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Sept. 20, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 20, 2010, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 247 Podcast.
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Well, the witchcraft comment, everybody jumping in on this.
And the context of this was she was asking talking about Halloween and so forth.
And she said, what it just is amazing.
We know more about Christine O'Donnell right now than we know about Obama.
We know more about her than we know about Barack Hussein, and it isn't gonna work.
This kind of stuff is not gonna work.
People are attuned to this to this now.
Uh what have the Democrats dabbled in?
Let's see, Democrat leader Harry Reid collected a 1.1 million dollar windfall on a Los Vegas land sale, even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show.
Nancy Pelosi's dabbled in ripping off taxpayers by using military aircraft for personal needs.
Obama has dabbled in infanticide.
Joe Biden has dabbled in plagiarism.
Obama's good friend Bill Ayers has dabbled in domestic terrorism.
Valerie Jarrett, Obama's best female friend, has dabbled in communism.
I mean, what this is uh Obama's dabbled in cocaine for crying out loud.
He even wrote about it in one of his books.
He dabbled in cocaine out there.
I remember how wonderful it was back in the good old days, folks, to have um a mom in tennis shoes.
Remember old Patty Murray, remember how wonderful the year of the woman.
How wonderful it was to have a mom in tennis shoes running for the U.S. Senate, Patty Murray.
Whatever happened to that attitude from the media when you have people like Christine O'Donnell.
Patty Murray's only background was being an environmentalist wacko.
Which is crazier than dabbling in witchcraft in high school.
People that believe a hoax and spread a hoax and cost people money.
Can we talk about the Democrat Party and the lives they've destroyed with their policies?
How about dabbling in Marxism?
Her opponent in Delaware.
How about dabbling in economic destruction?
Barack Obama.
And how in the world you worried about witchcraft.
Listen to this.
This Obama, this is last Wednesday at the Oh, forget the we'll get to this.
This is the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Annual Institute Awards.
On Friday, when over the weekend, maybe Saturday, Obama goes to the Congressional Black Caucus.
And uh is it, hey, you need to get them up out there.
You need to get you need to revive them out there.
You need to get black uh constituents, you need to get them uh all fired up.
This guy's dabbled in Saul Olinskiism.
But listen to this.
This is this is this is Obama.
Uh last Wednesday, Congressional Hispanic Caucus, annual awards, Gala.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
All men are created.
Endowed with certain inalienable rights.
Life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Now, there's something very, very crucial and very important missing in that, and that is endowed by our creator.
Now, Obama was using a teleprompter here.
It's interesting.
On Wednesday, he leaves the creator as the source of our rights out of his quote of the Declaration of Independence yesterday, heads over to church.
Eight o'clock in the morning takes the Hoof Express, so the media can chronicle every step of the way.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
All men are created equal, endowed with certain by whom?
Government?
Who endows this equality?
Who endows us with the rights of life, liberty, pursuit?
This is not an insignificant thing.
And the reason it's not insignificant is because all of these questions about who oh who is Obama?
You know, Who who really shaped him?
Where are his values sourced to?
Who is educated and informed this man?
This is this is not a miscue.
You know, it's it's it's things like this that lead people to question his faith.
You know, we sit here, we jokingly call him Imam Obama, but he doesn't mention the creator.
He could have said Allah if he means it.
He could have said, we hold these truths to be self-evident.
All men are created by Allah, endowed by Allah with certain inalienable.
He didn't mention anybody.
Maybe he's talking about himself.
Gods usually mention themselves when talking about themselves.
But he didn't.
This is not insignificant as I say.
This is what people are very curious about things like this.
Now, I doubt this is going to get much attention.
It hasn't gotten much attention in national media, has it, Snerdley?
Scant zero attention, correct?
Yeah, and that you didn't even notice it.
Uh and this was, of course, was at an approved uh Democrat Party function, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute's annual awards gala.
But it's it's things like this.
Uh and look at it, it was on the teleprompter.
So it was either on the prompter and he skipped over it, or somebody didn't put it on the prompter, and he doesn't know enough to add it himself.
And it could well be there's another, he could just be tweaking us.
You know how I tweak the media.
Who he could be tweaking all of us.
He could be sitting there.
Well, to what end?
Uh to what ends tweak because it makes him look like an idiot?
I don't know.
He doesn't snurtly uh is a narcissist.
Narcissists never ever think of themselves as idiots.
They're they are inable, unable to comprehend that.
They don't even think of it as looking like idiots.
They're not they're not capable of it.
Now here's from his book, Audacity to Hope.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
And all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, among them life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
Those simple words are our starting point as Americans.
They describe not only the foundation of our government, but the substance of our common creed.
This is Obama.
I'm quoting from his book.
Not every American may be able to recite them.
Few, if asked, could trace the genesis of the Declaration of Independence to its roots in 18th century liberal and Republican thought.
But the essential idea behind the declaration, that we are born into this world free, all of us.
That each of us arrives with a bundle of rights that can't be taken away by any person or state without just cause that through their own agency we can and must make our lives what we will is one of the every American understands.
It orients us, sets our course each and every day.
And he says, not every American might be able to recite them.
So in his own book, he acknowledges the creator in this little thing he doesn't, which is one of the things that leads me to believe it might be a tweak.
Hoping that people will focus on it, and they're just getting a private laugh about it in the White House.
This could be the kind of thing that fibs and these guys would sit, hey, you know, let's have him leave creator out of that.
And then let's listen to the value voters go nuts at their weekend convention.
And just for their own amusement.
I mean, look, we sit here, we tweak the media each and every day for our own amusement, but we also do it to inform, educate, uh, eradicate and implicate, as well as have a good time.
But he even admits uh not every American might be able to recite this.
Uh the above quote was from Obama's discussion about values from his book, and how the Democrats ought not to run away from them.
But of course the Democrats do.
The Democrats don't want us any association whatsoever with uh with values.
So I come down on the side that this is a tweak.
Um well, Snerdly, I don't know, Snerdley, who wrote the book?
Who wrote Obama's book?
This is uh well, it has not been established affirmatively that Obama didn't write his books.
I know that that's uh there's something swirling around out there.
Uh a number of people have done studies, and it looks like Bill, but what's his face that the Pentagon bomber wrote them, but that shove that aside.
I um since he's written about this, and since he's in it he's articulated it on the page, on the printed page of his book.
I think it's just a tweak.
Or else somebody in the in the White House forgot to put it on there and he's not familiar enough with it to add it himself.
Or maybe, you know, it's the audience.
Maybe somebody, maybe it doesn't want to offend people in the history of the Hispanic clock, who knows.
I know the bottom line of all of this.
We're here we're we're trying to figure out why would the president of the United States omit the creator when quoting from the Declaration of Independence.
We're talking about the President of the United States.
We're not talking about a community organization.
Well, we are talking about community organizers, but he's he is the president of the United States.
We're talking about all of these uh things.
And and Obama cited it in his 2004 Democrat convention speech.
So this is this is not something that's uh that's common.
This was you know a one-time thing that they're probably I mean, sitting around, I bet you there is a pool inside the White House to see who goes nuts over this first.
And I'm trying to win the pool for them.
Great news, folks.
The recession has been over for a year.
That's right.
Uh the U.S. recession is started in December 2007, ended in June of 2009, uh, making it the longest slump since World War II.
This, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, which is a group out there that studies recessions.
Uh so what they haven't told us is when did the depression begin?
If the recession ended in June of 2009, what the hell are we in now?
So does somebody want to say it has improved since June of 2009?
What do these people think this election is going to be all about?
Really stunning.
And it the effort here to recast reality for the sake of the Democrats by the uh Democrat media complex, stunning to behold, even as wide open and visible as it is from the New York Times.
Yesterday, Tea Party victory opens rift between moderate and conservative Republicans.
Last time I looked, the real rift is in the Democrat Party.
You have 31 Democrats who are running, or 34 Democrats who won re-election in their primaries by running against Obamacare.
You have all of these Democrats in the House and Senate who don't want Obama anywhere near their campaigns.
You have a number of Democrats openly distancing themselves from the Speaker from Pelosi and from Reed.
The Democrat Party is expected to lose historic and historic number of seats in the House in the upcoming November election.
The Rasmussen poll numbers are breathtaking.
And 52% of voters say their views are more like Sarah Palin's than Obama's.
61% favor repeal of the health care law.
That is up eight points from a week ago.
And the highest level of opposition measured since last May...
And there is a letter to Pelosi and Stenny Hoyer, signed by 31 Democrats in the House of Representatives dated September 15th, begging Pelosi to extend the Bush tax cuts.
Now, if the recession's over and we're coming out of it in smooth sailing, why in the world is all of this going on?
Well, the bottom line, it isn't going on, and there is no sense of improvement.
And Obama's even going to church now.
The uh Obama's on television right now on CNBC with Wall Street people.
They couldn't get any Wall Street people to show up.
They had to stack the audience at this thing, and the New York Times Tea Party victory opens rift between moderate and conservative Republicans.
So here you have a template, and here you have a premise.
And of course, since it's in the New York Times, get ready.
This is going to be the focal point for all the cable chat shows today and tonight with the uh the never-ending roster of guests, uh, experts from the media to explain this divide.
Olympia Snow is quoted in the story.
We can't be a majority party if we can't appeal across the spectrum.
If we have an exclusionary approach in general, said Ms. Snow, who considers Mike Castle a personal friend and was crestfallen by his defeat.
Last time I looked, it's Castle who will not support O'Donnell.
Every time I've looked, we've uh when the conservatives have lost to the moderate Republicans, they've always admonished us we need to get in line here, party unity, yada yada yada.
For the most part, people do.
But now these uh these ruling class elites start talking about a 100% ideological purity test.
Olympia snow, I don't live in that utopian world.
It's not reflective of the real world.
I hope that's not the approach.
And Scott Brown the other day saying, Oh, there's no room for moderates in the Senate while he's surrounded by them.
It really's amazing if we step back and look at this.
The New York Times coming to the defense of Republican incumbents, defeated in primaries, like the brave and courageous Lisa Murkowski, who is now going to run a right-in campaign, and she's going to lose big time.
Just can't give it up, proving that what all this is about is personal power and access to it.
But I love the fact the New York Times coming to the defense of Republican incumbents who are losing in the primaries.
And uh one case at a convention in Utah.
We're talking here about seven or eight seats where the Republican nominee is a Reagan conservative.
Well, let's be honest, that's what we're talking about here.
When you strip it all away, what the party should be about.
Reagan conservatism and the Washington crowds going nuts, and the Washington crowd includes Republicans.
They still run the Senate, and they still will, even if we pick up these seven to eight seats.
They're still going to own the federal government.
But they're concerned about any effective opposition, whether it involves seven seats, eight seats, or five seats.
Look at the panic.
But they're still going to run the show.
And we're talking about the establishment here, the Washington establishment, the government establishment, the Republicans and Democrats establishment.
I mean, they may fight for power among themselves, but how dare we, the people, intervene in their games?
How dare we, the people, decide what they want and actually participate in record numbers in Republican primaries?
Who do we think we are?
People who many of us thought were the real deal.
They've been telling us that they're on our side, that they're conservatives.
That they really wanted huge reductions in government.
Now they're finally exposing themselves, and they don't like it when it's pointed out that they are exposing themselves.
I mean, they on the run.
Now, the fact of the matter is here that this election that's coming up here in November needs to be replicated for many, many elections to come.
And these the elite forces are not going to go away, folks.
I mean, this is this is first step.
They're not going to succumb.
They're not going to be slapped upside the head and say, oh, we get it now.
They're going to be continually fighting.
This is the elites holding a status, anxiety, whatever you want to call it, uh maintaining their uh uh admission at the table of power.
They are going to continue to smear, try to destroy any of the conservative opposition when the hard work of reducing government occurs.
Watch them then.
Watch them attack those who have the guts to actually try to rein in this massive bureaucracy and all these entitlements.
You watch what happens.
I mean, the the real bloodbath is going to be after the election when the people who win this, these Tea Party people then start making moves to actually implement what they believe.
They are going to be attacked by the usual crowd, the statists, but they're going to be undermined by more of these people, supposedly on our side, going to complain it could have been better, it should have been done differently.
We need a different tone.
We shouldn't have bitten off so much, should do it our way, slowly but surely, and so forth.
All the while the left is undermining the true conservative reformers and having Republicans join them in a whisper campaign of sorts.
Brief time out here, folks, much more to go after this.
Yeah, I guess it's okay for Lisa Murkowski to break the Buckley rule.
Buckley rule the most conservative candidate who can win.
Suppose support that person.
I guess it's okay for Lisa Murkowski to abandon the Buckley rule.
Now I gotta, folks, I must tell you something.
Last Wednesday, maybe it was Thursday, no, it was last Thursday on this program.
I had run across a quote from Mike Murphy, one of McCain's campaign managers and a uh a Republican consultant, campaign consultant.
I met him a couple of times in Washington, and he was all it was a website called Ricochet.
He was all out of sorts.
He said that all right, you uh you think you know how to do it in Delaware.
You think you know how to you palin.
And uh resting, go you, you, you go to Delaware, you show us how.
You you show us how those of us here in DC and so Georgetown Cocktail Party Circuit, well, we'll just sit here, we'll sit here, and they won't watch you.
And it was obvious that Murphy was taking this personally.
This woman O'Donnell can't win anything.
And this is this is crazy.
We're suicide pact nominating this woman.
And I made the point to all of you that these guys, these campaign consultants, like Murphy and to a certain extent, Carl Rove, they, while they may be conservative, and they may they may think they are, they work in a different world.
They work and live in the 15 to 20% undecided world.
They believe that the electorate is uh 40% solid Democrat, 40% solid Republican, and in the middle are these precious independents.
And they are hired on as experts to be able to get the independence in the general.
In the primary, you know, they'll they they know how to tell candidates to get the primary voters.
Here's how to win the primary, you go uh pedal the metal conservatism, whatever it takes.
But we get to the general, well, that's uh that that's that's when uh our experts uh rise to the top.
That's when we show ourselves.
We know how to go get those independents.
And there is no ideological uh loyalty in that quest because independents by definition are not ideological, correct?
And I've I uh I remember telling you this uh this non-famous, I've talked about it a lot, dinner party a couple Saturday nights ago in New York.
Well, suburban New York.
Well, I was on a roll.
I said, uh the fact that these elections, everybody focuses on the independents, the moderates bugs me to begin with, because these are people who have the guts to tell you what they think.
They're out there, their votes are being sold, and they want us to believe they're smarter than everybody else, that they're more open-minded, that they um they decided issues by issues by issue.
And I would rather go try to persuade these people by being pedal the metal conservative, because conservatism is nothing more than constitutionalism.
It's nothing more than the principles that built the country.
So no reason to be defensive about it.
But these guys all are.
And they make their money convincing candidates that they know how to get a majority in an undecided vote to vote for them.
Okay, so I spent a lot of time explaining this.
And a lot of people sent me emails saying, I'm glad you did that, because I was under the impression that a conservative is a conservative, that a conservative consultant is a conservative consultant.
And Russia, you explained to me that they're not.
They'll do whatever it takes.
If they have to tell an independent that their candidate believes uh, you know, in dabbling in cocaine in high school as a resume enhancement, they'll do it.
Or if they think they have to run around and and and condemn a high school kid for dabbling in witchcraft on Halloween as a disqualification, they'll do it.
Well, imagine my shock and my surprise.
I really was.
Thursday on the Fox News channel, on the O'Reilly factor, Charles Krauthammer said this about Christine O'Donnell.
Well, let's see it.
I'd like to see Dement, Palin now, go down to uh Delaware, spend a couple of weeks and elect her now.
You tell her that she is electable?
Okay, you got her elected as the nominee, get her elected as the Senator.
I hope I'm wrong on this.
I'd like to see Delaware have a Republican senator, and the Republicans have a majority in the Senate.
So I hope I'm wrong.
Now show me.
Well, it's almost word for word.
What Murphy said the day before, or earlier that day, maybe the night before.
And then Carl Rove got on the uh on the bandwagon.
Okay.
Well, Dement Palin, you know how to do it?
Go to Delaware and show us.
That's that's what Murphy said.
And I spent all this time on Thursday explaining it to them that that night, Charles Crowhammer says the same thing.
And I'm thinking, are these people, is there a memo going out among our guys now with talking points?
Or do they arrive at this independently?
This same sort of, okay, you show us.
What was the well Murphy never said I hope I'm wrong?
Murphy just said I'll sit and sit, you know, cocktails here in Georgetown.
He clearly knows it's out of joint that he's considered a cocktail invitee and wants to hold on to that.
But I uh I don't know quite how to express this.
I was just a little I was a little shocked.
Because you know, I'm used to talking points going on among the Democrat memo uh media.
I mean, they're always saying the same thing.
We do montages on it all the time.
So I'm wondering who stole from who here.
Did Crowhammer lift this from Murphy, or did Murphy lift it from Crowdhammer in a private conversation, or did somebody we don't even know say this at a mass cocktail party one night and they both ran?
I have I have no idea.
But it does indicate that.
Well, rather than getting on board here and and everybody lending their expertise to make this happen, I thought we wanted 51 seats.
It was it was fine and dandy to get 51 seats from um Castle being the nominee, but now that Christine O'Donnell is okay, you go get the 51st seat on your own.
You uh you guys show us how it's done.
We all thought that these people are on the same page with us.
Now I have to tell you, polling wise Christine O'Donnell right now, at this moment is closer to this Marxist and a beard guy, this Coons, than Scott Brown was to Martha Cochley at the same point in time in their campaign.
She is much closer, O'Donnell is, meaning that Brown had a lot more ground to make up than Christina O'Donnell does.
Now, what if we had observed the Buckley rule in the Scott Brown race?
So what's happening here is Tea Party, whatever you want to call it, the American people, the country class, are taking charge, and they really are beginning to reject all the intermediaries telling us how to think.
We don't need priests or mullas to tell us what the right thing to do is, who our candidates ought to be.
We're deciding this on our own.
We've all speak for many of you, I think you all thought you're on a team.
Right.
And you're finding out that well, the starters, so to speak, really don't want you in the game.
And when you the bench, the backups in their minds get in the game, they hope the other team wins.
Well.
Brief time out, El Rushbow.
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Okay.
Jim Dement.
Sarah Palin, go go you go to Delaware and show us how it's done.
I didn't that already happen.
Hasn't it already been shown how it's done?
How a conservative can beat a moderate or liberal anything?
Phase one.
But this this attitude, okay, okay.
When Spectre wins, we're supposed to get on board.
When and we did, when Chris Shays went, we're supposed to get on board.
Party unity.
We're supposed to get on board, and we did.
But when Didi Scazafuza loses, what happened?
She endorsed the Democrat in her race.
And jumpin' Jim Jeffords after being re-elected as a Republican became a Democrat and gave the Democrats control to the Senate.
Arlen Specter became a Democrat when it became obvious he was going to lose in the Republican primaries.
This is the kind of loyalty that moderate Republicans, the reasonable Republicans, the young.
Ruling class Republicans are famous for.
That's their idea of party unity, big tent.
Join the other guys.
Endorse the other guys.
Castle hasn't endorsed O'Donnell, has he?
We don't think he will.
What we are seeing here, uh, ladies and gentlemen, is just like with every other segment of the ruling elite, the Rhino Republicans will not give up power willingly.
They're gonna have to be forced out, kicking and screaming, hanging on to the drapes.
Which is something I think we've all known.
Certainly you do.
But I just I'm wonderful.
We're supposed to put it all aside.
McCain wins, and we're supposed to stay loyal.
Except for General Powell, General Powell.
General Powell can endorse Obama.
The ideal, I mean, the cookie cutter.
I mean, if you could if if you could get hold of DNA and make the ideal Republican, we're told it would be General Powell.
And he went and endorsed Obama.
And then Powell, oh yeah, I got all kinds of illegals working in my house.
I bet you do too.
Did you hear that?
He's got all kinds of illegals working, and it's glad.
And if if they I guess we can assume it if these illegals become legal, he'll hire the next wave of illegals.
This is our model, it's our role model.
We're supposed to support McCain, he doesn't have to.
He goes support Obama and then lecture us on the way we criticize Colin Powell is exactly why we have a Tea Party movement.
He's not the only reason, but he is a classic illustration of why there is a Tea Party movement.
Let me go to the phones.
We'll start in Jacksonville, Florida.
This is Rob.
You're up first today on the Rush Limbaugh program.
He is gone.
That helps.
Natalie in Winchester, Virginia.
Nice to have you and welcome.
Hi.
It's very good to talk to you.
Thank you very much.
Um I would just wanted to make a comment about the Christine O'Donnell uh, I guess what the Republicans are calling a snafu at this point.
But I think what she has proved is that we're all paying attention now.
It's just not, it's not one small group here, one small group there.
We're all paying attention, and no one is gonna get away with it anymore.
And we're done.
We're done with with the people that are part of the elite, the ruling class.
Yeah, but that are are not listening anymore.
They're they're already sort of in the system, and they're they're just not willing to listen.
And I think that they're they really had to kind of step back and go, what's happening here?
I thought we were the good guys.
But they're just so disillusioned with either their power or agenda.
No, whatever.
Another phone says.
No, you're I I I know what you're saying, and it sounds right, but they're not disillusioned at all.
They're not surprised.
They're mad.
They're not surprised.
No, they're not surprised.
They're mad.
They they're the they have been doing their they know what's coming here.
We can read the polls.
Now, it they might have been surprised that Castle lost.
I mean, that that might have that might have shocked them.
There might be an element of of uh it might have been lying to themselves.
But the the thing you have to understand is they're mad.
And they're not they're not just gonna just roll over and say, Oh, okay, I guess I guess so we've seen the light.
It isn't gonna happen.
Natalie, they're this is just the first of what I said moments ago is gonna have to be an election cycle repeated and repeated and repeated, and then after, if these people win and start proposing legislation to actually roll back some of this stuff, limit spending, you watch the opposition to it.
They're they're not they're they're they're not gonna oh, you know, even with Reagan, they just bided their time for eight years.
It's like I said last week, it's Washington versus the rest of the country.
And it's gonna go on for a while.
It's not just because they got an R behind the side of their name does not mean look at their backs up even now.
Well, Snerdley's asking me after uh after November, you don't think some of these opportunists are gonna see the light.
I think you're gonna make it look like they do.
They're gonna try to convince us they're seeing the light.
But the things that make them elitists are not gonna change.
They're gonna in fact they're gonna be filled with more resentment.
They're probably express it more privately.
Uh just like when the refr Republican freshmen came to town in 1994, they weren't welcomed.
Those guys are really conservatives.
But they they were they were not they were not all welcomed by now, certainly not by the media.
Remember when I told Koki Roberts?
You know, these guys, media did not want to be your friends now that you're the majority.
It's not that they want to be friends with the majority, it's not that they want to be uh close and have access to the people in the majority.
They don't like you being in the majority.
And do everything they can to get you back in the minority.
So for every let's say Christine O'Donnell comes to the Senate.
I'll tell you what's gonna happen.
They'll go to McConnell.
So what's it really like working with her here?
Uh and they'll go to um Olympia Snow.
Are you able to get and and uh well, you know, she's a little green behind there.
We're having to walk her through things.
You it's not gonna change.
There isn't gonna be I mean uh uh how best to put this.
Umcle Scrooge is not gonna all of a sudden, hey Pip, join the club here, pal, glad you're here.
Ain't gonna happen.
Uh the royal family never accepted Princess Diana.
They never really liked Princess Diana.
And she was worldwide universally more popular than they are, which is one of the reasons why.
I mean, elitists, narcissists, whatever.
They've they've uh they've worked hard to get into this club.
And they're not just gonna welcome you into it because you happen to have won an election.
They're gonna hate your guts because you have won an election.
You know, make it you're making them look bad to their Democrat buddies.
Their Democrat friends, you're embarrassing them.
You mean you really, Senator had to go to a caucus with Christine O'Donnell?
Oh God, how is I don't know if we want you in our next cocktail party, Lemon.
You've actually hung around with her.
That's not good.
CNBC has the story.
The tax collection agency in Great Britain, United Kingdom, has put forth a proposal that all employers send employee paychecks to the government first, after which the government would deduct what it deems is the appropriate tax and pay the employees by bank transfer.
I am not surprised.
We're not that far away from it here.
The attitude is all money is Washington's anyway, until they decide what we end up with.
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