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Feb. 14, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 14, 2011, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Okay, the big news of the day.
Obama has submitted a budget.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yeah.
That's the news.
Well, I mean, that's that's the news right now.
That's what everybody's bouncing off of.
That's the narrative, right?
Obama's budget.
Yeah, what it all means.
I just I just want to talk about it, but I I just want to remind you back in 2009, Obama promised to cut the budget deficit in half at the end of his first term.
He promised that in 2009.
He promised it again yesterday.
Or today, or or or what have you.
You know that the the real crime.
Well, the the real truth here about this budget and all the is it's the size of the deficit is not really the problem, although it's huge.
The size of the budget, 3.7 trillion dollars for crying out loud, this kind of spending is just unsustainable, and everybody knows it.
And it has not accomplished anything that the regime said it would accomplish, and yet here we are doubling down on it.
Anyway, folks, it's great to be back.
Hope you had a great weekend.
We're here for broadcast excellence as only I can do it.
That's why the network is named the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
They came to me shortly after the program starts.
What network are you on?
Well, we're not on a network.
Well, yours you are.
I mean, you have a network of stations.
So I had to come up with a name for the uh for the network.
And I figure, why not just call it what it is?
You know, excellence and broadcasting.
So here we are.
The uh telephone number is 800-282-2882, the email address, L Rushball at EIB net.com.
We got some funny soundbites coming up.
CNN sent their reporters roving through the mob in Egypt.
The mob Obama supposedly influenced, the mob that Obama got out in front of, the crowd that Obama made his very own, and this reporter goes out there and tries and tries and tries to get members of the mob to praise Obama, and he can't find any that do.
And yet, in his summation, he claims, as you just heard, these protesters are happy with well, you'll you'll just sit you'll just have to hear it.
I don't want to try to paraphrase it.
Let's um let's start, however, uh ladies and gentlemen with CPAC.
Today is a day that I might just drum myself out of a movement.
Well, it it could happen.
Let me take a whack at um at I think what happened this weekend at CPAC.
And there's there's all kinds of articles about it, too.
I mean, the people uh in the drive-by media reviewing what happened, people in conservative media reviewing what happened.
As I look, there's some exceptions to this, of course.
I'm just talking about the overall impression.
Uh it seems that the ruling class hasn't learned a whole lot since the election.
It's somewhat troubling to me.
Now, CPAC, there's a lot of great people show up.
Don't misunderstand thousands of independent activists, a lot of young people, but it's it's it's still run by a bunch of old hands and uh ruling class types.
I mean, look, I I know this is gonna get me in trouble.
Any conservative conclave, any conservative weekend, big, big major conservative weekend, which concludes with a straw poll of Ron Paul.
I mean, you have to just nothing against Ron Paul, but come on, folks, let's get real here.
I mean, there's a no, it's not the Kooks have taken over, it's the Kooks Freak.
It's not Kooks, it's just that you know Paul busses in a bunch of his supporters here.
They have not taken over anything.
It's just that, and don't think that the media doesn't love reporting that that of all the candidates, the CPAC, straw poll revealed Ron Paul as the most favored presidential candidate.
Now, let's be serious here.
Ron Paul, his son, they're fine, fine people, but Ron Paul is not going to be the Republican presidential nominee.
This isn't gonna happen.
So you had a you know, weird list of uh priorities and focus.
I mean, we had it all.
We had we had GOP proud, we had the the gay conservatives, we had demands to legalize drugs.
Marijuana at CPEC.
Most conservatives strongly oppose gay marriage and legalized pot.
Then we had uh, you know, would-be candidates promoted by the Washington ruling class.
We had some candidates jumping on talk radio.
We need to move Miss Mitch Daniels, we need to move beyond the audiences of Rush and Sean and so forth and the C-SPAN viewers to get we need to move beyond that.
Uh there was this constant drumbeat that came from a lot of people from Jeb Bush or Mitch Daniels and not a lot of people.
So we've got to do something about these social conservatives.
We've got to dump this.
We we've got to, and I just have a question.
Does the left ever dump any of its factions?
Does the left ever hold a convention and say, you know what, we got to get rid of the Huffington Post people?
We got to de-emphasize the daily cause.
We we have to do they ever do anything like that?
Does the left ever do anything it does to appeal to its enemies?
To try to be loved and associated by its uh by its by its enemies.
But there is a, if you look at last year, you go into the campaign and the election last year, that the it was an unmistakable conservative ascendancy happening in this country.
Even independents were flocking in the direction of conservatism.
Now they had to vote Republican.
They didn't want to vote for Democrats in November, but the move was clearly to conservatism, not the Republican Party.
But at CPAC, uh you didn't get the impression here that there was a conservative ascendancy going on.
You had a lot of people saying, we got to do something about that faction of conservatism, we've got to do something about that faction of conservatism, we got to move beyond this faction of conservatives.
I think the ruling class has circled the wagons.
They use CPAC to do it.
Social conservatives were dissed again at CPEC, and the ruling class cheering every speech made, every comment made that dissed the social conservatives.
And I really I thought with with with what had happened last fall.
I mean, Cheney got heckled.
Called a war criminal.
And a draft dodger at CPAC.
Sorry, that's not that's not the CPAC that I've always thought of or known.
Kind of like Dick Cheney gets heckled and called a war criminal.
What was missing, I thought from the CPAC convention, just as a theme, is what has been occurring the last few years.
This this ascendancy of traditional conservatism, the ascendancy of Reagan conservatism.
There's there's no doubt it is happening all across the fruited plane.
You didn't get, at least I didn't get any sense of it.
Watching CPAC, and don't misunderstand, nobody's looking here, certainly not I, some magical appearance of a Ronald Reagan.
Just looking for a conservative that actually embraces conservative, not parts of it, not tries to redefine it.
I mean, I'm there they're clearly there's some some people from the era of Reagan is overcrowded.
Did you ever hear Reagan start?
Well, we get the social conservatives here, we got to make sure, yeah, we'll listen to it, but then we're not gonna pay much attention to them.
But there wasn't this this kind of division within the ranks.
What is a conservative candidate?
A candidate who supports the Constitution, who supports national security, who supports traditional family boundaries, and basic stuff.
And that stuff seemed controversial.
For parts of CPAC.
What when a when a would-be candidate says, put aside the social issues, so what does this mean?
Is the left putting aside the social issues?
I mean, the left right now, they are in federal court demanding that judges impose an agenda on the nation that was voted down at the ballot box.
What do we do in response to that?
Ignore it.
We have a health care bill here that's unconstitutional.
Could have been a huge rallying point.
Instead, we got the latest ruling class drumbeat that we put aside the social issues of the more important things on the um agenda than the than the social issues right now.
I've shared with you, I don't know how many times the story, and I first became personally aware of this in the early 90s at a fashionable dinner party in the Hamptons with moneyed Republicans, and they came up to you, what are you gonna do about the Christians?
Meaning the pro-lifers embarrassing these.
Nothing's changed.
We somehow we need to put aside the social issues.
We can't let those people have prominent position in our party, our movement.
We just can't have those people be a face of what we're doing.
It's just gonna be a problem.
And they use CPAC as the means of that.
Look at what had the borders.
Our borders remain wide open.
The level of crime and drug importation sky high for our citizens who live on the border.
Illegal immigration affects communities all across the country, including their schools, their health care, law enforcement budgets, and we're told to accept it or ignore it, otherwise we're racist.
That seems to be the position of some people who spoke at CPAC.
Look at if you're if you're worried about immigration, stop it.
We don't want to be seen as racist.
Stop talking.
Stop talking about abortion, stop talking about the social issues, stop talking about all this.
That's only gonna hurt.
We don't want to deal with that in our party.
This is what the ruling class guys were saying at CPAC.
Now, my focus, my focus, I have people constantly, you would not, well, you would believe it.
I have people constantly begging me to say on this program their own words, what they can't say because they don't have a microphone about their pet issue.
Rush, you've got to say this about X. And I always write them back and I say, No, you're missing the point.
I'm not in the business you think I am.
I have always said my focus is my audience.
You not all the other groups of people that affect you, but you.
You are what's key, and that seems to me to apply to politics today.
The voters are the key.
The people that make things happen in this country are the key, but they're being ignored.
You and all that you stood, the Tea Party, I know you don't have a formal candidate yet from the Tea Party, but the Tea Party was under assault in its in its own way at at CPAC.
And you and the Tea Party understand full well the ruling class is not happy with you, and it was clearly obvious.
Same principle applies to politics.
Dance for the people at Brungia.
But this doesn't seem to be what's going on in the Republican Party.
The people that brung us embarrass us.
Some of the people at Brungus embarrass us, seems to be the message.
We got to de-emphasize this.
We got to stop talking about uh the borders of immigration.
That's racist.
We've got to stop talking about social issues, that's abortion, wives don't like it, and uh, we don't gonna get impact at home, whatever it is.
You know, it has been forgotten, I think, that um, and the reason I keep bringing Reagan, Reagan made CPAC, when he when Reagan attended CPAC, we pretty much put it on the map.
Reagan fought the establishment.
He went to CPAC before 1980 to fight the establishment.
Back then CPAC and the Republican Party were two different things.
He went to CPAC to ask them to join him in changing the Republican Party.
That's why Reagan went to CPAC.
He went there to advance a conservative cause.
He wanted remember now that the establishment had tried to throw him to the curb in 1976.
The establishment really wasn't that enthralled with Reagan.
He he did not then say, okay, well, how can I make the Republican Party like me?
How can I make the ruling class Republicans like me?
He didn't care about it.
He went to the he went to CPAC and said, we gotta take over the Republican Party.
We need to reform it.
We need to make it a conservative party.
He wanted it to be one of the vanguards in advancing the conservative cause.
He reached out to all traditionally conservative people, including people of faith.
He reached out to all of them.
He didn't ask them to put aside their principles.
He didn't ask them to shut up.
He asked everyone, if they were conservative, embrace him.
Said they had a candidate in him who would promote them.
He wanted to win.
He wanted to win by running as a conservative, not some hyphenated conservative, and not a special interest conservative.
He understood that if the culture crumbles, the society crumbles.
And that includes fiscal and national security issues.
So he set out a strong, and this is relevant, 100th birthday weekend recently, set out a strong, simple agenda of across the board tax cuts and spending cuts, rejected the limitations.
The ruling class and the GOP establishment tried to place on him.
He insisted the military needed to be built up, the communists were our enemies, the Islamists of today.
You don't need to agree with all the things that he said or all the things he did as president, but you knew he was faithful to the Constitution's principles.
He can be trusted to do what was right or at least try to.
Now, when you have candidates or would-be candidates telling conservatives to park their principals at the door, to check their principals at the door when they come in, who are not fully understood on a host of issues, then they're not going to be trusted by voters at large.
To the extent that people who voted in November paid attention to CPAC and told that this is a conservative political action conference, I wonder how much conservatism they actually saw as measured against what they were expecting, if they watched it.
When you have a candidate promoted by the Republican establishment, who didn't write off conservative voices in the radio, but says, we're going to move beyond that.
Now, nobody, nobody would disagree that for a movement to grow, you need people from all over the place to join the movement.
So I don't, I didn't take personally Mitch Daniels saying we get we need to move beyond the audiences of people and talk radio, but that's clear, you know, it's it's in fact smart, but in the process of doing so, you don't diss the people who are already audiences of those shows.
You don't say that they're irrelevant or unnecessary.
Who won elections for your party year after year after year?
Uh, and all this, of course, done to imprese uh impress the mainstream media.
You know, then the problem with CPAC, frankly, is that rather than promote traditional conservative principles, maybe even with new strategies, it's fine and dandy.
Rather than do that, the principles are now up for grabs.
The definition of a conservative is up for grabs.
And people who've had very little to do with election results since last November are now lecturing everybody on how to move forward.
And that's what CPAC was, and it just kind of didn't compute.
Now they tell us.
Now they're looking at a headline here on Fox.
Now they tell us unrest spreading across the Middle East.
How can that be?
I thought the Middle East was solved.
I thought we had an uprising, a Democrat uprising.
He got rid of that evil guy Mubarak.
Uh and uh Obama went out there, did everything he could to uh make all this happen.
Uh unrest spreading throughout the Middle East.
How in the world can that be?
Is it ever wonder, folks?
Do you ever wonder how the opposite of what we're always told happens?
I've got a whole stack of stories in this Egypt business in the Middle East as well as the budget.
This is uh the Muslim Brotherhoods have an English website.
And here's their headline.
Senior Muslim Brotherhood leaders, Egypt's uprising, a prelude to a radical change in the Arab world.
Really, are you surprised?
Can't say that I am.
From uh what is this New York Times, Iranian leaders vow to crush March.
And if you read This New York Times story in the middle of this piece, it seems the New York Times agrees with the Iranian regime.
The mullahs, the Ahmedini Zads.
Uh, need to crush this uprising.
Says that Iran is unlike Egypt and the rest of the Middle East.
It's already had its revolution.
So this would be a counter-revolution.
Iran had its revolution in 1979.
This uprising is not good.
So whatever's necessary to suppress this Democrat uprising in Iran, that's that's uh the mullahs need to go right ahead and do it.
Conflicting, conflicting all over the place.
Nicholas Christoph, New York Times a couple days ago, what Egypt can teach America.
What Egypt can teach.
This is an incredible piece.
I, of course, during the focus of the program at Abel quote various elements of this, show you what I mean.
Just incredible.
And then another piece here from another blogger, uh, Egypt is an opportunity for us.
The job of sorting this out gets harder and harder.
And we are back, El Rushbo talent on loan from God.
Okay, Friday afternoon, CNN's newsroom live in Cairo.
After Hasni Mubarak stepped down from power, the uh senior international correspondent Nick Robertson and a man identified as Ahmed have this exchange about the Egyptian anti-government protests and Pharaoh Obama.
Ahmed, you've been here down on the square for many days.
United States and international community have just listened to President Obama say that America will support Egypt if it wants help and assistance and hopes that there'll be a good transition for jobs for the young people.
What would your message be for President Obama?
We don't know actually who he supported.
Owen Burton and the transition people seeks for our vegetables and democracy.
Any uh country for the people, not today, Owen Burkman.
You gotta love old Ahmed here.
Here's Nick Roberts.
Now, where is Nick Robertson?
Nick Robertson's in the middle of all this.
He's out there at Tariri Squirrel, which is a uh Tariri's square with a circle.
And he's in the middle of this, and these people are feeling euphoric.
They think that what they've done is gotten rid of Mubarak.
What they've done is permitted a military coup, and the military, the guy running Egypt now is Mubarak's best buddy, the guy who runs the military.
They have torn up the constitution.
Not that that matters much, but they still tore it up.
They have uh they have established themselves as overall rulers, and have said it's going to be this way for at least six months.
People are still gathered in the square there.
Now, I don't know what people thought was going to happen.
I don't know what people's expectations were, but the military is running the show.
Led by one of Mubarak's closest, really closest personal friends.
There's no call for elections, none of this stuff that this all was supposedly about.
And yet, all that by Friday still hadn't settled in.
They're still feeling euphoric.
So here's a CNN reporter in the midst of all of this.
And he's found this guy Ahmed and his purpose.
Now stop and think of this.
The CNN reporter's purpose is to find somebody in the midst of the Egyptian uprising that will sing the praises of Barack Obama.
I guarantee you the last thing on this guy's mind, Ahmed's, is Barack Obama.
Rightly so, this guy he thinks that his country's now going to be free.
He thinks he might have a chance to make more than two bucks a day.
He thinks that maybe he might have a chance at some freedom.
That's what he thinks.
And here comes this CNN reports, American reporter with a British accent, asking what this guy thinks of Obama.
These reporters think that everybody in the world looks at every event through the prism of Obama.
This is this is hilarious.
What would your message be for President Obama?
The guy's not even thinking about Barack Obama.
Of course, what he was supposed to say was we love Obama.
Obama has made it possible for us to be free here in Egypt.
Pharaoh Obama, long live the Pharaoh.
We can't wait for Obama to come here and supervise our elections.
Barack Obama has made it, but Obama told Mubarak it to go, and the Mubarak is a gun, and Mubarak is it to shake off Sharf because you know, whatever he's doing, and we are free.
That's what this guy wants.
Instead, Ahmed says, we do not know who Obama supports.
He serves his own purposes.
The Egyptian people search for our freedom and democracy.
Any democratic country should see for the people.
So this guy's telling the reporter what for?
This is great.
Old Ahmed is saying essentially, what the hell are you asking me?
Obama's in this for himself.
He's not over here.
This is about us.
But Nick Robertson, undeterred, found another president, a peasant to try to praise President Obama.
And once again, he doesn't find what he's looking for.
Mustafa's joining me now.
We just had President Obama say that he wants to extend superfluous response to Egypt and Egyptians in one city hopes that there are more jobs for the young people in the future.
What your message for President Obama.
Well, my message for President Obama is just we started this revolution without any outside help.
And we are going to finish it also without any outside help.
Okay, so Nick Robertson's offer two here, gang.
He starts out with Ahmed.
Achmed tells him to pound sand, so Nick Robertson traipses over, finds Mustafa.
Hey Mustafa, hey old buddy O'Pal.
Nick Robertson, CNN here.
What is your message for President Obama?
Obama gave a speech.
He wants to extend support and assistance to Egypt.
He hopes that there are more jobs for young people.
What is your message for Obama?
This is incredible.
As the Obama's in the Oval Office, Nick Robertson's out there trying to get kudos for Obama, and poor old Mustafa does it.
He says, Well, my message to President Obama, we started the disrevolution without any outside help, and we're going to finish it also.
So poor old Nick Robertson, state control media 042.
I love this, by the way.
Don't misunderstand.
What is CNN care about the Egyptian people?
They got a job to do.
They got to get Obama re-elected.
That's what they're out there trying to do.
What I'm gonna get in trouble for making fun of the way Egyptians.
I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to make fun of anybody here.
I'm trying to distinguish their voice from from Nick Robertson's.
Oh cry.
If I if I get in trouble for this, the people are wound too tight.
Anyway, Nick Robertson still has Mustafa not giving up here.
He follows up and he gets more honest analysis from Mustafa than you get from the pundits that CNN pays to sit in their studio.
So Nick Robertson, after hearing, my message to Obama, we started this revolution without any outside help and we are going to finish it without any.
Nick Robertson persists.
Are you pleased that President Obama has come out, however, now and said he supports this change and supports the people and supports the young people and what they've done?
Well, actually, a lot of views were kind of conflicting during the last three.
But now he's saying that he's supporting the change.
I mean, this is priceless stuff.
This is a Nick Robertson.
First Ahmed.
Ahmed, what do you have to say to Obama?
Diddly squat.
What's Obama got to do with this?
Okay, I'll move on.
Finds Mustafa.
What's your message to Obama?
Well, we started this without him.
We're gonna finish it without him.
Robertson persists.
Well, are you pleased that Obama?
This is I wish I could think of an analogy on the fly here.
This people think that they have just won a life of freedom after all these years of poverty and oppression, and they got a reporter asking them about Obama.
So Nick Roberts says, Are you pleased?
Are you pleased?
At least Obama's come out.
He supports this change.
And what you've done, are you pleased with that?
The view from here is one of very happy to now to hear that President Obama has swung behind the people.
That's Nick Robertson.
Finally said, after all of this, after all that you just heard, he says the s the the view from here is one of very happy to now hear that Obama has swung behind the people.
Not one of the people he talked to had anything positive to say about Obama.
Ahmed Mustafa twice.
It comes time for the wrap-up.
Here is audio soundbite number 16.
Comes time for the wrap-up again, and here's Nick Robertson.
You've just heard Ahmed and Mustafa twice basically say he's irrelevant.
Why are you asking us about Obama?
Here's the wrap-up.
The view from here is one.
I'm very happy to now to hear that President Obama has swung behind the people.
Oh, Nick Robertson, CNN.
Is there any doubt what their purpose is?
Get Obama re-elected.
I mean, try to think back.
Something like this happens or happened in the American Revolution.
You know, and George Washington has just finished proclaiming victory.
Some reporter comes up and asks him, well, what do you think?
What do you think about what Attila the Hun said about this?
Or pick pick somebody that's equally irrelevant.
What do you think the Barbary Coast Pirates are happy here to see that uh your revolution is succeeding?
You know, they're they played a big role in this.
They really uh really behind you.
So we're not through.
Then you notice this Google executive, this is the this Egyptian Google guy is said to be one of the leaders of the protest.
So Harry Smith on CBS Slay the Nation was talking to the Egyptian Google engineer Wahil Gonim.
And they had this exchange about the anti-government protests and Obama.
So CNN and now CBS asking all these people in nature.
What about Obama?
What aren't you happy?
Don't you really love what Obama did?
Obama did it, right?
Obama made it possible.
Obama caused the revolution.
Obama inspired you.
Obama got your freedom.
Obama's gonna get your job.
Isn't that right?
President Obama came out several times during the revolution and had things to say.
Did it help?
We don't really need him.
And I don't think the I wrote a tweet.
I wrote, Dear Western governments, you have been supporting the regime that was oppressing us for 30 years.
Please don't get involved now.
We don't need you.
Just I mean, that's and that's Google folks.
That that is a Google exec.
That's not Mustafa or Ahmed.
That is an Egyptian Google executive.
We don't really need Obama.
I don't really need Obama.
I didn't, he was all over the board here before this thing all happened.
It was clear that Obama said everything possible so that when it was all over, he could go back, see what I said.
So he could position himself as in the proper position of having forecast predicted or even caused all of this to happen.
Back right after this, folks.
All of this notwithstanding, ladies and gentlemen, President Obama hot footed it into the recording studio over the weekend in a song that almost made the rotation at the Grammys last night, but didn't quite make the cut.
When I talked to the Egyptians, people of Egypt, I, Barack Obama, have brought you out of the wilderness.
No, wait, wait, that's the wrong story.
Rush Limbaugh serving humanity.
To the phones we go.
We're going to start in Port Huron, Michigan.
Jackie, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Oh, hello, Rush.
It's incredible.
It's such an incredible honor to speak to you.
I really can't believe it.
I'm gonna pinch myself, but Rush, um, I heard you speaking.
I listened to you every day, and I heard you speaking about Rich McConnell's uh speech.
My husband and I, what he's retired, OBGYN doctor, and I'm a retired RN.
But we listened to Mitch McConnell's speech, and we were we were really impressed.
We thought, here's the man who seemed to cover all the bases and do it well and do it conservatively and be a constitutionalist.
And then I hear you um say something different, and it kind of blew my mind.
I was wondering if you could explain why you don't want to be.
I thought one thing he did say That uh I was very happy to hear him say was that the Obama legislative agenda is over.
I mean, for the for the remaining two years, Obama's legislative agenda is finished.
He's had it.
Yeah.
There's there's there's uh there's uh almost lame duck status here for the uh for the uh remaining two years of Obama's agenda.
Yes, I was glad to hear that too.
And and his ideas, um I thought putting forth oh gosh, uh my mind goes blame periodically, but wait a minute, wait a minute.
You mean do you mean Mitch Daniel by any chance?
Yes.
Did I say something?
You said Mitch McConnell.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm still nervous.
Oh, you mean Mitch Daniel?
His CPAC speech.
I'm sorry, right.
Oh, I'm sorry, Brad.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
But we're on the right track.
I'm on the same track now.
Um I just thought with a such a good speech.
He was very he he was proud of his country, he's enthusiastic.
He has all sorts of ideas to to bring, encourage freedom in free markets and and uh increase trade and a lot of good things to say.
He had a lot of the debt uh as being the the uh the red menace.
Um you know he's a he was OMB's a budget guy, he was uh budget guy with Reagan uh and so forth.
Uh-huh.
No, I didn't I didn't have I didn't have any qualm with the substance of that remark that he made whatsoever.
What uh now he did say that we need to uh we need to move beyond the audiences of Rush and Sean and Th there's a there's a context here, Jackie, that I think maybe I assumed people understand or no, not understand, but no, and maybe you don't.
And I don't even know that it's worth my time to get into it here because it's it it's gonna be interpreted as being petty, but I I just you you you have to um fr from my perspective, the the j the Republican Party establishment group is really not thrilled with talk radio.
They're not thrilled with the Tea Party.
They don't like it.
They they're trying to find ways around it.
Um so these allusions to, yeah, what we got's fine, but we're not gonna win with what we got.
We need to get even bigger.
That means we need to reach out to traditional non-conservatives.
It's the same old message.
We can't win just being conservative.
We're gonna have to go out and have a message for people who aren't conservative that says, yes, uh, we're supporting you too.
Rather than try to build upon this conservative ascendancy, which because of Obama is building on its own, we're not having to really teach it.
We're just having to uh be true to it.
Yeah.
There's still some people very embarrassed or troubled by conservative ideology.
And that's that's I just I don't think that's necessary.
I I don't think that we have to win by watering our that we can only win by watering ourselves down and diluting ourselves.
I didn't take it personally.
I don't just none of this stuff I take personally.
This is it's uh it's this under it's I guess it's overriding notion that conservatism is not enough to win.
That bothers me because clearly it is.
Yeah, I mean Mitch Daniel might have been saying we need to appeal to just more than political junkies.
No question about that.
But I'm just you know, the more we differentiate ourselves from Democrats and Liberals, the better we will do.
We don't w uh I just think that's abundantly clear here.
And it's an opportunity waiting to be had.
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