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June 20, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 20, 2011, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
From Los Angeles, ladies and gentlemen, Hollywood, whatever you want to call it, we are here, Rush Limbaugh, out on the left coast, having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
If you'll excuse me just a moment, ladies and gentlemen, we iron out some technical things before your very eyes.
Cannot hear anything from New York.
I mean, very little.
The volume is very low.
Get the mix minus.
There we go.
Keep bringing it up.
Let's do a test.
Can Mike keep playing it and get it up?
So I thought we had this settled before the program.
A little hotter, little hotter.
Either that or turned me down, one of the two.
Well, it's over.
So our test can't be concluded.
Yeah, start it again.
We got to get this settled here.
Okay, now don't touch the level yet until I...
Hey, testing, one, two, three, four.
Test to take me down a little bit.
And you take my testing one, two, three.
Test, test, test, one, two, three, four.
It's broadcast excellence, folks, as you've come to know and love it.
Testing one, two, three.
Okay, that'll work.
Kill a music.
That's right, my friends.
We're here always tanned, rested, and ready.
And today, as I say, coming to you from a golden state of Broke, California, is a broadcasting from tea to shining tea.
This is a place, folks, liberal Hollywood, where idle cocktail party chit-chat, considered by megalomaniacal studio heads and actors to be serious political discourse.
You can run into it practically wherever you go in this town.
And so far, I've been out here since Scotty, Friday night, have had a great time along the way and looking forward to being here all week.
Now, programming note, we've denoted this hugely at our website, rushlimbaugh.com.
We don't have a DittoCam out here.
So there is no Ditto Cam this week.
There will not be.
I mean, we could put up tape of old Ditto cams.
It wouldn't sync with what I'm saying.
But if you have a desire to see, no, I'm just kidding.
Wouldn't do it.
So no Ditto Cam all week long.
I expect that we'll still get people writing telling me there isn't a Ditto Cam, which is what usually happens.
But I will remind you a number of times as the program unfolds before your very eyes.
I want to go back.
There's a story out there.
Standby audio soundbite number one, you start in order on the audio soundbites.
There's a story that actually started way, way back in March.
In March, told you about this story, and nothing was much made of it after we spent some time on it back in March until Friday and throughout the weekend.
And it's the story of Operation Fast and Furious.
Operation Fast and Furious is where the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, some wizard, got the idea to ship a bunch of AK-47s, ammunition, other weapons to Mexico, hoping that the weapons and ammunition would end up in the possession of drug lords.
We purposely, purposely shipped a bunch of AK-47s, other weapons and ammo to drug lords in Mexico, ostensibly to track the stuff so as to be able to tell where it went and who had it, and thus we could identify them.
When this story broke, CBS broke it, Cheryl Atkinson back on March 4th.
We covered it back then.
I got emails all weekend long.
Hey, Rush, how come you didn't talk about it?
We did.
Way, way back in March.
This is an old story.
We covered it thoroughly, and I'm going to go back and I'll prove it to you.
We covered it from top to bottom, side to side.
What's new is that now Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, and Obama, I didn't know anything about it.
They're claiming they had no idea, and they certainly didn't authorize it in any.
Oh, by the way, have you heard?
Have you heard Obama's going to start tweeting?
He's going to start tweeting.
I see he's learned nothing from the Wiener scandal.
By the way, speaking of the Wiener scandal, has there been any news at all since the Wiener scandal ended?
Well, there's a couple of stories about women in politics, and one of the interesting ones is why women don't make it big in business.
And that's because they're taught to be too nice.
That's coming up.
Now, the Wiener story, the last I saw, Wiener and Huma were out yucking it up in the Hamptons and laughing and having a grand old time.
So anyway, Obama tweeting.
And a lot of people say, when does he have the time to do this?
He's president of the United States.
My friends, when does he have time to play golf?
What is it, 13 weekends in a row?
Very smart move by Obama to ask Boehner to play with him.
You know why?
Obama calls up Boehner, hey, let's go play golf.
Boehner, so you don't turn down imitation, the president says, okay, let's go play golf.
Guess what's now off the table?
Criticizing Obama for playing golf.
I mean, Boehner's out there playing with him.
So John Kasich, Republican governor of Ohio.
So if you're going to criticize Obama for playing golf, you got to criticize Boehner too.
You know, I got an idea.
If we're going to ship, you're going to hear the sound bites coming up.
And I'm just going to do this because, folks, if you listen to this program regularly and religiously, you will be on the cutting edge of societal evolution.
I got emails throughout the week.
Hey, you dropped the ball, Rush.
You know what?
Spending too much time on your tea.
You forgot all about this big story.
We didn't forget about it.
We did it way, way back in March.
Everybody acting like this, a brand new story on Friday missed when this thing actually began.
We didn't.
The only thing new, this ATF Mexico story, is that Obama saying he had no idea about it, which not a wise thing to say.
It means he's got rogue agents in the ATF coming up with these rogue plans.
It's a silly, stupid plan.
It's like we've chronicled how many times the federal government's spending half a million bucks back in the 70s to study whether or not Eskimos still swap wives.
Do Mexican drug lords have AK-47s?
Yeah, and if they're ours, how in the world does that help us when we know they've got them?
Why are we going to add to their collection?
To be able to track them?
Who needs to track them?
We know what they're using.
So we don't forget anything here, and nothing gets past us.
In fact, if you listen regularly, you will hear about things long before they become mainstream pop culture.
Here we go.
Let's go back March 4th and just listen.
We've got how many soundbites here?
Total of three.
And I'll be honest, I was bouncing off of a CBS story on this by Cheryl Atkisson.
She's a reporter at InfoBaby, used to work at CNN.
So here's the first of the three bites that we have on this.
From CBS News, this is Cheryl Atkisson reporting.
Federal agent John Dodson says that what he was asked to do was beyond belief.
He was intentionally letting guns go into Mexico.
Yes, ma'am, Dodson told CBS News the agency was letting guns go to Mexico.
An ATF senior agent assigned to the Phoenix office in 2010, John Dodson's job is to stop gun trafficking across the border.
Instead, he says he was ordered to sit by and watch gun trafficking happen.
Investigators call the tactic letting guns walk, in this case, walking into the hands of criminals who would use them in Mexico and in the United States.
Dodson's bosses say that never happened.
But now he's risking his job to go public.
I'm boots on the ground in Phoenix.
I'm telling you, we have been doing it every day since I've been here.
Here I am.
Tell me I didn't do the things I did.
Tell me you didn't order me to do the things I did.
Tell me it didn't happen.
And now you got a name on it, mine.
You have a face to put with it, mine.
So here I am.
Someone now tell me it didn't happen.
Agent Dodson and other sources say that the gun walking strategy was approved all the way up to the Justice Department, Eric Holder.
The guns that ATF let go began showing up at crime scenes in Mexico.
And as the ATF stood by watching thousands of weapons hit the streets, the Fast and Furious group supervisor noted the escalating Mexican violence.
Right.
So back in March, we had the news for you.
It went all the way up to Eric Holder.
Obama doesn't know anything about it, of course.
Plausible deniability notwithstanding.
That report continued just to show you the incredible detail we gave to this story.
Dodson said we just knew this wasn't going to end well.
There's no way it could.
On December 14, 2010, Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was gunned down.
Agent Dodson got the bad news from a colleague.
According to Dodson, they said, did you hear about the Border Patrol agent?
I said, yeah.
And they said, well, it was one of the fast and furious guns.
There's not really much you can say after that.
Two assault rifles ATF had let go nearly a year before were found at Terry's murder.
Dodson said, I felt guilty.
I mean, it's crushing.
I don't know how to explain it.
Senator Grassley began investigating after his office spoke to Dodson and a dozen other ATF sources, all telling the same story.
For the life of me, I can't understand the purpose of this operation.
I'm open to having it explained to me.
Obama just yesterday in the press conference with Felipe Colderon assured the government of Mexico that U.S. agents working in Mexico would not be armed.
But we're letting guns walk from American, you know, Phoenix gun shows.
They're being bought by Mexican cartel members and walked back home.
And they end up being used for criminal purposes.
That's what we called it back on March 4th.
We came up with our own name for it, Operation Gunrunner or Gun Walker.
Now, the real reason for this, and again, yeah, I'm going to beat myself on the chest.
I had this.
We did this in great detail.
We still got one more soundbite to go, just refresh your memory.
But the real reason for Operation Gunrunner or Fast and Furious, whatever they want to call it now, purpose of this was so that Obama and the rest of the Democrats can scream bloody murder about the lack of gun control in the U.S., which is causing all the murders in Mexico.
This was a setup from the get-go.
Send American guns down there from Phoenix from gun shows, get them in the hands purposely of Mexican drug lords, and then have those guns used in the commission of crimes against, in some cases, American U.S. border agents, all for the purpose of facilitating a domestic agenda anti-the Second Amendment.
We are always the firstest with the mostest here.
Well, yeah, I was a little exercised all weekend long.
I mean, if people are not going to listen, why do this?
I'm just kidding.
I say this with great affection.
But all this was made in great detail back in March.
Here's one more soundbite here to go.
Again, from March 4th, this program, and this is the finale of my comments on the ATF operation codenamed Fast and Furious.
Don't forget now, Obama wanted evidence.
The left has an accusation out there that crime and drugs, you think they're coming from Mexico?
Remember this?
Crime and all part of the immigration business here.
The pro-immigration, the amnesty crowd is questioning this notion that crime and drugs come from Mexico.
So what better way to counter that than to have the guns come from America?
To take Mexico out of the equation.
So it's not, the guns coming in are not a problem as far as immigration.
Those guns are Americans.
It's a whole different thing.
What better way to stop one of the arguments that would say tighten the borders?
All the crime, all the drugs, all the guns coming from Mexico.
That's one argument.
How best to nullify that than to end up arranging it for the guns to be American guns?
Look, I wouldn't put it past this bunch.
What better way to refute the argument that it's coming from Mexico than for the guns to end up being American?
So you run the regime.
You are the regime.
You come up with a program designed to, as far as public is concerned, be able to track the drug cartels.
And so you let American guns walk into Mexico.
Those guns end up being used in crimes in the United States.
Mexican guns, the regime can say.
Those are American guns.
We don't have a problem here.
Do we have to apologize to Mexico for sending the guns to them?
Well, no, remember now they're not officially admitting that's what's going on.
We've had a whistleblower, Agent Dodson, saying this is what's going on.
But we're not admitting it.
But the story is now out.
The whistleblower has done his job.
CBS, source of the story, the guns or the gun that killed the border agent is an American AK-47.
It wasn't a Mexican gun.
This has been a huge argument, folks.
It's been a huge argument.
You know, with the ranchers being shot, all this Arizona trying to staunch the flow of illegals.
One of the big arguments has been the crime element, the criminal element of all this.
Mexican guns and so forth.
So now you have, you hear, American guns, not Mexican guns.
That's just a thought.
So, all the way back in March and for domestic political purposes.
Now, here, this is Friday afternoon at the White House, the press secretary, Jay Carney, the Daily Press briefing.
Jake Tapper said, does the president have any personal reaction to the investigative report from the House Investigative Committee upon the ATF's Fast and Furious program and all the blowback from that operation?
I don't have anything specific, like a quote from the president.
I can tell you that, as the president has already said, he did not know about or authorized this operation.
Bohunk.
And we went all the way up to Holder, Alder ego.
I bet the President also doesn't know that he's ordered his own health care waivers to end early, if you haven't heard about that.
Sit tight.
Be right back with much more here on the EIB network from Hollywood.
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You may have heard that the White House is pulling the plug on Obamacare waivers in September.
Maybe you haven't heard.
They only put out the news late Friday afternoon in the traditional document dump time, the period of time during the week when it's least likely to be reported, least likely to be heard if it is reported.
But according to the New York Times, the regime is doing this in order to take the issue away from the Republicans.
Hell with all the people who are going to lose their health insurance because they can't get a waiver.
So the regime can't let the Republicans exploit this waiver issue in 2012.
After all, they've got their priorities at stake.
So all of these waivers, and they number in the thousands.
Now, we all thought these waivers would survive and last all the way through the 2012 election.
Now, the regime's made a calculation here that doing that would be more problematic for them than canceling the waivers this summer.
And it's interesting because people are like McDonald's, if you recall, just one of many outfits who needed a waiver from Obamacare in order to essentially be in compliance with the law and stay in business.
And there are a number of other nonprofits, standard retail businesses, large corporations, which also needed waivers from healthcare.
And they were quickly granted for the purpose of hiding the ugly truth, what Obamacare really is.
And somehow they've made a calculation here that it'll be less damaging for the waivers to end and the Republicans don't have an issue than it is to let the waivers go through the re-election of 2012.
I wonder about this.
There's going to be some caterwauling here.
If these waivers actually expire before the election and people are profoundly affected by this, there must be something I'm missing here.
Because I think this desire not to let the Republicans exploit the issue.
I've told you that their re-elect numbers, their polling numbers are dire.
They are in bad shape.
And this obviously is playing a role here in this decision.
All right.
In my show prep perusal today, ladies and gentlemen, it is clear that John Huntsman's going to announce tomorrow, former ambassador to the THICOMs for Obama, former governor of Utah, he's going to announce the drive-bys are orgasmic.
They can't wait.
They are just over the top with excitement.
Everywhere you look today, there are stories about Huntsman and how there are sighs of relief within the power structure of the Republican Party.
Finally, somebody reasonable, finally an adult.
And all this is happening at the same time that Rick Perry happens to be rocking and rolling.
So we'll look at these two guys and the reaction to both of them perhaps entering the race when we come back after this brief Profit Center timeout.
All right, this makes...
This makes more sense now.
I didn't think that could be right.
Ladies and gentlemen, I, and a rare mistake here, I erred, I was told that the White House had pulled the plug on Obamacare waivers.
To me, that means ended the program.
Not true.
What they've done, they've just said there aren't going to be any more.
The waivers that are in force will stay.
It's going to say, I should have should have relied on my own immeasurable common sense here.
I realize there's no way yanking these waivers away before the election is going to do anything to help either Obama or the Republicans.
They're just not going to grant any more.
And the reason I'm not going to grant any more waivers is because they don't want the Republicans to be able to have the issue going into the election.
Well, that's all fine.
And Danny, the Republicans have the issue.
The people, the companies, all these union buddies of Obama, these people have gotten these waivers.
Unions, Pelosi's friends, Harry Reid's entire state, they've already gotten their waivers.
And that issue isn't going to go away.
I don't know how many Americans even are up to speed fully on it.
It's still a big issue for the Republicans.
The question is, will the Republicans nominate anybody with the guts to use it?
Rick Perry over the weekend in New Orleans delivered, as it's reported here at MSNBC, an unapologetically socially conservative speech before a friendly crowd, an unapologetically socially conservative.
What?
Social conservatives are supposed to apologize before they make speeches about social issues?
Well, yeah, I guess so, given the website MSNBC.
We have sound bites on this.
Let's first go to yesterday and this morning, we have a montage of people at MSNBC, F. Chuck Todd, Joe Scarborough, former White House Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton, and Paul Gigaud talking about Rick Perry and former President Bush.
I've had quietly some Republicans say Rick Perry is just a little too Texan this close to Bush.
That's Rick Perry?
Doing George W. Bush?
Rick Perry is a pretty extreme version of George W. Bush.
Is the country, particularly those northern suburbs, ready for another Texan after eight years of George W. Bush?
What does this group think?
Where does this come from?
The idea that the voters in this country are going to say after hearing Rick Perry or anybody, oh, no, no, no, I can't elect Rick Perry.
Comes from the same state Bush came from.
Is the Bush derangement syndrome so distorting of these people's minds that they really believe that voters would decide on a candidate because even the same state that George W. Bush is from?
I mean, this sounds like a stretch.
And even Paul Jugo from the Wall Street Journal, who was the last voice you heard there, seemed to agree with the sentiment.
It was F. Chuck Todd here who says, I've quietly had some Republicans say that Rick Perry is just a little too Texan, this close to Bush.
What no, so Texas is hated along with Bush?
Sorry, folks, I don't buy this.
And this is yet another example.
It's like the New York Times.
New York Times has a story about Clarence Thomas.
It's one of the most convoluted stories that you'll ever encounter.
And it's a story about how he may have acted improperly in trying to save a museum.
Something as harmless as a museum may have acted improperly.
And when you read the story, you really don't see anything that was improper, and you're left scratching your head until you realize the purpose.
The purpose here, this is the New York Times, is already starting to work on judges, justices of the Supreme Court, vis-a-vis Obamacare, because everybody knows that Obamacare is going to end up there.
And they're now starting to work on the justices.
Make no mistake about it.
They're going to be doing puff profiles of Anthony Kennedy and others in the Washington Post-style section trying to buy their vote on this.
I mean, Clarence Thomas is constantly a target, but this story, there's no way that you come away thinking he's done anything wrong, but it's a warning shot.
In fact, this story is not even for the readers.
This story is aimed at Justice Thomas himself, trying to intimidate him.
And now this Rick Perry, no, you can't go for Rick Perry.
He's from Texas.
And Bush is from Texas.
Everybody hates Bush, Ergo.
Everybody hates Texas or everybody hates Texas politicians.
Why?
Why all of a sudden are they talking this way about Rick Perry?
Let's listen.
Saturday afternoon in New Orleans, the 2011 Republican Leadership Conference.
We have some commented by Rick Perry, and we have edited the applause.
It was substantial, but we've edited the applause in the interests of time.
We need to stop apologizing for celebrating life.
We need to stop apologizing for wanting to protect an individual's right to build a business.
Right on.
We need to stop apologizing about stemming the tide of entitlement mindset that's out there.
We ought to be proud of our efforts to give local parents and communities a say on how their children are educated and protecting that fundamental right of private property ownership.
Our party cannot be all things to all people.
It can't be.
And our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us, so let's quit trying to curry favor with them.
Right on.
Let's speak with pride about our morals and our values and redouble our effort to elect more conservative Republicans.
Let's stop this American downward spiral.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know what?
I now know how you feel when you're listening to me.
I now know how you applaud it.
I now know how you get all revved up when you're listening to me.
Damn straight.
Finally, why in the world do we apologize?
And this comes from this defensive position that you always end up in when you accept somebody else's premise in an argument.
He's exactly right.
Why apologize at all for celebrating life?
Stop apologizing for wanting to protect an individual's right to build a business.
Why?
And of course, the MSNBC story, Rick Perry delivered an unapologetically socially conservative speech, as though he's supposed to apologize.
And I just, I love this bite.
Here we got this one, and let me see, a couple of more.
And again, we've edited the applause just in the interests of time.
This administration in Washington that's in power now clearly believes that government is not only the answer to every need, but it's the most qualified to make essential decisions for every American in every area.
That mix of arrogance and audacity that guides the Obama administration is an affront to every freedom-loving American and a threat to every private sector job in this country.
All right.
So he's out there articulating the truth.
He's getting stupendous applause.
And yet, no, no, no, can't have Rick Perry.
Hey, he's from Texas.
Yeah, he's too close to Bush.
We don't want anybody from Texas.
Bush is from Texas.
We hate Texas.
Not we, but the voters.
The voters don't want anybody else from Texas.
I mean, this is the message from the elites.
Inside the Beltway geniuses who like to tell us what we will and what we won't vote for, who we will and won't vote for.
And I Perry understands who we are.
We have a choice.
We have a decision to make as Americans.
Will history view us as the generation of Americans that kind of collectively shrugged their shoulders and said, I guess there's nothing that I can do.
Will we just watch our nation continue this slow backward slide?
Will future generations of Americans living a life without any direction or decision that's not made by some bureaucrat wonder, why didn't somebody do something?
I've got more confidence in America's energy and character.
I totally believe it's time to reconnect with the greatest attributes of our nation, to regain that resilient spirit, recapture that love of freedom, remembering its true price.
We're all facing the same challenges in America.
I stand before you today, a disciplined, conservative Texan, a committed Republican, and a proud American, united with you in the desire to restore our nation and revive the American dream.
And again, we edited the applause there.
Now, this is not sitting well with the drive-bys and the state-controlled media.
We have now a bite here from Scarborough's show this morning on PMS NBC.
We got Scarborough.
We have Mika Bzezinski.
We got a co-host Willie Geist.
And Mark Halperin, the Time magazine editor-at-large, having this conversation about Rick Perry.
I watched this.
I felt like an alien watching this.
From the audience.
You felt like an alien.
I did.
I felt like an alien.
What do you mean?
Well, this was the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans.
The crowd was chanting, run, Rick, run.
You know, I think I saw this guy on Broadway.
One-man show.
What was it called?
Thank you, America.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
That's right.
Will Farrell doing George W. Bush?
You believe that?
Have you seen the Will Farrell one-man show?
I mean, it's juvenile.
It's banal.
Not even funny.
It's just, it's gratuitous.
It's almost like a comedian impressionist has nothing else left in his act except to impersonate Bush years after Bush is gone.
I guarantee you, George Bush didn't say these kinds of things.
He certainly didn't say these kinds of things in the last two, three years of his administration.
But man, oh man, I mean, here's Mika Jzinski.
She says he feels like an alien listening to this.
This guy illustrates the great divide that we face.
We feel like she's from another planet when we listen to her.
We feel like Obama from another star system when we listen to him.
I mean, listening to Obama, it feels like Darth Vader has taken over in real life.
But they think Rick Perry, this is just, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not endorsing the guy.
No, no, no, snurdly.
I'm not doing anything of the sort.
I'm just telling you what happened.
I want to contrast this with Rick Perry with John Huntsman, who reams and reams and reams of newsprint and copy over Huntsman announcing tomorrow.
And they're excited and they can't wait.
I mean, even the people in the state-controlled media.
So we'll get to that next.
Also, your phone calls again, 800-282-2882.
When we get to the phone, sit tight.
We'll be right back.
And we're back.
One more Rick Perry soundbite here, folks, talking about American exceptionalism.
And he does so genuinely here.
There might be some other candidates bringing it up.
See what you think of this.
I see a stronger America built on the solid foundation of spiritual strength, of individual liberty, of self-determination.
We must recapture that vision and begin the hard work of lighting the way for millions of Americans who are adrift in the sea of economic misery.
Let's lead them to the safe harbor of American renewal and the shores of American exceptionalism.
I think it's Rick Perry.
They say it looks like an alien.
My God, just look at Obama's Supreme Court nominees for Crown.
You want me to name them?
Sonia Sotomayor, Alien Anybody?
Elena Kagan.
Look at some of the czars and look at some of the cabinet members.
And of course, notice the logic here.
Perry, he's an alien.
He's like Bush, who was elected president twice.
George W. Bush elected president twice.
So who is out of the mainstream here?
But ultimately, it's a good sign.
The media feels that Perry is an alien.
Now, on the Huntsman side, Mike Allen at Politico puts a thing out, his little blog every morning.
And the first, as printed, the first page and a half, and it might, everything's printing much smaller out here.
This could be two or three pages as it's printed today, is about Huntsman.
And the first thing that's mentioned here is there's a New York Times magazine piece next Sunday, six days from now, on Huntsman.
And it's entitled, is he always like this?
I first met John Weaver, longtime professional and personal rival of Carl Rove aboard John McCain's Straight Talk Express in 2000.
Weaver was one of McCain's small coterie of adoptive little brothers, furtive, a bit mysterious, but also creative and overdrinks at one or another hotel bar, surprisingly idealistic.
Political strategists are forever in search of the next big thing, some undiscovered talent who might someday be enshrined in marble, or at least make them household names the way Bush did for Rove, the way Obama did for David Axelrod.
So you see, Huntsman, as contrasted to Rick Perry or any other Republican, not just Rick Perry, but Huntsman, why this guy could turn the next consultant into the next superstar consultant like Rove became or like Axelrod became or like Carville and McGaller became with Clinton.
That's the power of John Huntsman.
That's one of the things that's exciting.
So the consultancy community, if you will, all excited here.
Now, remember, who are we talking about?
We're talking about people who know one thing in politics, and that's how to lose presidential races.
I don't know Weaver.
I've never met Weaver, and I've really, I've never met McCain, but contrast this.
Bush, elected president twice, alien, hated so much, we can't have anybody from Texas as a Republican nominee because the country hates Texas because the country hates Bush.
But we are going to listen to the architects of loser after loser after loser in the presidential field as some great oracle.
These are the people going to tell us how to win elections, not the people who've actually won them.
These are the also rans or the pretenders.
Like listen to John Kerry, have him go out and tell us how to win a presidential race or a nominee.
That's how convoluted this is.
And that's just one small paragraph on Huntsman.
A lot of political handicappers, particularly those on the left, who tend to view the Republican base as monolithic and somewhat medieval, doubt that Huntsman can even win enough delegates to earn himself a decent speaking slot at the convention.
But some of the more sober-minded Republican insiders of Washington, New Hampshire, persuaded me that by distancing himself from the party's more populist influences, Huntsman was giving Republicans and independents a chance to win.
So it's the same old recipe for defeat that's shaping up here.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Tell us how to lose.
Let's go get the people that are architects of defeat.
They're the experts.
They know what we have to do to win, even though they have never pulled it off.
And that's who we'll listen to, and that's what's shaping up.
Okay, we'll get to your phone calls quickly in the next hour when we get back, as promised.
So sit tight.
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