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July 16, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 16, 2010, Friday, Hour #2
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Thanks, Johnny.
Thanks, Rush, for the opportunity to sit in the chair today.
And thank all of you for your indulgence and listenership and calling.
Rush back on Monday.
Mark Davis of WBAP Dallas Fort Worth with you this hour and next, and then off we head into a weekend that will contain heaven knows what, but Rush will comment on it upon his return, which is Monday.
Well, we did a lot of things in the first hour, and one of them that I mentioned that I wanted to get into, uh, just looking at the week gone by.
Just I am more sad than I am angry at what the once proud NAACP has become.
I mean, sure, if you if you you any time people are slandered, any time uh an entire movement like the Tea Party movement is uh is berated.
And I listen, I can hear the NAACP say all day long.
We're not talking about all Tea Partiers.
Oh, really?
Well, thanks a lot.
Well, that makes it okay.
Well, I'm here to tell you there is not a shred, not a molecule of racism that drives the heart of the Tea Party movement.
Can you find the occasional guy somewhere who, you know, with some uh less than enlightened views?
Sure.
I mean, uh it's it's a race, uh it's it's it's uh a group made up of people of multiple races.
Are they predominantly white?
Yeah.
Are there people of color in the Tea Party?
Yeah.
Uh are are some of them a little wacky?
Sure.
It's a human race group of people.
And so there's there's not a definable group of people that you can find that doesn't have uh you know the the occasional uh soul who you wish would uh straighten up a view or two.
But the the portrayal that the the that there is something in the Tea Party movement that the N the the NAACP needs to criticize.
That the Tea Party needs to repudiate the portion of its soul that is racist is a lie on its face.
And that's not the only NAACP angle.
Quinn Hillier is with us, senior editorial writer for the Washington Times.
Mr. Hillier, Mark Davis, in for us, nice to have you.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing fine, Mark.
Thanks a lot.
It's my pleasure.
And and so we have coming together, the stars are kind of aligning in a weird way for multiple stories, and this is the entire new Black Panther story, uh, where we have this one figure from the 08 uh uh Philadelphia uh story of voter intimidation, throwing down the we need to kill white people, we need to kill cracker babies and all of this.
And the the NAACP is able to to uh gin up all manner of indignation about the Tea Party movement, but we hear very little from them uh about the the the venom of the new Black Panthers, and you've done some work indicating some connections.
People were wondering, well, is there a you know a an NAACP new Black Panther connection, however tangential, what did you find?
Well, uh it is a matter of dispute, but the uh uh an attorney, a top attorney for the legal adjunct arm of the NAACP, a woman named Kristen Clark, uh, has been said to have been one of the first people lobbying the Justice Department to drop the case against the new Black Panthers.
Now, we at the Washington Times reported that she actually acknowledged to our reporter uh that she had done so.
She then testified to the Civil Rights Commission that she did not.
Uh then Mr. Adams, the the whistleblowing attorney, testified to the Civil Rights Commission that yes, indeed, Kristen Clark of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund had indeed lobbied uh the Justice Department well before they decided to drop the case.
Now, this is J. Chris J. Christian Adams, who you refer to as the now famous uh whistleblower.
Right.
And let's take people back a step for folks who just need the refresher.
This case, now infamously dropped by the Obama Justice Department, was about voter intimidation in 2008 that took what exact shape.
Uh two members of this radical hate group, the New Black Panther Party, uh dressed in paramilitary garb, one of them with a night stick, b bouncing the night stick into his hand in a very threatening manner, standing right outside a polling place, using racial epithets and threats uh to try to intimidate voters and or poll watchers.
And one one can only wonder if so if there had been some neo-clansmen, some skinhead attempting to do this uh to to a black voting population that that it would have been front page all over.
Absolutely would have been front page.
Now, this was caught in video tape, and they had some extremely credible witnesses, including Bartle Ball, who used to be an attorney for RFK went down to Mississippi to fight uh for civil rights of blacks in the sixties, was former publisher of the Liberal Village Voice.
He was one of the people that testified.
He said it was the worst form of voter intimidation he had ever seen in his life.
The case was a slam dunk case.
A judge had uh issued what's a what's called a default uh order uh which was a document that went to the Justice Department saying basically all you need to do is sign on the dotted line and we've we will uh penalize these black panthers.
And instead, at that last moment, the new Obama team at justice dropped the charges.
Dropped the charges that were slam dunk, easily won charges uh that the judge had already basically offered uh to to find the people guilty.
So where does this story go now?
As in all things Washington, there are some things that you and I can look at and half the country can look at, if not more.
And say, Well, good Lord, that seems like an obvious political motivation, but that doesn't mean there's really anything that can be done about it.
So where does this all stand now?
Well, where it stands is again uh there is the allegation of outside interference with this case uh perhaps by the NAACP attorney, uh, but there are further allegations that we started reporting at the Washington Times last August or September,
that uh that the Justice Department, civil rights division, especially encouraged by the Obama team, uh, will not prosecute uh cases uh against uh black perpetrators and when there were white victims of civil rights violations.
So civil rights only protect blacks, they don't protect whites.
That is the allegation.
Now you have more and more people coming out to back the attorney J. Christian Adams, who who has now made this allegation public.
Just today, two more affidavits uh were released by former uh members of the civil rights division attorneys uh at the Justice Department who say Christian Adams is right, that that is the attitude there and that it is pervasive, and that means if you're white, you have no civil rights in this country, according to the Obama Justice Department.
The the template for White House behavior on this is to either dismiss i questions about this kind of double standard, this kind of skullduggery uh as well.
We're not even going to dignify that with a reply.
But has there been a peep of uh of acknowledgement that the controversy exists?
Almost none.
They uh they did put out a statement uh slamming the lawyer, Mr. Adams, for supposedly having an agenda, uh, but they don't ever actually respond to the specific allegations.
Again and again, if you ask them specifically, did X happen, instead they issue a broad statement, Well, we're concerned with the civil rights of all Americans.
And you say, Well, did event X happen?
And again they'll say, Well, we're concerned with civil rights of all Americans.
They will not answer the questions.
Wow.
It's it's unbelievable.
And and then the head of the Civil Rights Division, Tom Perez, uh, went before the Civil Rights Commission and said he was totally unaware that uh that there could possibly be this attitude uh in the civil rights division at the Justice Department, uh where you where they thought they should only protect black civil rights, but not the civil rights for whites.
He said, no, that uh that's that's new to him.
And now you've got all these other people coming up and saying, well, it's pervasive and it's been talked about in public meetings, uh, so how can Mr. Perez not know it?
People are starting to say, in fact, Jennifer Rubin today said at the contentions blog uh that uh uh that it's starting to look like Mr. Perez's testimony was possibly uh, you know, bordering on perjury at least.
Uh you have Congressman Frank Wolf, very r respected Congressman from Northern Virginia, who is demanding that the Inspector General of the Justice Department look into this and do a full-fledged investigation.
So that's where things are now, and uh and this case is not dying any time soon.
In our remaining couple of minutes with Quinn Hill, your senior editorial writer for the Washington Times want to take a walk through the bio.
How long have you been in the uh the the Times building?
I've been at the Washington Times for about sixteen months now.
And pri now, so it was pretty recently that you were uh doing your your noble work for the American Spectator.
Well, I'm still um I'm still a senior editor for the American Spectator as well, yes indeed.
Output of a newspaper and its editorial page.
The political magazines kind of interesting, as newspapers, you know, no bulletin to you.
Newspapers are struggling.
But the political magazine is an interesting thing to me, from from New Republic to American Spectator to I mean, in this era of websites and everybody watching 24-hour, you know, cable news, it seems like the p the weekly standard and others that the political magazine seems to have carved out kind of an interesting uh niche that that uh the whose cylinders are humming along quite nicely.
Uh well, yes, especially now that they also uh have websites.
So they can sort of have the best of both worlds and have.
They can have uh, you know, daily updates and and daily reporting and thoughtful stuff, but then they also have uh the weekly or the monthly uh magazine where they can do deeper pieces, thoughtful pieces, uh, you know, long-term uh long-term perspective pieces, so it lets them, you know, jump in on on on both.
And uh you know, it's it's it's a really interesting uh really interesting dynamic.
Uh but meanwhile, there I am at the Washington Times, uh turning out editorials daily, and uh we've literally done thirty-two editorials of or related to this new Black Panther.
That ties me directly to the sort of the last general question I want to ask about the process of editorializing.
Uh put me around the big mahogany table when the decisions are made.
Uh what editorials go in today and who writes them.
Well, i i it's it's sometimes a lot uh less formal than that.
I mean uh we've got a lot of autonomy to go out and find our own stories, and then we just we sort of run them up the up the flagpole uh and uh you know, and if they need to be discussion, there's discussion.
Uh but one of the things we like to do, we don't just like to throw opinions out there.
We do original reporting within our editorials.
Uh and uh and we take some pride in that.
Uh actually Bob Novak used to uh do that in his columns where he had a rule where he said every column had to have at least one newly reported fact that nobody had reported on before.
Uh we like to do the same sort of thing and break news within our editorials, and and a lot of these reports on the Black Panther case and on the deeper issues of of whether civil rights are protected for everybody.
Uh a lot of those uh developments have been reported first in our editorials.
Since 1982, if memory serves, the Washington Times offering up of uh an alternative to the Post.
I remember for years is the Post still referred to as the OP.
Other paper.
They wouldn't even say the words the OP they did that.
I was three years out of of uh my journalism degree at the University of Maryland, had gone off to various uh locations, but I was loving on the early days of the Washington Times in like 1982, the attitude, the freshness, the uh the new kid on the block thing.
Well, now, you know, a generation later, you're you're everything but the new kid on the block and more than established and always a valuable read at uh the Washington Times Court.
Quinn, thank you so much, Mark.
It is my my great pleasure.
Great to have you today on the Rush Limbaugh Show, and look forward to talking to you somewhere somehow real soon.
Thanks again, Mark.
I really pleasure.
Quinn Hill, your Washington Times.
It was it was so wild.
I uh growing up in DC, we had the the Washington Star was the alternative voice.
It was afternoon paper, uh which means doomed.
And uh even after a long history, the star eventually, you know, went away.
And then when uh uh uh uh what an alternative paper to the Washington Post?
What?
And uh uh and a conservative paper at that what?
surely this can't last.
Well, yeah, who's saying that now?
So Washington Times, good people.
All right, let's talk to some good people on the phones about some of the things Mr. Hillier brought us, about some of the things that I've brought up, the Hillary 2012 I Told You So Tour.
Does that intrigue you strike fear into your heart?
Do you simply laugh dismissively?
Um the I I wrote a column this week in the Dallas Morning News, as I usually do.
And uh if if you're inclined to uh to smile on me with your readership of stuff I do and little things I throw out, uh you can follow me on Twitter if you want to.
It's Mark Davis, all one word, M-A-R-K-D-A-V-I-S, Mark Davis on Twitter.
Thank you very much.
And this past week's column w was about just a sad week for the NAACP.
And speaking of Mr. Hillier, I mean, if they're involved, if they're partnering up with the White House to to simply sweep under the rug a horrible racist criminal behavior when it is on the part of black people instead of just against black people.
I mean, I I mean silly, silly me.
I believe that racial hate is wrong, no matter who is practicing it.
Silly, silly me.
I I believe that voter intimidation is wrong, no matter what color the intimidators are.
Silly, silly me.
I believe in looking objectively at uh at attitudinal racism and racial discrimination, uh at no matter against whom it is practiced.
And my ultimate hope is that that's not silly, but kind of the way we need to live.
And that's harder when we don't have a white house that believes that's the way that we need to live.
It's a Rush Limbaugh show, Mark Davis filling in.
You're right back.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show for a Friday.
Mark Davis filling in in Texas to the phones to the phone, Stockton, California, Robert.
Mark Davis filling in for Rush.
Welcome to the show.
How are you?
All right, it's a good program.
Thank you.
Um You know, I find it highly ironic that it was Eric Holder who originally accused America of being cowardly when it comes to the dialogue on race, and yet when he has to answer questions about his justice justice department uh overlooking the plight of whites, when it comes to voter intimidation, he's nowhere to be seen.
Where's this dialogue on race and who are the real cowards?
Yes, where's where's the courage to step forward and face the possibility that your own White House may be playing racial favorites?
Robert, that's a golden recollection and a superb observation.
And and I'm presuming you know that that when Eric Holder said this, that we were a nation of cowards on race, it simply meant that the nation was not having the number and kind of conversations about race with the kind of results that that that he and uh not not just other black people, but other liberals of all colors want us to have.
Yeah, it's almost like we don't even you know, when it comes to whites, it's like where's our civil rights and where's our de uh Department of Justice coming to our aid when Yeah, I mean here's the thing, as I I know I don't want to wring my hands about the sorry white uh sorry plight of the white guy, but but I I want actual equality.
Dare I drop that E-word and mean it?
Actual equality.
If people are involved in in acts of race hate and they're white, go get them.
If they're involved in acts of race hate and they're black, go get them.
If there's voter intimidation of black people, go stop that.
If there's voter intimidation of white people, go stop that.
That's that I'm not looking for special attention to white causes.
I'm looking for uh for uh equal consideration of of all of those situations in a genuinely colorblind way.
Robert, thank you, my best everybody in Stockton, California.
As we get to the bottom of this hour, let me put something in your head, see if this works.
Uh when when uh Attorney General Holder was talking about the U.S. and our cowardice about dialogue on race.
I next time someone says something, says the following thing, I want you to have heavy skepticism of it.
You ready?
The sentence goes like this, and it sounds great.
What we need is more dialogue on race.
No, we don't.
What we need is for more people to just quietly go about their lives leading by the example of treating people fairly and decently, irrespective of color, because usually when I hear the words dialogue on race, I'm on board because I'm a talk show guy.
I'll dialogue about race all day long, and I'm fascinated by it.
But generally speaking, when you have dialogues about race, what you usually wind up with is people just fussing and moaning at each other of you know, white folks hacked off uh about uh the seeming imbalances and such, and and black folks with enormous chips on their shoulder, a la Jesse or Al Sharpton.
I know so many reasonable black folks, and I don't even mean people who agree with me.
I I know plenty of liberal black folks who are far more reasonable, far more folks you get a far more dialogue with than Jesse or Al or the modern day NAACP.
And they don't tend to get into those dialogues.
So more in a moment.
Mark Davis in for Rush.
On the EIB network.
Where we all hope you have a fantastic weekend, and whatever happens over the weekend that needs to be commented on, it will be commented on by Rush himself upon his return on Monday.
Just a one day off, and I'm glad to be here.
Mark Davis at WBAP in Dallas, Fort Worth.
And uh with that, let's head to some more of your calls.
Let us he you know, it's funny.
There's something wonderful that happens when you when you host or guest host the Rush Limbaugh show.
It's the nation is so vast and the listenership is so vast that I'll have something that I really wanted to talk about, something I wanted to bring up from a portion of the country, and someone from that portion of the country will boop appear ready to go.
So with this story of the very curious and interesting list of illegal immigrants that is cropped up, let us head to Park City, Utah and say hi to Clifton on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Hey, Clifton, Mark Davis filling in.
How are you?
I am fantastic.
Let me tell everybody uh about this story, and then you tell me how it's playing in Utah and what you think ought to happen.
All right.
Um it's it's uh they're parallel there are multiple angles to it.
And well thirty seconds and then here you go.
There's a list of about thirteen hundred illegal immigrants that got blasted out to the media to all kinds of folks, just a public dissemination of all kinds of information.
Home addresses, pregnancy due dates, oh my gosh, all kinds of things, from an outfit called, I think the concerned citizens of the United States.
Lovely name.
Could they be more generic?
Uh and and but anyway, these citizens of the United States, properly concerned about illegal immigration, found some and have outed them.
All right, but they apparently did it by raiding the database of uh the the Utah uh the employment offices and such.
Right.
And so what we curiously have, and we can talk all day about the propriety or impropriety of that, but what's funny is to watch the media outrage and some of the some of the uh oh my gosh, we've got to find who released these names.
What an incredible crime.
These people deserve uh confidentiality, da-da-da-da-da-da.
If I I pray for the day when we can see one-tenth that much indignation for another kind of law breaking called being in the country illegally.
So that's that's what I consume this morning.
You're the guy in Utah, so take it from there.
Well, you know, I I pretty much have the same view as you.
You know, there's a lot of controversy about the list and the names that are on it.
And the governor in Utah is actually calling for all state, uh local police department, state agencies, government agencies not to do any follow-up on the list.
They're basically more concerned, and like you said, in in finding out uh who did produce the list and prosecuting the producers of the list, and I just kind of wanted to get your take on how come there's not more national media coverage on this, and how come government well,
no government agency as far as I know has really tried to do anything about finding out if any of the names on the list are actually illegal aliens uh here illegally or you know, if if a lot of the names on the list are are actual citizens, you know.
Now they've they they've talked to a few people here in Utah that were on the list, but so far the only people that they they've you know brought in the light on this subject has been people um that are here legally.
You know, they're they're calling uh to prosecute people, but they're not gonna prosecute the people that have already broken the law.
Well, th the first th all right, let me give you I'll give you a chunk of wisdom and then you give me some back.
The first thing that I would want to know uh of of any about anyone on the list is of the thirteen hundred, are there any who are on on the list erroneously?
Are they actually here legally and the first thing I'd want to do is leave them alone and get them off the list.
The second thing's kind of a flow chart, okay, step B is of the people who are on the list whom we now know to be here illegally, I want them deported.
Let's go to move C. Then, okay, then and only then am I ready to go to the infinitely less significant but still worthy subject of how did this list come out?
If we have somehow stumbled onto a bunch of illegal immigrants, but it's from some people who uh got a hold of the database of the uh uh of the Utah Department of Workforce Services and publicized what they shouldn't have publicized.
This is not the way to do immigration enforcement.
Find and publish the addresses and pregnancy due dates of a bunch of illegals.
That's not the way to do it.
The way to do it is through the system.
But as we all know, the system ain't doing it.
So I want the system to do it, and I want the system to ramp up its efforts to do it, and that's what I want to do first.
And once we got that underway, okay, then I will fill my brain with uh some level of curiosity about how these names came out.
Your turn.
Well, you know, that's that's a good point.
Um like I said, you know, they just they are here illegally.
The fact is that they have broken the law.
Their names are out there now, regardless of how the names were produced.
I mean, of course they're gonna they're gonna find who has produced this list and they're gonna prosecute them to whatever extent of the law that they can.
Yeah.
But in in the meantime, we still have you know, 1,300 or you know, we have many people that are here illegally that are working in state agencies and government agencies and uh public agencies that are here illegally, and our governor has came out publicly and said that I want everybody to ignore this list.
Really, I'm not gonna be able to do that.
In those not care, careful with the the connotation and the paraphrasing, Governor Gary Herbert.
I mean, I I don't know if there's a quote of him, is there a quote of him saying, I don't want anybody to care about anybody on this list, you know, stop going after people.
Has he actually said that, or is that sort of the overall message as he puts out a directive that says, Look, we're we're not gonna be uh you know doing any roundup raids of these people.
Um, I couldn't speak verbatim for him, but that's the impression.
He he has came out and asked for agencies not to follow up on any of the names on the list.
Well, that's that's the way it usually goes.
I mean, let's go from thirteen hundred people on this list to one little girl sitting in an elementary school in Silver Spring, Maryland with Michelle Obama and the little girl who, you know, uh uh uh and and listen, my heart strings were tugged as well as she looked up and says, uh, is President Obama gonna, you know, take away all the people that don't have papers?
And uh Michelle offered uh is like kind of well uh uh well we need to work on that and blah, blah, blah.
And the little girl looks up and says, Well, my mom doesn't have any papers.
On my local show that day, I said the school needs to go get that mom.
She's in the country illegally.
Hello, do we have laws or do we not?
And I don't say that cavalierly.
And I and I I hate that this little girl is gonna suffer for the sins of her mother.
But but we have laws.
I hate it when a guy goes to jail for robbing a bank who has kids.
But what do we do?
He's got kids.
We can't break up the family by sending the bank robbing dad to jail.
Of course we can.
So, our Clefton, thank you for uh for a point of departure on about ten different uh subjects there.
Thank you very much.
And I'm I'm going to tie a couple of things together here that will seem like a ridiculous reach to you, but I'm gonna try to make it make sense.
Okay, it's a tall order, so follow along closely.
Uh in the Utah case, we have a list of illegal immigrants.
It's a list uh of whom some percentage are illegal immigrants, right?
Everybody's caught up about how we got that information.
Okay, that's a valid story, how we got that information.
And if there's impropriety about the ther how how these thirteen thirteen hundred names came out, all right, I want that dealt with.
Okay.
But the first and more urgent thing I want dealt with are the illegal immigrants on the list.
Now, what am I about to tie that to?
Mel Gibson.
Whoa, whoa.
Head snapping change of direction.
Yeah, but wait a minute.
What do we have in those really uncomfortable tapes of Mel going off on Oksana Gregorieva?
Well, we've learned some things about Mel, haven't we?
We've learned some really bad things about Mel.
There are some, and I'm getting the occasional email and the occasional call from people who say, okay, so you know, let's let's conclude what we will about Mel.
But what's this uh what's Oksana up to?
What was she did she set him up?
Did she taunt him?
Did she was she, you know, goading him into saying the most incendiary things possible?
I I think all of those answers are yes, yes, and yes.
Now, that changes nothing.
I mean, if you have Mel maybe admitting that he hit her, you knocked out two of my teeth.
You deserved it.
Oh my God, that's not a good moment.
Threatening to maybe even kill her, put her in the, you know, the rose garden.
Uh threatening to burn down the house.
I mean, none of that is good, and and that deserves to be in your head, and you get to conclude about Mel, whatever you want to conclude about Mel from all of that, from all of that.
But here's where I'm going.
It's funny because there's a certain group of folks who are who would say, don't worry about how we learned this about Mel.
We learned this about Mel.
And if Oaksana, you know, broke some telecommunications laws in a one party, a two-party state by only allowing uh by not telling somebody they're being taped, okay, that's all fine.
We'll get to that.
But what we've learned is that Mel Gibson is a despicable creature.
Okay, there are a lot of people who feel that way.
Apply that same logic to the Utah illegal immigrants list.
Okay, maybe some folks uh uh uh broke some rules and procedures about about making that list public.
But the important thing is we got a list of over a thousand illegal immigrants.
Don't take your eye off the important part of the story.
There, see.
That makes sense to you.
If so, call me, and if not, really call me.
1-800-282-2882.
Mark Davis in for rush on this Friday, and more of your calls about whatever are next.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show for a Friday.
Mark Davis filling in from Texas.
Great to have you along.
Let's take a look at some things uh on some stories that have crossed the wire this morning, some political stuff and various other things that uh deserve our attention as we wrap up a uh a Friday.
Um we were talking earlier about Meg Whitman, Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman in uh in California, and the notion of Tea Party candidates and where would that play and where might it not play, and uh Scott Brown's up in Massachusetts hopping into bed with the Dems.
We expect this of Olympia Snow and Susan Collins in Maine.
And it's weird, all of you in Maine, God bless you in Maine, you actually have Republicans.
That's better, I guess, than having Democrats when you have Republicans voting like Democrats, it makes everybody's head explode, and it makes us all figure out what in the world we need to be doing.
I mean, can a Tea Party style Republican win in Maine?
The easy answer seems to be probably not, but how do you know unless you try?
And so I would just love to see uh actual uh Tea Party candidate challenges to Olympia Snow and Susan Collins, so you can get people with an R by their name that really means something.
And uh in Massachusetts, I listen, it's Massachusetts.
Scott Brown beat Martha Coakley.
I'm thrilled, I'm still thrilled.
Uh and I knew at the outset that um that Scott Brown uh was was was not Reagan.
You know, that he was not a Dyed in the Wold down the line, uh serious conservative on all things.
And every once in a while he's he's he's going to to go squish on us.
And he hopped into bed with uh with the Obama White House to give us this absurd uh financial uh oversight bill.
Uh so let's go to California and Meg Whit for Meg Whitman, the headache is uh is immigration.
Uh she is riling conservatives with her stance on illegal immigrations.fgate.com.
Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman, who recently campaigned GOP former Governor Pete Wilson As being tough on nails, tough as nails on illegal immigration, could alienate her crucial conservative base by declaring she's in lockstep on the issue with former Governor Jerry Brown, who is, of course, her rival.
In an opinion piece published this week in a Spanish language publication in Southern California, Whitman wrote that there's very little that she disagrees with Brown on concerning the hot button issue of illegal immigration.
Oh my heavens.
While both agree that undocumented immigrants, undocumented, illegal immigrants should not be allowed to get amnesty or obtain driver's licenses.
Brown's camp says they disagree on key issues, including whether to give them a path to legalization.
Still, Whitman's statement has riled some conservatives to the point that they're threatening to sit out the election, an exodus that could hamper Whitman's chances.
Mike Spence is a GOP strategist, former president of the California Republican Assembly.
His quote is the more Meg says I'm just like Jerry Brown, the more demoralizing it is to Republican activists.
So it which brings us right back to the um to the age-old quandary of the conservative insufficiently inspired by a given candidate.
Do you sit it out?
Do you punish the party for elevating someone insufficiently conservative?
Okay, there's a bit of logic that says that.
Right.
But have you really helped yourself by helping Jerry Brown win?
And make no mistake.
If you fail to vote for Meg Whitman, you help Jerry Brown win.
Look hard in the mirror.
So there's a saying that's, you know, born relatively recently.
I mean, it's not that these words have never been strung together, but it it's vote for the most conservative person that can win.
The primary is when you have the opportunity to put up somebody who's more conservative.
We'll either succeed or we will fail.
If we succeed, hooray.
If we fail, well, you got a choice then.
And I think there's intellectual honesty to both choices.
But I'm glad if you want to call me and tell me what you think is the wisest thing, and that's hold your nose on a couple of issues and vote for Meg, because God knows she's better than Jerry Brown, or um have a little have a little hissy fit.
Sorry.
Let's not telegraph how I feel about it.
You know, go have your toddler tantrum and uh and and uh punish the party by letting Jerry Brown win.
Uh, whatever.
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Always go to Rush Limbaugh.com, uh e even one would say, especially on the days when Rush is it here, because he wants to keep you logged in with everything that's great there at Rush Limbaugh.com.
Um, you know what?
Rather than uh hustle someone along in a in in some kind of uh ungallant way.
Let's do calls here in just a moment.
Mark Davis in for Rush on the EIB network.
Friday Rush Limbaugh Show, Mark Davis filling in to the phones to the phones to wrap up this second of our three hours together.
We're in Long Beach, California.
John, that's you.
Mark Davis in Farush, welcome to the show.
Hi.
Hey, hi, Mark.
Before we get started, uh I just want to ask you real quick, you're from Maryland.
I was born in D.C. too, but I'm from West Virginia.
Do you ever go to many WVU Maryland football games when you were there?
I'm a proud alumnus of the University of Maryland.
I know I heard you say that.
And the first place.
And the well, and here it gets better.
First place I worked in radio was in Charleston, West Virginia.
So I went up to uh up to Morgantown for some W VU games, attended only one uh WVU Maryland game, and that was in Morgantown.
So uh I'm from uh I'm from Parkersburg, West Virginia, if you know where that is.
I do indeed, right up I 77.
I'm at Black Palm Beach, by the way, for Rosh Holly Russell too.
But I want to I I interviewed Rush one time.
Well, that's another I'm a newspaper guy, but I want to get to the point.
I'm a Democrat, uh, a moderate Democrat, a West Virginia Democrat, you know, which all often maybe can be construed as a pro-Union Republican in many ways.
But the the thing about Obama that bothered me and why I think he was bad for us is um is that uh any time a guy runs on change and he's an ill log at the same time, you always worry about change to what.
He was a guy that that Oprah Winfrey put him in office.
You know, he he had a very spectacular I mean well I'm saying in a way she got him started, you know.
And okay, wait a minute.
Let me but he's keep going, it's okay.
He um, you know, he he had a very unspectacular Senate career.
You know, he was running for office three of the four years that he was, you know, he was in in the Senate running for the presidency.
And I was telling I would tell my newspaper buddies this guy's bad for us because he, you know, we really Republicans ran against Jimmy Carter for like at least two elections like that.
well you you had clarity.
You had clarity that a lot of people either didn't have or willfully suspended in order to sign on to the cult of personality, the coolness, the history, the whatever.
I'll talk some more about that in a minute.
Thanks for the call and Mark Davis in for us.
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