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July 25, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 25, 2011, Monday, Hour #2
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Yeah, I just found this.
If I'd if I'd have known, I I'm swamped here.
I I just now, just now had a chance to look at page two through eighteen of today's soundbite roster.
And there's a couple things that I known they were there, I would have been able to incorporate them in the stuff we've already done.
So I'm going to do that now.
Greetings.
Welcome back.
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So there is no debt deal on the table.
The dingy hairy debt deal has been rejected.
McConnell's deal is best we can tell done.
There is no deal.
So Reed's deal gone, it's being portrayed by drudges that Reed Caved.
The thing that's that's that's soon coming to be on the table is the Behner deal.
And now just to review the Boehner deal.
1.1 or 1.2 trillion dollars in cuts in exchange for raising a debt ceiling a trillion dollars.
Raising the debt ceiling a trillion dollars will take us through next April, which happens to be tax filing time.
Which would mean, well, that's something Obama does not want.
And he said, I'll veto when you think 30, 60, 90 days, I'm not going there.
Then he changed his mind on that late last week.
I think late last week he'd be to sign pretty much anything set up there.
I uh especially after watching the Friday night press conference that he gave.
You realize how unprecedented all that was.
They couldn't even find members of the B team in the White House press corps Friday at 6.30.
The A team long gone to Cape Cod, Nantucket or what have you.
The B team was sitting at home wishing that they had the money to get to Cape Cod in Nantucket.
The C team is who they had to call in there, and it was not a full White House press room.
There were some 18 people there, but uh for the most part everybody had gone so on you.
Friday is document dump day.
Friday is when they release stuff that they don't want anybody to know, and it's guaranteed not to be covered because all the news people have gone off to their weekend summer homes.
So the Boehner hanging around to answer that press conference at 7.15.
All this was this was big, big stuff.
So Boehner's plan basically is uh 1.1.2 trillion dollars in cuts, no defense cuts, no new revenue, no tax increases, in exchange for raising a debt ceiling a trillion dollars.
Each member of Congress, well, two members of each leadership would get to name three members to a congressional blue ribbon panel to actually make the cuts.
So be a 12-member commission, six appointed by Democrats, six appointed by Republicans.
They would report back, and debt ceiling runs out in April.
Here we are all over again.
Obama, if this thing survives, this is what will be set up for him to sign.
No guarantee on that yet, but that's the only thing that's on the table right now.
Cut cap and balance.
Oh, there is a push in the Boehner plan also for the balance budget amendment, not immediately, but but down the road.
Cut cap and balance appears to be gone.
McConnell's deal's gone.
Dingy Harry's two and a half trillion dollar tax increase, that's gone.
And the president is doing nothing.
The president is the odd man out.
President's waiting for all this to come up.
So that's where we are, that's what we're looking at.
All kinds of stories today.
You know, it's kind of gratifying because there are stories today.
You know, we don't need to raise the debt limit.
People are just now coming to realize this.
You, of course, as regular listeners of this program have known this for months.
Don't need to raise the debt limit.
In fact, if you're really worried about the foreign markets, which by the way did not plummet, and if you are really worried about our full full faith and credit rating, and if you are really worried about, hold on, all we need to do is lower the debt seat.
If you if if we actually lowered the debt ceiling.
Folks, I shudder to think the impact that would have on markets.
You want to talk about a boom.
You would see a boom unlike you've seen in a long time.
If there were legislation proposed to cut the debt ceiling, to reduce it.
It's a golden opportunity out there.
Now our buddies at Newsbusters.org have been monitoring a bunch of polling data, and it's all lies, and it's all there to help Obama.
The network's selective coverage of their own polls corresponds with CNN on-air hosts, scandalously ignoring the fact that their own polling found that 66% of Americans supported cut cap and balance.
The Republicans' plan.
CNN didn't report it.
Not on air, it was on their website.
If you went to the website, you saw 66% of Americans support the Republican cut cap and balance.
Also that 74% would support a balanced budget amendment to Constitution.
None of that, neither of those items reported over the air in newscasts at CNN.
That famous NBC Wall Street Journal poll we talked about on Friday of adults, not likely voters.
An NBC News Wall Street Journal poll found that despite warnings of supposedly dire consequences if a debt ceiling was not raised, 31% of Americans were against raising it.
After providing a brief explanation of both sides of the argument, that number went up to 43% opposed to raising the debt limit.
The CBS News poll found an even higher 49% of Americans thought Congress should not raise the debt ceiling.
Obama's not winning this.
The Democrats aren't winning this, and they haven't been.
The closest ABC News came to actually axing the question was to simply wonder who Americans would blame for the assumed disaster that would befall the nation if the debt ceiling was not raised.
All three networks did find...
Did find...
You can't even count on journalists to write things that make sense.
What it says is all three networks did find time, used their respect...
I guess it's did find time to use their respective poll findings to focus blame for the stalemate on the Republicans.
questions.
Tuesday, Diane Sawyer, ABC proclaimed Republicans barring or bearing the brunt of the blame, 67% of NBC's Today Show, political director F. Chuck Todd said most of this poll shows that the middle of the country and a majority of Americans basically don't like the Republican position.
It wasn't true.
They were honest to God, folks.
They were simply misrepresenting what was actually in their poll.
Thank you.
The CNN poll, for example, actually found 63% of Democrats back cut cap and balance.
But it wasn't reported.
You had to go out there and you had to find it on their website.
Because it wasn't reported.
On Monday's CBS early show, the co-host Chris Raggy said, and Congressional Republicans also have an issue here as well.
71% say they disapprove of their handling of things.
Yet, from CNN, President Obama's approval rating down to 45%, driven in part by growing dissatisfaction on the left with his track record in office.
A CNN ORC International poll also found the Republican brand is taking a beating in the minds of Americans.
You can read the results in detail.
I'm not going to waste your time with it here.
But you have to be, folks, I mean, stop to think of this.
I mean, to tick off as the first black Democrat American president to tick off a bunch of liberals.
You really have to be screwing up.
Because I mean you've got a grace period.
You've got a honeymoon that never ends.
But it's apparently over.
And then there's this from Rasmussen.
Latest Rasmussen Reports National Television Survey or telephone survey, likely voters.
This is from yesterday.
Shows that 45% trust Republicans more when it comes to handling economic issues.
35% put more trust in the Democrats.
The gap was closest in years in May.
The GOP held a 46 to 42% lead on the economy, which voters have consistently regarded the most important issue of 10, regularly tracked by Rasmussen.
Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on nine of those ten issues.
A majority of voters continue to support repeal of the national health care law and believe it'll increase the federal deficit.
You know, so I could sit here, I could say, uh, you who you who, Mr. Senator Guy.
Mr. Democrat, Senator Guy, when you look over here, I have I have something to want to show you here.
The American public by 10% trust Republicans more in economy than you.
Poll release Sunday night.
10%.
More Republicans trusted on the economy than Democrats.
You want to know why?
You're all in trouble.
Now, just add the story.
history.
In all of the panicked, and boy was it panicked.
I mean, I mean, got picked up at the airport.
We got picked up at the airport in Boston at 3 a.m.
And the driver says, I hope they told you about the weather.
And because we were going to a funeral, oh, what they told you about the weather.
And I said, I know about the weather before it gets forecast.
He looked at me and he laughed and said, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would.
And I said, Well, what were you going to tell me?
Well, it's going to be 99 tomorrow.
I said, Really?
In July.
It gets to 99 degrees in July in Boston.
Driver started chuckling.
Because the driver got my point.
Driver's name was Oscar.
He got my point.
99 degrees in July.
I said, is that a record?
Oh, no, no, no.
It's just going to be hot.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever felt 99 degrees before.
Thanks for telling me.
So we're supposed to hit a record the next day.
I said, what's that?
Yeah, supposed to tell 102.
Really?
In July?
That's unheard of.
This were February, I'd be impressed.
This is July.
He said, Well, no, no, don't care.
I'm just telling you.
You know, Catherine's nudging me with her elbow.
It's just 3 a.m.
Can you shut up and we just get to the hotel?
I mean, playfully nudging me with this.
So all the news stories, I just had the data.
All the news stories about all of the record-breaking heat last year were lies.
In only four-tenths of one percent of reported temperatures was a record set.
Had I known this soundbite existed, I would have played this soundbite when I reported it last week.
Last Thursday and Friday, PMS NBC, a montage of Michael Smirkonish and Sergeant Schultz and the Reverend Sharpton discussing me discussing the heat index.
Here comes Rush Limbaugh to helpfully tell us that what we think is record heat is really no more than a government plot.
Rush, I've got a question.
By that logic is the wind chill factor a government plot to deny global warming.
Rush Limbaugh thinks this summer's sweltering temperatures are being manufactured by the government.
Russ Lumbard thinks the heat index is a conspiracy cooked up by the left.
I wonder what he thinks of the wind chill.
Okay, I'm convinced they're writing L. Sharpton scripts.
I'm convinced that they're writing Sharpton's scripts.
Would he start sounding like everybody else?
You know, until I start hearing him talk about Tawana Brawley, I'm not gonna think that he's actually talking about what he wants to talk about.
He's obviously sharp in reading his script.
Well, how do you dolts feel now?
When you understand that there wasn't one record set last week, the heat index is not an official temperature, it's not a record.
There are too many variables in it, but they wanted to go along with the heat index because it was crisis because it got everybody all frightened.
It was news coverage.
It was something new.
It was something to get people captivated, controlled them.
The heat index was created in 1979 or 78, whatever.
It was adopted one year later by the National Weather Service.
But it's an official nothing.
But last week, all that was reported was the heat index numbers.
As though that were the was the record.
And there were no records set last week.
Pure and so you see what happens, folks, when you live in Realville.
See what happens.
When you live in Realville, will you the mayor, the dog catcher, the town councilman, the garbage collector, and I'm all of that, because there's nobody else here.
You get even more abuse living in real.
Somebody has to.
I live in Realville, and most of the news media live in Absurdistan.
him.
No question about it.
All right, we're gonna start on the phones.
Uh in St. Louis, Brian, your first.
Thank you so much for waiting.
Hello.
No problem, Rush.
Missouri Dittoes.
This is a real treat.
Thank you.
Well, all weekend I was worried about what Obama was going to do on this debt deal.
I think that he was going to take this opportunity to really institute the major change, the breakdown.
And I think Reed got nervous about it and was like, I've got to make something happen.
I don't think they're on the same page.
Give me some specifics of what you're talking about.
Well, specifically, you know, Reed had this.
No, no.
Tell me about Obama.
Reed had this opportunity.
Tell me, tell me about Obama.
You thought Obama was going to was going to uh do the breakdown.
He was going to go for it all, and Reed got nervous.
What was the breakdown?
This opportunity could be Obama's opportunity to really change the system.
And blame it on the Republicans.
Meaning this could be his opportunity to institute the major change he has been trying to get done for the last two and a half years.
This could be this dead deal, if it doesn't get done, and we get downgraded, Moody's downgrade, interest rates go up.
This could be the beginning of the big nuke that I believe he's been wanting to institute.
You know, everybody thinks that he's, you know, Obama's out there.
He wants to save us.
He doesn't want to save us.
He wants to change us.
Okay, I got that.
Okay, so you think Dingy Harry gotta be, and you gotta be very careful here.
But I think I know what you think Dingy Harry finally got a uh conscience.
I think Steve Wynne made his conscience.
I think Steve got on the phone with Dingy Harry and said, you know, I don't know about this Obama guy, I don't know what his agenda is, but you know, we're fixing to have a major meltdown that nobody can afford.
I think Harry Reed, I don't know what you would call it getting it conscious, but he I don't think Harry Reed really wants to be on board with what Obama's real agenda is as far as incredibly changing and breaking down the system.
The reason I disagree with this is he's been aboard every step of the way.
That's true.
And the single greatest uh point of destruction is Obamacare.
And Harry Reed was right in there for it.
Now, there we I know that we all live with a little bit of hope.
You and I, a lot of other people, we are hoping that at some point, somewhere on the other side, whom we all consider to be delusional and deranged.
We are all hoping that at some point, somebody over there finally will stand up and say, No, not in my name.
The United States of America is not going to be destroyed in my name.
Then that's essentially what you're hoping Dingy Harry has done here.
Yeah, that's that's basically it.
Yeah, I'm hoping that, you know, he was like, we have to get something done.
I have to do something despite what I think Obama's trying to do, and I'm gonna come up with this deal.
And here everybody's like, well, well, you know, maybe this is a a glimmer of hope.
You know, these things, it it really couldn't have happened.
You know, small business owners such as myself are looking at this over the weekend thinking, you know, is this the week?
Well, that Obama.
You may have a point.
Look, uh uh Steve Wynne did quote unquote threaten Harry Reed over the weekend.
This we know.
Uh uh and and Reed has he's caved on on one of his deals, maybe.
I got another question.
I have another question.
Where is the wind chill factor in the summer?
Well, no, if the wind chill factor supposedly makes you colder in the summer, why do they make it cooler?
Uh colder in the winter, why'd it make it cooler in the summer?
Because it does.
You ever been out there on a golf course?
Dry, still, hot, muggy, all of a sudden a breeze comes up, ah.
You feel cooler.
Why do they not put a wind chill factor out with wind speeds in the summer?
Hmm.
Why not a heat index in the winter?
Does humidity in the summer in the winter make you cooler or warmer?
I don't know.
I'm just asking.
By the way, somebody just suggested, you know, you would never live in a place called Realville.
You need to change the name of the town to reality heights.
Now they like that.
They're laughing in there.
And since I am the mayor and I'm the one to whom these kinds of proposals are made, I do the incorporation charter.
It's now by fiat, reality heights.
We've moved on from realville.
Uh audio sound by 23, Obama ranting and raving about shared sacrifice.
He's at the National Council of La Raza National Conference in Washington.
Are we a nation that asks only the middle class and the poor to bear the burden?
After they've seen their jobs disappear and their incomes decline over a decade?
Are we a people who break the promises we've made to seniors or the disabled and leave them to fend for themselves?
That's not who we are.
We are better than that.
We're a people who look out for one another.
We're people who believe in shared sacrifice.
Because we know that we rise or fall as one nation.
We do not believe in shared sacrifice.
Go find it for me in the founding documents.
Go find it for me.
Probably right there next to the book, Great Moderates in American history.
Shared sacrifice in America's founding.
What is this?
And I'm talking about as an intellectual concept or as a policy, as a policy that people adhere to, shared sacrifice.
This whole bite, once again, I think the guy is losing it.
And everybody now, even I saw on television this morning, even some Democrat analysts are saying, you know, he's been there three years.
It's a little embarrassing to keep blaming it on the other guy.
Are we a nation that asks only the middle class and the poor to bear the burden?
No, we're not.
The upper class bears the largest burden.
Total dollars, percentage, however you want to slice it.
After they've seen their jobs disappear, their income incomes decline over a decade.
Mr. President, the unemployment rate shortly after you took office was 5.7%.
Statistically, full employment in this country is 5%.
It was 4.7% for most of the 10 years you now decry.
Mr. President, all of this disaster has happened on your watch.
And you can't run from it now.
You can't hide from it.
Are we a people who break the promises we've made to seniors or the disabled and leave them to defend for themselves?
No, we haven't.
And it'll be totally up to you, Mr. President, if we for the first time do that.
Something for I look, I'm not a professional on uh clinical matters.
I can't, of course make a diagnosis.
Something's not right here with the man, folks is uh cracking up.
What sacrifices of illegal aliens made, by the way, let alone shared.
He's out there talking to La Raza.
The asking, is he going to ask the illegal aliens to sacrifice, like pay taxes and follow our laws.
You know what else he said?
He's at La Raza, he said the Democrats and your president are with you.
To La Raza.
Minneapolis.
Roger, I'm glad you called, sir.
You're next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Yes, it's an honor to speak with you, Rush.
My question was, can you hear me, Al?
Yeah, here you find.
Okay, my question was I just wanted to talk about the debt ceiling real quick.
And just that uh conservative guy you talked to earlier, I just wanted to let him know that uh Dingy Harry, his uh 2.7 trillion dollar deal that fell through, that was over ten years.
Our debt is 14.5 trillion.
We're spending 1.2 to 1.4 trillion, it's estimated, I guess, for the next 10 years, that 3.7 trillion would just reduce the excess of spending down to probably about 10 trillion.
We're still at 24 to 25 trillion in 10 years.
And I I can't imagine what that would do to this country, and I'd like you to just clarify what you think would happen to the country if that happens.
Who, the caller or Dingy Harry?
Well, you know, you want me to clarify.
I'm sorry, you you want me to clarify what would happen if Dingy Harry's plan went into effect?
Yes.
And 10 years, what's the country going to look like?
Well, look, look.
Um sadly, we can do that for both parties.
If you're talking about a three trillion dollar cut in spending over ten years, you're talking $300 billion a year.
That's really not that big.
Particularly when the next 10 years, the former Office of Management and Budget guy, Peter Orzog's predicting another $13 trillion national debt applied to the current $14.
This is why everybody is so concerned.
It's it really is a spending problem.
It's not a revenue problem.
And it is why cutting the debt ceiling is something that would be the best thing you could do if your credit rating is what you're worried about.
And don't for a moment believe Obama cares about the credit rating.
And don't for a moment believe Obama cares about the Asian markets.
In fact, Obama would have loved the Asian markets tanking.
Blame the Republicans.
That's all Obama's into right now.
You know, for these dunderheads on the radio to tell me that I don't care about the people of this country.
They need to focus that charge at Barack Obama because all he cares about is his own re-election.
And by all counts, the re-election of Barack Obama is going to inflict even more pain on a vast majority of people in this country.
And that's what we hate.
We hate speculators.
That's what the Asian markets are.
And Reed's cuts, by the way, that two point whatever it was, 2.3 or 2.7, they were all from defense.
He was he was simply counting on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq ending.
That's that's how baseless his plan was.
There was no substance to it.
It's all smoke and mirrors.
They're not presenting anything specific that's not going to add up to any reduction in the size of government.
And there's no would Colonel Sanders tell you that he's got a new plan to kill fewer chickens and yet raise profits.
Would Colonel Sanders tell you that?
No.
Well then why would a Democrats say we are going to make government smaller?
We are going to have legitimate cuts.
They're not.
It's not who they are, folks.
Democrats are not about smaller government.
They're all about saying whatever you think wants to be said in order to win elections, but they're not about smaller government.
I when has it gotten smaller?
When they run the show.
Carl Elizabethtown, Kentucky.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Um, you know, I'm a member of the millennial generation.
I'm 24 years old.
Uh everybody says we're going to be paying higher taxes because of all this debt we're accumulating.
But when I look back and I see all this spending, uh it's a trillion dollars for ten years for tax cuts for the very rich.
It's two unfunded wars.
It's Medicare Part D package, all passed in the previous administration.
I say if you're going to cut spending, you should start there.
Start with corporate welfare.
Start with these corporate tax loopholes.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, ho can you I have to take a break and I really want to talk to you.
Sure.
You are twenty-four.
Twenty four.
Can you hold on to the next break?
Absolutely.
Good.
All right, cool.
And and you are from uh Lisbon, Kentucky, right?
Kentucky, that's right.
All right.
You sit there, Carl, we'll come back and we'll continue right after this.
Don't go away.
Okay, we're back with uh with uh Carl in Elizabethtown, Kentucky.
You're 24 years old, and you're from the millennium generation.
I wanted you I want you to start out exactly as you did.
Speak a little slower so that I can uh chat along with you.
Okay.
Well, you know, as I was saying, I'm 24 years old, a member of the millennial generation, and everybody says that all this debt we're accumulating will mean that folks like me will you know pay for it in the future.
Yeah, what wait.
People are saying that all the debt we're accumulating now means that people like you will pay for it in the future.
That, Carl, I don't care whatever you're gonna say next.
Well, not only is that true, but people older than you are going to be paying for it as well.
We already are.
Exactly.
So when you talk about cutting spending, and you go back over the last ten years, and you see that we spent a trillion dollars on tax cuts for the very rich, that's the only thing.
No, we did not.
A tax cut is not spending money.
Explain revenue, Rush.
Carl.
No, no, no, I'm not I'm seeking an opportunity here to uh I don't want to be condescending.
I'm seeking an opportunity to reorient the way you have been taught.
I want you to intellectually explain to me why you believe a tax cut is government spending.
Explain to me what a tax cut is.
A tax cut depletes necessary revenue needed to keep the government operational and functioning.
No.
Giving you tax cuts to the very rich and to corporations.
Carl, that that's not what a tax cut is.
A tax cut is you work for a living and you are paid X. At the present, you have a tax rate, let's just pick one, may not be accurate, of thirty percent.
Which means that 30% of every dollar you earn goes to Washington.
But the money starts with you.
It's yours.
You earned it.
You did what was necessary to be paid that money.
Exactly.
If a tax cut happens and your tax rate goes to 20%, then all of a sudden you get to keep 80 cents of every dollar you earned rather than 70 cents of every dollar you earned.
How in the world is that spending?
Because when I spend that money out of my own paycheck, that's money that I spend on my own life.
When the government spends my tax dollars, you're spending it on necessary infrastructure that's needed to keep the entire government ready, to keep schools ready.
Wait a minute.
So are you telling me that you believe that it is more important for government to spend whatever money it has than it is for you to spend whatever money you earn?
The government spending tax dollars benefits everybody, whereas me spending my own money benefits me.
So I paid my fair share to the government for the money that I earned.
Carl, you are as wrong as you can be.
I'm sad to tell you, but you are as wrong as you can be.
You spending your money has far more benefit for you, for your family, for your community, for people that come into your orb than the government spending your money.
The government wastes your money.
The government doesn't really have any money.
We're 14 trillion dollars in debt because of their mismanagement of the way they spend money.
The government, if roads and bridges were what they do, how come roads and bridges need in such a state of repair?
Because it's not that they've had a shortage of money.
Well, Rush, let me ask you when Eisenhower was president, we had a 90% top tax rate.
We put a man on the moon, we built the interstate system, we expanded Social Security, we're more prosperous than we had been in years.
I mean, that 91 topic.
But we did not have a ninety percent tax rate.
What we had was a series of multiple tax rates.
The 90% tax rate was what the super rich paid on the last dollars they earned.
However, Carl, they never paid the 90% because at the same time, there were numerous tax shelters in the law, written in the law, investment opportunities where they could quote unquote shelter that money and give it to charity, for example, or invest in real estate or whatever.
Or hide it in the Cayman Islands and not pay taxes on it.
That's happening right now.
No, no, that was that's always been illegal.
You who's teaching you this stuff?
Uh it's all over the news.
It's all over there's plenty of information out there, Rush.
No, it's i I agree it's all over the news, but it's it's it's not Carl, what I'm trying to tell you is that you're being lied to about all of this.
The interstate highway system was not built with a 90% tax rate on the American people.
If a 90% tax rate on the American people would have resulted in the American people stop working.
No, we were pretty prosperous during the 60s.
That's when the top tax rate was 91%.
No, no, I'm looking at the number of people who paid, nobody ever paid 90% on every dollar they earned.
Nobody, even when Reagan took office and the top marginal rate was 70%.
Nobody paid 70% on every dollar they earned.
You have got to somehow get it out of your head that government spends money better than you do.
You've got to get it out of your head that all money is governments.
They are the worst.
They don't produce anything, Carl.
They don't create anything.
All they do is confiscate From others and destroy wealth.
The government does not create wealth.
It's the private sector and entrepreneurism that generates growth and opportunity and prosperity for people.
It is not the government.
Now you've obviously have been taught along the line in school and whoever your news sources are that the government is godlike, the government is benevolent, and that government should have all the money.
It is intellectually impossible to say that a tax cut is federal spending.
I know Obama's talking about it, but for you to believe that, you must believe that every dollar that exists is government's and that what your salary is is what government decides you should have.
Well, Rush, my money is my own.
I pay my fares here to the government so the government can keep teachers in schools and cops working and firefighters working and government operating like it should be.
That's why I pay taxes.
That's why you pay taxes.
That's all I'm saying.
But Carl, see the here's the problem.
It isn't working.
The whole mess isn't working.
We are about to destroy the economy of this country.
Nobody is going to have the ability to earn any money for the government to take it and do anything.
Carl, you gotta promise me.
You've got to promise me that you'll expose yourself to the op because you are you are so wrong, you can't believe, and the damage you're going to do voting this way is going to destroy this country if you don't fix yourself.
Twenty-four years old and spouting the mantras.
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