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June 4, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 4, 2010, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24 7 podcast.
Thank you.
One headline.
One headline today.
And it's on the biggest story of the day.
It tells you everything you need to know about the Obama administration and what's going on in America.
Founded on the Washington Post Online.
I'm going to read the headline, pause for a second and let this sink in.
This is Drive by Media, mainstream media take on the story.
It's not my spin, it's their headline.
Listen to it and let it sink in.
Economy fueled by census hiring adds 431,000 jobs.
But few positions created in private sector.
Wow.
Economy fueled by census hiring adds 431,000 jobs.
But few positions created in the private sector.
Think about that.
431,000 new jobs created last month.
Almost every single one of them.
A government job.
Most of those jobs, by the way, census, meaning they're temporary.
More on that in a moment.
By the way, that 431,000, imagine how big the number would be if we counted all the jobs that they've offered to Sestack and Romanoff.
Number would be up to about 486,000.
All potential Democratic candidates for the United States Senate, you go apply, we can get that number to 500,000 government jobs.
431,000 jobs created, almost all by government.
As you might guess, President Obama is cheering the news saying, see?
It's working, we're recovering.
The unemployment rate is down to 9.7%.
It's working.
Yeah, it's working.
On the one hand, you can, by the way, the stock market does not like this news at all.
The Dow is known as of right now, about 250 points.
You can make the argument as I'm going to advance that private sector jobs are better than public sector jobs.
But that isn't even the right argument.
The creation of government jobs is not a good thing.
We'd be better off if government was creating no government jobs.
The people who want to turn us into a European-style socialist state think that it's a spectacular thing.
They think that their notion of an economic recovery is government going out and hiring a lot of people so they all work for government.
There's a problem with that.
We are spending government money like crazy.
We have a federal deficit this year that is several times larger than the biggest one in American history.
We have a national debt that I think today crossed $13 trillion.
That debt and that that deficit and that debt is paid for by taxpayers.
And every time we create a government job, we expand the burden on taxpayers.
Who do they think pays for these government jobs?
In the private sector, a business's revenues and profits sustain their employment base.
There's only two ways to pay for a government job through taxes or through borrowing money.
Two things the Democrats are very, very good at.
Taxes and borrowing money.
Let's just take the average average government job, 45,000 dollars a year.
That $45,000 comes from taxes.
To pay that person's pay, you need several private sector jobs to create enough income taxes to pay the $45,000 of the person who works for government.
So this is not good news.
If it was good news that government was doing all of this hiring and therefore the economy is recovering, then the state of California should, instead of laying off all the workers they're laying off, they should hire more people.
New York City, which is bankrupt, ought to hire more people.
South Dakota, Iowa, Georgia, go hire more people.
City of Toledo, Nashville, Cincinnati, hire more people.
put them all in the public payroll.
We'll have no unemployment.
The reason, of course, they can't do that is they don't have the money to do it.
The entire economic approach of this administration is upside down.
We are not only not coming out of the recession, we're creating a fake recovery that portends more trouble for the future.
If all the new jobs created are simply created by expanding the size of government and creating an even greater burden for those remaining of us in the private sector, we haven't fixed anything.
It's all illusory.
These are pretend jobs.
The only thing positive about it is that since most of them are census jobs, they will eventually go away.
Although, given the fact that the president is touting this as being proof that stimulus is working, I can figure out how he can put us into permanent recovery.
Let's just have a census every year and he'll finally have figured out a way to create jobs.
Do another census in 2011 and 12, 13, 14.
Keep counting.
Do nothing but counting.
That way we'll have all sorts of government jobs.
Of the 431,000 jobs, 411,000 came from hiring by the Census Bureau.
Even those numbers are suspect, as many census employees are saying that the Census Bureau is routinely hiring employees, and then after two to three months firing them only to rehire them back so that they can claim new hires.
The census is adamantly denying this, but all over America now we have census workers who are coming forward and claiming that this is what's going on.
Nonetheless, it's clear that the census has hired some people.
Whatever that number is, it's out there and it is real.
But it skews the overall the overall figures, which are dire.
411,000 in the census.
Private sector employers, increase of jobs of 41,000.
That's below the 218,000 private sector jobs in April, and the 180,000 jobs that had been projected.
So what's happening here is private sector job growth is slowing down to almost zero.
You go from 218,000 in April to only 41,000 new jobs created in May.
At that pace, there's going to be negative job growth in the private sector by June.
This economic recovery isn't translating to the private sector.
There are certainly sectors of the American economy that are better off than they were a year or two ago, but the overall economy is not producing new jobs.
A year ago, the president and the Congress passed the stimulus package of nearly one trillion dollars.
Their stated goal was to create jobs and turn the economy around.
But if you take a look at where those stimulus dollars went, almost all of them went to other governments, to local cities, counties, states, schools, public works projects.
All stimulus did was create more jobs that were dependent on government.
These are government jobs and not private sector jobs.
The only way for our economy to grow is when private employers start hiring again.
Because private employers are the ones that pay the taxes.
Public employees get their pay from tax dollars.
Somebody's got to support this economy.
Somebody's got to support this welfare state that this president is creating.
We're going to nationalize health care.
We want to do cap and trade.
We're expanding the size Of all levels of government.
He's running around bragging that he created 400,000 jobs in the government.
Where is the money supposed to come from to pay for those jobs?
Instead of encouraging and taking policies that would encourage private sector hiring, all you have from this administration is one assault on one sector of the private economy after another after another after another.
If it's not the pharmaceutical companies, it's the insurance companies.
If it's not the insurance companies, it's the banks.
If it's not the banks, it's somebody else.
One bad guy after another after another after another.
He loathes private business.
Well, how are we ever going to reduce the deficit?
How are we ever going to get real growth in the American economy?
If the only new jobs being created are government jobs.
This is not a positive development.
It is a negative development.
You will know that the American economy is growing when you start seeing an increase in private sector jobs.
In the meantime, the one thing that the American public has been screaming about for months.
And I'm not going to claim that the Tea Party is about one issue.
It's not.
But if there's anything that unifies the overall Tea Party movement and that group of Americans that sympathizes with it, is they are terrified about the level at which the government is spending and how fast the government is growing.
They see this as not sustainable.
But instead of government backing off, and instead of government showing some restraint, it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
This is a path to nowhere.
It's a path to disaster.
You can't have every single American working for government because then there's nobody to pay their salaries.
As the percentage of American employees who work for private businesses shrinks, and the percentage of American employees who work for government expands, it means that those in the private sector have to keep paying more and more and more because there are fewer of them to pay the increasing number of public employees.
We are losing all sorts of ground here.
40,000 new private jobs, 411,000 new public jobs, and this is the thing he brags about.
This is the worst news that you can imagine.
Government has expanded.
Government has gotten even more costly.
The deficit's going to grow even more.
Now I understand.
But they don't pay anything near their own salaries.
If they did, none of them would take the jobs.
So the amount of money that you lose every time you create a government job is not at all made up by the taxes that that public employee pays.
This is negative job creation.
This is a transfer of wealth from the private sector to the public sector, and it is not sustainable.
The economy is not recovering in terms of employment growth.
Private sector hiring is stagnant.
In the meantime, the massive enormous government bureaucracy is getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and this president is caught claiming this as a victory.
There's a reason the stock market is tumbling today.
Investors don't invest in government.
They invest in growth in American businesses.
And they don't see that growth, and they see American consumers stuck in a mire in which their only chance for new employment is by going to work for their fellow taxpayers.
I believe this report is terrible, and it's an indication that rather than getting some sort of message from the American public that the government needs to slow its growth, that President Obama is taking us on a freight train, but doesn't have any passengers on it to pay for it.
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My name is Mark Belling, and I'm sitting in for Rush Limbaugh on EIB.
I'm Mark Belling, one of the three Marks that occasionally fills in for Rush.
I'm the one from Milwaukee.
Hey, before we get to calls on this, I've got a big, big deal coming up.
In the second hour today, we're going to be joined by Congressman Paul Ryan, Some of you who follow this stuff closely know who he is.
He's a congressman from my own my own home state, Wisconsin.
He has become the leader of the Republican Party on entitlement reform, health care, and other issues.
I think he's the ideological leader of the party right now.
He's the guy that came up with a Republican roadmap to deal with entitlement reform, health care, and so on.
What I want to talk to him about is whether or not Republicans can get anywhere this fall and in 2012 by simply saying no, no, no, to Obama, or if they need to propose an alternative.
He argues there has to be an alternative.
You can't just tell the American public we don't like this.
There's got to be a direction that they can grab onto.
He's going to be on at the beginning of the second hour today.
He's really good.
I've talked to him many times on my own program in Milwaukee, and I think you're going to be fascinated by what he has to say.
We're discussing the new jobs report.
Lots and lots of government jobs almost all with the census.
Very few in the private sector.
Let's go to Chicago and Don.
Don, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Mark Belling.
Go ahead, Don.
Hello.
Hi, you're on, Don.
Oh, thanks.
Uh, Mark, you asked earlier uh where do these people think the money comes from for these government programs.
This morning on the Don Wayton Roma show in Chicago on WLS, the head of the Chicago Teachers Union, they want to extend the length of uh the school day by two hours.
When asked where all this extra money is going to come from to pay for this, she said uh it's gonna be from government grants, and Don Way said, Well, that's taxpayer money, and she said, No, that's not taxpayer money, that's federal grant money.
She's an educator.
She's an educator.
I mean, this is this whole notion that somehow government can create all of these jobs by spending all of this money.
There's a source for this money.
This is the reason we are in the mess that we are in right now.
We have a national deficit that is several times larger than anything that occurred during the Bush years.
It's the largest in American history.
The national debt has gotten to be enormous, and it's strangling this economy, and it is terrifying for our future.
We can't try to get ourselves out of the recession by simply putting everybody on the government payroll because it begs the question of who's going to support that payroll.
You've got to have private sector jobs, and we are doing nothing right now, public policy-wise to create them.
Thanks for the call, Don.
Let's go to Sheboygan, Wisconsin, and Dennis.
Dennis, you're on EIB.
Go ahead, Dennis.
Oh, hi.
I uh I'm calling from Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
And uh my effective tax rate is 20%.
If uh it would take five of me at that using that logic, it would take five of me to pay for one public employee.
And that's just to break even and only pay that employee, never mind what you're paying for your local schools, for your local fire department, your state income taxes, the American federal, everything else the government does, never mind what goes into all the entitlement programs and supporting the military, five times your five individual private employees just to pay for the creation of one government job without doing anything to cut into all of the debt that we already have.
So you can see how the creation of all these government jobs doesn't do anything to create growth in the economy, it just makes the burden even greater.
Right.
It would, you know, the way I look at it is until we get to a four-to-one ratio, we're not gonna get off the slippery slope.
Well, and we're in a reverse ratio.
411,000 government jobs, 41,000 private sector jobs.
We're one to nine going the wrong way here.
It's frightening.
To pay for these census work.
To pay for the census work.
Well, and Obama say and Obama is saying, look, these are temporary jobs.
We understand that.
But that means that his gains that he's citing here are going to go away as well.
So even if you reduce the unemployment rate artificially by putting all these people on the government payroll, they're going to go right back onto the unemployment lines unless we get something going in the private sector to, you know, to produce jobs.
And there's no policy that he's enacted that into That induces anybody to create a job.
If you're a private employer, what confidence do you have right now that you should go out and expand your workforce?
If you expand your workforce right away, you're you're dealing with people that you have to pay for under the health care plan.
If you're a small business that doesn't provide health health insurance to its employees, these are all people that you're going to have to pay the government fine for not having health care.
So you don't have any incentive to go out and create those jobs.
None whatsoever.
So if you are, thanks for the call.
If you are a private employer, what message is the government sending you that says we want you to create a new job?
They're not getting that message at all.
And I think the president realizes this.
So he's just going to run around and tout every new government job that's out there, even though it doesn't mean we're headed to recovery, and it just exacerbates the problem, which is the government is way too big.
I'm Mark Elling sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
Here's the problem with liberals and these liberals in particular, the really liberal ones, the radicals, getting power.
They're actually able to do the things that they believe in.
They've never been able to abide the private sector.
They hate it.
None of them work in the private sector.
The closest they come to it is some of them who work at private universities.
Private sector people, they look down their noses at capitalism.
They don't believe in the free market.
They think that anybody whoever makes it whoever makes money who makes it in the private sector is a greedy guy who cheated his way to the top.
It's not surprising, therefore, that they focus all of their efforts on unemployment growth on public sector jobs.
The problem is that that doesn't help the economy.
It harms the economy.
We have too many people working for government.
It's the reason why government is such a huge share of GDP.
It's the reason why the state of California is broke.
The state of California has massive numbers of people working for government and they don't have enough taxpayers to support them.
We're seeing the same thing happen now with the federal government.
Let's look inside these numbers here.
Uh quoting from the Washington Post, some sectors that had just started adding jobs are now losing them.
Construction employers added a combined 41,000 jobs in March and April after long declines, reflecting a boost to home building.
But they shed 35,000 positions in May.
Construction, 41,000 new jobs March and April, gave them almost all of them given back in May.
The thing that's scary about that is that in the northern part of the United States, the construction season starts to pick up in May.
Retailers who have seen a slow but steady rise in sales over the past year, cut 6,600 jobs in May after gaining a combined 41,000 jobs in March and April.
Financial industry employers cut 12,000 jobs, driven by cuts in the real estate sector after adding 2,000 in April.
So whatever good news we got last month is being wiped out.
There's nothing going on right now in terms of private sector job creation, which isn't surprising since the stimulus plan that they touted was aimed almost entirely at public sector jobs.
Norfolk, Virginia, and Steve.
Steve, it's your turn on the Rush Limbaugh program with Mark Belling.
Hey, Mark, uh, I love what you've been saying in the uh, you know, first part of the show here.
You've been vocalizing things that I've been thinking about for quite a while.
If governments could could solve unemployment and stimulate the economy by creating government jobs, why wouldn't President Felipe Calderon just put all the unemployed Mexicans on the government payroll instead of sending them north to work in our private?
Well, but just uh just hire everybody who's unemployed in the United States.
What do we have?
20 million unemployed?
Let's give them all federal jobs.
Problem solved.
Why, you know, if he's going to tout the creation of 400,000 government jobs, why not 800,000?
Why not 1 million 200,000?
Why not 10 million?
Why not 15 million?
Why not 20 million?
Let's have everybody work for the government.
You know, that's been tried.
Socialist countries have been trying that for years.
That's the way the European economies have been modeled.
Have all these state-controlled industries, have everybody working for the government.
It's what they tried in the Soviet Union.
The problem is that there aren't enough taxpayers out there to support this thing.
And the tax, the tax money has to come from the private sector.
Corporate profits, individual profits, individual income growth, people going from being unemployed where they have small income to having a job, be it twenty five thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars, or somebody getting a raise, a salesperson having their commissions going up, getting ninety thousand.
That's where tax money comes from.
What are we doing right now in our economy to encourage that to happen?
We're doing nothing.
I challenge anyone of the apologists for the administration to tell me what we have done to encourage private sector employers to create jobs, and what have we done to encourage income growth?
All we do is simply attack industries one after another after another after another, and we pass a health care bill that is an assault on them.
The health care bill specifically says you must provide health insurance for your employees, and if you don't, we're going you're going to pay a fine.
So if you're a smaller employer, out there on the margins, what message does that give you?
The message you're given is don't hire anybody new because if you do, you have to go out and pay that fine.
If you do, you've got to pay health insurance costs that are probably going to go up.
So in the meantime, we run around and we have this census that has numbers that are very, very dubious.
There are all sorts of people all over the country claiming that they were hired by the census several months ago, fired, only to be rehired.
I think they're rigging the numbers.
The Census Bureau denies that, but then there's no explanation as to why someone would be fired and then rehired by the census.
So that's all you've got is job growth here that is phony to put a great big mask on the fact that the stimulus program did not work and there's no new hiring going on in our economy.
Thank you for the call, Steve.
Carlsbad, California, and John.
John, it's your turn on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Well, I thank you very much.
Um it's you know, it goes a little bit deeper than that.
Um it's not just government jobs.
Fundamentally, and people don't seem to understand this, and now we have somebody who is so ignorant in the White House that he doesn't even understand this.
We have to start selling something of value to another country in order to get some new intrinsic wealth or uh money into this country.
We can't keep you know, you can't collect c commissions on something that's never sold.
You can't just keep moving money around uh in on inflating prices of stock or whatever, um and in over inflating prices of real estate.
Ultimately, we have to produce something in this country and sell it to another country in order to get the um the trade deficit turned around and in order to get some wealth.
I know that, but we have an administration that hates manufacturing.
If we pass the new version of cap and trade, and they haven't come up with a cute name for it yet, the new climate change legislation, which is going to regulate carbon emissions and is going to put all these costs on states that have coal-fired power plants and so on, it's an assault on manufacturing.
The problem with most manufacturing is is that it has costs that government likes to go after.
They they tend to be industries that have emissions.
They tend to be industries that produce things.
They tend to be industries that are employee intensive.
Manufacturing is still something in which you have to have a lot of people involved in the process, and those are all things that the administration has targeted.
I mean, if you want us to go back to being a producer economy, we've got to be willing to give employers any incentive to say that you can do well here.
Instead, we give them every incentive to relocate jobs elsewhere because the cost of doing business is elsewhere.
So is it any wonder why we've got a recovery here in which some indicators have gone up, but that the employment thing is flat.
There's been no improvement in employment in a year.
You're talking about a tenth of a percent here and a tenth of a percent there.
And when you take out the government jobs, nothing.
We did stimulus was passed for the sole purpose of improving the economy, and the economy is not improved.
Am I talking too much, John?
You're preaching to the choir.
Give me your point.
So here's the thing.
If you look at the price of gasoline versus the econom the state of the economy, whatever that means, they seem to be inversely proportional.
The one thing, and I hope that we as Republicans do this.
The one thing that we c the government can do is to get out of the way and to get gas prices down so that that marginal amount of money, which, by the way, my biggest expense right now is gasoline.
Okay, we take that off of everybody.
Well, you probably have one larger expense that you haven't thought of, John.
Your biggest.
No, no, right now that's it, because I can't afford health care, so I just don't buy it.
I know.
Your biggest expense is probably the taxes that you pay.
Thank you for the call, John.
Let's go to Newport Richie, Florida, and Rich.
Rich, it's your turn on EIB.
Hey, Mark, thanks for uh thanks for taking the call.
Um it said a couple of comments.
Uh hark back to um several years ago when um it's the economy stupid was uh was the mantra.
And it seems like we need to get back to that.
Um my call is redundant um because a lot of what I believe has already been said.
Um, although I would disagree in part with the previous caller, and I don't think um President Obama's stupid.
I I think that he's calculating um, well, that's that's the great debate.
Is Obama deliberately wrecking things, or does he does he not have a clue?
Without without trying to figure out his motives, the bottom line is is that his economic approach has been based on putting everybody on one form of dole or another.
It's either expanding entitlements to include health care or expanding government jobs so that people are dependent upon the government for their income.
Now that translates, I suppose, into creating more democratic voters because if you cut public spending, that means you're cutting public jobs, so that can speak to his motivation.
The point that you make, though, about the economy is very, very good.
When Clinton ran in ninety-two, his formula to appeal to the moderates to the middle class with that slogan the Carville pumped again and again and again, it's the economy stupid.
Clinton hammered on the notion of improving the key economy by creating jobs.
I never thought I'd look back at the Bill Clinton's presidency as the good old days, but at least those Democrats understood that their entire political future was based on a strong economy.
This administration is different.
The Clinton administration was run by liberal Democrats.
These people are radicals.
Their notion is to put everybody on a government dole and have government take over and run everything politically.
For him, it's going to be a disaster.
He wants there to be a job recovery in time for the November election so he can turn to the American public and say, say, we're making progress, it's working.
It's not working, and it isn't going to work because you have no economic growth when the only new jobs are out there being supported by taxpayers because their jobs that are created by government itself.
Clinton, I think, understood politically the power of having a growing economy.
Obama either doesn't get it or he doesn't care about it.
Thank you for the call.
My name is Mark Belling, and I'm sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
I'm Mark Belling, sitting in for Rush.
Beginning of the second hour, the next hour, Congressman Paul Ryan on the Republican alternative to the Obama vision for America.
He's going to be on at the beginning of the hour.
I think you're going to like it.
Here's the Associated Press'take on the jobs numbers today.
And if you're joining us here, the economy has 431,000 jobs, almost all of them government jobs.
And of those, almost all of them...
From the census.
The weakness in private hiring rattled Wall Street before the market opened, stock futures tumbled, and bond prices rose as investors sought the safety of U.S. Treasuries.
The unemployment rate, which is derived from a separate survey than the payroll figures, fell to 9.7% from 9.9.
The dip partly reflected 322,000 people leaving the labor force for a variety of reasons.
Counting people who have given up looking for work and part-timers who would rather be working full-time, the underemployment rate fell to sixteen point six percent in May from 17.1 in April.
That reflected fewer people forced into part-time work.
Still, the high underemployment figure shows how difficult it is for job seekers to find work.
The number of people out of work six months or longer reached 6.7 million in May, a new high.
They made up 46% of all unemployed people, also a record high.
Job creation by private companies grew at the slowest pace since the start of the year.
So we've been lectured.
How much time?
The reason it's not working is that almost all of this money was given to school districts to hire more teachers' aides and to communities to hire more people to run this program and grants given to social service agencies to do this good and wonderful thing.
Very little of this money has been put into areas that translate into private sector job growth.
The guy that owns the restaurant with sixteen employees, what's his incentive to hire five more people right now?
Five more people that he's going to have to pay the health care fine on.
Five more people that are that are going to serve customers that are coming from where?
You're only going to have more customers if there's job growth.
We are doing nothing to produce real growth in the American economy.
This is all fake.
Put as many people as you can on the government payroll and claim unemployment is going down, which it only barely is.
Duluth, Minnesota, and Fred.
Fred, it's your turn on EIB.
Thanks for taking my call.
You you you asked for somebody who had some knowledge of whether the stimulus was creating private jobs, and I'm calling to share my experience, and that is here in northern Minnesota, we have quite uh definitely seen uh as a result of the money and the stimulus program, uh stimulus bill that was targeted for uh bridges, public improvements.
We have the expansion of the convention center and and many other improvements up here that would not have happened without those dollars.
Uh those projects are generating construction business for the trades up here, and those are the people who are going to the guy who owns the restaurant and hires and all the exact employees.
To the extent that that's happening, that is a good thing.
But the majority of the stimulus money didn't go in to those kinds of bricks and mortar projects.
That's only been a trickle associated with them.
I'm not denying that when government spends money and it contracts with somebody in the private sector to do something, that some good comes out of it.
But these employment numbers show that the creation of new jobs in the private sector is almost not occurring at all.
It just isn't there.
To the extent to the extent that your convention center is built up there, I suppose that's a good thing, but even then with a public works job, the benefit is only temporary.
What happens when that convention center is built?
What happens when the bridge is finished?
What happens when the road is completed?
What we haven't done is done anything to give an incentive to long-term private employers to expand their workforce and make a five to ten to fifteen to twenty-year commitment in a public employee.
They're not ready to do it because they do not trust the recovery, and they see an administration that wants to penalize them if they do produce any profits or income growth.
Thank you for the call.
My name is Mark Elling, sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
I'm Mark Belling.
431,000 jobs created in May, and they're almost all for the government.
Isn't this great growth?
We're all going to be bureaucrats.
That's the one area that's booming government employee and continues to thrive.
Cincinnati and Chad Chad, it's your turn on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Yeah, my mom used to work for the Census about ten years ago.
She was a successful businesswoman, and she saw so much away, she said it was hilarious and tragic, they couldn't keep their own policies.
In fact, my sister-in-law applied for the training, then quit, then reapplied, and they paid her for the training again, and she quit.
So she she's she's two new jobs right there.
See, that's the scam they've got going.
Every time they hire someone, they report it as a new job.
It doesn't matter how long that job lasts, it doesn't do anything to expand employment.
Now the census keeps denying this, but I'm telling you, all over the country, there are local talk radio hosts, there are bloggers that have found these people who say, I work for the census, they fired me on Friday and said, come back on Monday, I'll rehire you.
I don't know if that's policy or if that's local people for these, you know, local managers trying to make their numbers.
The whole thing with the guide of the census is that even if Obama is claiming that this is a victory, that we have these employment gains, presumably they're actually going to finish this census and it's going to be gone.
The scary thing, without regard to whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, is that while we always have recessions and we always have booms, we don't see any sign right now of real growth.
Stick around in the next hour of the program, Congressman Paul Ryan, he's really good.
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