits, you know, that was a big mistake.
And at least he admits that it was a big mistake.
And I think that that you know, if you have somebody in place that uh that is an anti-Romney uh uh conservative, then you ought to be out there touting that person really, really strong instead of blowing uh Newt out of the saddle, who is far to the right of uh, in my opinion, far to the right of uh Romney.
Okay, so so Newt is to the right of Mitt.
Uh that's that's that's that's uh that's great to know.
I mean that that is not exactly an achievement.
That's like the best gay bar in Riyadh award.
It's not a compet you know, uh being to to the to the to to the right of uh Newt uh of Mitt Romney i is uh is not difficult.
Look either of these guys, one of these guys is gonna be the candidate now.
One of these guys is gonna be the candidate.
And as I said, I will do my best to ensure he's president.
But these are serious times.
The the the Republican Party had a great two years in two thousand nine-two thousand ten for all the reasons the mainstream media said it was finished.
They s they said it was finished because it was rudderless, and when it was rudderless, it did better than when uh than than it's doing right now.
More more to come.
That's it from uh Mark Stein on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I believe uh Newt's campaign has just announced that it wants to put me on a path to illegality.
So I gotta get out of here, border patrol are banging at the door.
Uh it's been uh it's been great fun, and we will rumble on again in the future.
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