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April 6, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 6, 2011, Wednesday, Hour #2
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You know, we've been uh oh and uh an old people.
We've been going back to the archives.
If you're just joining us, we have been going back to the archives of previous programs as far back as 16 years ago to demonstrate the Democrat reaction to the new Republican budget that Paul Ryan presented yesterday.
It's nothing new.
They always claim that people are gonna die, old people, kids, whatever, Republican budgets kill people.
When in fact, if anybody's gonna die because of government action in this country, it's gonna be because of Obamacare and death panels.
Now I want to take you back to June 24th, 2009.
ABC had a primetime special, Questions for the President, prescription for America.
A member of the audience, Jane Sturm, had a question.
She said, My mother is now over 105.
But when she was 100, the doctor said to her, I can't do anything more unless you have a pacemaker.
And I said, go for it.
She said, go for it.
The doctor said no, she's too old.
But when the other specialist saw her, saw her joy of life so forth.
He said, I'm gonna go for it.
I'm gonna put the pacemaker in.
That was over five years ago.
Outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who's elderly.
Is there any now keep keep in mind here what we've got here?
We have an American citizen asking the president of the United States.
Is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit?
A certain joy of living, a quality of life, or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age?
She is asking Obama essentially whether or not under his plan her mother would be allowed to live, would be allowed to get a pacemaker.
Because the government is going to have the power to decide whether or not her mother got one.
Here's what Obama said.
I don't think that we can make judgments based on people's spirit.
That'd be uh a pretty subjective decision to be making.
I think we have to have rules that uh say that we are going to provide good quality care for all people.
End of life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we're gonna have to make.
But understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another.
If they're not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they're being made by private insurers.
At least we can let doctors know and your mom know that you know what, maybe this isn't gonna help.
Maybe you're better off uh not having the surgery, but taking uh the painkiller.
There's Obama telling the woman's basic, your mother, no, her spirit willing to live.
No, that's we can't factor that in.
Give her a pain pill.
Her mother dies because of Obama and his health care plan.
If anybody dies because of government action in this country, it will not be because of Republican budgets.
It will be because of Barack Obama care.
The health care law that is now the unconstitutional health law of the land.
Let's turn to Wisconsin, where there is a Supreme Court election.
Uh well, it took place yesterday, and they're counting the votes now.
We got a third world, we're gonna have Florida all over.
Florida recount, it's shaping up.
Uh this is gonna be Beirut for the lawyers.
I mean, it's just get ready for this.
The uh the Chief Justice of the Wisconsin State Supreme Court is Shirley Abrahamson or Abramson.
She is a sworn enemy of the incumbent Republican Prosser.
The opponent, the Democrat opponent of Prosser, is Ms. Klappenberg.
Ms. Kloppenberg was an intern for the Chief Justice, Shirley Abramson.
She would get to decide, the Chief Justice would get to decide who would hear the case on the recount.
Now this is a classic conflict of interest.
This should result in a recusal by the Chief Justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, but it probably won't, because that would require honor.
And that would the Supreme Court balance is 4-3 Republican in Wisconsin if she would recuse herself.
That would upset the balance.
They're not going to do that.
They don't the reason this is all happening anyway is because they don't like the election results of last November.
What happens?
The losing candidate in Wisconsin has to file a petition in the circuit court, which in Wisconsin is a trial court.
That petition has to be filed within five days of the completion of a recount.
And because it's a statewide election, the chief justice of the Supreme Court selects which judicial district shall hear the case.
The circuit court judge hears the case without a jury.
And the losing party at this level can then appeal to Wisconsin's fourth district court of appeals within 30 days.
Now, what's the latest on the count?
This had been it's uh all day long, it's been reported that Prosser was up by 500 and 400, 600, 300, some odd.
The last missing precinct, the latest information I have, the last missing precinct to be counted in Wisconsin is Jefferson County.
If voting patterns in Jefferson County hold for their final precinct, last precinct should give Prosser a 100 to 120 vote margin.
Now Kloppenberg, a Democrat, right now is up by 235 with one precinct left to go.
So if Prosser can get this 100 to 120 vote margin, which is expected because of voting patterns there would take Kloppenberg down to uh 115 votes, maybe to 135 from 235.
That would mean the Republican Prosser would be on the losing side.
Now the problem here is that in Wisconsin, for any of these things, 75% of the case is leading it when it's over.
And it would have been really helpful if Prosser here was leading when this whole thing ended.
Uh not quite sure, who knows when this uh final tally from Jefferson County comes in.
But Klappenburg, Democrat now up by 235, and if the 100 to 120 vote margin in Jefferson County, Wisconsin comes through as expected, that would take the margin down to 115, maybe 135.
That would be worth fighting.
That would be worth filing for a recount.
You know the Democrats would.
The media would lead the charge.
So it's it's a in by the way, Prosser gained votes uh early this morning in counts in places that they wasn't supposed to, again, based on existing uh patterns.
So the news is not uh all that bad.
But again, the Chief Justice is a sworn enemy of Prosser.
His opponent, Klappenberg, was her intern.
You've got a classic conflict of interest recusal here.
But we wouldn't expect that to happen.
So that's the latest we have on this.
Uh we will keep a uh a sharp eye on this, of course, but it's gonna end up, I fear, being Florida 2000 all over again.
Beirut for the lawyers, if you will.
Also, speaking of Beirut for the lawyers, the NFL case was heard today.
The players and the owners went to federal court in Minneapolis, actually in St. Paul, where Judge Nelson heard the complaints.
Basically, this is about whether or not the lockout of the NFO players is legal.
Because the union decertified and now a trade association.
And their claim is that a trade association is a bunch of individuals, not a single performing union or unit.
And therefore that the league, which is now 32 separate businesses, cannot lock them out.
So did there's an injunction right now so the judge is going to hear this case.
A lot of people were hoping for a ruling today that probably won't happen.
But again, it's wide open speculation as to what the ruling will be.
Whatever it is, it's going to be appealed as well.
But if the uh the expected ruling is that the lockout will be lifted, that the judge will find that the lockout must be lifted, cannot remain.
Well, nobody knows what would happen if what rules go into effect after that?
Well, you would assume that the rules from last season on free agent signing and trades and uh and is the normal the doors to the practice facilities would open up, players can go back in, uh practice uh the OTAs uh would begin.
These uh you know light practices.
Uh so it's it's it's it's not really clear what would happen because there's not a set of rules going forward.
The current agreement ended back in March.
So let's see, where else are we?
Um, results at this moment, Supreme Court reporting 99%.
Joanne Klappenburg.
Uh see, it's they're both at 50%, but the and the numbers, let me look at this real carefully 79, 73, 40, 40, 50, 50, 54.
500, it's basically a 200-point swing here in favor of the Democrat code.
200 vote difference.
Worth fighting for.
Jefferson County, which is gonna narrow it.
We'll see.
Meantime, obscene profit timeout time will be back and continue right after this.
An interesting little factoid here about the Wisconsin Supreme Court election.
It's funny how Justice Prosser won the nonpartisan primary election recently.
It was 58 to 28 percent over his Democrat challenger, Joanne Clappenberg.
Won the nonpartisan primary 58 to 28 percent two months ago.
And then the unions pumped about three and a half million dollars of involuntary union dues into Wisconsin since then.
Where's the media outrage at all of the outside influence?
This is the classic illustration of my claim that all this ends up being is a money laundering operation that ends up being money and political coffers for Democrats.
So two months ago, the nonpartisan primary election, Prosser cleans up against Klappenburg uh in nonpartisan, meaning no party affiliation was a factor.
58, 28 percent.
And they come and have the after the primary, they have the final election.
Unions go in for three and a half million.
Where'd they get it?
That $3.5 million is Wisconsin taxpayer money.
That $3.5 million derives from the taxes collected by Wisconsinites, plus the union dues, which is also from Wisconsin taxpayers, because the Wisconsin public unions are paid 100% via the taxes of Wisconsin citizens.
That money ends up as taxation to the state of Wisconsin.
State of Wisconsin hires public employees, pays them with taxpayer revenue.
Of that taxpayer revenue, a percentage of it ends up as union dues, which are involuntarily donated, and they end up in Democrat Party campaign coffers.
And that's how in two months, three and a half, they say it's three and a half million dollars spent with a union, which technically truth, three and a half million dollars the union only has levied against Wisconsin citizens.
That's whose money it is.
Pure and simple.
Back to the phones of Cocoa, Florida, and Dawn.
Great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
I am so excited to get to talk to you.
This has been an it's just a dream to get to talk to you.
Literally, actually.
I've my sister and I have both dreamt of uh dating you at different times in our lives, so that's what it's like to be me, folks.
I it just is.
Anyway, I had an idea in the meantime um from your last caller, it reminded me of the Monty Python scene where they there go through and they call out, bring out your dead, and and ring that bell, and I don't know if you remember that scene, but um that might be one way to solve the I vaguely I was never a big Monty Python guy, but but I vaguely remembered that.
Okay, yeah, that it would also create jobs, I thought.
So if we could get something like that going, we could solve that problem.
But my main issue was um I I agree with your point on um well, I understand what the point you were making with slavery um and the the people on welfare being enslaved, but I think it would be more accurate to say that the taxpayers are the ones who are enslaved because slaves produce something, whereas uh the people who are are um on the dole are really not expected to to do anything at all.
Well, look, we're that you're you're you're slicing and dicing this in a fine point way, and I understand what you're saying, and I I don't disagree with it.
What we're really talking about here is indentured servitude.
And the the the point that I was making that she's uh responding to is that whenever the reason Democrats get hysterical when a budget cut is proposed is because it will lower, it will reduce the size of government.
It will increase economic and personal liberty.
And the Democrat Party survives, it exists on the dependency of people that it creates as dependence, people's needs.
I mean, stop no, we're not talking desires or wants when your needs, and I mean it in the strictest sense of the word, when your needs are provided by somebody else, you are essentially indentured to whoever it is that's providing your needs, whether you're working or not.
And this is what the Democrat Party does.
And the smaller government is, the less there is the opportunity for the creation of indentured servitude.
I use the word slave to tweak the media.
But essentially it works.
And whether we're talking about minorities, does it minorities is clearly accurate, but you don't have to be a minority to be an indentured servant of the Democrat Party.
You don't have to be.
But my point is that that's what you are.
That's the kind of voter they seek.
That's why they're so concerned about illegal immigration, for example.
Simple way to put this, the Democrats are completely dependent on making people dependent on them.
That's a simple way to put it.
Democrats are completely dependent on making people dependent on them.
Now, the dirty, you know, the real scandal, the dirty little secret here about this shutdown is in fact I got somebody just sent me a picture.
At the front door, and I'm sure there are many doors to the Smithsonian.
Big sign.
Sorry.
They're only showing the sign.
Sorry.
Because of the government shutdown, we are not permitted to open today.
The real scandal about the shutdown is that nobody.
Oh, so that that picture's in 1995.
That Smithsonian picture of 1995.
I'm sure they've still got the sign, though.
Ready to hang in the front door.
Now the real scandal about this is that nobody's going to be shut down, or very few are going to be shut down.
There were, let's see the number 2,748,000 plus civilian federal employees in the U.S. as of January 2009 is surely much higher after another year of Obama.
But Reuters is reporting that should the government be shut down, eight hundred thousand employees will be idled.
Only eight hundred thousand out of uh almost three million.
And you know where they'll be at the Washington Monument or at the uh Cherry Blossom Parade or other such place easily found by the media.
That will be the criteria will be.
Where can the media easily find evidence of the shutdown?
Where can we find children crying over not being able to get in to see the Lincoln Memorial?
Where can we find angry parents who have pictures of John Boehner with horns drawn on his head or something provided by the media?
Does anybody notice when the government shuts down for the ten federal holidays we have every year?
Do they notice when they shut down for snow days?
In point of fact, there were government shutdowns every year that Jimmy Carter was president.
They averaged eleven days each.
There were six shutdowns during President Reagan's two terms.
Anybody notice?
Media didn't even bother to report on them.
But this shutdown, this, like the one in ninety-five, will be because of the Republicans.
And so that's why this one will be noticed and why all of the pain and the suffering and the tears will be noted because they will say that this one is the fault of the Republicans.
Carrie, North Carolina, this is Sarah.
And you're up next on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi.
Um I'm having a little bit of problems with my phone right now.
It keeps cutting in and out, so can you hear me?
Yeah, plain as day.
Uh first first off, uh, my husband and I, we both listen to your show every morning.
And um I'm calling confused, and I'm glad that I'm able to listen to your station while I was waiting.
With this whole thing with the the shutdown, um, my husband got the news.
He I mean he's works he's a staff sergeant in the National Guard, and he's active guard, so he's not just a weekend warrior.
He he did that's his job.
Right.
You know.
He gets a meeting this morning saying that, you know, if they don't sign off on this budget thing that he's gonna be going to work, but he's not gonna be getting paid.
Right.
So I'm confused.
I don't know if I should be angry, and after, you know, like I said, you know, listening to you, like now I'm like, it maybe it won't happen, maybe it won't affect him.
So now I'm just confused.
Well, the um I think active duty military will be paid for a week.
Okay.
Active duty military will be paid for a week, and there are bills pending in both the House and Senate to secure military pay even during a shutdown.
Now those bills have not, at least as of this morning when I prepping the program, those bills had not been brought to the floor of either the House or the Senate.
But he's gonna get paid.
I guarantee if he doesn't get paid at the time, the back pay will happen.
They always have been paid.
Just, you know, not for nothing, like just thinking of like, you know, He's he's been to Iraq twice.
You know, it's like it just seems like you know, one of those questions like why would that even be a possibility that he wouldn't get paid?
You know?
I was thinking that's outlandish.
Why would that even be a question of him getting paid?
You know?
I would just figure that it would just happen.
Well you'd have to figure if they're gonna th they will continue to send out social security checks, for example.
Yeah.
No, no, the post office in its glory, uh will uh will remain open.
Uh and your husband will get paid.
Okay.
Well, like I said, you know, I'm glad that I was able to listen to some of it.
You know, if it if it were thanks if it were Thanksgiving or Christmas and you're gonna miss the turkey, you would get the turkey later.
Yeah.
No, no, I'm uh it sounds funny, but that's what happened in nineteen ninety-five.
Yeah.
All right.
Well he is gonna get paid.
This they're gonna but I want you to be prepared for something.
Yeah.
Somewhere out there, there are Democrats listening to your call, going, Yeah, yeah, this is what we want.
This is the kind of stuff.
We want military wives upset at the Republicans that their husbands aren't gonna get paid in the National Guard.
You Well, I mean, you know, my husband and I, we both are Republicans.
Well, I know that.
And not for nothing.
Like, you know, that was the first thing I thought of when he was telling me about it.
I'm like, why when we're just starting to get the majority, would Republicans do something like this?
You know?
Like, I mean, that's just outlandish.
You know, like that just the Republicans aren't doing it.
Well, you know, after listening to you now, I'm starting to get a little bit, you know.
I'm reading online though, and I'm like trying to look at like news channels and I can't find anything.
And this is the first time I've ever called a radio station before I just wanted to know what's going on.
Well, what specifically have you been trying to find out?
Whether or not your husband will get paid?
Whether or not he's getting paid, why exactly that would be even be a possibility that he wouldn't get paid.
Um w I mean I I just confused.
But you know, I'm getting a little bit more clarity after listening to you.
Well, you know, the Democrats are players here, and and the the Democrats have a have a little say so here too.
You know, Democrats d haven't even done a budget.
Um what they're doing, and Democrats are holding back on defense uh precisely to create pressure, such as uh action from people like you.
Yeah.
Uh you know, they're they're teachers and librarians of the federal government that are gonna get paid.
Um but you know they're gonna they're gonna have to refuse to pass the budget and or Obama has to veto it, one of the two.
So whoever is to blame here is is a Democrat.
The Republicans are the only ones taking seriously the responsibility for a budget whereby the money to pay your husband would come.
The Democrats are punting.
The Democrats are doing nothing.
Democrats are trying to thwart all this uh uh for for political game.
You can listen to 'em.
Old people are gonna die in the streets.
Republicans are gonna kill old people, Republicans don't care about the military.
It's all a crock.
Yeah.
Well, uh one thing that I didn't realize was, you know, uh government shutdowns have happened before, you know.
Oh, Jimmy.
How old are you?
That's sound completely ignorant.
You know, um I do try to follow, you know, the news and stuff like that, but you know, I think that's uh it's exactly what you're saying.
You know, they're trying to target certain areas, they're trying to create hysteria, and well, it kind of worked today.
They know an hour and a half waiting to talk about.
She can't hear me, folks of our state of the art phone system.
Uh how old are you?
I'm thirty-one.
You're thirty-one.
Okay.
So that's you know that's how old Jackie Kennedy was when she was first lady.
Oh wow.
Pretty close to that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Imagine yourself being first lady.
Having to redo the White House, you know, check all the rooms to see what your husband's doing in the White House.
I'd go with Paisley, Paisley, definitely.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to make a joke like that.
Now I should I want to point something else out to you, Sarah.
The bills that are pending in both the House and Senate to see to it that the military get paid during the shutdown are Republican bills.
They have not been offered by Democrats in the House, the Senate, and the Senate, the Democrats are the ones holding the bill to keep it from coming to a vote.
Okay.
The Republicans are not the ones responsible if your husband doesn't get paid immediately here.
Not for nothing, you know, like I don't care Who's responsible?
You know, like I You've got to start caring.
I'm glad it's not.
I'm glad it's not, but at the same time, it's like I don't understand why we're not going to be able to do that.
I know.
Look, I under I understand that, but you've got to start caring.
This stuff does matter.
What what is your husband?
This is none of my business.
I'm sorry, what was that?
Well, I don't even I don't feel comfortable.
I was gonna ask what what what kind of money we're talking about here in a month.
Yeah, no, that that's irrelevant.
Uh but that's that's well, no, it's not irrelevant.
It's not my business.
But it's not irrelevant.
It's it's uh it's important to you guys.
Very sorry, but my phone is cutting up again.
Um I can't hear you now.
I don't know if you can still hear me, but I do want to say thank you.
I'm gonna try to go online and uh listen to your show more.
If you do that, I don't know if you heard that or not, but you'll never have another question.
If you do that, you'll never have another question.
I'm glad you called Sarah.
Don't give up here, don't give up.
Okay, Sarah.
Sarah was calling, she's got the husband.
The last caller has the husband in the National Guard.
She's calling me.
I'm flattered.
But Sarah, if you could, the people you should be calling are President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reed.
They didn't pass a budget.
Now let me go through this.
Very simple.
The only reason there is going to be a shutdown if there is, and I still don't believe there's gonna be a shutdown.
But if there is a shutdown, it will be because Democrat Senators will have refused to pass the budget, or because Obama vetoes the budget.
Whoever is to blame here is a Democrat.
The Republicans have presented a budget.
Last fall, the Democrats and the President did not present a budget, which is required constitutionally.
The Democrats did not present a budget because they didn't want their plans to be seen during an election year.
Because Democrat budget plans are not what the American people want.
They do not want continued unfunded spending, deficit spending, debt upon debt piled up.
So the Democrats punted.
The Democrats voted present, the Democrats chickened out.
That's why we're even doing continuing resolutions every week, pass another stopgap bill that keeps the government running for a week or two.
All because the Democrats didn't do a budget.
So the Republicans have presented a budget.
The Democrats in Obama are trying to stop the budget.
They are the ones causing the shutdown.
It's really that simple.
It's just as Bill Clinton vetoed the 1995 budget.
Bill Clinton caused the 1995 budget shutdown.
It was Clinton's veto that shut down the government.
The Democrats are trying to use the military just like they use teachers and nurses and librarians and doctors and so forth, the cops at the local level.
Oh, cut the budget.
Okay, we'll have to let the cops go.
And we'll have to let the firemen off.
No, no, no.
This is the this is the trick.
And now the federal level, Democrats use the military, the National Guard in their budget negotiations.
When are the Democrats ever cared about whether the military gets paid or not?
So, Sarah, your complaint would best be answered by President Obama or Harry Reed or Nancy Pelosi.
They didn't pass a budget.
That's how we got here.
The reason we are here.
Listen to me.
Look at me.
Don't doubt me.
The reason we are talking about all of this gobbledygook in the first place is because the Democrats did not pass a budget.
But there are other reasons.
Jobs were not created.
Tax revenue has dried up.
They did not cut spending.
The budget is not balanced.
The only group of people in this country who are in fat city Right now happen to be public sector unions, federal and state.
They are the chosen people.
If the Democrats had passed a budget, if they had presented a budget, if Obama had had an economic plan to create jobs, we wouldn't be here.
None of this would be on the table.
We wouldn't be talking any of this.
The only reason we are here is because of the irresponsibility of the Democrat Party.
I know what you're saying.
Some of you say, Rush, I know you're right, but you're just driving people away.
You can't just keep blaming everything generically on the Democrat Party.
Sorry, if a shoe fits, then wear it.
We are exactly where we are because of the Democrat Party.
And they want the shutdown.
That's the next item.
Sarah, still out there?
They want the shutdown.
They are happy to hear you call this program and complain.
Because they think that you're going to end up blaming the Republicans.
That's what happened in 1994.
They are convinced it's going to happen again.
That's what Obama wants.
That impromptu press conference he had yesterday.
What ineptitude.
That alone is evidence that they want the shut.
And today he leaves.
Supposedly everybody were getting down to the wire.
Negotiations are continuing at a breathtaking pace.
And what does he do?
He flies off to break bread with Al Sharpton, the National Action Network in New York.
You notice how much this outcry from the Democrats about Paul Ryan's budget plan came out yesterday.
The CBO has even published an attack on it.
I've got I've got the um.
Yeah, here's CBO, big health cost shift to elderly in GOP plan.
The CBO has published an attack on Paul Ryan's budget.
Ryan's budget is 73, very densely written pages long.
At two o'clock yesterday afternoon, he presents it.
So how could any of these people have had the time to read it and do the in-depth analysis that they are supposedly known for at the Congressional Budget Office?
CBO published their analysis less than four hours after Ryan presented his budget, and they rip it to shreds, particularly on the notion that the elderly are hardest hit and could die.
If anybody thinks the CBO is a bunch of nonpartisan people, you've got another thing coming.
And we'll be back after this.
Sarah, I'm still thinking about your call.
Oh.
She says she doesn't care.
Sarah, the Democrat Party sought the defeat of the U.S. military at Iraq.
Harry Reed, this war is lost.
This war is lost.
They were out there doing everything they could.
They believed made up stories in Time magazine about the Marines being mass rapists in Hadith.
The U.S. military was constantly ripped and impugned by the Democrat Party in this country.
They don't care whether you get paid or not.
They care about whether or not you'll blame the Republicans.
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