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Aug. 12, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 12, 2011, Friday, Hour #2
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I got Craig the funniest note here.
The email at the top of the, why did you go cheap and get a black and white camera?
We didn't get a black and white camera.
Our camera is in color.
Our ditto cam is in color.
It's just that everything in here is gray.
Except for my face.
Everything in here is a shade of gray.
So it's not that we've gone cheap.
It's, do you know, folks, a little trivia for you.
Those of you old enough to remember television in the 1950s and 60s, you remember the show I Love Lucy?
I Love Lucy, the set.
The set was all shades of gray.
So as to make it easier to light for TV cameras back then.
If they brought in color sets, the contrast wouldn't work.
So everything was shades of gray back in the old black and white TV show days.
Here, it's just that's the way everything is.
This is the most colorless studio I've ever been in.
But the, yeah, yeah, I am wearing a black shirt today.
I should wear a Hawaiian shirt, just add some colour.
I'm not complaining.
No, it doesn't matter to me.
I'm just telling you that audience thinks we've gone cheap.
Black and white camera.
I didn't even know you could buy a black and white camera anymore.
$5,000 camera?
$5,000 camera?
Well, then we have gone cheap.
I'm sorry, folks.
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We've got plenty of time to change this and evolve it for our future trips here to Los Angeles.
We are here just for the day.
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This is from what?
I guess this, I think it's AP, although I'm not all it's one of the wire services.
New York turns negative on Obama.
President Obama might need to start taking a few more campaign trips to New York and not just to raise money.
A stunning new survey gives the president a negative approval rating in New York for the first time, just under, just 45% approval and 49% disapproval, according to the latest Quinnipiac University poll.
And that's a sharp turnaround from June when Obama's New York popularity was 57 approve and 38% disapprove.
In the 2008 presidential election, Obama carried New York with 63% of the vote.
It's way early to even pretend that this is going to stick.
It's New York Post.
It's way early to pretend it's going to stick.
But, you know, when you've got incumbents under 50% in blue states like this, believe me, at the Obama campaign, no way they can spend this.
This is trouble.
Something they are going to have to fix.
Under 50% approval in a blue state like New York.
There's also a piece here, this is from the UK Telegraph, more on the UK riots.
And this piece is an opinion piece by James Dellingpole.
Britain needs to ask itself why it's so hated, says the New York Times.
Apparently, the New York Times has done a story on this that the Brits are ticked off over.
And here's a pull quote from the James Dellingpole piece in the UK Telegraph.
This can't go on.
Our world is on the edge of a precipice.
The last thing we need right now is to let the very media institutions which helped bring us to this pass.
That means you, Guardian, that means you, BBC, that means you, New York Times, drag us over the cliff with their irrelevant values, falling audiences, and failed suicidal ideologies.
They are really the UK Telegraph ticked off at the lib media.
Well, you could argue, I suppose, it's payback for the nauseating apologia for terrorism written by the Guardian's resonant Wikimist Trotskyite summit.
How do you pronounce S-E-U-M-A-S?
We're Irish, it'd be Seamus or close to it.
Anyway, we'll just do it phonetically because it'll sound funny that way.
Sumus Milnay.
The day after 9-11, apparently this guy wrote a piece saying, you know, it probably is our fault, the United States' fault that it got bombed.
Probably their fault, but I surely can't be the only Londoner for whom it sticks ever so slightly in the craw to be told by a Chicago-born professor of sociology and his Dutch sociologist wife in the New York Times is that the riots are kind of our fault because Britain has become such a hotbed of Tea Party values.
That's right, folks.
The New York Times had a column blaming the riots in the UK on the administration of their Prime Minister Cameron.
He's a conservative, which means he's a Tea Party guy.
And they're bringing Tea Party values to the UK.
And this is a legitimate reason to start burning down people's property, according to opinion pieces in the New York Times.
Legitimate reason.
Legitimate reason to raise hell, to start burning down things, attacking people.
Tea Party values.
The American right today, this is from the piece, is obsessed with cutting government spending.
In many ways, Mr. Cameron's austerity program is the Tea Party's dream come true.
But Britain is now grappling with the consequences of those cuts, which have led to the neglect and exclusion of many vulnerable, disaffected young people who are acting out violently and irresponsibly, driven by rage rather than an explicit political agenda.
I'd love to know where American liberals get their misinformation, says Mr. Dellingpohl.
The New York Times resident faux conservative David Brooks labors under similar misapprehensions about the Cameron administration.
Certainly, they have more of a convincing case if these cuts of which they speak actually existed.
But as Fraser Nelson has pointed out, they don't.
There have not been draconian cuts in Britain.
Not, of course, that the New York Times is the only decaying left liberal organ to try to pin the blame for the riots on capitalism and inequality and conservative values, etc.
Here, for example, is our old friend Sumus Milnay, educated Winchester College at £30,000, son of a former BBC Director General, Sir Alasdair Milnay.
In case you were interested, explaining the real reason why those hungry oppressed disenfranchised hoodies felt obliged or obliged to pop down to their nearest curries to help themselves to the several new 50-inch plasma TVs they so desperately needed in order to lift themselves out of poverty.
While bankers have publicly looted the country's wealth and got away with it, it's not hard to see why those who are locked out of the gravy trade might think they were entitled to help themselves to a mobile phone.
So the left in the UK is right, it's all justified.
These riots, not only justified, they're understandable because Cameron has instituted Tea Party values.
These conservatives, they're cutting everything.
They're depriving everybody of anything they ever had.
It's totally understandable that these hooligans and hoodies would go do with it.
This is the piece.
I guess this has been a common refrain throughout the BBC, the Guardian, New York Times, a number of other places.
Most have no stake in a society which has shut them out or an economic model which has now run into the sand.
It's already become clear that divided Britain is in no state to absorb the austerity now being administered because three decades of neoliberal capitalism have already shattered so many social bonds of work and community.
Anyway, Mr. Dellingpole says, our job is to make sure these libs do not get away with this characterization of these riots.
And most importantly, to make sure that the government doesn't let them get away with it.
For all of its existence, Cameron's coalition has behaved as if it's far more interested in what the BBC and the Guardian thinks than what real people outside metropolitan tofu eating circles think.
So the conservatives there have the same problem that conservatives in this country have, and that is seek the approval of your opponents.
Now, interestingly enough, so we've just had a piece here by Mr. Dellingpole quoting British liberals saying that, of course, these poor people, oh, so deprived by Tea Party values and austerity and budget cuts, of course they should feel entitled to steal a phone or a 50-inch plasma to lift themselves out of.
Of course, we've got to understand that they're totally entitled to this because the government's cutting back their very way of life.
UK Daily Mail.
14 pages here.
Don't worry.
I don't have time.
I don't have the energy today to read all 14 pages, but this is a story about some rioters who've been found.
And it turns out they are a mirror image of our 60s rioters.
The UK Daily Telegraph has gone out and found sons and daughters of multi-millionaires who are participating in the protest marches and burning down property and stealing merchandise.
Poverty, social exclusion, poor education.
These are just some of the theories put forward to explain the recent rioting.
Yet, shockingly, among those in the dock accused of looting are a millionaire's grammar school daughter, a ballet student, and an organic chef.
They're just some of the youngsters from comfortable middle and upper class backgrounds who have been charged with criminality.
Some of them were arrested at the scene.
Others turned themselves in after seeing their faces in photographs and on video.
Whatever the reasons for their alleged troublemaking, it's clear that their future dreams could be crushed by their moments of madness.
Here are some of the allegedly involved.
The grammar school girl is millionaire's daughter, Laura Johnson, 19, charged with stealing 5,000 pounds worth of electronic goods, including a Toshiba TV, a Goodman's TV, a microwave oven, and mobile phones.
The goods were allegedly found in a car being driven by her after a branch of Comet in Charlton, southeastern London, was raided.
And it might be Carlton.
You have to forgive me on some of the British pronunciations.
Then the others cited are explained demographically and who they are.
So all these liberals and even David Brooks here at the New York Times, folk conservative, all these people, yeah, these poor people, oh, gosh, it's so unfortunate.
Tea Party, Tea Party ideas have come to Britain.
Cameron cutting spending, depriving themselves was totally understandable that they'd want a TV and a mobile phone.
I mean, they practically deserve this, as mistreated as they are.
Nah.
Nah, just a bunch of spoiled, rotten, bored, rich kids in not a whole, of course, but in many cases.
Brief timeout.
Open line Friday.
Your calls are coming next.
So in some of these British protesters, we're just looking at this year's Bill Ayers and this year's Bernadine Dorn.
Well, Bill Ayers' father, Bill Ayers, the guy who blew up the Pentagon, his father was CEO of Commonwealth Edison.
Con Ed in New York.
And Bernadine Dorn came from a well-to-do family as well.
And I remember Midge Dector, the wife of Norman Pedoritz, once I was talking to her about the 60s riots, and she said something that always fascinated me.
I'm not going to be able to remember her explanation right now, but she said, contrary to what everybody thought, those people in the 60s that were rioting and tearing everything, they were obedient.
They were obedient in a sense to their parents.
And she had a believe me.
I know it doesn't make any sense when I say it, but when she explained it, it was brilliant.
And I'm going to have to dig it out of my archives.
Also, we're tracking this down, and I probably shouldn't mention this yet.
I'm not going to mention it.
I finished tracking this down.
It's about health care in a court report.
And I don't want to have to come back and say, sorry, it was two years ago.
It's happened to me three times this week.
And I'll just wait till I know for certain.
In the meantime, let's grab a phone call.
Don in Richmond, Virginia.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Thanks.
Good afternoon, and thanks for taking my call.
You bet, sir.
Hope you're doing well.
Listening to the debate last night, I couldn't help but think that the candidates they missed a real opportunity for kind of an easy sister soldier type moment.
I think it would have helped them really in the general as well as the primary.
And that's the question about what's an acceptable ratio of spending cuts to tax increases.
I think they all look kind of ridiculous when wait a second.
Hang on just a second.
I do have to tell you this.
I just haven't been able to confirm this.
An appeals court, the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, just ruled that Obama's health care law requiring Americans to buy health care insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional.
So another court has ruled in or weighed in on this.
Okay, I wanted to make sure we got that out there as soon as I found out about it.
You may now continue, Don.
Thanks very much.
That's great.
That's good news to hear.
Thanks, Rush.
Hold on, Perry.
When the question came up of would you accept a four to one ratio of spending cuts to tax increases or even 10 to 1, no one raised their hand.
And I think they look ridiculous.
No one raised their hand and says, you know what, if I could negotiate a rational approach to Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, if I could get all that done with a 20-to-one ratio of spending cuts to tax increases without gutting our defense budget, just throw something out there.
Say you take the deal.
But I think with the way they set it up, I think it only helps bail out Obama.
It just feeds the media and the Obama theme on this whole downgrade and debt ceiling thing that the Republican unwillingness to compromise rather than the complete lack of leadership out of the White House.
The public does not want compromise.
That is the biggest misnomer a majority of Americans.
I don't think it's any question about it now once Obama defeated.
They don't want him to compromise and they don't want any more of Obama's ideas.
And we don't want any more tax increases.
These guys recognize what that question, that was a trick question.
That was designed to get somebody to basically have themselves thrown out of the race.
In a primary, in the second debate of the year, we got enough taxes already.
If a Republican says, yeah, I'll make a deal to raise taxes, that's all you're going to see in the news today.
And that candidacy is over.
That candidacy is not going anywhere.
The idea that the American people is this collection of reasonable, totally in touch, reasonable, demanding all of this compromise and the American, that's not who the American people are right now.
That's not how they're determining whether somebody's fit to be president, whether or not they can compromise.
And by the way, there is no compromise with the American left today.
There is no compromise.
The option is beating them.
Compromising with Obama means compromising the United States of America's interests.
Compromising with Obama means selling out your country as founded.
And that question last night is a trap.
It was a setup from the get-go because the history of such deals is that the spending cuts, three to one, five to one, never happen.
The tax increases always do.
And those people in that debate last night know who the voters are.
They know who is going to elect the next president.
They know who's going to nominate the next Republican presidential candidate.
And whoever comes out for tax increases right now in any context, any way, shape, manner, or form is done, is finished, particularly 15 months out.
That's a sign of caving in and giving up and admitting defeat.
It was never going to happen.
Now, to those of you who say that the system is broken, you think the system is broken because not one Republican would agree to raise taxes in exchange for a ratio of 10 to 1 spending cuts.
System isn't broken because of that.
That, to me, means the system is working.
Obama has been stopped from raising taxes just today.
The effort's going to be made again later today and in tonight and tomorrow, tomorrow afternoon, tomorrow night, 10 times a day.
The effort will be made to get Republicans to cave, go along and raise taxes.
It's going to happen with this supercommittee.
Once they reach a deadlock on the next round of spending cuts, if they don't come up with agreement, guess what?
$500 billion in defense and then some Medicare cuts, but not on recipients.
The Medicare cuts that get triggered happen to providers.
And neither party really wants to be in a position to be blamed for defense cuts or Medicare cuts.
So guess what?
There's going to be some grand compromise.
And I'll tell you, when that super committee gets done deadlocking, which they're going to do, it's set up to deadlock.
When you look at who the Democrats put on it, then here comes the pressure to raise taxes again.
Raise taxes.
Folks, if raising taxes were the route to prosperity, why we wouldn't ever have recessions.
We wouldn't ever have downturns.
We wouldn't be in a recession now.
If raising taxes worked, everybody in the world would agree to pay them to get out of the mess.
What everybody understands is that raising taxes takes money out of the private sector, ruins the opportunity, or really makes it more difficult for people in the private sector to create wealth, amass wealth, exercise economic opportunity, because there's less of it.
Where's the money go?
It goes to government.
What does the government do with it?
Well, it grows or it buys votes with it or what have you.
And that's why that question listened.
That's why I guarantee the mainstream media love that debate last night because they love the questions.
This is the same questions they would have asked.
Now, more on this appeals court ruling.
This is the 11th circuit in Atlanta.
They find the individual mandate unconstitutional, but they say the rest of the Obamacare law can stand.
Now, that's in direct contravention of Judge Vinson, federal judge, an appeal, judge, a federal judge in Pensacola, who ruled that the whole, he vacated the whole bill.
Of course, the whole bill hasn't been vacated.
They're still implementing it.
As everybody knows, it's going to end up at the Supreme Court at some point.
The appeals court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage, but also ruled that the rest of the law could remain in effect.
Well, let me tell you, how come, this idea of compromise, why is it always pitched at the Republicans?
I don't care what the tax increases.
Let's increase this entitlement here.
Why do we never see the Democrats approached by the media and have it demanded that they compromise by agreeing to some tax cuts?
Why does that never happen?
Why is the onus always on the Republicans to do this?
Here's Sandy Kasper, Wyoming.
Open Line Friday resumes.
Great to have you on the program, Sandy.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm glad I got through.
Thank you.
So am I.
I just want to echo what that gentleman said earlier when he said that about Romney and the media is trying to elect who they want.
I've felt that way for months.
My husband and I have talked about this a month and a half ago.
Carl Roe gets on Fox and he pushes Romney.
And the debates, I think, last night I was somewhat disappointed that they didn't let Santorum talk more and that they egged Bachman and Palenti on with their little thing.
But they are definitely wanting Mitt Romney.
And I'm telling you, most of us really conservative people out here in the West don't.
He's a Republican political establishment person, and I don't think he can beat Barack Obama when it comes down to it.
Well, he is the frontrunner right now in any way you measure it.
Polling data, money raised, fundraising, all that.
Romney is the fundraiser, the frontrunner right now.
Now, Jeb Bush, you say that Rove is pushing Romney.
Jeb Bush, a brother of George W. Bush, Jeb Bush of the Bushies, just sent out a letter encouraging everybody to support Huntsman.
Interesting.
Yeah, the original Bush-Rove candidate was Mitch Daniels.
But Mitch decided not to get in the race, so they had to hustle and find somebody else.
I don't know who, if anybody has really settled on anybody right now in that sense, in a kingmaker sense.
All I know is that Romney is the frontrunner right now.
By the way, just by virtue of the way that debate unfolded last night, he was not touched.
He wasn't damaged in terms of having that status.
You think anybody knocked him off the perch when you watched the debate last night?
Maybe I'm biased because I just really don't care for him at all.
I would have said that Herman Keene did much better than all of them.
He's a businessman.
He's not an establishment politician.
And I'd really like to hear more from him.
Makes common sense.
Yeah, he does.
He does.
Well, that's why these things are fascinating because everybody has a different take on them.
Snerdley weighing in with his thought here that Santorum did surprisingly well last night.
Why?
What did Santorum about what?
What did he make sense, though?
Okay, made sense about Iran.
That's very true.
Well, let me ask you this then.
Santorum also made it clear that he wants criminal penalties for abortion doctors.
Even, well, Roe versus Wade is legal.
Did he help himself or hurt himself with that?
Hurt himself with that, you think?
Okay.
See, this is what I mean.
Everybody's got a whole everybody's take on this goes from answer to answer to answer.
Like Snerdley butts in.
He says, hey, Santorum, he was hot.
He was cooking.
He was the guy.
Oh, really?
What?
What about that question about the duck?
Yeah.
So I was able to take Snerdley from the clouds of heaven to the gutter of despair with one question.
That's the way these things shake out.
Folks, they didn't even muss Romney's hair last night.
Now, I don't even remember it.
I don't.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the questions that Romney got on Obamacare versus Romney care.
And they go, yeah, that's his weak point.
He's going to continue to have trouble with that.
There aren't any perfect candidates out there.
We got a long time to figure all this out.
But last night, Romney's hair was not even mussed up.
And I'll tell you, Romney, for people who saw it, that little five-minute exchange he had with the hecklers yesterday afternoon before they even got to the debate, he did himself more good with people who saw that than anything else he did all day, including the debate.
What he said to the hecklers was, Obama is destroying this country.
Barack Obama has destroyed 25 years of this country.
He's destroying the economy.
There's no jobs.
I don't hear him say that.
Those hecklers really got to him, and we find out what he really thinks.
But he doesn't say it in those terms In a campaign speech or in a debate, but oh, Jeb Bush has denied sending a letter out about recommending Huntsman.
Oh, okay.
I thought Jeb Bush sent a letter out.
Now, now that Jeb's denied that, it might have been Jeb Bush's son.
Ah, families, folks.
Don't you love them?
Open line Friday.
We stay with the phone, Scottsdale, Arizona.
Hi, Paul.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Hi, Rush.
This is pretty amazing.
I'm finally one of them.
I never thought I would do this.
So I want to talk about football, but I have to interrupt for 15 seconds because you and I have grown up together.
I'm 61.
I was in Sacramento in 1980, and then a few years later, you started there.
That's right.
So I've been a listener since the very start.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
Everyone who has come to the party in the last 15 or 20 years, you have no idea how this guy was in the beginning.
He would stumble over stuff.
He wouldn't be that smooth, and he's worked at his craft, and he really became professional.
And all of a sudden, 28 years later, he's an overnight success.
So I've been there from the beginning.
I even crashed your party for your Hall of Fame with my friend Carolyn.
So it's been a long ride with you, and I've enjoyed it.
Which Hall of Fame?
I'm in about five.
Which one were you at?
I want to talk about the Raiders game.
The Raiders and Cardinals last night.
All right.
It was amazing to watch that game.
It looked like there were more players on the field than there were fans in the stands.
Where was the game?
In Arizona?
No, no, it was in Oakland.
Oh, in Oakland.
And that's the part that was amazing.
I mean, Raider fans are passionate.
They're crazy.
If there's one way to check if there's aliens living amongst us, DNA of Raiders fans.
And I think we'll find out there's a high percentage of these folks that are actually aliens.
And it was like 38% capacity.
So I'm wondering, is it a preseason game, but it's Raiders in Oakland, so that can't be it.
Is it backlash because of the strike or drum roll?
Do these folks want to decide if they're going to spend money on a practice game or buy food or gas or rent?
And then I looked at the Chargers game, and they were at 70% capacity.
And they're both California teams.
So are we looking at a trend that starts in California?
Let me just.
My defenses are way down today because I'm not altogether here suffering the ravages of some sort of virus.
But I'm just going to tell you, in terms of the Raiders-Cardinals, there are four factors.
A, and not any particular order.
A, the economy.
B, the lockout.
C, nobody cares about preseason.
And D, it was the Cardinals.
Well, no, you can't say that.
Dallas was sold out.
New England was sold out.
Well, those are football hotbeds.
Those people have to show up in order to get their season tickets for the rest of the season.
As do the Raiders, I would think.
Same thing in Pittsburgh with the Steelers.
But, you know, the Raiders, the Raiders, there's been no reason.
The Raiders haven't won anything of any consequence in a long, long time.
It's a sad thing, too.
You know, you don't want these franchises to come back.
The Cardinals turned out to be a one-year wonder.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
That last 22 seconds, I will always remember the catch that killed us.
So, you know, we were there.
We were knocking on the doors.
Yeah, well, I was just across the state looking.
I was close enough to see it with high definition without having to mess with the mob.
But I think the Raiders will be okay the regular season starts.
Everything's going to be fine.
This is the first game everybody knows.
I'll tell you something else.
Football fans are highly sophisticated.
They know the rosters are going to have 90 players on them for the first three weeks.
Normally, you cut down to 75, I think, after week two.
They know the starters aren't going to play.
If it all won series, they know that the coaches don't have much time at all to really give free agents a look-see to see if the rosters are pretty much set by now because of the compressed nature of all this.
Regular season starts, it'll be okay.
But I think the economy is a bigger factor in all this than people want to admit right now.
There's just less leisure dollars, fewer leisure dollars to go around out there.
And you're not in California, you've got all kinds of leisure time activities, options that you can take rather than messing around with the Raiders in a meaningless preseason game.
Thanks very much, though.
Dale in Baltimore, you're next on Open Line Friday.
Hello, sir.
Great to have you here.
Hey, Rush.
A couple things.
I want to talk about the debate last night.
I may even want to talk about Romney, but let me first say one thing about Huntsman because you mentioned the Jeb Bush letter that went out.
Jeb Bush Jr., it turns out it was his son that sent the letter.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I just learned that myself.
Out of all the candidates, he is one that if he got the nomination, I'd never vote for him.
And the reason for that is that he took such a key position in the administration, being the ambassador to China.
In my mind, he sold out.
You know, it's one thing to serve your president on a board or a commission, but to take that key position means he had to have enough support for Obama that I could never trust him.
Okay, understand that.
How about this aspect of it?
Here's a guy, Huntsman, who accepted the gig, ambassador to the ChiComs, then quits to run for president, and in the process is trying to make mincemeat of the guy who nominated him to the job.
Well, it is nice to hear some of his words last night, but he's not my choice.
Well, I mean, I don't trust.
I just, you know.
People are, look, I'm just repeating other people.
Yeah.
For the most part.
Other people have said questioning Huntsman's character.
This guy made you ambassador to China, and you quit inside of two and a half years.
You start running for office against him.
What kind of guy does that?
You had to say something to him to make you want to put you in that job.
Well, I know.
It works both ways.
Yeah, it does.
It works both ways.
The thing about Mr. Huntsman that got me was he said he doesn't have an economic plan yet.
He's working on it.
He'll get back to us.
Good.
Well, maybe nobody can, you can't run next year and out of an economic plan.
Hey, let me switch to Mitt Romney for a minute.
Yeah.
You know, he's not my favorite candidate.
I'll say that up front.
But you guys talk about him because he's in the race and because he is the favorite right now.
I will say this.
Yes, he's establishment.
Yes, he was governor of Massachusetts.
But Rush, when I compare him to the establishment candidate four years ago, meaning McCain, I feel better about Romney.
I think he genuinely has enough conservative values.
I think he definitely has an economic background.
And I would feel comfortable if he did win, whereas I never would have felt comfortable if McCain won, except that Sarah was there.
Well, let me tell you something.
The way it's shaping up, I would vote for any of those people that are in Obama.
We can't, I don't care who they are and what they believe.
They can't be.
It's not possible for any of the people on that debate last night, in that debate, to be anywhere near Barack Obama in terms of economic policy or desire.
Now, but you said Romney's not your favorite.
Is, uh, i'd love to see Sarah Palin run, but I I really want to look at Perry.
Well, he's going to fire things up.
I mean, there's no question he is going to fire things.
You're going to have with Perry the next debate.
You're going to have two presences on stage, not just Romney.
You're going to have two and that's going to be um uh, interest on interesting time and both of them governors, which is also a factor.
I got to run and take a brief time out.
We'll continue Open Line Friday right after this.
You know, people are reluctant to vote for Romney, I think for two reasons.
One, I think, compared to Obama, they're both laughable.
One is, is Romney Care?
I can't vote for him, the same thing as Obama.
And the other one is religion.
Those are the two things that Romney is up against his religion.
Now, Romney Care, we know is not going to happen again.
He's learned his mistake.
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