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Sept. 20, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 20, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 247 Podcast.
Greetings to you, music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plain.
I no longer feel alone.
For 20, 21 years, I was it.
We would get a speech by a Democrat like we got from Obama yesterday.
I'd be the only guy refuting it.
But now everybody, everybody's up to speed.
Even the Associated Press is fact checking Obama and finding that he's dead wrong about all of his assertions yesterday about taxes and who pays them.
Really, folks, greetings, by the way.
Great to have you.
800 28282 is the number if you want to be on the program.
I was did something last night that I I seldom do anymore.
No, I watched cable news.
I got I got I got bored with the football game after a while.
It was not a good game to watch.
And I knew that going in.
And I watched a lot of the pregame, which kind of told me all I needed to know about the game anyway.
So I'm channel surfing around and I could not have been happier.
I I um I don't know how to describe this.
Let me let me try it this way.
For what one of my one of my pet peeves uh for the 23 years I've been hosting this program is the liberal class envy lies on who pays taxes and who doesn't, and this whole class envy rhetoric that the rich aren't paying their fair share, and that we need to extract even more from them, with fair share never being really defined.
Just this the whole class envy rhetoric.
And for all of these years, uh I was pr and don't misunderstand this.
I'm ecstatic.
For all these years, I was pretty much felt like a lone voice.
Uh in fact, even at the end of the program yesterday, we got an email from somebody who said the rich should fight back.
And I I talked about how that has never happened.
That's even starting to happen now.
The rich, the quote unquote rich, are starting to fight back and defend themselves.
I have to be honest with you.
Last night, Ted Baxter was superb on this.
Ted Baxter had one of the best shows that he's ever had.
And then Hannity came on right, and then Greta and everybody I watched, other than of course MSNBC, even places over CNN was getting this right.
And it's like when I say, show prep for the rest of the media.
Folks, this doesn't have a prayer anymore.
I have to it it it used to be that a liberal Democrat would come out with this kind of nonsense, and we would have to sit and honestly worry about what are the chances enough people are gonna buy this to see to it that it passes.
We don't have that concern.
Everybody now knows this doesn't stand a prayer.
Everybody now knows that this wasn't even really a policy speech, nor was this debacle of a thing, the joint session last Thursday night.
Everybody sees Obama for what he is now, an abject failure who is simply launching a re-election campaign and polluting and degrading great institutions in the process.
The Oval Office, joint session of Congress speech, you name it, whatever he is touching, the whatever he's doing, wherever he goes, he is perverting a great institution.
Series of great institutions, the joint session of Congress speech is an institution that he perverted by turning it into a campaign appearance, using the Rose Garden and the Oval Office for just shameless pure political purposes.
I know all presidents do it, but not in this brazen a way.
After he delivered this debacle of a speech yesterday, he then went to a fundraiser in New York, where the price for admission was $38,500.
Five thousand of that to Obama, the rest of the Democrat National Committee.
And some people who were invited to this, rich liberals, were caught outside going, what do you think of all this?
They started laughing.
Ah, everybody knows that's not gonna pass.
That's just a bumper sticker yesterday.
Even the people walking into the fundraiser to ostensibly support the guy are laughing at him and not taking what he's saying seriously.
And I I folks, I think it is a it's an important thing that Bill O'Reilly got it right because everybody knows he has more power than anybody other than the president.
And he was great on this last night.
And it is frankly, it's heartwarming to see.
I don't feel like a lone wolf anymore.
I don't feel like a uh uh a lone voice.
Because the whole point of all this is to defeat it.
The whole point is to see to it that people are educated and informed and understand exactly what a total joke Obama has become, how meaningless his remarks yesterday were, how destructive if implemented they are.
And more and more people are seeing it.
Uh more and more people are willing to say so.
I mean, even O'Reilly last night was admitting that he was rich.
When I said it's a shame the rich aren't fighting back, the rich were fighting back.
O'Reilly was admitting being rich, and he was putting in context of what all he pays and how much is going to cost him and what's fair and everything.
If I was sitting going, all right.
All right.
Because for 20, I've been doing this for 23 years, for 20 of those years, and don't misunderstand this.
I mean, I've I'm I've when I say I felt like a lone wolf, all I mean is is that this is something a lot of people didn't either understand, didn't take the time to understand, or felt fear in refuting it for whatever, because who wants to defend two-tenths of the population?
Nobody has ever thought there was any future in defending two-tenths of the population, which is what happens when you speak up for the rich.
Well, now the rich have not just become the rich, everybody now refers to the rich as the job creators.
Everybody refers to them as the achievers.
Everybody refers to them now, or most people, I mean on the right side of this issue, refer to them as people that we aspire to be.
They no longer run around with this uh uh, at least universal, negative stereotype.
And that's that is a fundamental substantive change.
And I I must tell you that I was uh I I was I was I was well, I was gratified and I was happy and I was ecstatic because it's it's really it's no fun being uh lone voice.
It really isn't fun being a lone voice.
And now, with um the level of education that's taken place, the level of understanding, and the ease with which people can now ease into this discussion to refute everything Obama said.
And look at folks, it's all over the place.
Um AP has done a fact check of Obama and and basically destroyed everything fundamental to his speech yesterday.
Fact check our rich taxed less than secretaries.
On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data.
Now, we've had we've had all this at rushlimbod.com.
I'd have to ask Coco, but I told him when we put this up 10, 15 years ago, it stays up every day.
I don't care what happens, this is there every day.
And it has been there every day.
And now the response to a speech like Obama's uh that was always heard on this program is becoming standard everywhere else, including unbelievably the associated press.
Now, I think there's a reason that the AP and the New York Times are lining up against Obama, and it has nothing to do with taxes and who pays them and who doesn't.
I think there's a whole nother reason why that's happening, which we discussed last week.
And that is they see their ideology on the line here.
This guy is going to sink liberalism if he is not propelled to victory, or if somebody doesn't take his place.
They have figured out on the left that Obama's not worth saving if it means by liberalism.
Their ideology is everything to them.
They are liberals first before they're anything else.
Whatever their religion is, liberalism comes first.
Whatever their sexual identity is, liberalism comes first.
Whatever their profession, liberalism comes first.
And they were ecstatic, finally got somebody in office that they thought was going to be the standard bearer to take them to Utopia, and instead we have a country on the prospect of ruin.
And they cannot allow for people to associate the ruination of this country with liberalism.
And that's what Obama is, or worse, socialism.
So there are two stories by AP today rebelling against Obama.
You had the New York Times last week giving voice to all of the Democrat by name critics of Obama's speech on Thursday night and again of his speech yesterday.
Back to the AP fact check.
The wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data.
They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.
Somebody tell me when was the last time we saw this in the state controlled or drive-by media?
We have never seen it.
This is the first time that we have seen liberal class envy assaulted with fact from the liberal media.
I'm telling you.
This is fabulous, and there's something going on, and I know what it is.
We'll discuss it in detail as the program unfolds.
The rich pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected in the federal government.
Now you all know this.
You've been here 23 years, 21 years, 2015.
You know this.
You've heard this every time the subject comes up.
But it's it's now.
I guess commonplace or soon will be.
There may be individual millionaires who pay taxes at rates lower than middle income workers.
In 2009, 1470 households filed tax returns with incomes above a million yet paid no federal income tax, according to the IRS, but that was less than one percent of the nearly 237,000 returns with incomes above a million dollars.
Now normally the AP would be harping on that one percent, demanding that they get soaked, maybe hung, and then new policies written to make sure it never happened again.
Today AP is defending them.
And so are they being defended everywhere in the media.
At the expense of who?
The one.
The Messiah.
My gosh, folks, even David Brooks.
New York Times has a piece today admitting that he was a sap to buy into the false premise and promise that was Obama.
Yep, admits that he was a sap.
I'll get to that as the program unfolds.
But back to this AP fact check because it gets better.
This year, households making more than one million dollars will pay an average of 29.1% of their income in federal taxes, including income taxes and payroll taxes.
Households making between 50,000 and 75,000 will pay 15% of their income in federal taxes.
Well, hey, they have just shot Barry Obama out of the water here.
They have just taken every point that he made, and they've blown it to smithereens.
And in the process, they've done the same thing to Warren Buffet.
Lower income households will pay less.
For example, households making between 40 and 50,000 will pay an average of 12.5% of their income in federal taxes.
Households making between 20,000 and 30,000 will only pay 5.7%.
Obama's claim hinges on the fact that for high income families and individuals, investment income is often taxed at a lower rate than wages.
The tax policy center estimates 46% of households, mostly low and medium income households will pay no federal income taxes this year.
When's the last time you heard them admit that?
There is even, folks, I have there is even, you can find it, and I heard it explained on television last night, exactly as happened here yesterday and has happened every day that this subject has come up for the last 23 years.
There was an explanation of the difference between capital gains income and earned income and the tax rates on both, and the fact that capital gains income has already been taxed once before as income.
You have to earn the money before you invest it.
And then after you invest it, you you can you you have to keep it invested for a year if you want to claim a profit.
I'm watching and reading all of this stuff and going, hallelujah.
Hallelujah.
This is how it's supposed to happen.
The broad mass education of people throughout the spectrum, including the drive-by media.
Now, I don't want you to misunderstand me on something.
I'm not saying the media has become one of us, and I'm not saying this AP story means that they have forever soured on liberalism.
No, no, no.
This is separate and apart from that.
This has to do with the fact that Obama is taking his people down.
They don't want to go where he's leading them.
There is underneath the surface here, there is an effervescence of a movement.
Has it yet reached the surface to do something about this guy?
The New York Times is leading it.
The others have caught on to it.
Even Chicago Tribune called Chicago Tribune column yesterday.
I had it in the stack, just didn't get to it.
On the best thing Obama could do was not run.
Best thing he could do for the party and the country, just not run.
The only way the party is going to chance stand a chance of winning under current circumstances if Obama's not on the ticket.
Chicago Tribune.
I gotta take a break.
We will do that.
We'll come back and continue right after this, before you know it.
Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Do you remember?
Wasn't that long ago?
When Barack Obama told the rich fat cats on Wall Street, this is back during the days of the AIG and other Wall Street bonus scandal.
And you had all of Obama's uh acorn type people showing up on the front yards of AIG homes.
Protester bonuses.
Remember Obama telling the AIG people and all the other quote unquote rich fat cats on Wall Street that he was the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks?
Well, guess what?
Now it is only Obama's skin color that is standing between him and the pitchforks of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Members of the Congressional Black Caucus are openly admitting if this were a white president who had done this economically to their constituents, they would be marching on the White House.
The only reason they're not is because of the color of his skin.
Members of the Congressional Black Caucus have said this.
Now, the columnist in Chicago, the Chicago Tribunes, a guy named Steve Chapman, Stephen Chapman, and the uh the last column that he wrote about Obama was back in August.
Back in August, he said that Obama had accomplished undeniably historical even great things.
He killed Osama.
He's getting us out of Iraq.
He passed Obamacare.
The only problem was the economy made him look bad.
Said the economy even made Ronald Reagan look bad.
Suddenly Chapman's changed his tune.
He thinks Obama has to go in in just a month's time.
Stephen Chapman has changed his tune.
Obama has to go for the good of the party.
For the good of liberalism.
That is what is at stake.
This is what all these people in the media now understand.
That he alone is not worth saving.
Liberalism is.
So he's now cast asideable.
And Chapman joins a ever growing chorus of people who does not think the economy is going to turn around before November 2012.
And why would it?
And if Obama were to get this package of proposals passed, you can forget about the economy ever turning around.
I think yesterday proved that uh Barack Obama cannot handle the office of the presidency.
He's perverted it.
He's made it a laughing stock.
He's just not smart enough, folks.
He doesn't have the temperament.
And he doesn't understand how the country and its people function.
He thinks memorizing a couple of catchphrases and bumper sticker slogans and repeating them endlessly makes for a great vision.
He's out there this morning, we got the audio coming up, taking credit for this great victory over Qaddafi.
In Libya, taking credit for it.
Talks about how there are times in the past where we didn't save lives that we should have, but this time we did.
So he's comparing himself favorably to what didn't happen to the Third Reich during World War II.
But he stopped a modern day Hitler with the UN, except he didn't use the UN, he used NATO, but that's a minor point.
He thinks that by trashing one industry after another and targeting certain successful groups of people, American people will confuse his tactics with leadership.
This is one of the this stuff isn't working anymore.
Twenty years ago, 25 years ago was a slam dunk.
was going to work.
Of course, this is not a jobs bill, and I think even that is starting to resonate with Obama's speech Thursday before joint session.
What he said yesterday in the Rose Guard.
None of this is about jobs.
It cannot and will not create jobs.
Even if it were passed and signed into law, it wouldn't create one job, it would destroy them.
This is not a jobs bill.
This was a campaign philosophy, policy, position, what have you.
And you know, Mike, I'm gonna throw away what I told you on the soundbites.
I'm gonna find some stuff here because just it just confirms what I have uh what I have said.
Let's grab audio soundbite number six.
This is not a jobs bill.
This is a campaign speech staking out a campaign position.
What did I say yesterday?
What I said was that Obama has lost independence, and before he can even dare worry about getting them back, he's got to show up his base.
His base is livid.
His base thinks that he has whimpered out.
His base thinks that he doesn't have what it takes.
His base is on the uh on the brink of deserting him.
They all want Hillary, folks.
The media wants Hillary, the New York Times wants Hillary, the Chicago Tribune wants Hillary.
That's what this is all about.
They all want Hillary.
Bill Clinton wants Hillary back in the White House.
Twenty years ago, and I've I've been doing this show for 23 years, and I knew then what I know now.
How many times have I said to you over these past 20 years that 20 years ago, 25 years ago, most everybody believed what Obama believes today.
Twenty, twenty-five years ago, that speech that Obama gave yesterday, we wouldn't stand a chance.
Because everybody believed it.
Everybody believed that every rich person was a Republican.
Everybody believed that the rich Republicans didn't care about the poor.
Everybody believed the rich Republicans only cared about saving business.
Everybody believed that rich they believed it all.
I'll never forget my speech at Gopak, making a joke about my mother, getting my mother a new can opener to eat the dog food.
Pat Schroeder, Colorado believed it.
Wasn't that long ago that that speech and everything Obama said everybody believed it.
Now, in his first book, autobiography, Dreams of My Father.
Obama said that he was a child of the 60s.
He is stuck in the 1960s.
And whoever educated him and informed him on Saul Alinsky, and I think that list of people is long.
It's Frank Marshall Davis, it's his father.
It's all the professors at Harvard and Columbia.
Jeremiah Wright.
He's had a lot of people enforce and tell him that the 60s, that's where it's at.
That's where the future of the country is.
He's stuck there.
He's stuck in the 60s.
We think of Obama as a young guy, but he's not.
And nothing at all new about this guy.
This guy is a radical at heart.
He wasn't alive in doing the stuff.
He envies it.
One of his biggest regrets is he wasn't alive in the 60s in joining all those protest groups.
But that's where his heart is.
His ideas go way back to the radicals of the 1960s and in the 1930s.
That's actually in his second book.
The Audacity of Hope.
I've always felt a curious relationship to the 60s.
In a sense, I'm a pure product of that era.
As the child of a mixed marriage, my life would have been impossible.
My opportunities entirely foreclosed without the social upheavals that were taking place.
So this guy is not new, and he's not young.
He's stuck in the 1960s.
And it wasn't that long ago that, as I say, everybody, when he gave a speech like that, everybody'd be applauding and we would be up against it, and we would be facing a real uphill climb.
But it's not the case anymore.
All these people now have buyer's remorse and they want Hillary.
Here, look now, except.
Members of his cult fringe base are just beyond excited, over the top, can barely contain themselves.
Last night on PMSNBC's The Last Word, Lawrence O'Donnell had on former laboratory uh labor secretary Robert Reich.
Folks, he has not been this happy since they lowered the height requirements on the rides at Wally World.
Listen to this.
This is a new Barack Obama.
This is a feisty president who is in an election year contest right now.
The big battle to come is over whether we increase taxes on the wealthy.
And it's a battle that not only Americans are siding with the president on, but it's a moral battle as well.
The top 1% are now taking home 20%, more than 20% of total income.
The more and a larger portion than they've taken home in 90 years.
And they're facing lower taxes and lower tax rates than they faced in 50 years.
And what the president is saying is Americans are on their backs.
Most Americans are either jobless or afraid of losing their jobs, or their wages are going down.
They can't make ends meet, and you at the top, you have got to play your part.
Enough of this.
And I think most Americans say yes.
He's ecstatic.
He's excited.
He can barely contain himself.
He's not right about anything that he said.
By the way.
Most Americans are jobless or afraid of losing their jobs because of Obama and his policies.
Obama has never introduced a real jobs bill.
This is not a real jobs bill.
This bill would only punish people who work.
This bill would act as a disincentive for anybody to try to improve themselves.
There would be no point to it if everything he wants were to become law.
But now, as I say, the vast majority of people now recognize all this for what it is.
Gunk.
It's lies.
This is a tax bill.
Nothing more than a than a wet dream tax bill.
This is a 1960s wet dream tax bill.
This is what happens after the successful bombing of the Pentagon.
The establishment gives in, gives up, you take over, and you wipe them out.
That's the dream.
Obamacare is Not about health care.
Obamacare is a tax bill.
All Obama has done is introduce tax bills or spending bills.
Nothing else.
Here's Jimmy Hoffa.
You think this isn't class warfare?
He's ready to enforce Obama's new tax rates.
We can't let these rich SOBs escape.
That's what Jimmy Hoffa said.
He was also on MSNBC last night.
We can't let anybody escape.
We can't let people come here like General Electric and make billions of dollars, and they actually got a rebate back.
And you believe that they got a $320 million rebate after they didn't pay any taxes.
So we realize that's not right.
Basically, this idea of somebody paying 15%, these billionaires and millionaires paying 15%, while working people are paying 30%.
That is wrong, and that's going to be the issue.
And finally, the president is speaking up, and I applaud him for what he's doing.
Yeah, well, you're a generation too late because now nobody believes it.
Working people are not paying 30%.
Working people are paying 15 to 20%.
Millionaires are not paying 15%.
They're paying 29 to 30%.
They're paying 15% on capital gains after it's been held for a year, but that money has already been taxed as income at the 35% rate before it ever was invested.
Capital gains is double taxation.
Unions are tax exempt.
Unions don't pay any taxes.
But here's, and by the way, Mr. Hoffa, you cite you cite General Electric.
Who is it?
That's in bed with GE and vice versa.
It's Obama.
Who is it running Obama's jobs commission?
This is CEO of GE.
Who's moving jobs to China?
Here's Michael Moore, also on MSNBC last night.
He was ecstatic.
I felt instantly better.
See, it doesn't take much for me.
That's not a good thing about liberals.
That's just how easy we are.
Just a little your reference to us as uh being treated sometimes by the mainstream media as extraterrestrials.
Well, you you put a few of those Reese's pieces out in front of us.
And we got a whole bag of Reese's pieces today.
Yeah, they just they they love the thought that somebody might get killed.
They love the fact that somebody might have it all taken away from them.
That's how they heard it.
These guys, Hoffa, Robert B. Reich, Michael Moore, what they heard yesterday was that Obama's gonna take all wealth away from these evil, mean rich people.
That has been their dream for I can't tell you how long, and they heard it yesterday, and they thought that that's what Obama really meant.
Every one of these people, Michael Moore, Jimmy Hoffa, Robert B. Rice, they're all rich.
They're all rich.
They must have some sort of guilt that propels them or harasses them every day of their lives.
Here's Howard Feynman, also last night on MSNBC, this time hardball.
And Chris Matthews uh asked him about Obama's speech.
Will it work, Howard?
Will it work politically?
Howard?
Will it Howard, please tell me?
Howard will it ever get passed?
God, I gotta know Howard.
Tell me now, will Obama's bill get passed?
No, it's not gonna get passed.
But the key thing for him is that this is music to the ears of most Democrats.
The Democratic base, and I talked to a lot of them today, absolutely love what the president said.
And confirms what I said.
That was the purpose of this speech yesterday.
To shore up the base.
Now, Howard Feynman had an interesting little tidbit to add to all of this.
Interestingly, Chuck Schumer is driving the train right now.
He won the day on the argument.
I think you're gonna see Chuck Schumer playing a very important role in the campaign.
Well, now, isn't that interesting?
Somehow Howard Feynman reports that Chuck U Schumer is driving the Obama train.
Well, let's go back to MSNBC, where all the action was on this.
Matthews is talking to Chuck Hugh Schumer.
He said the Buffett rule, making sure that people in the very high income brackets pay the same percentage as people in the middle classes.
But Chris, you ever heard the alternative minimum tax?
We've already tried that.
Anyway, these people are so easy to seduce because they lack any intellectual curiosity.
So ideological, that's all that matters.
Moving the ideological ball forward.
They don't care if it's done with lies and distortions and half-truths.
Doesn't matter.
Buffett rule.
Let's not examine what it really is and whether or not it's been tried before, unless you've got Buffett's name on it, it's gotta be good.
Chuck Schumer, formerly of district number nine.
By the way, speaking of that, I'm gonna tell you something.
If if uh if Obama directs the United States to veto this notion of Palestinian statehood of the UN this week.
Supporters of Israel owe a debt of gratitude to the voters in New York 9 for making that happen.
If New York 9 had not happened, the Democrats had not lost that, I can conceivably see where Obama would not have vetoed this Palestinian thing at the UN this week.
Anyway, here is Chuck Hugh Schumer being asked by Matthews.
How do you how do you implement the Buffett rule, Chuck U?
How do you make it happen out there?
How do you how do you bring that fight to the country and win?
The president should bring it to the country, and I believe he will, he will win, and that's something that I've believed for a long time.
I believed it back in December.
The bottom line is 59% of Republicans think very well-to-do people should pay more in taxes.
And you just have a small group that dominates the Republican Party apparatus that's against this, but the American people, liberal, moderate, and conservative, are not against it.
They're for it.
That's such a disconnect.
Yeah, that poll question exists with that answer.
But they're not telling you other questions that were asked in the same poll that make that answer irrelevant.
Such as do you think higher taxes ought to be paid as a way to reduce the debt?
No.
No, people's spending cuts have to make that.
That's this is selective editing on the part of Chuck Hugh.
But anyway, the point is you see, they're all ecstatic.
They're ecstatic.
The base is just orgasmic over this.
That was the purpose of the speech yesterday.
Ladies and gentlemen, the liberals are lying yet again, bold and brash because they have no choice.
The Times Atlas of the World, which is published by HarperCollins, which is owned by News Corp, which owns the Fox News Channel.
Owned by Rupert Murdoch, the Times Atlas was run by a bunch of libs.
HarperCollins's don't doubt me on this.
The Times Atlas of the World exaggerated the rate of ice loss in Greenland in its 13th edition last week, say a bunch of scientists.
Wildly exaggerated Greenland's ice loss, like Times 50.
They tried to say that a significant portion of the eastern coast of Iceland had melted.
But scientists, many scientists said no.
This didn't happen, and it isn't true.
Now, how can there be scientific consensus if people are disagreeing over things like this?
So they exaggerated the loss of ice by fifty times or more.
Well, the question is if they don't do that, who's gonna listen to them?
The Times Atlas of the World exaggerated the rate of Greenland's ice loss.
In its 13th edition last week, scientists said on Monday the atlas published by Harper Collins showed that Greenland lost 15% of its ice cover over the past 12 years based on information from the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado in the U.S. The Greenland ice sheet is the second biggest in the world significant shrinking could lead to a global rise of sea levels.
That should have already happened if 15% of Greenland is melted for crying out loud.
15% of Greenland is not insignificant.
But the global rise in sea levels has not happened.
HarperCollins on its website yesterday said while global warming has played a role in this reduction, it is also as a result of the much more accurate data and in-depth research that's now available.
But a number of scientists dispute that claim.
We believe that the figure of a 15% decrease in permanent ice cover since the publication of the previous Atlas twelve years ago is both incorrect and misleading, said Paul Christofferson, glaciologist at the Scott Polar Research Institute at the University of Cambridge.
We concluded that a sizable portion of the area mapped as ice free in the Atlas is clearly still ice covered, and other scientists agreed.
Now this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
We have satellites and we have boats and we have snowmobiles, and you can go there and readily see that it has not melted.
Either there is ice or there isn't.
This should not be a matter of contention.
So it's another lie that the liberals have tried to tell.
And this time it's other scientists who probably aren't getting any grants and who do care about their reputations who have called the liars out on this.
More evidence that the left is nothing but a pack of them.
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