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June 2, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 2, 2010, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Well, we're happy to welcome back to the program a good friend of mine, Andy McCarthy, who has a uh uh terrific new book out, the title of which is The Grand Jihad, uh Islam and the Left Sabotage America.
Andy, welcome back.
Great to have you here.
But it's Russ, it's an honor to be here.
How are you?
I'm very well.
Now let's let's do some biographical stuff on you uh for people who uh who didn't hear you the last time because I want to get your bona fides out on this.
Uh describe for people very briefly your resume with the uh Southern District of Manhattan, your trial uh and your work prosecuting the blind sheikh, Omar Abdelrahman.
Yes.
Well, I was a federal prosecutor for close to twenty years.
Uh back in nineteen ninety-five, I was the lead prosecutor on one of our first big terrorism cases in uh Manhattan Federal Court.
That was the case against the blind sheikh uh and eleven other jihadists who not only had carried out the bombing of the World Trade Center, but also were plotting something even more ambitious, a simultaneous attack on New York City landmarks, the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, uh the FBI's lower Manhattan headquarters, and the United Nations.
And you should know, Rush, in the event that people don't think terrorists are irrational, the reason that they wanted to take out the UN was because, as we all know, it's a great tool of American foreign policy in the world.
All right, so uh now Mr. McCarthy, uh, ladies and gentlemen, has made uh the study of jihad, uh military Islamism almost uh uh a life's work, and and this book, The Grand Jihad, How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, that's that's a provocative title.
Lumping the left with Islam.
Yeah, well, you know, there are so many historical examples, Rush, of leftists and Islamists working together, and there's so many current examples.
You know, you look at the uh uh Al Qaeda and the litigation that's gone on since 911.
Who's their lawyer in most of those cases?
Well, the Center for Constitutional Rights, which is a leftist radical organization started by Bill Kunzler back in the 60s.
Uh you look at uh the ACLU's uh litigations against the Patriot Act and other national security measures, and they're frequently joined by CARE, the Council on American Islamic Relations.
Uh the uh if we look at the health care debate, one of the organizations that was front and center championing Obamacare was the Moses the uh Muslim Public Affairs Council, which is another uh Islamist organization.
So w we see this.
It's not just, you know, there was some uh uh Khomeini working with the communists to overthrow the Shah, and uh, you know, i it's not as if that happened and that's all there's been.
We've had numerous historical and present examples, and my book really sort of uh tries to explain why that should be taken as a given and then tries to examine why it happens, why it's true.
I read uh I read an interview you gave to Michael Walsh on big government.
I like this first question.
Um after he asked you why you wrote the book, he said, Surely you're overstating the threat to the American way of life from radical Islam.
A lot of people think that that uh th that there's a little bit too much alarmism here.
Yeah, I I think they do, and you know, look, uh to this extent, I think that's a fair criticism.
If somebody said to me, you know, uh uh on a scale of one to ten, what is the threat?
Um I I I have to answer that, you know, it's not gonna happen tomorrow.
Uh this is a very gradual campaign, uh, but it's a very comprehensive campaign.
It's a well thought out one, and what I want people to get out of the book is that it's about a whole lot more than terrorism.
It's uh it's really an assault on the freedom culture on a variety of fronts, legal, social, uh the terrorism is part of it, uh, but it's only one part of the equation.
Well, jihad is is about much more than terrorism.
Uh most people think jihad is just about war.
Uh what is the real objective of jihad?
Well, jihad is always and everywhere about Sharia law, the uh implementation of it, the establishment of it, the defending of it, the vindicating of it.
Sharia law is the Islamic legal code.
Uh It's about a lot more than just uh spiritual elements or you know elements that we in the West would would recognize as as religious.
Uh Islam and its law are a comprehensive uh political, social, and economic program.
And Sharia law is thought in Islamist ideology to be indivisible.
It's a full service legal code to govern all of those matters.
And the reason that jihad is committed, whether it's done by violence or done by other means, uh, is to install sharia.
And the reason that's important is in Islamist ideology, Sharia is thought to be a necessary precondition to Islamiszing a society.
As the Muslim Brotherhood theorists say, uh it's what opens a person's mind and heart uh so that he can receive the truth uh that they regard Islam to be.
It sounds to me like then the uh the inspiration, a motivation these people have in targeting the United States is uh is our culture.
It's not the fact that we support Israel and maybe a factor.
It's not that we've stolen from the world as Obama would like to have everybody believe, that we have plundered the world's resources and made everybody poor.
Uh these people are true believers.
And they really they want to conquer as many continents as they can, not just us, but we're included.
Yeah, we we're included and we're at the top of the list because we're the biggest obstacle, but what they aim at and what they think they are divinely commanded to do uh is nothing less than a global caliphate.
Now that sounds fantastical to us, but I imagine, you know, if somebody had had called us the day before the World Trade Center got bombed in 1993 and said uh, you know, a bunch of knuckleheads from Jersey City are going to blow up that building tomorrow, uh, we'd have probably said, you know, yeah, sure, right, whatever.
Um and now here we are down the road, uh, and a lot of things that seem fantastical have come true, uh, not the least of which is the destruction of the Soviet Union, the destruction of the Twin Towers, an attack on the Pentagon.
Uh so I I I sort of think we ought to take this pretty seriously.
Why is it that, in your opinion, why is it that this is so obvious to some, and yet at the highest levels of our government, it doesn't appear to be obvious, or if it is, they are trying to pretend it isn't.
Why you know Obama bows to the king, Obama bows to every leader, the King of Saudi Arabia.
We can't use the word terrorism uh in describing what these people do.
Uh how do they how is it they miss the threat?
Why are they so eager to appear sympathetic with these people?
Well, Rush, I I I put it in two different categories.
There are well-meaning people who miss the threat for uh what I think is an analytical mistake.
They think that if they acknowledge what should be undeniable, which is that there is a nexus between Islamic doctrine and terrorism committed by Muslims and the wider civilizational threat uh to the West, if they acknowledge that nexus, that necessarily means we have to be, as they put it, at war with Islam, that we actually have to be in a almost a shooting war with 1.4 billion people.
Now that that seems like uh an absurdly irrational uh overreaction to me, but I do think that a lot of people believe that in good faith.
Then there's another category of people uh who I think are mainly leftist, and for them, denying the the uh connection between Islamist ideology and terrorism and the broader threat to the West is strategic.
Uh if you take out what really causes terrorism and this threat, uh then they can say that it's a policy problem.
It's uh, you know, the American policy in the Middle East, it's Israel, it's gidmo, it's cartoons, it's whatever it is.
But usually, uh not usually, always, uh the the policies that they identify just happen to be the policies that the left most despises.
So uh for them I think it's a strategic thing.
Andy McCarthy is our guest, he is the author of the grand jihad, how Islam and the left sabotage America.
Looking at the flotilla, this this controversy now that has enveloped Israel, which is uh a typically uh fabricated controversy, something planned to achieve this exact result.
Doesn't that kind of make your point uh the flotilla and look at the people who are funding people on that flotilla as to demonstrate the ties the left has with Islam?
Yeah, I I I think it does.
It's to me it's the uh I write about the flying Imams incident in the book.
This is like the flying imams writ large or the uh or the international version of the flying Imams.
This seems like uh it was an obviously premeditated provocation.
Uh it's done and orchestrated by an outfit that has been basically a designated terrorist organization under American law since two thousand eight, and it's done on behalf of a designated terrorist organization since nineteen ninety-five, Hamas, which exists solely for the purpose of destroying Israel.
And that's not me inferring that, uh that's me simply reading the Hamas charter.
Uh so this is obviously, I think, an orchestrated incident such that the media really had the narrative out there almost before the incident was completed.
Well, obviously, because this fits I mean, it's it's it's a storyline, it's a narrative, it's a template.
Well, the whole thing was organized to achieve precisely this result, because they're fully a well uh well aware that the press will follow along like lamp dogs, much like the photoshopped fixtures of the uh uh the rockets coming out of Israel, the damage they were doing in uh in uh in Lebanon back during that war.
Look at Andy, the uh uh this the question I've always wondered about, we have leaders uh in this country and throughout the world who refer to Islam as a uh religion of peace.
Yet you talk about jihad and and sharia law, which makes it seem that their central purpose is a war to make the whole world Islamic.
So I'm I'm personally confused over are there divisions of Islam, or is it all one thing oriented toward the same objective?
Yeah, I Islam Rush, I think is very um diverse.
Uh what we need to understand is the the movement that I'm talking about, Islamist ideology uh is much more mainstream than we'd like to think.
And if you you actually have to, I think, go along a trajectory of different questions.
If if the question is put to the Muslim world, uh, do you think it's okay to kill even Muslims who don't subscribe to our uh construction of Islam?
That is a fringe position in the Muslim world, and that's a big part of Al Qaeda ideology, and it's a big part of why people are able to sort of marginalize them as violent extremists.
Uh but let's change the question a little bit.
If you asked, would you like to live under uh a strict Sharia code, uh do you think the United States Constitution should be replaced by Sharia?
Do you think it's okay to attack Americans operating inside Islamic countries even if they think they're on a humanitarian mission?
Or do you think Israel should be destroyed?
The percentages when you look at those questions, and this is polling that was done in in 2007, uh uh which was pretty expansive across the Islamic world, uh, those aren't ten percent positions.
Those are like, you know, sixty, seventy, eighty percent positions depending on which country you ask the question in.
Sixty to seventy percent?
Like, for example, eighty percent of people in Pakistan said in a two thousand seven poll that they would like to see uh a strict imposition of Sharia law, and that they thought the world should live under a global caliphate.
That's a mainstream position in Sunni Islam.
Um I gotta take a break here, but I want to re I want you to repeat for people something you've told me often uh during your defense of the blind sheikh, you you became an expert in Islam, and you were so uh a little shocked and surprised at what you found.
Uh we gotta take a break.
Andy McCarthy, the Grand Jihad is the book, and we'll be right back and more right after this.
And welcome back to the most listened to radio talk show in the country, Rush Limbaugh with Andy McCarthy and his new book, The Grand Jihad, how Islam and the Left Sabotage America.
I remember you telling me you're prosecuting the uh the blind sheikh, and you've described all of the uh plans that he had.
You were searching for any evidence that the guy was a fringe radical.
Yeah.
And he wasn't.
Right.
We were as a government, we were saying at the time that uh, you know, he was representative of a of a false Islam, that he was lying about Islam, that he was perverting the doctrine.
And I sort of felt that, you know, I uh I'm a Irish guy from the Bronx.
So I was not going to get myself in a in a theological debate with a doctor of Islamic jurisprudence graduated from Alazar University.
But I did think that if what we were saying was true, there had to be two or three or four places where I could really nail them on saying, you know, you say this X, but the doctrine says why.
And the problem is that when you comb through his statements, every time he quoted from the Quran or some other source of scripture, it turned out that he was quoting it accurately.
Now, you know, the Quran says a lot of other things too.
And it's a fair argument.
I don't think it's a particularly persuasive one, but it's a fair argument that you could say he took things out of context, or that uh, you know, there are other verses that he omitted that need to be considered in conjunction with what he did say.
Um but that aside, when he quoted the scripture, he quoted it absolutely accurately.
Now let's tie it all back together with uh with your point here, which in the in the new book is that there is an alliance, either by accident or by design, militant Islam with the left, not just in America, but around the world.
I was I read the other day uh uh article in the UK Guardian.
There are more than eighty-five Sharia courts already in the United Kingdom in Great Britain.
Right.
So it's something it's real, it is something that's happening.
Uh Andy, I have during the campaign of two thousand eight, I was struck.
Uh I listened to Mahmood Ahmadini Zad practically parrot Democrat Party talking points about George W. Bush and the Republicans.
Uh and I I I think you you nailed it earlier.
People just don't think this can happen to us.
Yeah, I I think that's right, and it is happening.
Uh it's it's actually a strategy that um that Hassan Albana, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, came up with in the in the twenties and has been refined uh by other Islamist thinkers over the years.
Some call it voluntary apartheid, uh, but the idea is that you um you basically have Muslims who move into enclaves in areas which are not Islamic countries.
And what they try to do, either by persuasion, extortion, sometimes by terrorism, uh is persuade the authorities that they should be able to conduct some of their affairs at least, say domestic relations, uh property uh transactions and the like under Sharia law.
So they they take over territory physically uh and they get Sharia at least in part legitimized in the legal code, and then they build out from there.
Uh Bana's movement was very much a ground up movement.
It started with the Muslim individual, moved out to the family, the community, the town, etcetera.
But the idea is always and everywhere to spread the influence of Islam by spreading Sharia.
Now, is our is our strategy, say, in Afghanistan or and or Iraq, uh, in your estimation, an effective way of fighting this?
Well, it it depends on what part of it.
I think that uh, you know, we absolutely have to kill or capture terrorists um uh who are trying to project power against us.
And you know, on that score, I think uh I have to tip my hat to Obama.
He's obviously um, you know, conducted the at least the the drone war uh against Al Qaeda effectively.
We will uh we will edit out this praise of Obama in the replay of this program this afternoon.
Well, I you know, I think that's part of you know, the the Muslim Brotherhood is ready to throw Al Qaeda overboard too.
This is actually, I think a pretty sophisticated strategy.
Obama has domestic political reasons to want to go after Al Qaeda aggressively, and he's not gonna lose any props uh in the Islamic world.
Really?
Okay, that's interesting.
Yeah, I don't think so I I think that what you're seeing, Rush, is the vibrant debate in the Muslim world now among Islamists is whether terrorists have outlived their usefulness at least in you know in attacking the United States.
They might be running out of suicide bombers.
I mean it's a weapon you can only use once.
Well, there is that, although the the most effective ones always want to live to fight another day.
Right.
Um but I I do think that um, you know, in Muslim Brotherhood circles, what they would argue is they're making so much progress marching through our institutions, much like the left did, that they get a blowback when there's a a terrorist attack against the United States that's counterproductive.
Um so uh you know, I think Obama, who's a shrewd guy, uh sees that the Islamists in some ways are ready to throw Al Qaeda overboard, at least some of the time it seems that way.
Uh and it's a good strategy for him because, you know, if he can get bin Laden, for example, uh that might change his uh electoral fortunes, or at least So you um you you've written the book, Obviously, with the thought that there's still time uh to stop this, what's your remedy?
What's your recipe?
What would you suggest the best way to go about it?
Well, I think the first thing that has to happen is we have to realize that it's going on.
We have to see that it's it's happening to us.
This is not something I'm making up.
They're telling us they have a civilizational uh struggle strategy.
Uh they're telling us that they're engaged in a g in as they put it, a grand jihad to sabotage the United States and the West from within.
Uh people need to know that's going on.
I think right now they don't.
We we won't even acknowledge that that's the cause of terrorism, uh, let alone this uh broader threat.
I think with respect to the to the terrorists, uh we have to continue to go after them aggressively.
But with respect to this broader and more insidious challenge, we have to be ready to use every means at our disposal, whether it's uh legal means, social, political, uh just persuasion and pressure, uh, to recognize that we're under a threat uh and and make it okay again to argue for a freedom culture, which is uh which is what makes us America.
Andy McCarthy in the book is uh the Grand Jihad, How Islam and the Left Sabotage America.
I've got about thirty seconds.
Have you gotten any uh threats or any sort of negative reaction?
Uh anybody trying to intimidate you yet?
No, I I've gotten uh, you know, there's negative reaction to the book.
I didn't exactly write the the left and the Islamist a love letter, so you sort of expect that.
And you know, as for the rest of it, uh that die was cast long ago in my case, so I don't really pay it much mind in the well, that's true.
I mean, when you prosecute the blind shake, you can't go much farther than that.
Well, Andy, thanks very much, and good luck with this.
Um it's uh it it's great that you did the work, and I know that your family is going to be extremely proud of you for this son growing up reading this book.
It's uh it's a great work, folks, and it's well worth your time.
Andy, thanks for yours.
And we'll be right back.
Sit tight, folks.
And we're back on a cutting edge of societal evolution.
And I just was reminded of something that I uh I was remiss in not getting Andy McCarthy to expound upon.
Maybe we can get him back for that.
We've got his phone number.
And I think this would be why don't you I'll wait if we can get him back.
Uh I want to ask about something going on in New York, but it does not illustrate exactly what he was talking about.
Uh while Snerdley tries to re-establish contact with Andy.
I have to tell you during the break I watched Benjamin Netanyahu.
He just concluded uh addressing the media about the uh circumstances of the past three or four days with this so-called peace-loving love boat flotilla.
And he just kicked butt in this speech.
I it was it was a uh it was just dramatically great.
Uh he said Israel is presumed guilty until proven guilty.
He said he asked the world leaders that he's spoken to.
What would you do if your cities were being daily rained on with rockets?
What would you do?
Why are you holding us to a different standard?
He says they all know the truth.
We had Andy back.
Andy, I should have asked you this.
I'm glad if I'm glad I was reminded of this.
They're building a mosque near nine eleven.
Right?
A giant mosque in the shadows of nine eleven.
That mosque might be built before the World Trade Center is rebuilt.
Now, everybody associated with the mosque says, no, no, no, this is not about anything but but goodwill and and outreach.
What's your take on this mosque?
What what if the purpose of this mosque is indeed to get a foothold of Sharia in New York City, right there near ground zero?
Is it possible?
Yeah, it's got Rush, I think this has all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Uh it's supposed to be named the Cordoba Islamic Center, as I understand it.
Cordoba was the name of the caliphate that uh conquered Spain and uh ruled it uh often brutally for about uh half a millennium, actually longer than that.
Uh the guy behind the project uh is someone who has said that he would like to see uh Sharia law uh more insinuated into American law.
Uh the Islamist strategy is largely a propaganda strategy at this stage.
The thought of, you know, having a mosque erected over the ruins of two of the great pillars of uh the Western economy and Western civilization would be an enormous propaganda victory.
And the most perverse thing of all is the thought that it's being done in the name of tolerance.
Uh, you know, we have to have the mosque because otherwise we're intolerant.
We have twenty three hundred plus mosques in the United States.
There are probably a couple of hundred in the New York area.
If you went to Mecca and Medina, you not only wouldn't see a Christian church or a Jewish synagogue, you wouldn't see a non Muslim.
They're closed cities.
Non Muslims are not allowed to enter.
Uh and yet we're told that we have to have this mosque in this place, uh, where Muslim terrorists relying on a construction of the Koran mass murdered thousands of Americans.
It's it's an ob it's an affront uh not only to to uh to to common sense, uh, but it would be a major victory for the enemy in an ongoing war.
And w uh you know, we ought to remind people we're still at war.
All right.
Now, something that always f fascinates me in in monitoring and studying the left is motivation.
I have a lot of people say that doesn't matter, Rush, they gotta be stopped, no matter why they're doing it.
I'm still fascinated by it.
In New York, some city council or some regional uh uh the part of the the downtown council, whatever, the vote was almost unanimous to allow this to happen.
Now, I think it was forty to one or forty-nine to one, whatever it was.
How how how does this happen?
What is there a guilt complex that has overtaken these people?
Is it fear?
Or do they actually buy into this notion that hey, you know, my this might actually bring peace between our peoples?
Uh I think what you have there, Russian, we don't know who were behind these community board members.
I think the vote was twenty-nine to one.
Twenty nine to one, okay.
Um but the they would it was not reflective of what the the actual feeling of the rank and file in the community is.
And I think this is being driven by leftists, by Islamists, and frankly by useful idiots who, you know, whether we had twenty three hundred or twenty three thousand mosques in the United States, if we said that you couldn't build a single one on that site, um they would say we were intolerant.
And as far as I'm concerned, with those people, why bother?
They're just not uh they're beyond convincing.
So what's the point?
And this is a huge mosque, right?
There's not just some neighborhood.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes, absolutely.
It's uh I think it's uh the site was a Burlington coat factory, and now they're planning to turn it into a mega mosque.
Fifteen stories high this thing is going to be, is I think I think I read.
Yes, and and you're quite right to say that it's uh that it would be built.
They uh before the Trade Center is rebuilt, the trade center is still a big old hole in the ground.
Right.
They expect to get this thing up and running on the tenth anniversary of nine eleven.
This is mind boggling.
If it it's like so much of everything else the left is doing in this country, they're telegraphing it, they're telling us what they're gonna do, they're showing us what they are doing, and people still have their heads in the sand over it.
This this though takes the cake.
I I think so.
I can't imagine something uh m more reprehensible.
And that you know, I think this is even offensive uh in many ways to well-meaning Muslims who don't want this problem.
You know, they they see in common sense that that's not a good spot for a mosque.
Andy, thank you again.
I'm glad you were still by the phone when we uh when we reached out for a second time.
This, by the way, unprecedented.
We have never gone back and asked a guest to come back immediately concluding the interview for a second question.
I'm at your service, sir.
All right, Andy McCarthy, the Grand Jihad's the book, and uh thanks once again.
Now, people have been waiting on the hold or on the phone, on hold for quite a while, and we've taken uh one call, and it was a theory on the Al Gore uh uh Tipper Gore divorce and had to be an affair going on, which uh I as host Well, you have to have a willing you have to have a willing conspirator here in that it just doesn't I don't know, it's it's not something you can see out there.
Uh we have Millicent from Bolka Raton.
She'd been waiting the longest.
Great to have you on the phone, Millicent.
Thank you for waiting.
Thank you, uh Mr. Enjoy your program.
I was a little confused when I heard that um Barack Obama was going to Chicago for vacation over Memorial Day and leaving, you know, all the the celebr the uh ceremonies and such at um Arlington in Washington DC, you know, it wasn't like he was going to Martha's Vineyard or Hawaii.
I didn't understand Chicago until I heard on the um on the news, I was listening to CNBC, they were saying that the Blogovich trials are starting, and I didn't know if maybe he went to Chicago for some pre trial um strategy sessions or such because I understood that he was possibly going to be asked to speak,
and in light of the SESTAC um incidents that have come up, it seems like it may be plausible he might have been involved if he was willing to ask a former president to get involved in a senatorial election.
Well, I it is.
Um what Millicent told Snerdley when she when she uh called him, he put a he puts the slug line to give me an idea what the caller wants to talk about.
He says, Who the hell goes to Chicago for vacation?
Uh that's Millicent said that she's in Boca Raton.
You have to understand, keep things in perspective.
Now, uh, but that is Obama's home.
But it's interesting.
Michael Barone makes the point he has no ties to Chicago.
None whatsoever, other than Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright, of all the places Obama could have chosen to live, why Chicago?
It makes no sense because i Barone even makes the point that even if you're born and bred in Chicago, if you're not part of the machine, you don't get in it.
You you you uh it's a very, very closed club, and outsiders very seldom get it.
He got in it.
Uh, and he got in it very deep.
He Senate, then uh the United States, Senate, and now President of the United States is taking the Chicago way there.
This Blogoevich thing is i it is interesting, but you know, Bulgoych is a lot of bluster.
Uh he's he's been talking big, but there really doesn't seem to be much behind his um much much solid behind his defense.
The Sestac thing, this could be a huge, huge problem.
This is bribery.
There's no other way around it.
Whatever he was promised was a job he was not qualified for or eligible for under the law.
Uh when you get Bill Clinton involved, take the heat here.
Uh which is understandable, you gotta get a guy who's willing to commit perjury uh in order to to take the uh the flak on this.
So clearly uh there there's there's there's concern in the White House over this Sestack thing.
You can tell that by the way, Gibbs continues to answer questions about it as to whether Obama went to Chicago to try to get his story straight with lawyers over what might happen with Globoyovich, uh Blogoevich.
I just think it's a damn shame that we as citizens have to conjure up these theories to explain the actions of our president.
Don't you, Millicent?
Well, he's so calculated in everything he does.
Um that it was just too like, why is he going to Chicago?
And then this came up on the news today, and I was like, I you know, how it would just seemed too uh too much of a connect, and I I'm gonna do it.
Yeah, well, look, I think this is when I decided to wonder.
Here's here's what you have to know about it.
This is this is I think the simplest way to understand Obama going to Chicago.
Uh it's just a subtle message to Blogoyevitch.
It's just just showing up is a think of it, think of it as the horse's head in the bed in the Godfather.
Exactly.
That's what that Blogoevich is supposed to realize if he doesn't play ball here, he could wake up and see his own head in the bed.
And Obama's trip to Chicago was to send that message.
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I know both says get to the point real quick, but I want to digress.
Last time we spoke was four four years ago, come November, and I was on food stamps feeding four people on the uh budget for two.
And you offered me an AP pack, and I couldn't accept it because my freezer was full.
You also told me to follow my passions for a job, which is alpine skiing, and within two weeks for the past four winners, I've been co-managing a ski shop.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Congratulations, sir.
All right, anyway, I got a degree in environmental science, and this oil spill could have been stopped probably 30 plus days ago by simply drilling another well into the bedrock below the seafloor, not that far.
A low-yield nuclear weapon would have closed that off within an instant.
In fact, there's a little known fact that in the former Soviet Union in the late 60s, they did just exactly that with a gas well that went amok.
And in fact, there's even a YouTube video showing this.
It's just amazing, and I got a feeling the only reason they haven't done this is because of the three to four hundred million that they would probably lose for the existing well.
But in the meantime, they're they're have the possibility of even polluting the eastern seaboard.
It just uh is amazing if the Obama administration.
I hadn't heard that.
The Soviet the Soviets nuked a gas well.
Yeah.
Back in the late 60s with an underground explosion, and there are many scientists, if you uh Google this they uh would say this would work, and I would concur if having a degree in environmental science.
Uh well, there's another reason, uh, and and I look at I don't say this lightly, and I'm not saying this to try to be humorous.
But I think I think there's a reason why the Obama administration is not doing anything more look at look at what they are doing.
What are they doing?
They are talking, they're having meetings and they're threatening British petroleum.
Look at BP's stock.
There is now a legitimate question whether this company will survive.
Now, I don't I don't know what your thoughts on that are.
I mean, some of you might think BP needs to go out of business.
I but this administration's bringing it about by announcing criminal investigations at this stage of the game.
Did you see what happened to stock market when Holder made this announcement yesterday?
It plunged over a hundred points in a matter of minutes.
And BP went down to the cellar.
I mean, it's this is this is frankly absurd.
Now, why?
Well, if you know, maybe, I don't know this, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are some internal polls in the White House and the DNC that show the spill is helping Obama with conventional wisdom is he's looking inept and incompetent here.
But maybe, maybe, I'd hope this isn't true, but maybe they've got some polling data that shows it's still helping him.
And that's why he hasn't made an effort to plug the hole.
Um look at it's a wild guess, but I don't doubt for a second that the reason they're delaying Bobby Gindle is because he's a Republican.
And they don't want a Republican doing anything that looks like it succeeds or is working.
Make no folks, this is the most partisan bunch of people.
If you think, let me just put it to you this way.
If you think they think America first, where have you been the last year and a half?
They think Obama first.
They think regime first.
They think advancing their agenda first.
The National Security Strategy paper that I talked about.
Mike Gerson writes about in the Washington Post.
The national security strategy is nothing more than an indictment of the U.S. domestic policy under previous regimes, previous administrations, and how the Obama regime's got to fix it, because fix it because that's making us vulnerable to threats to uh national security.
Uh now this claim about the um the Russians using nukes is from a recent article in uh Pravda, a new version of uh of Pravda.
And they said that they used nukes five times to uh stop gas and uh and oil leaks.
Interesting.
I'm gonna find this out.
Uh we'd have to dig into the rock on it.
We'd destroy the well.
I mean, that'd be the end of the well if you did that.
But it would have stopped the leak, too, there's no question.
You know, I'm I'm uh folks, I'm not altogether convinced on this nuke business, the Ruskies, they can't even drill an oil well without our help.
Uh and if they if they set off five nukes, even low-yield nukes, seismologists would pick that stuff up, and we are constantly monitoring.
Well, we did before Obama anyway.
Uh, we're constantly monitoring for any kind of seismic activity, nuclear testing anywhere.
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