We are begging the United Nations to tell us how to improve the human rights of our fellow citizens.
Specifically, I mean I read a report here, folks.
Specifically, we are asking for advice from the Human Rights Council members, Britain, Burkine Fazo, Gabon, Ghana, Pakistan, and Zambia.
That's who we're asking for help.
Advise us on human rights violations.
No, no, I'm I'm not making it up.
And I mean it's it's uh it's preposterous.
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Straight to the audio soundbites.
I, ladies and gentlemen, being blamed for the Hamask flap, as you can well imagine by those in the state controlled media.
We'll start with uh morning Joe on Mess NBC.
Wait a second.
Sorry, wrong soundbite.
We're gonna start last night, Monday night on Mess NBC's hardball with Chris Matthews.
Um he and Howard Feynman are blaming me for the uh the poll.
That shows um which poll is this?
That uh uh oh, the Obama Muslim poll.
They're blaming me for the fact that uh about 25, 20, 25% of the American people think Obama is a Muslim, and that fewer and fewer Americans believe that Obama is a Christian.
Rush Limba on this topic.
What is the only proof we have that Obama's a Christian?
Well, okay, his word, his word, but Jeremiah Wright is the only proof that we have that he's a Christian.
Obama described Wright as his spiritual mentor.
Well, we sorry, me do you.
We've heard Jeremiah Wright.
We know what Jeremiah Wright said.
We know what he thinks of America.
Does everybody know what's happening here?
He didn't answer the question.
Brush Limba has an IQ probably as high as anybody's around.
He's a smart guy.
He knows exactly what he's doing here.
He switched the topic from what a man says his religion is to how much do we hate Jeremiah Wright.
Well, that's not what I was doing.
I mean, these guys are outthinking me by half here.
Uh I was, you know, to put this back in context, I was trying to explain to these people why the poll was what it was.
Don't forget, it's not us that took the poll.
I'm I'm in the wake of this.
I hadn't I had nothing to do with the shaping of opinion on this poll.
I have the the only time I have referenced Obama being a Muslim is when I was quoting Qaddafi.
I've never put it out there myself at Obama's a Muslim.
I quoted Momamar Kadhafi for saying so.
Then I asked, how do we how do we know?
I'm trying to explain to these people in the media you want to know why the American people think this.
Let me help you.
What do we know about Obama being a Christian?
The only thing we know is that he has said so, but we don't see him going to church.
We don't hear him talk about it like other presidents have, but we do know that his pastor for 20 years was Jeremiah Wright.
And the American people have heard what Jeremiah Wright said.
And America's chickens come home to roost and uh and and all of that.
And we also have heard Obama say he never heard Wright say any of these things.
Well, that's sorry, uh, media.
We just don't believe that a parishioner does not hear the pastor for 20 years.
Sorry, that that we may be Rubes, but that doesn't compute with us.
I mean, those of us that go to church know what the pastor says.
And one of the reasons we go is to hear what the priest or what the pastor says.
This pew poll was taken back in July.
I never said anything about Obama being a Muslim until the last few days.
I here's another question.
If the Pew people want to do another poll, I got the question for you.
Who is it that hates the United States more?
Muslim clerics or Jeremiah Wright.
Well, I mean it's it's a you know, the I don't know should probably be pretty high in that in that poll.
So Howard Feynman chipped in with uh his thoughts on what Matthews had just said.
Everybody who watches this show knows Exactly what's going on because we're explaining it to them, and this has a deep history of fearing the other, of fearing the outsider.
Look, Barack Obama came in as a president representing something new.
This scares the heck out of these people, and they'll use any element of fear they can.
Sometimes I think Rush Limbaugh is amusing.
Sometimes I think he's useful in the conversation.
This is wrong.
I'm useful in the conversation sometimes.
Yeah, Obama came in as a president representing something new, but he didn't.
You told us he represented something new.
You told us he was something we'd never seen before in American politics.
You told us there was going to be post-partisanship, post-racial, post all this sort of thing.
We were we were told there's a great unifier, but none of its shaken out.
My question, Mr. Matthews and Mr. Feynman.
A question for you.
How can America be Islamophobic?
We elected Obama, didn't we?
If this is a nation that is Islamophobic, how do we elect a man whose name is Barack Hussein Obama?
Don't give me this Islamophobic business.
Remember, this poll was done back in July, long before.
I mean, I'm in the wake of this story.
Not often that I say this.
Normally I'm on the cutting edge.
But on this, you know, I'm I'm at the back of the boat.
Obama told us he was a committed Christian, a moderate.
And after he does this, he goes out and insults the bitter clingers, people who cling to their religion and their guns and so forth when times get uh get tough.
But I mean, we people in the country simply listen to what they hear.
And they're not they're not rubes.
Now, yesterday morning on Scarborough's program on SNBC, the guest was Time Magazine senior political analyst Mark Halperan, who said this about the mosque story.
The story's gone a little bit underground.
It's not on the network news in the evening every night.
It's not on the front page of the papers to counteract what's going on on talk radio every day on Rush Limbaugh and other talk radio and on uh the internet.
So what how often happens in these stories is talk radio starts it, it migrates to the old media, all sides get in, then it disappears from the old media, but it continues below the radar.
So I think it's incredibly important for shows like this to talk about it in a way that doesn't just have the disinformation and the hate.
What disinformation and what hate?
We're simply telling about the Imam.
Alger His 2.0.
Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf.
Uh what's what what what is the disinformation here?
We've played videotape, audio tape of Mr. Raouf saying that there's more American blood in the world than there is Al-Qaeda blood.
We've played his own words.
This is Mark Halpern.
This is this is the guy who advised the Republicans to avoid the 9-11 Hamas battle for their own good.
Stay out of it, don't get anywhere near it.
It's gonna harm the Republican Party.
So I but I I don't I don't assume that Mr. Halpern or Mr. Feynman or Mr. Matthews are interested in Republican Party success.
So when they warn us to stay away from this for our own good, I said, well, what they're not interested in our own good.
I mean, these guys are on the political left, they're out to defeat us.
Conservatives, new media, what have you.
Obama Obama if if all we've got to go on with Obama is that he's he said he's he's not a socialist.
So he's not a socialist, right?
There's any socialism going on here.
Because Obama has said that he's not a socialist.
For Fox News, State Department officials say they are aware, the controversial remarks Imam Feizal Abdul Rahouf made in a 2005 conference in Australia.
We played the audio of this on Monday, in where the Imam said we tend to forget in the West that the U.S. has more Muslim blood on its hands than Al Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non-Muslims.
You remember that the U.S. led sanctions against Iraq led to the death of over a half million Iraqi children.
This has been documented by the United Nations.
Wait a minute, I thought we went to Bosnia-Serbia in defense of Muslims.
Somehow we're Islamophobic.
PJ Crowley, um, State Department spokes.
He said, Yeah, we're we're aware of the Imam's remarks.
I would just caution any of you that uh choose to write on this that the once again you have a case where a blogger has pulled out one passage from a very lengthy speech.
If you read the entire speech, you will discover exactly why we think he's rightfully participating in this international speaking tour.
Now, Crowley, as usual, is misinformed.
These remarks probably carry even more weight because they were off text.
They were not on the prompter.
They were not they were not part of his prepared remarks.
These remarks about blood and Iraq and Al-Qaeda and so forth, the United Nations agreeing, those are off the cuff.
So he really didn't mean to say those things.
They weren't on his prepared text.
In fact, if you read the rest of his remarks, you'll be further convinced that he's the wrong man to be speaking for the U.S. and the Middle East.
He's an emissary who sent him out there as an envoy.
On the substance of Ralph's 2005 accusations, none other than former President Clinton has defended the sanctions, some of which took place during his years in the White House.
These are the Iraqi sanctions that said to have resulted in the death of 500,000 Iraqi children.
Clinton and other diplomats assert that Saddam Hussein's regime corrupted the sanctions and denied humanitarian aid to his own people.
Crowley also revealed that Raouf's activities over the next few days, which the State Department had been reluctant to do before Tuesday.
Imam Faisal has arrived in Doha Qatar.
He'll be giving remarks and attending a traditional event of handing out gifts and treats to children at the Doha Youth Center.
He has a full range of other private events, including a lecture at a university, meetings with government officials, non-governmental organizations, and participation in services at mosques and Ramadan activities.
Wow, wonderful.
And we have Asra Q Nomani, the Daily Beast, asking, is the mosque story one that doesn't even really exist?
Is it the new balloon boy story of the summer?
With less than $9,000 raised and a chaotic PR strategy, the Ground Zero Mosque is nowhere close to becoming a reality.
As debate rages over the mosque, the media's once again whipped itself into a frenzy over a story that doesn't really exist.
Without money, a nonprofit organizational structure or a coherent PR strategy, the plan to build an Islamic center in Hamas near ground zero remains nothing more than a pipe dream.
And the growing media brouhaha is a little reminiscent of last year's storm over balloon boy.
Fort Collins, Colorado kid whose parents claimed he had drifted away in a helium balloon.
The truth is the Park 51 plan's much more nascent than the story has been played in the media, and that's nobody's fault.
It's just the hallmark of any fledgling operation.
Yet it continues to be controversial.
Now, Andy McCarthy, National Review Online, one of the editors over there.
I mean, this is a piece.
Brave Brave Peace.
His headline, inventing moderate Muslim or Islam.
He says, inventing moderate Muslim, it can't be done without confronting mainstream Islam and its Sharia agenda.
And it's a long piece, but McCarthy says we're being force-fed the idea that there are moderate Muslims.
Pouring that this idea pouring out of our elite, totally bought off universities.
And McCarthy explains here there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim.
Now, wait till the drive-bys get hold of this piece.
I mean, they're going to literally freak out.
It is a long, long piece.
But the point is there's no such thing as moderate Islam.
You know, one of the things McCarthy says that taught him this, he was he was, as we've discussed countless times in the program, Andy McCarthy was on the U.S. attorney staff, the U.S. attorney's office prosecuting the blind sheik.
And in preparing for the trials, he listened and read to what the blind sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman had said.
Some of the most incendiary, provocative violence-inducing things he had said.
And McCarthy said, We're obviously dealing with a cook here.
So I want to find out just how far off the reservation of Islam this guy is.
So he took some of the most outrageous things that Omer Omar Abdel Rahman had said and went looking for what a counterpart could be in the Quran.
And he said, McCarthy said, that he was bowled over.
He was shocked that there wasn't any exaggeration that everything the Imam said, or the sheikh was saying, all these claims, all these threats, he could find every one of them in the Quran.
He said, My gosh, we're not dealing with a kook here.
This is a mainstream Islamist.
Who wanted to blow up subways and so forth in New York?
World Trade Center back in the 90s.
So there's a there's a wide disparity here between the once again the ruling class and everybody else over who these people are.
This is why I believe we're looking here at almost the reincarnation of the Cold War.
We've got the Russians, Soviets, and the American elite, the act academics, and everybody else thinking, oh, they're harmless people.
In fact, it's a great system if we just get the right people running it.
It's all about fairness and equality.
Meanwhile, the rest of the people say that people are slaughtered in communist countries.
They build walls to keep them in and they kill them and they put them in jail if they don't tow the party line.
And we're saying, how can our elites look at this and find anything admirable in it, anything they want to emulate.
And we're at a loss that Ronald Reagan comes along and starts calling the evil empire and the people on the ruling class literally start having cows.
Reagan makes jokes before taping a Saturday radio address, tell the Russians a bombing starts in five minutes.
They literally had a coward.
Reagan was going to start a nuclear war with these people.
Gorbachev was the savior.
Gorbachev was the man who was going to save the world from nuclear disaster.
Reagan was going to cause it.
He was the cowboy.
So you have this great divide, and you've got the same thing now.
You've got Bloomberg and the pro-Mosque people thinking that this is nothing more than a freedom of worship issue, a freedom of religion issue.
When they don't care about that in the first place, anyway, versus the rest of the country is, wait a minute now.
2700 Americans died on that site.
Something here doesn't compute with those of us who live in the world of common sense.
Okay, which time to go to the phones of people have been patiently waiting here on the rush.
Limbaugh program as we serve humanity simply by being here to Pearlin, Texas, or Pearlland, Texas.
It's Craig, and it's great to have you, sir.
Hi.
Thank you.
Make it us, right?
Good to talk to you.
Thank you, sir.
It's Paraland, Texas.
Hey, I was just listening to that last segment.
I was in my car and I heard that guy say that the ideas were off the radar when you got you talk about it on the radio.
And I almost drove off the road.
Because it's like you have more people listening to you than a lot of these liberal programs combined.
How could anything you say be off the radar?
Well, exactly right.
You're talking about uh Feynman and uh Chris Matthews.
Right.
Right.
These ideas exist off the radar, off their radar, maybe.
Well, if you if you look, go go back and grab soundbite number five.
Some soundbite number five, and this is uh this is Feynman, this sums it up.
Uh if you want to know how they look at themselves.
Everybody who watches this show knows exactly what's going on because we're explaining it to them, and this has a deep history of fearing the other, of fearing the outsider.
Look, Barack Obama came in as a president representing something new.
This scares the heck out of these people, and they'll use any element of fear they can.
Sometimes I think Rush Limbaugh's amusing, sometimes I think he's useful in the conversation.
This is wrong.
All right, now he's talking about the Chris Matthews show, which forget commenting on its audience size.
Everybody who watches this show knows exactly what's going on because we're explaining it to them.
Now, the implication is that you don't know anything going on because I'm lying to you.
Or because I'm propagandizing you.
Or something.
But if you listen to MSNBC, you know what's going on because they're the smart people and they are explaining what's going on.
There's a giant disconnect because that's the last thing most Americans think they're getting from the media.
Most Americans think they're getting, if anybody's off the radar, it's these people.
Most people think they're getting propaganda.
When we say that we are scared, Obama came in as a president representing something new, and this scares the heck out of what scares us about Obama is his policy.
For crying out loud, do these people not see what's happening to this country's economy?
Do they not see what is happening to the country?
Do they not see the fundamental negative change that is occurring precisely because of the policies of Barack Obama?
They're the ones that are ostriches.
They have their heads in the sand.
They got one of their guys in, and that's it.
There are no questions, there's no curiosity.
There's just this demand that we all tow the line and go along.
We're bigots, we're afraid of change.
We are opposed to this kind of change.
And by the way, the people that voted for Obama were not told that this was going to be the kind of change they were going to get.
So to say that the opposition to Obama is unbalanced or unjustified or irrational is just the it is the the un the blindful continuing support, the unquestioned support for Obama that is off the radar and unbalanced and inexplicable.
Back to Miss NBC yesterday morning in the Scarborough Show.
They're talking to BBC news correspondent Catty Kay, the co-host Mikha Zuzhinski.
I have to tell you, when uh when I see and hear what the Republicans have had a say on when it comes to kind of taking this mosque business to a vitriotic level, all I can see is that they're purposefully damaging our society in order to gain politically.
Now, how in the world can a reasonable people see it, a person see it that way?
The Republicans are purposefully damaging our society in order to gain politic.
We are trying to damage the society.
We're trying to save it.
Anyway, here is what the BBC correspondent, the Brit, Cathy Kay, had to say about Republicans purposefully damaging American society.
Muslims start hearing the kind of talk that has come out of some public officials and some leading Republicans, and they start becoming more radicalized.
And I think that is a real risk for this country.
You want to try and protect your moderate Muslim population, and you've got to have outspoken public defenders of moderate Muslims and of Muslims in general in America.
And where are they here?
That's what I find alarming is that as this debate has gone on, and as Mark has said on, you know, conservative talk radio, you're hearing this, there are not very many outspoken public voices saying this is not acceptable.
All right, so uh Kathy Kay of the BBC says that America should protect its moderate Muslims.
So I guess moderate Muslims are victims.
Moderate Muslims are lesser people who need to be protective of the ruling class.
Um I was just gonna say the the Brits are overrun here.
Let me give you a thought.
Let's.
This is a good point from a friend of mine that just flashed me a quick email.
Put aside the subjective term moderate Islam.
Just put it aside for a moment, and let's focus on an uncontested fact.
There is no separation of church and state in Islam.
Now, as you know, to the American ruling class, the American left, separation of church and state is one of the most important things they believe exists in this country.
They don't want any religious person having one damn thing to say about anything political in this country and all of these people from Caddy K on up or down, depending on where you want to put her in the scale here, look at religious people with slanted eyes.
Distrust.
They look at them through grimaces.
They just there's a suspicion of religious pity.
They don't like separation of church and state.
They have they have they've even defined that in a way it was never meant constitutionally.
Separation of church and state and yet here they are supporting moderate Islam.
Ms. Kay, do you realize there is no separation of church and state in Islam?
It's one and the same are you going to demand separation of church and state among Muslims or Islamists in this country or in your own country of the UK?
Every religious building and action in Islam is political that's how they look at it.
It's the core reason there should not be a mosque built at ground zero.
There's no separation of church and state here with with with this bunch.
And yet with the ruling class in this country the American left separation of church is saying why that's fundamental.
We can't have any Pat Robertsons running around.
We can't have any Billy Graham's running around impacting policy.
We we we can't have it we can't elect these rabid right wing Christians we can have this they're not but but uh Islamists are not separated from the church anyway.
I mean the defining thing is the religion some I'd say the religion is the government.
Mike in Washington you're next on the EIB network hi.
Hey Broth I'm thinking to myself that if uh McCarthy is right and there's no such thing as moderate Islam then we know Obama is not a uh Muslim because he hasn't honor killed his wife for showing too much skin yet or either of his daughters for any of the naughty things that I'm sure they've done so that settles the whole Barack Obama is a Muslim issue.
But um no no no wait a minute you gotta start here at the beginning I'm not sure I was able to follow your brilliance on this you said you're thinking to yourself that McCarthy is right Andy McCarthy.
Then by now Barack Obama surely would have had his wife honor killed for showing too much skin in some of those dresses she wears or wearing a bikini or something like that, right?
Well if that's how you want to interpret it I frankly hadn't looked at it that way.
I mean I you're looking at this through a prison that not even I Il Rushmore looking at it through well anyway let's get to the Cordoba House because I heard you say yesterday that of course they have the right just as the West Baptist ministers have the right to shout their foolery at the uh soldiers funerals but are you going to come out and defend them for it?
Well I think the difference here is that there the West Baptist ministers are the bad guys.
Here liberals like myself argue that Muslims that are trying to reach across the divide and are that regret that 911 ever happened they're the good guys.
They're the guys we need on our team so I guess my question to you would be is there any Muslim anywhere on earth that you would feel okay opening up the mosque near ground zero and if you can't identify a Muslim should we deny Christians the right to go to Oswald the Christian the burden of proof is not on me.
The question really needs to be asked of people like you what what are the Westboro protesters doing wrong the people that show up at soldiers funerals and say they deserve to die or whatever what are they doing wrong?
They're screaming outrageously offensive things and elevating isn't the problem that they're owned over isn't the problem that they are being insensitive to the dead soldiers.
When they showed up at military funerals and say they deserve to die and have all these aren't isn't the problem they're being insensitive to the dead soldiers.
I I wouldn't characterize it as that I would say they're being very very selfish in elevating their own political religious agenda but the point is they have the right to do it I simply ask is it proper is it sensitive does it make sense how How is that?
How is that any different?
What I'm saying to you is that my problem with the West Baptist, I have a problem with those folks.
Although I do see that they have the right.
I think it's wrong, but what they are doing is wrong.
I don't think what the Ralph guy is doing is wrong.
He's trying to bridge a divide between Americans that were hurt by 9-11 and the Muslims.
Let me tell you something.
This is, you know, Mike, this is you are epitomizing the real fundamental problem we have in this country.
You are a leftist, and you want to side every chance you get against your country.
If they were really interested in bridging a divide, they would not build the mosque.
They can see the polling data, they can see that most of the Americans whom they want to build a bridge to do not want the mosque at ground zero.
They're not opposed to the mosque anywhere in the country.
They don't want it there.
Now, if they're really interested in bridging a divide, then they would listen and not do it there.
The fact that they are not listening means they are purposely trying to provoke.
There's no difference in these guys and carrying signs, the Westboro gang at dead soldiers' funerals mocking it.
There's no difference whatsoever.
The fact that you, as an American liberal, somehow don't see this is the epitome of the problem our country faces.
You pose a much bigger threat to this country's future as it exists than this Imam ever will.
And we'll be back after that.
A quick question, ladies and gentlemen, can anybody recall for me, anyone, anybody anywhere, somebody help me out with this.
Can anybody anywhere recall for me the last time the American left stood up for the right of any other religion?
When have they stood up for Catholicism?
When has the American left stood up for Judaism?
When has the American left stood up for Mormons?
The last I heard, they're trying to tear down Mitt Romney and Mormons.
Can anybody name for me anywhere?
Anytime the American left has stood up for the right of any other religion.
I can't.
Now, is that because Islam is the first anti-American, anti-Western religion?
Could it be that the American left and liberals like our caller stand up for Islam because it is an anti-American, anti-Western religion.
And they identify with it.
And they look at them as a minority, as victims.
Oppressed by Western civilization.
Howard Feynman called Mitt Romney a backstabbing throat cutter.
Now, there's also another possibility to explain the American left's newfound love of religion.
Because it is the American left's newfound devotion to religion, specifically Islam.
Because as I have just illustrated, the American left really doesn't like any religion.
But they hate conservatism more.
The American left hates conservatives more than they hate religion generically.
And so in the Hamas issue, the American left sees conservatives opposed to it.
And therefore, since they hate us more than they hate anybody else, they have to support the mosque.
Because, frankly, I don't think they can't.
This is this is the first time I've ever heard the American left be so devoted to defending a religion.
I don't remember it.
I can't think of a time.
Mostly the American left acts scared to death of it.
Separation church and stuff.
But what the hell is the purpose of the ACLU?
What's the purpose of Barry Lynn?
The purpose is to wipe out religion.
The Southern Poverty Law Center.
All of these groups exist.
Basically attacking right-wing religious people.
They do it under the guise of racism, bigotry, You know, being opposed to all that, but now all of a sudden, out of the blue, the biggest supporters of a mosque and Islam are the American left.
Even if you were to tell them, you know, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, there's no separation of church and state in Islam.
It wouldn't matter.
They oppose us.
They hate us more than they hate anything else.
The American left, and let's be honest about it.
American left considers us a greater threat than the Al Qaeda.
Well, no, that's that's a question that's always puzzled me.
How can the leftist females in this country, the nags, the now gang, how in the world can they intellectually honestly support Islam with what happens to women in Islamic countries.
And yet, not a word.
Because conservatives to them pose a greater threat.
They hate us.
And I don't know this notion that Islam is a minority, it's the largest religion in the world, but yet they look at Islam as an oppressed minority because they consider America the j the world's greatest oppressor, and conservatives part and parcel of that.
Paul in Buffalo, your next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hello, sir.
Oh, hi, Rush.
It's an honor to talk to you.
God bless you and your work, sir.
Thank you, sir, very much.
What when I heard there's no such thing as a moderate is uh Muslim, my uh my ears perked up because I've long thought that, but you never ever hear it.
Um when you compare it to the Cold War.
Um I know what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you.
I think that could be nuanced a little bit because I think that it is infinitely more dangerous than the Cold War.
How's that?
Because primarily because of the fundamental ideology of Islam versus uh a Judeo-Christian mindset.
Even though the um many communist people were suppressed for years and years with their religion, it still didn't change what's in their hearts and minds as right and wrong and how to go about achieving their world view.
They saw communism, they saw the falseness of communism after a while.
Um, and yeah, Gorbachev was uh um uh a big help in this, but I think it's infinitely more dangerous because that ideology, I don't know how they can be reconciled, the Judeo-Christian ideology and the Islam ideology.
Well, wait a minute.
You could you you you couldn't reconcile communism.
Communism has to get rid of all religion.
The communists.
Let me tell you something.
In if you you take them outside of the United States, communists hate Muslims too, because they're religious.
I mean, who was it that was battling the Mojahadeen in Afghanistan?
There's a Soviets.
Who was it that was causing trouble for the uh for the boss for the uh the the Moslem Serbs and so forth, the Soviet Union behind all this communists?
The communists have to wipe out all of it.
The communists have to wipe out God.
The state replaces God in communism.
Right, but the people that were suppressed by communism, they are different than the people who are suppressed by Islam.
Oh, and they're basically their basic ideology is different.
Uh okay.
So you basically lost you there for a second.
No, no, no, no.
You you I did I I get it now.
You're basically because the people who follow communism are not following a religion.
They're oppressed and really would like to get out of it.
Uh the the uh the people following Islam are big uh they're they're they're believers.
The mindset is different.
I mean, it's it's it's it's to profit proselycize the world.
It's it's not it's there's no building bridges.
Your last caller talked about building bridges, and I agree with you.
When are some people going to get it through the sick heads that they don't view it as building a bridge?
They can talk about breaking down divisions, but in reality, whether it's whether it's it's active or whether it's uh under the table and quiet and and kind of stealth, there are no building bridges.
It's it's the the the basic i uh ideology is to just convert the world.
And and and that's not getting along with other people.
You know, you see other faiths doing that, they disagree on many things, but they get it, they try to get along.
I don't think that's that's not the basic premise here.
And and I don't remember anything on a wide scale where Islam is.
I understand what you're doing.
You're you're you're separating leadership from uh uh rank and file.
Uh but and I understand your point here, but in terms of communism leaders versus Islam leaders, the communists are trying to convert everybody.
The communists are trying to defeat all opposition, and that's what Sharia law is all about at Islam.
Anyway, here we are, up to it again.
The constraints of time necessitate an obscene profit timeout.
right back after this.
I just want to clarify something Andy McCarthy said.
He did not say that there aren't any moderate Muslims.
He says in his piece that there are millions of moderate Muslims.
What he says is there's no moderate Islam, that the doctrine is not moderate for all the reasons we've been detailing, i.e., separation church and state.
For example, what does the ICLU say about all this?
The Islamic Civil Liberties Union.
There isn't one.
We have an ACLU, but there is not an Islamic Civil Liberties Union getting in to help adjudicate disputes within the religion.