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June 16, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 16, 2011, Thursday, Hour #2
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Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
I am Rush Lindbaugh, the big voice on the right, behind the golden EIB microphone.
Happy to have you along, ladies and gentlemen, as we chug full speed into the summer.
When is Father's Day?
Is Father's Day this Sunday?
We're calling it Founding Father's Day at my new company, 2FBT.
We're calling it Founders Father's Day.
Anyway, great to have you here.
Telephone number, if you want to be on the program, is 800-282-2882.
And the email address, lrushbaugh at EIBNet.com.
Okay, here's the story in the AMA.
The AMA to reconsider support of health insurance requirement.
Faction contends that key tenet of overhaul legislation is a matter of individual responsibility to be encouraged by the use of tax incentives and other non-compulsory measures.
A divided American Medical Association will consider withdrawing its support of a key tenet of the health care overhaul law that requires Americans to buy an insurance plan.
Now, the AMA is based in Chicago.
They represent nearly a quarter million physicians.
And they're being asked by several medical societies within the organization to change its stance in favor of the individual mandate.
I don't know if they're running for office or not.
This is amazing how things change whenever you do approach an election, inside and outside politics.
A formal vote comes up at the AMA's annual policymaking House of Delegates meeting Saturday through Wednesday at the Hyatt Regency in Chicago.
The AMA's support of the healthcare legislation, which was passed by Congress, signed it, blah, blah, blah, seen as critical at the time the controversial legislation was being debated.
A delegate's debate comes following the filing of federal lawsuits by several attorneys, blah, blah, blah.
We all know of this.
Now, the resolution will be introduced by three national surgery groups, the American Society of General Surgeons and six largely southern state delegations of physicians, says that the federal mandate regulating the individual purchase of health insurance will likely undermine the innovations and improvements in healthcare financing that can evolve in a free market.
AMA should regard the purchase of health insurance to be a matter of individual responsibility, to be encouraged by the use of tax incentives.
And well, now this is fine and dandy.
Now, look, there are 20 other groups.
It's not the entire AMA, folks.
And by the way, the AMA is not what it used to be.
Physician membership in the AMA has decreased now to less than 20% of practicing physicians.
So you could say that the physicians that are members of the AMA are fringe group.
There are that few practicing physicians still in the AMA.
But it doesn't matter because it carries a lot of weight based on reputation and just the name of the group, the AMA.
But I just, I love these people.
They come along after the fact, realizing the damage has been done.
And now to save a little face, guess what?
It's time.
We've got to rethink this.
It's a small percentage of the entire AMA in the first place, but nevertheless, it's happening.
Speaking of doctors, listen to this.
This is from UPI.
A survey by Accenture Indicates more American doctors are selling their private practices to work at larger health care systems.
By 2013, less than one-third of U.S. physicians are expected to remain in private practice.
Patients may increasingly find that being treated by physicians in private, small practice settings may be a thing of the past.
Kirsten Kristen of Fissory, senior executive at Accenture Health, said health reform is challenging the entire system to deliver improved care through insight-driven health.
Physicians tell the survey here, the survey by Accenture, that they are increasingly attracted to the benefits offered by hospital-based employment opportunities, which include a big one, relief from administrative responsibilities.
Doctors are notoriously horrible at that because they hate it, which I totally can relate to.
Many doctors consider themselves to be artists.
As such, they think of themselves as creative and administrative stuff.
That's minutiae.
It's just a waste of that.
They hate it.
They despise.
I do.
I despise having to, oh, my, you know, I still pay all my own bills and I hate it.
Well, let's just put it, I do not, I have, it's the one thing I've not farmed out to somebody.
I still do it for a whole host of reasons, but I still hate it.
From the time it takes, just to the whole concept of being involved in administrative duties.
So these doctors, here's the point here.
If you are the Obama regime and you're trying to move everybody down the tracks toward full-fledged government-run healthcare, there are a number of things that you need to have happen.
And one is fewer and fewer and fewer options for patients for coverage and for insurance.
And the regime has done a good job in writing this health care bill of in five to ten years, removing practically every option but the government.
If you can get doctors to willingly give up their private practices, if you can somehow encourage doctors to give up the entrepreneurial aspects of the gig and force them into hospital employment or government employment, and you use as the carrot, hey, come join us, we'll handle all the administrative for you.
I'm telling you, it's going to work.
It will be very attractive to you.
I don't know how many of you, I know this is a blanket indictment, and I don't mean it to be because it's not true of every doctor, just like nothing is true of every single person in line of work.
But I, well, of course, we all know doctors.
You've been in doctor's office.
Sometimes the desks I see with undone administrative business piling up checks, forms to fill out Medicare.
I mean, you put it off, put it off.
It's the last thing in the world these guys want to do.
Women, too, don't misunderstand those, but anything gender-specific.
So the farther doctors get from private practice, which is the entrepreneurial model, the fewer doctors who essentially hang a shingle as lawyers do when they get out of law school, just open their own orifice.
The farther you can get doctors away from private practice, their own offices, the more amenable they will become to government and bureaucratic control of their profession, because it's going to take over an aspect of it that they detest.
And note here the first benefit.
Physicians tell the survey they are increasingly attracted to the benefits offered by hospital-based employment opportunities, which include relief from administrative responsibilities.
That's the first benefit.
Relief from all these administrative responsibilities.
Now, in addition, it must be pointed out that today, the bulk of these administrative responsibilities are due to all of the government reporting requirements and all the paperwork required by government and the boondoggle of Medicare.
And so here comes an opportunity to get rid of all that and have bureaucrats do it.
Believe me, it's going to be very attractive for a lot of these doctors to say, okay, fine.
So a slow, creeping progression here toward the whittling away of health care, both insurance and coverage and treatment being provided in the private sector.
Private physicians are going to be as rare as mortgage brokers, thanks to the government.
Now, we talked yesterday about the damage that the government has done to the healthcare industry, not just costs, but the degree of treatment, every aspect of it.
It's just a mess.
And they're doing the same thing now to the home industry.
So it's popping up out there.
Now, all these AMA guys, hey, guess what?
You know, we think it was a mistake, the individual mandate.
Too little, too late, but at least they're on the right side of it.
What is it?
Here's another sign.
This is just reminiscent of something that happened at Port St. Lucie, Florida, a year or so ago, maybe two years now.
A Georgia woman called 911 to report the delivery of a wrong order from a Chinese restaurant.
The Savannah, Georgia Metro Police released an audio recording of a recent call to local media to highlight the type of calls people should not be making in 911.
The woman said when she was asked what was her emergency, I need the police.
It's this Hong Kong restaurant-type restaurant to go.
I ordered food and they done bring the wrong food.
I done brought it outside and they ain't going to give me my money back and I need my money.
Uh-huh, I need someone to handle this.
They ain't going to do me in any kind of way.
They released that call showing how stupid citizens are wasting their time and resources.
In Port St. Lucie, they call 911 when they're out of chicken McNuggets.
In Savannah, they're calling 911 when the Hong Kong Chinese restaurant delivers the incorrect stuff.
Call 911.
Where does this start?
Seriously now, where does a citizen get the idea called 911?
It's exactly right.
The government fixes everything.
Exactly right, Mr. Snerdley.
The government fixes everything.
So if the Chinese restaurant screws you and doesn't bring you the egg fuo young that you want and they brought you to Kung Pao Chicken And they won't change your order and give you what you want.
You call 911.
If McDonald's doesn't have chicken McNuggets, you call 911.
Government fixes everything from Obama's stash.
Authorities say that making this kind of call can result in help being delayed to those who really need it, and that can be the difference between life and death.
Now, this woman could be charged with abusing 911, a misdemeanor, but the cops let her off with a warning.
Too dumb to charge, basically.
I mean, why would you want this person in your jail?
You know, you're the cops.
It's bad enough, the dregs of society, human debris you see every day.
Why do you want this kind of idiocy in your jail or even in your court system?
I don't know, folks.
Some days you just have to wonder.
Oh, I'm going to tell you.
I'm going to tip it.
I got it.
We got from North Charleston, South Carolina.
I'm waiting on the audio of this.
I don't have the audio yet.
I got to send it up to Cookie.
Authorities have released a 911 recording of a 41-year-old guy asking for a canine unit to help him after not getting the correct change in a drug deal.
In the Friday morning audio recording, Dexter White tells a 911 dispatcher a drug dealer didn't give him the correct amount of narcotics during a purchase on Thursday night.
It's from May 5th and last month.
Well, the government fixes everything.
Drug deal, you didn't get the right change.
So, anyway, Sternley wants to know how the first day went at 2 If by T. Folks, bursting with pride, busting buttons, filled with gratitude and thanks.
Orders are still pouring in for this stuff.
You know, yesterday, we introduced 2IF by T new product and iced tea, brand new iced tea available on the market, not in stores, only on our website, 2ifbytea.com or by phone at our call center.
We're not yet selling this retail.
We want to make it fair for everybody to be able to get it.
And it would not have been possible to get retail nationwide distribution.
Our call center number is 866-662-1776.
And the website is 2IFBT.com.
It's the best tasting team.
We've been working on this in secret for 10 months.
I couldn't even tell my friends about it because we didn't have any corporate sponsor or backing, no corporate partner.
And if word got out what we were doing, all it would take is some corporation could have put this together in a couple of months, probably with a large staff that we've got.
So we kept it on a down low.
The testing went on for two, three months.
Bottling started a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago now.
I went there for the historic day that that was.
But it's just in every phase, folks, it is excellence in tea.
And I got the logo is me, Rush Revere.
And the liberals are coming.
You are not going to want to throw away these bottles.
The labels are going to win awards.
Finest labels in the beverage business.
The shrink wrap.
Tea comes in cases of 12, 12 packs.
I'm holding a six-pack up right now and shrink wrap.
And for those of you that did a cam, you can see it.
Look at that blue.
Look at the gorgeous color on the shrink wrap and the label.
The tea inside the bottle or 16-ounce bottles is the best that you have ever tasted.
And everybody says, Well, what is what is your favorite?
If I were to tell you my favorite, I would cause a run on it.
I could tell you the number of orders we had, but there's no basis.
You wouldn't have any way of knowing whether that's all it exceeded expectations by a factor of five.
We were still purchasing additional bandwidth last night to handle the crush at the website.
And we thought we had servers in the cloud.
We thought we had it covered.
We have experience with this kind of thing.
We shut down other people's websites.
And I shut down my own for a while.
It took a while.
So, yeah, we were still buying additional website bandwidth last night.
So just go to 2ifbytea.com.
It's a great website.
Some of the history is there, some of the explanation of why we're doing this, what it's all about.
We have, ladies and gentlemen, a proud sponsor.
We are working with the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation.
We are donating a minimum of $100,000 to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation starting in June of this year.
They are a sponsor we have with the T.
The Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, of course, provides college scholarships for the children of Marines killed in action.
And in some cases, members of other military branches who are killed in action.
And there's a history of T and me on this program going back to the very days of this program's beginning.
Here's an individual bottle, by the way.
This, for those of you on the Ditto Cam, let me zoom in here.
Turn the Ditto Cam off.
I just want you to see this up close.
If you haven't had a chance here to go to the website, let's zoom in.
I'm going to zoom in a little tighter yet.
Okay, here we go.
Turn the Ditto Cam back on.
There you go.
That's Rush Revere warning the country.
The liberals are coming.
Now, this is the Diet Raspberry version.
That's what I happen to be drinking right now.
We have regular and regular diet and raspberry and diet raspberry right now.
People want to know, will there be additional flavors?
I'm certain we have left ourselves countless growth opportunities.
It's 23.76 free shipping.
A 12-pack is $23.76.
We ship free anywhere in the U.S. in the 48 states on the continent.
There's an additional charge for Alaska and Hawaii.
We had orders by the first two hours of yesterday, we had orders in all 50 states.
What do you think?
We have instant analytics.
We can judge at that very moment where the orders are coming in from.
What do you think the state is with the largest number of orders that we've had?
And this is, it's in flux and it changes, but it's California.
Yep, California.
And it's close.
I mean, there are a lot of other states that are close as well.
But it's exciting.
And it is growing by leaps and bounds, just like this program is.
We have the hardest part of putting it together.
I don't know, because it was all so much fun.
Look, the hardest part of putting is all the legals and all the FDA regs and all of the administrative stuff, but I was just describing it.
Doctors have to go through.
All the obstacles that are put in the, one of the reasons I did this, by the way, honest to God, folks, was to show that even in an Obama economy, that entrepreneurism can run.
Now, I'm not guaranteed a profit.
We're not guaranteed it, but we took a product from nothing to market in 10 months.
And we'll see.
Nobody is guaranteed a profit, and I'm not guaranteed a profit on this either.
There are a lot of startup costs here, which we happily spent.
But the end result, it's our baby.
We just love it.
Folks, let me tell you something.
Two if by tea, my tea is cheaper than some brands of designer water.
And this is real tea.
It's made and it's brewed in these giant vats.
It's an amazing thing to watch.
We had actual food scientists that we're working with and the ingredients and the recipe and the taste testing.
But there's nothing fancy here.
Basics, folks.
Keep it simple.
The simple pursuit of excellence in every bottle.
Folks, I'm going to tell you, we have the finest black tea available.
We have the ingredients picked by the finest pickers, selected by the finest selectors and produced by the best producers.
It's just delicious.
It's amazing, actually, to be part of this.
Again, the phone number, if you don't have the ability to buy on the internet, and that's the internet, our website's the fastest way.
The free shipping is three days guaranteed.
Well, guaranteed.
It's tough to say, but it's the maximum three days is the odds.
We got warehouses in every region of the country to make shipping time as fast as it can be.
The shipping's El Fribo, but the phone number is 866-662-1776.
2IFBYT.com.
And by the way, one of the things that we made sure to do, we had enough product here for our rollout to handle a massive national demand.
I actually talked about this with Catherine.
I said, you know what we could do?
We could roll out.
Nobody would know.
We could roll out with a small amount and proclaim a sellout the first day and make it look like, oh my God, my God, look at the demand.
Or we could roll out in a huge quantity and make sure that all the demand that's there is met.
And we went back and forth because both are traditional practices.
I mean, I'm convinced that there are a lot of businesses who produce well below demand expectations to create this image of overwhelming demand to create interest.
But I finally said this doesn't do us any good for people who want the product to not be able to get it.
Plus, we've got a five-week turnaround from the time we give an order to start bottling in the quantities we bottle.
It's a three to five-week turnaround.
So we decided to roll out with sufficient quantity to handle the demand of a thirsty nation.
And we did it in time for Founders Father's Day, which is this Sunday.
And we haven't even begun our 4th of July push.
Two if by tea made for the 4th of July for your 4th of July barbecues, picnics, tea parties, what have you, made to order.
That's coming down the pike.
Here is Neil in Tona, Wisconsin.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Thank you.
I'm a state worker for the state of Wisconsin in a secure treatment facility.
And so this is kind of weird being a Republican in a union like this.
But the point of, I think you're missing here on the current union situation is we're not ever, we haven't come out and fought against the cuts and the actual pay increases, the additional contributions for health and retirement.
Our big thing is they're taking away the collective bargaining.
I know that.
I should have clarified.
It's the media.
It was this AP story that was crying over the fact that you all are facing a pay cut now.
Yeah, effective pay cut because with this new law, you're going to have to pay 12 cents of every dollar you spend on health care, 5.8 cents of every dollar your pension.
I know that what the state workers are concerned about there is losing the collective bargaining right.
Can I tell you what I think about that?
Go answer.
Pardon me?
Oh, go ahead.
I think FDR was right.
And a number of other Democrats in way back.
You simply cannot have state or federal workers unionized.
Who do they collectively bargain against?
They're bargaining against the people.
Who is it that pays the state workers?
It's not the fat cat in a corporate suite smoking a cigar, flying around on his jet.
The person who pays the federal or state government worker is his neighbor or a total composition of his neighbors.
And to go into collective bargaining against those people, what FDR knew, he was a smart Democrat.
What he knew was the last thing that he wanted to happen was for the people to hate government.
As a liberal, he wanted people to love God.
I guarantee FDR is, if he were alive today, he would be ecstatic that people are calling 911 because a Chinese restaurant screwed up.
He would be ecstatic people are calling 911 because they're out of chicken McNuggets.
He would be ecstatic they're calling 911 because the guy got the wrong change in a drug deal.
You know why?
Because guys like FDR have been, they devoted their careers to creating total dependence of government on people.
This is a home run.
This is what's sad.
This is what really sickens me and infuriates me.
We sit here and laugh about it at the stupidity.
But folks, there's a reason.
There's a reason that it happens now and it used to not happen.
There's a reason that poor people, when they don't get their chicken McNuggets or when the wrong recipe is delivered from the Chinese restaurant, call 911 because they've told the governments where they go to get everything fixed.
And 911 is an emergency number.
They know somebody's going to answer that.
Well, I'm telling you, this is a sign that we are heading down the path and have been on the wrong path for a long, long time.
But Democrats love this privately.
They're patting each other on the back over this.
And what this is, this is bad because this whole notion of collective bargaining means that state and federal workers look at the people of the country as the enemy.
They are the big boss man.
They're the ones paying them.
FDR knew that you create that kind of friction.
You're going to have average Americans hating government, and that's not what Democrats want.
So I know that the vast majority of the union workers Wisconsin are ticked off about losing the collective bargaining right.
A lot of us think that it should have never been granted in the first place.
The federal employees don't have it.
Federal government employees do not have collective bargaining.
And I think there are a number of states where they don't have it either because it pits citizen against citizen.
And there's a host of other reasons that's a bad idea, too, but that's at the top of the list.
I'm glad you called.
Neil, thanks so much.
This is Marty in Louisville.
Hey, Rosh, listen, I'm a physician.
I've been listening since around 1992.
Thank you, sir.
And you were talking about getting physicians out of private practice.
All the incentives in Obamacare are to go towards a single payer.
And they form something called an accountable care organization where the money is given to the hospital for the diagnosis.
And the hospital distributes it, redistributes it to the physician.
And the hospitals are in the process right now of forming these accountable care organizations.
Accountable care, you're calling it.
Right, right.
And it is going to compel the physician to become an employee, basically, of the hospital and ultimately the government.
You know, the dirty little secret here is they want to get rid of old school docs like me who are familiar with the private practice model and replace them with the post office mentality physician.
Exactly.
And that's exactly what it's all about.
And it's not even voluntary because the physician is going to be forced into a relationship with the hospital where he is going to basically have to give up the private practice.
Well, the story alludes to the fact that some doctors might not mind that because one of the benefits is that the hospital or whoever is going to take over all the nightmares and headaches of their administrative, the administrative aspects of the job.
Yeah, they're also going to tell them what they can and can't do and how to treat the patient.
Already doing that.
Yes.
Well, the point is that that's exactly what they intend.
And they really, and it's working.
It's absolutely working.
Okay, as a doctor in the system, why are these bureaucrats doing this?
Do they really think that this is the ticket to better health care and cheaper health care and a healthier system?
What do they really?
Because anybody with common sense realizes this is a debacle.
Listen, it's about control.
They want the system.
They want control of our lives.
Exactly right.
And they don't.
They want to change our whole relationship with the government.
And they don't care whether it works or is efficient or not.
They want the control.
They're Democrats.
There is no accountability.
You know, it's ironically named an accountable care organization.
It's anything but accountable.
Just like it's not the Affordable Care Act.
It's everything but affordable.
Correct.
Well, I appreciate the call, Marty.
What are you going to do?
I happen to be a plastic surgeon.
So far, I have an out because a lot of the things I do don't involve third-party payers.
Oh, yeah.
But, you know, I hope no one's listening because they'll figure out a way to tax me to death pretty soon.
Yeah, we all have that fear.
If not tax you, just take it.
Yeah, or, yeah.
And, you know, I think one of the underlying plans here is to begin to confiscate.
You know, there's a possibility here, and I know this sounds a little outlandish, that they're going to change the 401k rules to try to pay for the deficit, to generate income.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've talked about that.
What they essentially are going to do is offer you an exchange.
They're going to get you to give up your 401k, give you what they think is market value for it today.
They can take the money, and then they're going to guarantee you like 2% to 3% every year on it.
It's a lose-lose proposition.
It's nothing more than an end-around to get their hands on your money now in violation of the original promise when the whole 401k was set up.
Right.
Well, listen, this is why we must defeat Obama.
And I'll tell you something.
Newt had a point.
Newt made a point in the debate.
He said, if you're really serious about overturning health care, you can't stop with just defeating Obama.
You've got to defeat the Democrats that run the Senate.
You have to be able, if you're going to repeal it, if you're going to defund it, you have to have control of the Senate as well.
Even if you're not able to beat Obama, still take control of the Senate.
But the best thing is take control of everything.
It's going to take this election and many more to effectively start the process of rolling all this back.
And we'll find out if that's what people really want.
We have hope here that it is.
We'll find out.
Appreciate the call, Marty.
We'll be back after a brief timeout.
Sit tight.
Okay, Wiener is going to quit at 2 o'clock.
That's the theory.
Little note for our affiliates down the line on the EIB network.
A number of them have asked if we're going to carry the Wiener resignation live.
A lot of this is going to depend on when he starts.
If he starts straight up 2 o'clock on time, no, obviously not.
Because we'll be in the local news break.
You'll be in your local news break and we'll be carrying anything.
You probably will be, but we won't.
So if they started on time, probably not.
If Wiener has not started by the time our third hour begins, we probably will carry it in Jibital, but I don't know that we'll stick with it for the whole thing.
I don't know how long it's going to go, and I don't know how long it takes to say I resign.
We'll see.
I don't know if he's going to take questions or what?
We fly by the seat of our pants on this stuff.
It's the most fun way to do it anyway.
That's the best that I can tell you.
So fly by your seat of your pants with us, and we'll be cool.
Now, the cable nets have already cut away from their normal programming to standby for Wiener's 2 p.m. presser.
Really?
Here it is, 10 minutes for four wieners to quit.
They've already abandoned their regular programming, and there is standby mode, counting down to the wiener resignation.
We don't.
Here's Jody, Minneapolis.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
An absolute honor to speak with you.
I just wanted to point out that your point about the AMA numbers are actually quite correct.
The AMA numbers are, I'm proof positive that they're inflated.
As a physician, I've actually, I don't think, ever paid dues, though I've been a member of the AMA for many, many years.
They just keep giving me membership.
When they came out in support of the Obama Health Care Initiative, I called the membership office, very specifically asked if you've taken off all of their mailing lists and have my membership dropped.
Approximately six months later, I get a letter from the AMA stating, we hope you've reconsidered your position, and here's your next membership.
So even though I've been a member for many years, I've never paid dues.
I've never sent in money.
Right.
So the membership is not that large.
Not that many doctors are members anymore, right?
No, and a large number of the membership numbers are people like me.
They have never actually paid for a membership, and we're counted in those numbers.
Right.
All right.
I appreciate that.
Thanks very much Jody.
This is Jerry.
We move to Battle Creek, Michigan.
You're next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
It's great talking to you.
It's great talking to you.
Thank you, sir, very much.
I left the AMA back in the early 90s when the Dark Amendment passed and the AMA clearly was not supportive of primary care physicians.
And I guess I didn't leave them.
They left me.
I keep getting the mailings and JAMA articles.
And it'd be fine with me if they quit sending me their stuff, but they really don't represent my interests and clearly seem to be interested in another agenda.
No, they pay a political organization, and that's why the left and the media touting them as being big and this is important and so forth.
They used to be.
The AMA used to a lot more members than it has now.
It was a huge organization.
It did carry a lot of weight, had a great reputation, and they're still living off that.
Of course, since they make the right political decisions, or have had, media still trumpets them as what they were.
Big, powerful, influential, when, in fact, they're not nearly as influential or big as they were.
So look, it's still significant, though, that whatever remaining membership numbers there are are still saying, you know, well, maybe this individual mandate's not the way to go.
I still am struck by the timing.
Why now?
Where were you when it mattered?
It might have mattered if the AMA had come out against this from the get-go and stuck to its guns.
You never know.
Obama was buying allegiance to his plan with health insurance executives.
He was doing it with other health care providers and so forth.
But you have to wonder.
Anyway, they've arrived at the right point of view on it, albeit late.
We'll take it.
Nevertheless, got to go.
We'll be back, my friends.
Remember, the program never ends.
Just a few brief pauses here and there.
Guess what?
The Earth is facing a mini-ice age within 10 years due to a rare drop in sunspot activity.
And yet Al Gore has just endorsed Mitt Romney.
Well, endorsed him, but he's praised Mitt Romney for his stance on man-made global warming.
Sunspot's expected to disappear for years, maybe decades after 2020, and that could cause a mini-ice age.
Hang with us, folks, on the Wiener resignation.
We'll be back.
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