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Nov. 23, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 23, 2011, Wednesday, Hour #2
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I better get started with some of these audio sound bites, or I'm not going to get to any of them, and it's a pretty good roster today, so we'll do that.
We got Newt coming up here on the immigration business that we spent a lot of time talking about first hour.
Also, here it is.
We beat this one by a week.
Story hits the Washington Times Congressional Budget Office.
Obama's stimulus hurts the economy in the long run.
Congressional Budget Office yesterday downgraded its estimate of the benefits of Obama's porculus package, saying that it may have sustained as few as 700,000 jobs at its peak.
Sustained, not created.
Basically, I guess saved.
And even that, smoke and mirrors.
That's public sector exactly right.
The CBO said that while the Recovery Act, the slush fund, boosted the economy in the short run, the extra debt that the porculus piled up crowds out private investment and will reduce output slightly in the long run by between zero and zero point two percent after 2016.
And remember, these are fudged numbers.
It's much, much worse.
So even now the CBO, way too many years years too late.
It was bogus.
The whole premise was a lie.
It was indeed a slush fund, a money laundering scheme, crony donorism, porculus, whatever you want to call it.
It was not an economic stimulus bill.
And that's from the precious and bipartisan or nonpartisan, whatever they say.
Congressional budget office.
Great to have you back, folks.
Rush Limbaugh and the Excellence and Broadcasting Network, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Telephone number if you want to join us, 800-282-2882, the email address, L Rushbo at EIB net.com.
Let's do.
Let's go to the audio soundbikes.
We're going to start number 18, 18 through 21 here.
This is Newt.
Last night in the debate during a segment on immigration.
I do not believe that the people of the United States are going to take people who've been here a quarter century, who have children and grandchildren, who are members of the community, who may have done something 25 years ago, separate them from their families, and expel them.
I'd urge all of you to look at the Kreble Foundation plan.
I don't see how the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families that have been here a quarter century, and I'm prepared to take the heat for saying, let's be humane in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship, but by finding a way to create legality so that they are not separated from their families.
Without giving them citizenship, that's key.
Without citizenship, they cannot legally vote.
Which means that Newt's plan does not convert them to Democrats.
Legally.
So understandably, Newt took a lot of heat from this.
Michelle Bachman was uh was one after after Newt mentioned this, uh, we shouldn't be destroying families.
Michelle Bachmann weighed in.
Well, I don't agree that you would make 11 million workers legal, because that in effect is amnesty.
And I also don't agree that you would give the DREAM Act on a federal level.
And those are two things that I believe that the speaker had been for, and he can speak for himself.
We do want to have people, and I agree with the speaker, people like chemists and engineers and people who are highly skilled.
We think about the United States and what's in the best interest of the United States.
If we can utilize these workers like Steve Jobs wanted to, then we need to offer those visas.
That will help the United States.
But I don't agree that we should make 11 million workers who are here illegally legal.
Okay, so this this has been the theme since last night, and of course, Peter said 25 years or you what about 20 years?
And by the way, how do we know how long they've been here?
Oh, come on, Rush, we just ask them.
Okay, I forgot that technique.
So we just ask them.
You just you just ask the Krieble Foundation, but if you're trying to look up the Kreble Foundation, I believe it's spelled K-R-I-E-B-L-E.
If you are trying to find out what the Creeble Foundation plan is, that Newt cited.
Uh So how long they've been here, 25 years.
What if it's 24?
What if it's 20?
What if it's 17?
How do we know how long they've been here?
Come on, Rush, we just ask 'em.
If if uh if if uh if if they're told that they get to stay, they've been here twenty-five years, they'll tell you that they've been here twenty-five years.
Well, how are we gonna prove if they haven't been here 25 years?
Well, don't ask me, not my plan.
I don't know.
But anyway, the media reacting somewhat favorably to this in the sense that Newt has a heart.
I'm I'm t I'm telling you, and it just I tell you it infuriates me.
I can't begin to tell you how it infuriates me to listen to these holier than now uppity media people sit it there as there's the superior to everybody.
They've got hearts, they've got compassion, and the natural template for conservatives is their cold-hearted, mean-spirited extremists.
Oh, look, Newt's got a heart.
Oh wow.
Why you know what?
That may have changed my opinion of Newt.
That's what Gloria Borger actually said last night in the postgame.
So Newt fired back at uh uh at at Bachman Borger herself said Michelle Bachman's campaign put out something immediately, uh, which said that Newt Gingrich is opening a door to amnesty.
What would your response to that be?
That's just totally inaccurate.
Uh, what I've said is the Crewel Foundation is a very good program for legalization without citizenship for people who've been here a long time.
Now, I want to say go home to lots of people.
I want to create a a border that's controlled.
I want a guest worker program outsourced to American Express or visa MasterCard.
I want English as the official language of government.
I'm willing to be tough, but I'm not willing to kid people.
And I I can't imagine any serious person here in this country who believes we're going to tear families apart that have been here twenty or twenty-five years.
The Borger, Gloria Borger then said, Well, do you think the Republican Party's hurt itself with the Hispanic community because there might be that perception that you want to rip their families apart, that you Republicans hate people, that you Republicans are mean-spirited extremist hate monkers, and you want to tear up part that Hispanic population?
Do you think maybe the Republican Party's hurt itself with its hateful view of Hispanic people and all people of color?
You scum!
Sure, I think I think it makes it not just a Hispanic community, but we we have people who come to America from the whole planet.
I think Governor Romney had a right tonight when he said we favor immigration, we favor legal immigration.
We actually would have more opportunity for people who are talented to stay, and it's frankly the Democratic Party and the Labor Unions who block that.
So I mean, it's a mixed bag, but I think it's important because I think somebody up here is gonna be president.
And I think that they hopefully it's gonna be me.
But one of us is gonna be.
It's important for us to unify the country by having an honest conversation, not just a series of slogans.
Okay, so that's uh that that's how it went last night.
On the uh on the uh immigration side.
Uh and let's go back.
Let's let's let's it here's Newt, uh uh uh Mitt Romney, grab audio by 27 now.
Because while everybody's harping on Newt from last night, claiming amnesty or whatever they're claiming, when he didn't.
Uh he he specifically said he's not talking about granting them citizenship.
And if you don't grant them citizenship, they can't vote.
And without citizenship, Newt's saying it's not amnesty.
And Romney, back on Meet the Press in December of 2007.
My own view is consistent with what you saw in the Lowell Sun, that those people who have come here illegally and are in this country, the 12 million or so that are here illegally, should be able to sign up for permanent residency or citizenship.
Oh four years ago.
Four years ago, Mitt Romney actually talked about citizenship for them.
So what let's see if that's uh picked up on today.
Let's see if it is.
You think so?
Next week?
You think you think they'll go find the uh the Romney place?
Really?
Think so?
Okay.
All right.
Did he jump all over Newt?
Romney.
Romney jumped all over Newt and said what he was proposing is a magnet for illegals to come here?
How's it a magnet if you if you gotta be here for 25 years before we uh welcome you?
Okay, all right.
Well anyway, grab audio soundbite number three.
We had the uh Pat Cadell Doug Schoen column.
We talked about a couple days ago.
These are two polsters.
The Democrat Party Schoen was a polster for Clinton.
Cadell was a polster for Jimmy Carter.
They're still Democrats.
They want the Democrat Party to win.
They wrote column after column, leading into the 2010 midterms, telling the Democrats, you don't understand how bad it's going to be.
You guys are going to get shellacked in the midterms.
And they were offering them ways limiting the damage.
Democrats didn't listen to them and they got shellacked.
And so now Schoen and Cadell have written another piece for the Wall Street Journal saying to Obama, you have a duty to your country and the party to get out of the race.
You can't win.
And even if you do win, the only way is by going so negative that the country's torn apart in the middle of the campaign, and after you win, going so ugly and so dirty, you're not going to be able to govern.
You're going to rip the country apart.
Not to mention your party.
And then Cadell and Schoen said if Obama won't go on his own, it's up to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed to go up to the White House and tell him to leave.
And remember, I said, in a spirit of helpfulness, that Schoen and Cadell had gone about this the wrong way.
Because Obama's a narcissist.
You don't go up to him and get him out of there.
You don't tell him to leave because he's a failure.
That doesn't compute.
If you really want to get rid of Obama, you've got to go up and tell him how the current job's beneath him.
You got to tell him how we can tell you're not interested, Barack.
We can see this doesn't turn you on.
You and your wife don't even like living in the White House.
We can tell you don't like the job.
You're so much more qualified than something as small as president of one country.
You know, your country, America, is no different than any other country.
You yourself said it, Barack.
We're just like any other country.
We've got a flag.
And that's the only thing that makes us different.
Our flag's different from the other countries.
You need to be running the world borrowed.
That's how you should have done it, Shoan.
And that's how you should have done it, Mr. Cadell.
If you'd if you'd have written a piece that catered to Obama's ego and gave him an option of something much more powerful, much bigger, then maybe he would have listened.
But I don't think he's finished with his mission.
He's got a good start, but he's not finished.
Cadell was on Fox News Channel, Cavuto Show.
Was it the business channel or regular Fox?
Well, it doesn't matter.
They had a discussion about the supercommittee bombing out.
This is what Pat Cadell said.
I have to say, you know, that people care about re-election and they care about politics.
Our president does.
I've never really seen a president who has been so unengaged.
And you know, yesterday I had a piece with Doug Schoen urging him to step aside for Hillary Clinton for the very reason that somebody needs to do something and worry about re-election and the division between these two parties.
This is not a problem that can be kicked down the road.
We haven't done anything.
And they continued, Cadell wasn't quite finished.
I think right now the dominant instinct in this country, if they had an alternative, would be to throw the ball out.
I think the political elite has failed the country.
I think a serious, you know, I think a candidate, you know, people laugh.
I think a Donald Trump could do well.
I think anybody, I could name a half a dozen people could do well in challenging this.
Right now, the American people are saying the political leadership of this country has failed, and all they care about is beating up on each other.
No one seems to have an idea about reversing the decline, whether it's in our economy or jobs.
But we're going broke.
These people are saying we can just keep putting it off.
The American people sense disaster coming.
Yeah, and he takes uh that's that the uh step further, even there's a uh uh print piece somewhere in our stack where Cadell expands on this whole notion that people sense disaster coming.
And I think he's got a point.
There is a sense of unease.
There's a sense that this is not how things get done in this country.
This is not how things happen in this country.
Now, you can sit there and blame both parties if you want.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to that in the sense that both parties are of the establishment, both parties in Washington, and they're interested in preserving the establishment.
I understand that.
And I do believe that uh there are several high-ranking Republicans who do not think the country's in dire consequences.
I don't think I don't think they believe as you and I do, that we are at a moment in time where the country hangs in the balance.
I don't think they think that at all.
I just don't.
They're not acting like it, and that's what Cadell is addressing here.
Anyway, brief time out.
Your phone calls are next on the day before Thanksgiving on open line Friday here at the EIB network on Wednesday.
By the way, one question here before we go back to the phones.
On Newt's immigration deal.
Let's say that we do it.
We find the people.
We're able to find the people who have been here twenty, twenty-five years, whatever it is.
We say what?
You're here.
We're not going to deport you.
We're gonna let you stay here legally with your family.
We're not gonna grant you citizenship, so you can't vote Democrat, but you're here.
Welcome.
We're not gonna hassle you anymore.
How long do you think it would be?
How long do you think it would take a court to rule that these newly legalized citizens are aliens are citizens?
How long do you think it'd take the ACLU and the Democrat Party to file a lawsuit?
They'd have the lawsuit filed before we had rounded up all of these various illegals.
The lawsuit would be waiting.
The ACLU and a number of other liberal law groups would file a flurry of lawsuits under the pretext of equal protection.
They say you can't, you can't deny them citizenship.
If you're gonna say that they can stay here legally, you can't deny them citizenship.
And how long do you think it would take court to agree with that?
Something to think about if if if you if you like the policy, because it's gonna lead to amnesty at some point.
You have to think.
Here's Jerry in your Belinda, California.
Great to have you on the uh program, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, it's Gary in your willend up.
Thank you.
And I wanted to, I wanted to remind you about a guy who years ago you used to speak affectionately about uh a guy whose nickname was Chainsaw Al.
I don't remember what his real name was.
Oh, yeah, that was Al Dunlop, Chainsaw L. Uh worked at Sunbeam and he had a reputation for saving companies by going in and firing half the uh employees.
Well, he he would take out the proverbial chainsaw and and cut out fat redundancy, inefficiency in companies and turn them around to profitability.
Who's the guy that's gonna do that in this government, Rush?
Well, that's what we were just talking about.
You know, you it really boils down to how many candidates think that's what's necessary.
I said, I said yesterday that what what ought to be a topic for discussion in one of these debates is how are we going to reduce this debt?
How are we going to reduce this spending and not around the margins?
We're gonna actually have to genuinely reduce the size of this government.
So what are your ideas, Candidate A?
Which agencies are you gonna just wipe out?
We can't go on as we are.
We don't have the money.
You know, all this discussion last night about foreign aid.
Uh, or forget foreign aid.
Any discussion last night that involved spending money.
Every time it came up.
I just I I looked at the I looked at the screen, the television, my mouth fell open.
I said, we don't have any money to be giving people.
We don't have any money to spend on foreign aid.
We don't have this money to give to anybody.
Where are why are we still talking about this?
Why isn't somebody saying as part of the answer to this proposed spending problem or proposed foreign aid question?
Uh duh, we don't have any money.
We are borrowing practically everything we spend.
We spend what?
Close to 1.8 trillion dollars more than we take in every year.
We just had to raise the debt ceiling twice this year.
We're up to 17 trillion dollars in debt for real on paper.
We're not there yet, but we're gonna get there by January.
That was the whole deal.
And in a discussion about foreign aid and giving this country debt and this kind where are we getting the money?
We don't have it.
And I do think that this needs to be a subject in one of these upcoming debates, because it's the central question about which we are all concerned for the future of the country.
We'll be back.
I have an excellent question for the next debate.
If I could submit a question, whenever they start talking about spending money, I don't care what the foreign aid or whatever, my question is, which country do you choose to borrow the money from?
What is your preferred country, candidate A, to borrow the money from to send foreign aid to wherever you want to send it?
Or whatever expenditure.
I don't mean to be focusing just on foreign aid here.
Any expenditure of money, like we we we even last night, these guys talked about money as though it's not a problem.
They talked about spending money as though it's not a problem.
Not there were exceptions to it in the debate, but it really is the elephant in the room, to me.
When you're looking at a $15 to $17 trillion national debt, an annual deficit of $1.8 trillion.
A stupid supercommittee that can't cut well, forget the supercommittee.
How about these bogus efforts before the supercommittee where we were told we're gonna we're gonna save uh $100 billion?
Yeah, $100 billion, which we borrow that every five days or less.
And it turns out the hundred billion is ten billion.
And they're patting themselves on the back for all the sp and that's over ten years.
Then you realize with baseline budgeting there is no reduction in spending, period.
And there aren't any cuts.
There might be reductions in spending, but there aren't any cuts.
It's just reductions in the uh in the rate of growth.
So which country, Mr. Candidate, do you want to borrow the money from in order to spend on that project?
Why?
What have I got an internal revolt about?
What?
Uh football picks.
You want me to do football picks.
There aren't any oh for tomorrow's games.
Football picture tomorrow.
Okay, I'll think about it.
I'll think about it.
Why is there an internal revolt in there over that?
Well, that's true.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
I'll think about it.
I'll think about it.
I'll think about this football picks.
Grab audio sound by 30.
This is uh Bill Hemer this morning, Fox News Channel interviewing Michelle Bachman.
Your appearance on the Jimmy Fallon show on NBC.
He has since said he's sorry for a song that was played upon your introduction.
Were you aware of the song?
And since that time, what do you think about what happened on that show the other night?
I wasn't aware of it at all.
I didn't find out until later yesterday, and at that point I was traveling and making my way to the presidential debate.
I'm hoping to be able to speak to Jimmy Fallon today.
I don't have anything against Jimmy Fallon.
I love him.
He's a kick.
It was a great opportunity to be on the show.
I'd love to go back again.
But I think the point is if that had been Michelle Obama who had come out on the stage, and if that song had been played for Michelle Obama, I have no doubt that NBC would have apologized to her, and likely they could have fired the drummer or at least suspended him.
None of that happened from NBC.
And this is clearly a form of bias on the part of the Hollywood entertainment elite, but it's also, I think, sexism as well.
This is what we were discussing earlier.
She's introduced the Jimmy Fallon show, and she walks out and the band plays uh song called Lying Ass BIH.
And she didn't know about it at the time.
She didn't hear about it till uh yesterday.
And I'm I just she's she's right.
if if that had been Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton, this is a major, major American television network.
NBC would have fired the entire production staff.
And Fallon never did say he was sorry.
They're still joking about it.
Fallon said he grounded the drummer.
The drummer of the group sent out a tweet before her appearance, telling everybody we got something snarky planned.
Then they played the song, then he sent the another tweet following it, identifying what the song was for people who might not have recognized it.
And this is obviously what it is, but you just imagine if this had been Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton.
Yeah.
Imagine them.
Imagine them playing.
Here comes Michelle Obama out and they play I Like Big Butt by Sir Mixalot.
Imagine that.
Why do you sit in there and laugh?
Well, I ask you, what is the difference?
What is the difference?
You've heard that song, Hammond.
Sir Mixelot.
One is true and one is made up.
I understand.
That's what the difference is.
Sir Micksilot, I like Big Butt.
That was in the uh early nineties, folks.
For those of you not hip like I am.
With uh with music.
It starts out, I like big buttons and then everything kicks in and it goes at about it's up tempo like you can't believe.
I wonder if that song was on the iPod that Barack gave the Queen.
The first time he went over to visit her in the UK.
Now you people are probably saying, Rush, that's tasteless.
How could you possibly?
I'm just trying to illustrate.
That's what we do here on this program sometimes.
You illustrate absurdity by being absurd.
Who's next?
Uh Rick Fort Collins, Colorado.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, Russia.
Thank you very much, sir.
You're welcome.
Over the last six and a half years or so, I have seen the birth of an army of conservative Rush Limbaugh followers in the online role-playing gamers world.
No kidding.
It's amazing.
About eight and a half years ago, my sister Aaron got me involved in a game called EverQuest.
You get online and you choose if you want to be a magician, a warrior, a wizard, whatever.
And it's like being in the movie The Matrix.
Yeah.
There are computer generated characters you deal with.
Most of them, of course, are politicians.
And you it's rough dealing with them, but you have to.
You advance by fulfilling quests or missions, and mainly by fighting and killing bad things.
Over the years, when I first started it, uh I was getting really into politics at the time.
The Democrats took over Congress, and I got so mad that I created a character named Rush is right.
Oh, you can do that this game, you create your own character.
Or you or that was you.
Well, I created my own character name.
You see, you you pick out what you want to be, what species and what class.
So I said, Russia's right has to be self-sufficient.
So I picked what's called a necromancer.
It's uh a horrible being that can steal the life from others.
Yes, yes, I like that.
Oh, it gets better, sir.
I also picked out the most vile species.
An upright bipedal lizard.
As Russia's right.
As Russia's right.
A bipenal lizard, cool.
Okay, I'm into it.
Yes, so so you are totally self-sufficient on the game.
You need no one.
I play 'em.
Everybody else usually has to get in a group to help each other.
Russia's right helps himself.
And when I started this, uh other players would just run up to me in public and curse at me, scream at me, and that this game probably has oh up to a million or so people involved.
And you get together with each other offline so you know who you are?
Uh rarely.
I get together with my sister Aaron and Well, but then how did they know how did these guys know who you were when you saw them offline?
Uh well, no, they didn't do this to me.
They would they would curse at me online.
Oh, online.
Oh, okay.
They would have run up to Russia's right and say file things.
Oh, oh, as part of the game.
Yes, Okay.
Now uh as things have progressed over the six six and a half years, I'm up to level eighty-five now, which is almost at the very top of the game.
Congratulations.
Uh thank you.
And uh Russia's right is up at level eighty-five.
Oh, yes, Russia's right rules.
Now uh people are coming up to me and just saying online in character, that's a great name, or we like Rush, and they're giving me things for free.
In the game, if you're fighting a a dragon or some such creature, you can get killed.
And if you get killed, you lose experience.
Wait a minute.
If you get killed, you're still in a game, you just lose experience.
Okay.
Yes, you will come back to life minus a couple of hours of experience.
Oh, oh, okay.
So there is a uh certain class of characters that can resurrect you, give you back your experience for money.
And people are now doing this for free to the character Rush's right.
Wow.
Thing is, they want the character to survive.
And prosper.
Now they they've actually developed a capitalistic zone here.
It's divided into all these different worlds.
You can zone to a different world in the game and play there.
And care it's gotten so popular that players are taking real money to buy fake money to buy things online.
You actually earn money in the game.
Wow, this is this this is uh how many hours a day do you play the game?
Oh my wife Janet tells me way too many.
I would say depending on the day, two and a half, three.
Can you play it on a mobile device or you have to play it on your desktop?
Uh you can play it on a mobile device, but I prefer the desktop.
Yeah.
Bigger screen.
Yeah, a nicer screen, get to sit down and relax.
Don't worry about uh lag time, etc., which can get you killed rather quickly.
Right, and battery, you know, where they they So now Russia's right has a lot of fans in the game.
What do you attribute this to?
What do you attribute it to?
Uh you, of course.
Well and the fact, yeah, well, credit where credit is due.
Yes.
And then the fact that I made sure the character is very self sufficient, tough, and fair.
If someone's in trouble, I'll go help them.
Have no problem doing that.
Uh uh this is uh this is this is uh highly flattering, I have to tell you.
To be a revered figure uh in this game.
Uh level eighty-five, self-sufficient?
Just amazing.
Well, I'm I'm looking forward to going online when there's a few people on and telling them to check out your show.
So how many w how many people at the outset we say Russia's right, how many people knew who you were even modeling the character after?
I would say online many because even though you're getting accolades now and free help now when in trouble, uh when I first started, and again this was two thousand six-ish, uh the attacks, verbal attacks were just brutal.
They you can challenge another player to a duel online, you have to go to a special zone where you can fight to the death.
And you were constantly getting challenged.
And again, insulted, made fun of, etc.
But since then things have really turned around, and uh now I I'll ask to donate to people when they give me things, they'll say no no, it's on me, Rush.
No kidding.
That's amazing.
What kind of computer do you use to play this game on?
Oh, just a little desktop I picked up as an e machines.
And it's it's nothing fancy.
Uh the graphics are really good.
They upgrade them all the time.
And there's probably well over a million people, total players in this particular game.
At any one time, uh there may be, you know, five to twenty thousand online.
Man, oh man, this is in a whole new world.
Yes.
Well, i it struck me as odd because it it got so popular with people buying fake money with real money, that some players sell their services in real life online to other players.
If a player needs help, some player will say, Well, you're gonna have to wire money to my bank account and I'll help you.
Well, I uh here's the thing.
I'm I'm sitting here, I would I would think that this character needs something better than some throwaway computer.
Now I don't know if you're fluent with Mac.
I'm sure you probably are.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I'm gonna what what what's your I've got all kinds.
I got I got MacBook Airs, I've got MacBook Pros.
Uh 15 and 17 or 11 and 13 on the airs.
Which would you like?
I can't believe that you're sitting here with a throwaway computer.
Russia's right deserves to be on the finest computer you can get your hands on.
Oh, well, then I I would defer to your uh infinite wisdom on the subject, sir.
Well, then just said MacBook Pro 17.
Macrip 7.
I got to run because I'm long, so don't hang up because Snurdy will get the address that we need to send this thing to you.
There you have it, folks.
I'll be right back.
We're doing open line Friday on Wednesday, as we always do on the day before Thanksgiving.
We go to Columbia, South Carolina.
Hi, Mike.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Thanks, Rush.
Good to talk to you.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Same to you, sir.
Uh, lend me half your uh big brain here and help me uh solve a contradiction, or at least I think it is.
On the one hand, the feds always want to take responsibility for immigration, you know, ice and everything else.
But when the states uh try to make laws and step in where the feds have failed, they said, No, no, no, you can't do it.
They're suing seven states now to stop that.
County sheriffs, like uh Joe Arpayo, they've been trying to stop him from enforcing the law for years.
Correct.
Municipalities, uh, like wasn't it uh uh town in Pennsylvania last year, I think, that made the news uh passed that law, said landlords can't rent uh property to illegals, and the Fed stepped in and said, No, no, no, no, you can't do that.
Individuals or groups of individuals like the the Minutemen a couple years ago that were down on the border trying to stop it.
Oh, no, no, no, uh, you can't do that.
They sent the federal marshals down there to stop them.
Until it comes to giving illegals jobs and paying them money.
Then the Fed wants to wipe their hands out of of the issue and make criminals out of the businessmen that hire them to work in their plants, and even the individuals that that hire them to do yard work or be a nanny or or or whatever.
Um is this just uh simply a case of the Feds uh wanting to take responsibility until it's not convenient for them, or is there something more to that?
What do you think?
Well, the DOJ, just uh give you a little bit of information before giving you my opinion on this.
The DOJ just announced today that they're suing Utah.
Yeah.
Uh now I think you have to look at this particular DOJ.
You have to look at this regime, and what I am firmly convinced of is that this administration does not want to stop illegal immigration.
Of course not.
They want as many people in this country as possible that will potentially be converted to Democrat voters.
Is what they want.
They have to have some show of caring about it.
So it's it's it's it's much less impactful to go after a company hiring illegals than it is to support a state keeping them out.
Supporting a state keeping them out keeps them out.
They don't want them out.
They want them in here.
They'll deal with them once they're in here.
They don't go after these businesses for hiring them as a show of having some interest in it, but that's all it is, in my opinion, is simply just a show.
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