Views expressed by the host on this program are still documented to be almost always right, 99.6% of the time.
I have to I have to make one more comment about Joplin.
Reading some of the postmortems in the media, some snarky piece.
Some of them actually, the coverage has actually been over the top good in pretty much all of the media.
Andrew Malcolm, uh blogger at the LA Times had just a perfectly, perfectly snarky piece aimed at the critics, not at me.
It was so well done in his blog yesterday.
Uh imagine Limbaugh talking about freedom.
How ridiculous in this day and age.
Who does he think he is?
You know, that kind of stuff.
It was aimed at the typical LA Times reader.
But somebody said that I went in there to promote myself.
Ladies and gentlemen, uh I'm Rush Limbaugh.
I many I I have become too famous in order to live the life I'd like to live.
I I don't need to promote myself.
I really don't need to do that.
Uh meaning, meaning there's a whole bunch of stuff I could do uh and places I could go if I had some anonymity, but I don't.
Uh I've I've become too famous.
Uh well, it's not that I have anything in mind.
Don't say when you win out.
I it's not that I've got any any place in mind or anything like this.
And I'm not complaining about it.
Don't misunderstand.
I'm just just saying that, you know, I've the idea that I went in there to promote myself.
Uh what?
Who?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Obama said he'd like to walk out in the place.
No, don't compare me to Obama.
I'm not, I'm not even talking about it in that context.
I'm talking about the context, these snarky little creeps who say that I went in there to promote myself.
Which um, you know, I'm I'm I'm Rush Limbaugh.
Those days are over.
Uh don't have to do that.
Others still do, and it irritates them.
But uh I don't.
Anyway, Senate today voting on uh sense of the Senate resolution calling for millionaires to contribute more to deficit reduction.
It's it's dingy Harry's resolution.
These senators must be tickled pink to have given up their week off for the 4th of July for this meaningless resolution, because he kept them in town to do this.
But don't you just don't you love to hear Obama and the Democrats talk about shared sacrifice?
When is the government ever sacrificed?
When has the Democrat base ever sacrificed?
And now that they want us to do all the sacrificing, well, they do all the sharing.
Uh I did predict it, folks.
It's at Rush Limbaugh.com, September 26, 2007.
Democrats will not leave Iraq.
Their kook base has been duped.
Rush Limbaugh.com is right there in my formerly nicotine fingers.
I'm holding it here.
For the last four years, this is me back in on that date, this uh September 26th of 2007.
For the last four years, a Democrat Party, aided and abetted by its insane, deranged, and delusional base, been trying to undermine U.S. victory.
They have invested in the concept of defeat all along.
It's been a lie.
Now they've been trying to secure it.
They've been trying to secure defeat, primarily to destroy the Bush presidency to enable their easier ascension to the White House 2008, and they don't care if they destroy the country in the process.
They'll fix that when they get back in power.
They've been lying to the American people.
Their lies have shown up throughout the drive-by media, then the drive-by media and the fringe base have all brought the notion that the Democrats in the 06 election was about getting out of Iraq.
The Democrats are not going to take us out of Iraq.
The reason why this is important is that they have been lying to their own voters.
They have been lying to the American people, and their lies have been amplified across the drive-by media on an issue that matters.
U.S. national security is at the top of the list.
It's more important than social security reform or anything, because all that stuff's academic if the country isn't adequately defended against future attacks.
And they have not been on the same page, the Democrats.
They have been actively undermining that, knowing full well if they were in power, they would do nothing different than what Bush has done in the sense that they wouldn't pull troops out of there.
They wouldn't pull an immediate withdrawal.
They wouldn't put a certain date on it.
They wouldn't do any of the things they're demanding.
And so Obama then promised to get us out.
Here's Obama, February 10th, 2007.
It's a good thing a Sullivan Group does not audit the president's promises.
Most of you know that I opposed this war from the start.
I thought it was a tragic mistake.
Obama said at the crowd, Springfield, Illinois Town Square, February 10th, 2007.
Time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of somebody else's civil war.
That's why I have a plan that'll bring our combat troops home by March of 2008 if I'm elected president.
Well, here we are, July of 2011.
And from the Atlantic.com, Obama may break his promise on a rock withdrawal.
During President Bush's last year in Orifice, he agreed a timetable for troop withdrawals in uh in Iraq.
He goes on to talk about Obama and dates certain to pull out.
From the Los Angeles Times, the White House prepared to keep as many as 10,000 U.S. troops in Iraq after the end of the year amid growing concern that the planned pull out of virtually all remaining American forces would lead to intensified militant attacks, according to U.S. officials.
Keeping troops in Iraq after the deadline for their departure at the end of December would require agreement of Iraq's deeply divided government, which is far from certain.
At any rate, I just wanted to remind you that four years ago, I told you they would not be pulling out of Iraq.
That once they are in power, they are not going to secure defeat for the United States.
If they could hang that on Bush while he's in power, they'd be happy to.
But they aren't going to do it to themselves.
So my point is don't doubt me.
I know these people.
Whenever I tell you what liberals are thinking are going to do, don't doubt me.
I know them.
Here's Romney, by the way.
I want you to hear this.
This is yesterday in Wolfboro, New Hampshire.
I referred to this remark that Romney made in the previous hour of the program.
Unions have played a very important role historically in balancing in some cases the egregious actions of some employers.
And uh and have been important to the development of our economy.
And there are some unions that continue to train their workers effectively, their union members effectively.
This is salient.
This is the leading Republican presidential nominee.
Seemingly every day adopting a policy from the Democrat Party.
Or espousing a belief that is designed to siphon votes from the Democrats.
Hey, hey, I'm not one of these uh Neanderthal Republican conservatives.
I like unions.
I like you people.
So it's it's it's clear to me that Romney is running against the Tea Party.
I don't know any other Republicans saying this.
If a couple others join him here, I won't be surprised given who they are, but I'm not going to predict it.
I'll wait for it to happen.
Now, I don't want to get too technical here, folks, with numbers and taxes and things, but this is important and it dovetails with what we were discussing in the first hour about this this debt ceiling meeting at the White House tomorrow.
And again, it's important.
The Republicans in the House are not going to sign anything that raises taxes, even temporarily.
Big, big mistake if they do that, even if it's temporary, you don't raise taxes, economic circumstances like this.
You don't raise taxes to raise revenue.
And that is the point I want to make here.
And I can't believe where this comes from.
The Washington Post has a blog.
I don't think this gets published in the paper.
It's a blog called a fact checker.
It's by a man by the name of Glenn Kessler.
And he's reacting to a quote from Barbara Boxer.
Barbara Boxer said, I think we ought to go back to the people and the party that was the only party and the only people to balance the budget in 40 years.
I hate to break it to my Republican friends, but that's the Democrat Party.
We're the ones who did it.
We did it when Bill Clinton came into office.
We did it after hard work.
We did it after painful cuts.
We did it with smart investments.
Barbara Boxer said that on June 29th.
Now everybody knows well, I can't assume everybody knows.
The balanced budget happened because the Republicans won the House of Representatives in the 1994 elections for the first time in 40 years.
The Democrats fought every effort the Republicans put forth to balance the budget.
The Democrats had nothing to do with balancing the budget.
No Democrat did, not even Clinton.
Now, Barbara Boxer can make this statement because she knows that the media is not going to contradict her.
That's why the fact that the Washington Post has run a fact check on this is amazing.
Glenn Kessler has done so.
And he's it's a long piece here.
I'll summarize it for you.
You know, what they're also saying, and this is even even more than balancing the budget.
What the Democrats are trying to say leading into this debt ceiling meeting tomorrow, and as it relates to other budget items as well, they're trying to say that the Clinton tax increases in the 90s led to prosperity.
As uh as a counter to the to the Reagan tax cuts of the 80s actually being responsible for that prosperity.
They're trying to rewrite history.
And here's Boxer, but this this is psychologically pathologically insane.
It is so wrong.
I hate to break it to my Republican friends, but the Democrat Party was the only party, the only people to balance the budget in 40 years.
They did no such thing.
It was John Kasich, the current governor of Ohio, and Newt.
Dick Army.
Tom DeLay, those are the guys that did it.
And all the others that were part of the Republican majority starting in 1994 all the way through the 2000s.
Now here's Glenn Kessler.
Each party in Washington seems to have their own narrative.
Boxer's comment from a long floor speech Wednesday, lamb-basing Republicans are pushing a balanced budget amendment is a case in point.
In Boxer's telling, the budget surplus that emerged in 1998 and continued for four years, sprang forth from a critical moment.
The passage of Clinton's 93 deficit reduction bill.
For those who don't remember, it was a cliffhanger vote in both houses of Congress, not a single Republican lawmaker supporting it.
That was the Marjorie Margoli's Ms. Vinsky vote.
Lucky for us, a lot of us are still here who made that faithful vote.
We didn't have one Republican voting for that budget.
And when they came to the floor, I have all the quotes, chapter and verse.
They said this is horrible.
It'll never balance the budget.
This is going to lead to depression.
It's the worst thing Boxer counted.
She said, but we know what happened.
We only, not only balanced the budget, we had a surplus.
We not only had a surplus, but the debt was going down so fast we thought we would never have to have treasury bonds.
Clinton's deficit plan certainly was a political and economic gamble.
Clinton believed if he crafted a credible deficit plan, Wall Street traders had bid up the prices of treasury bonds, leading to a decline in interest rates, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah.
You know, if it was I've asked this last week, if it was so great then, why don't we just go back to those spending levels, too?
Let's just, I mean, we were spending much less back then than we are now.
Why don't we just go back to those spending lessons?
Uh uh levels.
At any rate, Mr. Kessler points out here, this cutting of the chase.
The Clinton tax increase of 1993 brought in one percent of the revenue generated to Washington after 1993.
This piece by Glenn Kessler, the fact checker, the Washington Post blog, gives the lie to the idea that Clinton's tax increase really drove revenues to the treasury and accounted for his surplus.
The tax increase brought in one percent of the revenue.
It was the Republicans and their forced spending cuts that balanced the budget.
And that then led to Wall Street confidence and all the other things Barcer talked about, which led to an expanding economy.
These guys even go back, Kessler goes back and quotes an inaccurate Washington Post editorial at the time.
So I want to I know this is a little technical, but I wanted to put this out and have everybody understand the real numbers here.
There was no magic in Clinton's tax increase.
It just barely raised one percent of all the new revenue that came in.
It was the spending cuts that created atmospherics that led to economic growth.
You could say that the Clinton tax increases were a drag on what would have been an even larger economic expansion.
But they're setting all this up for this debt ceiling business tomorrow.
Tax increases.
Clinton, let's go back to that.
Okay, fine.
Let's go back to Clinton era spending levels too.
How about that?
Because they're saying everything was hunky dory then.
Oh, yeah, it was rosy as it could be.
Brief timeout, we'll get back to more of your phone calls before you know it, right when we get back.
We go back to the phones.
Rush Limbaugh, the EIB network.
This is Greg in Lou.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Good to talk to you.
I just wanted to point out, I think Republicans need to know, uh, maybe a message from the base, because I think I think the base feels pretty strongly about this.
If anybody caves tomorrow or in the near future, if anybody goes for a tax increase, no matter how small, uh, they will face a primary challenge.
I think we need to send that message loud and clear.
I don't care if it's Boehner or or Cantor or McConnell or who it is.
You know, we did it here in Kentucky.
We took on Mitch McConnell's handpicked Canada in the primary and got Rand Paul elected.
Uh it was done in Utah, it was done in Florida, it was done in lots of places, and it can be done again.
And uh that match is loud and clear.
There's no question you're right.
I don't have a sense that the House Republicans are going to cave.
Uh that there's there's no indication.
I think it's just the opposite.
I I think if they hold firm, it's gonna be Obama that has to cave.
I hope so.
I hope so.
Could I make a point about Clinton and the from the 90s?
Hey, I love hearing myself talking about New York.
Go right ahead, bro.
You know, uh uh Clinton's tax increase was a bad thing, it was a drag.
Also, when the Republicans took over, there was a capital gains reduction.
There was also the tech explosion, advance of productivity.
Uh, so those factors played in.
And also they they produced a they pursued a strong dollar policy.
So we had lots of pro factors as well as the negative.
Let me tell you something.
Not not only are you right about that, the Clinton White House fought the Republicans every step of the way in balancing the budget in 1995.
It is an absolute joke to listen to Barbara Boxer or any other Democrat talk about how they did it.
They fought it.
Remember, the Republicans proposed their own balanced budget plan.
And the response from the uh from the Clinton White House, they waived that shameless metascare campaign to torpedo it.
Remember the uh Newt wants Medicare to wither away on the vine, which is not what he had said.
And even the Washington Post slammed the White House campaign against the Republicans pure demagoguery.
It was Bill Clinton.
During the big budget fight in 1995 had to submit what not one, but actually five budgets until he begrudgingly matched the Republicans' balanced budget plan.
Clinton had to submit not one, not two, but five count them budgets.
Until he matched the Republicans' balanced budget plan.
In fact, during the height of the budget wars in the summer of 1995, and I was there.
Gosh, I remember those days like they were yesterday.
Television show was going on.
We were sitting here frustrated left and right over the pure demagoguery that was going on, the lying coming out of the White House out of Clinton's mouth about this.
Yeah, that's right.
Clinton, yeah, that's when he was flying into St. Louis and Air Force One.
He's calling KMOX.
Hey, that Limbaugh, he's got three hours on the radio after you finish.
Limbaugh's gonna come on, he's got three hours on our radio, and there's not a truth detector.
I mean, a guy, the guy can say whatever he wants to say.
He's out there complaining about me.
In the middle of the budget wars in the White House, the Clinton administration admitted that balancing the budget wasn't one of their top priorities.
And now they're trying to take uh all kinds of credit for it.
They they they were not look at Democrats are never the reason for economic growth.
Never hey, this is this is a classic.
Former top Obama advisor admits we're not experiencing jobless recovery.
We're going through a growthless recovery.
That's right, folks.
We're going through a growthless recovery.
I got this from Jim Hoff to the gateway pundit.
Uh this is Christina Roomer, former chairwoman of the White House Council of Economic Advisors.
She said it on April 12th of this year.
It's how long it's taken somebody to catch this.
This is after she had left the regime.
She admitted in her speech they managed to create a growth less recovery.
And she, in the speech, get this.
She admitted that Obama knew just how bad the economy really was before he took office because she told him how bad it was.
Yes.
So she's out there.
It's now it's now available on tape.
If they try to pull this notion that it was worse than anybody knew, that nobody when the Bush White House was honest with them about how bad it really was.
Christina Roomer has already blown it by saying, no, no, no.
Obama knew how bad it was when he took before he took office actually because she told him how bad it was.
Christina Rohmer, you put her together with the needed done, and you might have an IQ that would fill a thimble.
And they were they were some of the head honchos of uh Obama's regime.
Dear Rush.
This is an email.
If I sense anything today, it seems like a frustration on your part about an inability, or for some reason you haven't gotten across the American people, the messages that you want to get across.
Is that pretty much true?
This is this is a question they asked Clinton.
They asked Clinton, this is the KMOX guys asked that of Clinton when he was flying in on Air Force One.
He said, Look, uh, I'm not frustrated about exactly, but I tell you, I've I've determined I'm gonna have to be aggressive about it after I get off the radio today with you.
Rush Limbaugh have three hours to say whatever he wants.
I won't have an opportunity to respond, and there's no truth detector.
And you, you won't go on afterwards, say what was true, what wasn't.
So all I'm telling you is I'm going to be far more aggressive because the American people are entitled to know what's going on good in this country.
That's back in 1994.
And it's strange because I do have an email from Sleeps.
You sound frustrated today that you you don't sound having to say this over and over and over again.
Well, that's not really frustration.
It is a point of curiosity with me.
For example, we have people who are adults today who were adults in the 1980s.
They lived through that prosperity.
They experienced the euphoric reemergence of what it is to be an American.
If you go back to those days, you go, they were doing man on the street interviews with people and asking them about Reagan, what Reagan did made him feel good about their country.
And people also who were adults in the late 70s, who are adults and alive today remember how bad that was.
So my natural curiosity is Democrats were in charge when it was as bad as it was under Carter.
Reagan comes in, unabashed conservative, cuts taxes, does all these things.
Now, I know that there's been history revision, and I know that Reagan's been pummeled and beat up and so forth.
But but at what point do people's memories of their actual lives triumph and overcome what they're told over and over and over again by the media?
So, yeah, I do wonder, and there's a reason.
I'm going to get to the answer at some point.
I'm going to find the answer.
There's a reason why lessons are never fully learned.
There's a reason why they have to continually be retaught.
No, here's my when you learn two plus two is four, you learn it.
Why don't you learn tax cuts grow revenue?
Why don't you learn that conservatism and conservative individuals create economic growth?
When you learn that five plus five is ten, you learn it.
You don't have to teach you this every year.
That's not...
I'm talking about the power of life, living it, and truth being revealed by virtue of you being in the midst of it.
Conservatism in the 80s, for example, those years should have been self-evident, but yet we have to keep teaching them.
Remember what I said when the Republicans took office in 1995 in the House.
It wasn't long after that we started getting stories.
Hey, country didn't vote for moving as far as country and vote for whatever we were told.
This is not what the country actually voted for when they had.
And I made the point the Republicans stopped teaching.
They assumed that the election meant that the country had said, okay, we've decided we want to go conservative.
Now, the message, the demagoguery of liberalism is easily, Liberalism is the most gutless choice you can make.
And I've often said this.
Oh, yeah.
You know how easy it is to be liberal.
You walk down the street and you see some poor guy sitting on the side of a dumpster.
And you say, oh, I feel so bad.
You're a liberal.
So all you have to do is you have to do anything but feel sympathy.
And you're a good person.
Now, conservatism comes along and sees it, feels bad about it, but wants to fix it.
And in the process of fixing it, the conservatives is maybe the guy sitting by the dumpster has a responsibility here.
Maybe the guy sitting by the dumpster has a role to play of why he's there and how he can get himself out of there.
And that lets the left say, you heartless, mean spirited SOB, the guy sitting next to a dumpster, and all you can think about is how to get him out of there.
Where's your compassion?
And so the notion that fixing somebody's problem isn't compassion, has settled in.
I don't know.
I know the media plays a role.
I better than most know it.
They are who they are.
They're not going away.
I'm not going to use them as an excuse.
You learn two plus two is four, and that's it.
You don't need math retraining.
I've never understood job retraining.
You learn how to screw a screw into a hole, you learn it.
Why do you need to go back to school to learn how to re-screw something?
Why?
What are you getting off in there over that specific uh example?
Who's next on the phone?
Rick in Melbourne, Florida.
Great to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Great to speak with you, Russ.
Thank you for taking my call.
Thanks very much.
Um, just as a before I asked my question, I lived through all of that.
Um I'm 51.
I remember Carter.
I remember Reagan.
I remember everything up till now.
It's just as you said.
And uh the experience of it is how I remember.
Nobody had to tell me about it.
I experienced it.
And that's that's the big difference.
It's uh experience for me.
So that you are a solidified conservative, then is what you're saying.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, because of that.
And and I told my children that, and they believe me, but they haven't experienced it yet.
So they don't.
While I'd like to think they're solidified, they they don't have conviction.
They just have what they think they know their dad has told them.
Well, what are your kids living through right now?
Well, like what are your economic circumstances?
Your kids have your kids known it better than they have it at this moment.
Yes, they have.
I mean, I was fortunate.
I didn't I didn't lose my job, but I did have to move across the country to retain one.
And so that was an experience for them.
And um, so we're fortunate in that respect.
Uh, unlike others.
Well, it just it just constantly amazes me.
Uh you ever know that conservatives seem to learn from their mistakes, and liberals fall in love with their mistakes.
Liberals fall in love with doesn't work.
They become wedded to what doesn't work.
And it's like we cited a piece from Victor Davis Hansen yesterday.
These liberals will not even live their lives according to what their beliefs are.
They won't send their kids to public school.
They don't ride mass transit, they're not if they're buying what is it, uh hybrids and stuff.
Which is, of course, we know this.
This is it for everybody else.
Always are two sets of rules.
Rick, thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
I got another time out, my friends, another obscene profit break here on the EIB network.
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Starting a million conversations.
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All concerned.
Maha Rushi.
It wasn't long ago that uh I found myself in Tampa.
I had to fly over to Tampa to have a meeting about the upcoming release of our new IC product, 2F by T, which we have a website, 2FYT.com.
Just we have a phone number, 8662, 1776.
At any rate, we had to go over there for a meeting, and on the way back home, flew over there.
We got back to the uh to the FBO at the airport, my pilots were talking to a guy in a blue Air Force uniform.
So walk out of the um, get out of the car, and I walk the approach the stairway to board EIB one.
The pilot says, this is one of the astronauts of the final last ever shuttle mission.
So I said, no, kidding.
So I went over and I said hello to the guy.
I don't want to mention, I know who it is.
We had a great, great conversation.
They had to, he and his the commander of the mission was there too.
The T-38 had encountered a mechanical.
Astronauts get to fly around T-38s.
They've been flying around the T-38s.
They get their own jets.
This thing is like a T-38.
You ought to Google a T30, see what it must be like to sit in a cockpit of one of these things and fly around.
Basically, on a go-kart doing 1,500 miles an hour.
I mean, you're that, if it weren't for the canopy, you'd be exposed.
It's an old plane, but they get to fly around.
They had a mechanical and they had to put down.
They were on their way to Houston, back from the Cape.
And so I had a great conversation with this one astronaut, and I said, you know the thing that most amazes me?
These are the guys going up Friday.
And they were nice as they could be.
And I said, the thing that has always amazed me, and I said, by the way, I dropped a name that I knew they would know.
You remember Snerdley, there was an astronaut back during the TV show.
He he he uh he was a c he was a fan, and his one of one of the other astronauts going up on a mission that he was commanding had requested a videotape on Super Eight video that they would play for him in orbit from me, recorded from the set.
His name was Kevin Chilton.
Kevin went on after his astronaut days ended, he went on to run.
I wish I could remember the name of it.
He's soon he's retired recently, but he he went on to run one of the most uh powerful, influential space agency, space organization, rocket something or other.
I forget, I wish I could remember what it was, but I don't.
So anyway, I mentioned this astronaut that I had met Kevin Chilton.
Of course, his eyes lit up because everybody in the astronaut program knows Kevin Chilton.
That's how important Kevin Chilton was.
And I said, I told Kevin Chilton, I finally got a chance to meet him after we did the video from the TV set, and he took, by the way, Kevin Chilton took some pictures outside the window of his shuttle of New York at night and blew those pictures up, gave them to me as a gift, EIB headquarters at night, and then during the daytime.
Uh and those pictures hang with pride in my domicile, even to this day.
But I've told this guy, after mentioning Kevin Chilton's name, and I said, I even mentioned this to him, and he said, Oh, gosh, that's nothing.
I said, What I have been most amazed at, and there's a lot that I'm amazed at, but here you've got this space shuttle with a glide ratio of like nine to one, which means it falls out of the sky like a rock.
It comes down from 230 miles high with no power.
They hit their retro rockets and they slow down and they fall out of orbit and they go to the atmosphere and heat shield deploys, all that stuff happens, and then they re-enter the atmosphere.
They're aiming at basically a a three-mile runway at Cape Canaveral from 200 plus miles high, and they've got one chance at it.
They can't power up and fly around and try again.
And I'm going on and on and on telling this guy, I'm just amazed by this.
He said, You know how we rehearter, you know how we train that?
You know how we practice that?
I said, no.
We go up in a Gulf Stream two with the thrust reversers deployed to try to recreate coming in with no power.
Of course, we got to have power on our Gulf Stream.
We can't come down with no power in the Gulf Stream.
But so why?
Why?
You can do it with the shovel.
You're falling out of the sky.
So I'm amazed the thing even glides, to tell you the truth, but it does.
Now the thrust reversers, folks, those are the things that is in the rear of a jet engine that are used.
They're deployed when the jet lands to help slow it down on the runway.
They're metal plates that fire up at the rear of the exhaust in the jet so that the exhaust, the thrust is uh reversed and thrown forward.
So it's like air brakes.
If those things deploy in the air on your airliner or you fall out of the sky.
They practice the shuttle coming back with the thrust reversers deployed on a Gulf Stream 2.
I it still amazes me that it's worked different.
I know a computer is handling it, but they still manually do it the last thing at the last minute to flare the nose up again to land.
I still amazes me.
I still don't understand how it...
Kevin Chilton became the CEO of the United States Strategic Command in October 2007, the Air Force Space Command.
That's what he became took command of, got his fourth star and assumed command of the Air Force Space Command in uh 2007.