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April 13, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 13, 2010, Tuesday, Hour #3
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Hiya, folks, and welcome back.
It's a great pleasure to have you with us on the Rush Limbaugh program here at the EIB Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
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We now rejoin our caller, a lawyer, an attorney from Pensacola, who has read the student loan provision of the health care bill and gave us a little bit of a profile or preview of what's in it.
And let me just sum up what you said.
Basically, and I've got a couple sections of it here myself.
I did this during the break.
Now, what I found was in exchange for two to four years of service in a National Health Service Corps approved site in a health professional shortage area of greatest need, tuition fees, other reasonable education costs and living stipends, students and training all be paid for.
So they're already telling doctors where they're going to go if they accept loan money from the federal government as program.
That's right.
Well, what it is is it's an existing program which has a num a number cap on it.
There's only a few people that can go through it.
It basically is recruiting tools of the National Health Service under the Surgeon General.
The uniform guys look like Navy guys.
But what the existing what this legislation does is it removes that cap entirely.
And to emphasize how important it is to their program, it's one of the few provisions of the bill that has dedicated funding in this law.
It runs over about seven or eight year period.
I don't have it in front of me, but it runs from about 350 uh million dollars in funding this uh this coming fiscal year through like one point two billion dollars in funding and escalating over that period, seven or eight years out.
Okay, so the upshot of this is what?
The upshot is that if they're gonna fund the uh all the student loans and have the ability to leverage funding over both the students, they'll have a dedicated personnel source for their community health care clinics, and moreover, they'll be able to leverage that funding in terms of controlling the curriculum and moreover, the specialties are the numbers of people who are trained in specialties in medical schools.
Meaning, in all practical purposes, archaeologists or whoever.
Oh, yeah.
But what the the bottom line here is is that the vast majority of medical students cannot pay for all of the years of medical education themselves.
They're gonna have to take out student loans.
The student loan program now runs through the government.
When you do that, you are accepting an obligation made to the government that they can put you wherever they want you and put you in whatever specially they want you in exchange for funding your education.
Exactly right.
It's basically the Cuban model, and it's in this bill.
And that's something that has gotten very little attention.
I did uh uh spend some time looking it up during the break.
Eric, thanks much uh for holding on and summing this up.
I really uh appreciate it.
The National Health Service Corps, which is, or as Obama would say corpse, uh, which is what Eric's talking about here, loan repayment program provides fifty thousand dollars or the outstanding balance of qualifying student loans, if it's less than fifty thousand dollars, tax-free to primary care, medical, dental, and mental health clinicians in exchange for two years of service at an approved site in a health professional shortage area.
Upon completion of the service commitment, clinicians may be eligible to apply for National Health Service Corps additional support for extended service.
That's how you pay off your student loan to become a doctor.
And as I pointed out out there, just moments ago.
The number of years required to become a doctor such that very few can pay for it themselves.
Almost everybody is gonna have to go through the student loan program unless they want to go to a bank.
You can still do that.
You still go to the bank and not have any of these federal obligations.
Yeah, you need equity if you're gonna have to have something collateral for the loan.
There's no question.
Most people are gonna have to go to the government-run loan program.
Doctors and non-doctors, students of any education are gonna have to go to the government plan.
If you go to if you're gonna be a doctor, it does appear in this bill.
We're looking at the at the paragraphs even now to back up what Eric said here on the phone.
That you are going to be required to pay off your loan, not just financially, But also by certain numbers of years of service, up to six, in what are called health professional shortage areas.
HPSAs.
I wonder how many people know this.
There's already Drudge already has a story up here.
U.S. faces severe doctor shortage.
And there's a Wall Street Journal piece on this today, is that maybe the same thing.
And this is this is it doctor shortage exists now.
More and more doctors are deciding to get out of the program.
We heard a couple call yesterday.
And if the program does indeed insure all these 32 million that aren't insured, even if it takes the 2019 to do it, by definition, if you don't have more doctors into the system by then, we're gonna have a doctor shortage.
So every day, we learn something about this bill that just screams repeal, repeal, repeal.
And Obama, I think is gonna ratchet this up.
Uh this is uh he's he's put money into this uh directly into the program.
It's directly funded.
It's even mentioned, as Eric pointed out.
Cuban doctors now say they are slaves.
Remember the story we had not long ago of these Cuban doctors that defected?
More and more Cuban doctors are defecting, and this is why.
Because they work at the pleasure of the Castro regime.
And future doctors in this country apparently are gonna be working at the pleasure of the Obama regime because they're gonna have no choice but then to accept loans from the regime.
It's that simple.
As I mentioned, opponents of the Tea Party movement say that they plan to infiltrate and dismantle the political group by trying to make its members appear to be racist, homophobic, and moronic.
Now, this is uh an AP story.
Now we gotta wait and see here what happens.
A lot of Tea Parties around the country on April 15th, tax day.
Jason Levin, creator of CrashTheParty.org, said yesterday the group has 65 leaders in major cities across the country who are trying to recruit members to infiltrate Tea Party events for April 15th, when Tea Party groups across the country are planning to gather and protest high taxes.
Every time we have someone on camera saying that Barack Obama isn't an American citizen, we want somebody sitting next to him saying that's right, he's an alien from outer space.
Tea Party members said the backlash comes from ignorance.
They can't actually debate our message, and that's their problems at Bob McGuffey, Connecticut organizer for right principles at Tea Party group, but also has members in New York and New Jersey.
I remember McGuffey, he is one of the early guys, uh Tea Party founders, Tea Party movement generally unites on the fiscally conservative principles of smaller government, lower taxes, and less spending.
Now, here's here's what to look for.
The AP itself has run a story saying that a bunch of rabble rousers are going to infiltrate the Tea Parties for the purposes of making him look racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, moronic.
They have told us this.
The AP is well aware that this uh Crash the Party guy has a website encouraging people to infiltrate the Tea Parties.
Let's just see what happens on Thursday at all these Tea Party protests around the country.
What do you bet that one of these miscreants infiltrates one of these tea parties, acts out in some nude, lascivious, racist, homophobic way, and the media reports it as though a Tea Party member did it, not one of the infiltrators, even though they know full well the plan is to infiltrate the Tea Party and behave this way?
You know they will.
I mean, it's as easy as predicting the sun's gonna come up tomorrow.
It's as easy as predicting the sun's gonna set today.
Even just know it.
Even after running, and of course, as as they write this story, there's no condemnation.
There's there's no uh if if there are a bunch of right wingers that are gonna infiltrate a bunch of left-wing protests, there would be derision.
There would be calls for lack of civility.
How can they dare do this?
Oh, it's a shame the country's getting so royaled and divided.
But here the AP practically is approving of this.
Because it sets them up to be able to report that the Tea Party is actually racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, moronic, or whatever.
They can't wait.
We got to take a brief time out.
We'll come back.
Stenny Hoyer, by the way, blaming the Tea Partiers for forcing Democrat retirement from the House of Representatives.
So the question is, will these infiltrators, led by this Levin guy or Levin guy of uh crash the Teaparty.org.
Are they gonna be accused of fostering hate speech?
Because they're gonna be the ones doing it.
They're gonna be the ones uttering hate speech.
They're gonna be going out there and trying to make themselves look like Tea Party people, which means they're gonna have to shave and take a shower and put on some clean clothes.
Uh cut their hair.
It's gonna be a it's gonna be a lifestyle change at least for a day.
If these people are gonna blend in, uh, you know, take the nose rings out and ear pierce things out of the, you know, whatever, toe rings off, and uh and try to blend in and make themselves look like tea partiers when they start shouting their racist dialogue.
Will they be accused of fostering hate speech?
Stenny Hoyer, this is some National Review Online The Corner.
Uh Stenny Hoyer says the negative atmosphere created by the Tea Party movement has influenced the retirement decisions of uh House Democrats, except for Bart Stupak.
They had nothing to do with Stupec.
Do I think the negative atmosphere that's been created by the Tea Party and by others certainly goes into the thinking of members?
Yeah, I think it does.
I think you have to honestly point it out that it does.
I I don't think that was a determining factor with respect to Stupak, because again, he was in very good shape in the polls.
It wasn't a question of his losing his election.
Huh.
These people can't even be honest with themselves.
So I I think there are judgments that are going to be made.
I would urge all the members that are here to run to seek re-election.
I think the Republicans still have more retirees than we do, so if it was the atmosphere, you would think the opposite would be the case, but it's not.
Stupak did not leave because of the Tea Party, but everybody else is.
That's uh Stanny Hoyer's message.
Here's Ray in Boston.
Great to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Well, hi, Rush.
Listen, you know, to add insult to injury to the Massachusetts nonprofit health insurance providers who the states and now the state courts won't won't allow them to increase the rate.
The reason for the uh double digit rate in the first place is because the new all the new first-time mandated enrollees who gain the system.
They don't get the insurance, then they wait till they have expensive medical needs, enter the program, get the service, and then they drop out right afterwards.
That's exactly right.
I forgot to mention that.
That was that was a central part of the story we had on Friday.
You have these drive-by patients who they wait till they get sick or wait till the accident, then they enroll, and this is causing some insurance rates to go up by six hundred percent overall, not on individuals, uh, to handle these people that come in and get out of the system.
And that's precisely why they need the increase, which they're being denied.
Well, something's got to give here.
I don't know how these companies can stay in business.
Even their nonprofits, I don't know how they can stay in business if they can't fund.
I mean, they've got to have reserves to pay their claims.
That's federal law, that's state law.
You've got to have a certain amount of cash on hand to be able to pay claims.
And in health care, there are claims daily, multiple claims daily.
Well, what's happening right now today is the insurance companies don't want to but they don't want to sell the insurance, so people can't buy the insurance because the insurance companies are gonna lose money.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hang on a minute.
I thought that uh I thought the governor ordered them to start quoting rates last Friday, and they have to start selling policies regardless of the.
And the uh court uh wouldn't let it.
The court says you have to go apply through the state system.
In the meantime, that could take months.
Yeah.
What are they supposed to do in the meantime?
Lose money?
That's that that's a my that's my question.
They it's either it's either that or shut down.
Yeah, they'd shut down.
They can't lose money indefinitely.
Well, to a statist like Deval Patrick or Obama, they can.
That's what they're supposed to do.
Well, they'll have to go into business.
That's what's gonna happen.
They won't.
In other words, they wanted an injunction so they wouldn't have to sell the insurance at a losing rate.
Right.
They've been denied it.
They said they gotta go and apply within the state.
That could take a long time.
In the meantime, they what are they supposed to do?
They don't want to write insurance.
Well, it is an interesting question.
If they if they're if they're not if they're forced to sell policies.
And furthermore, by the way, Ray, as you might recall, Daval Patrick told them last Friday they have to start quoting rates at last year's rates, not even this year's.
Precisely.
And those rates don't reflect all the new people gaming the system.
So they're caught in a they're caught in a bind, a double whammy that's gonna drive them out of business.
Yeah.
Well, then Daval Patrick can insure them.
You know, let the state handle it.
Well, that's the problem with Romney care, frankly, because it's gonna be manifested all over the country.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
But let's call it Obamacare.
Well, I mean the the program that Romney had in Massachusetts.
Yeah, I know, but but but Obama and everybody in his uh orb has been pointing to Massachusetts as a role model.
Right, it's a financial disaster.
It can't work.
It isn't working.
We're right in the middle of it not working.
Precisely, and it's not working faster than anybody thought would happen because right now the rates went up, the insurance companies can't uh charge the increased rates, and they went up precisely because insurance is uh open to everybody who gained the system.
Right.
And it the timing is uh is interesting because Doval Patrick's uh re-election campaign starts, and what better way to appear as a populist on the side of the little guy than to stand up to the insurance company and say, Hell no, you can't raise rates.
I don't care what the reason is, lose money.
My reelection here that matters.
Thanks, Ray.
This is Louise in Pittsburgh.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Rush, it's a great honor to talk to you and thank you for all you do for the American people.
Thank you very much.
I I heard the attorney uh just a few moments ago, and uh as a physician, my husband and I are both physicians in radiology.
Um I'm in one of the most lititious areas of radiology, which is diagnosing breast cancer.
And uh my thoughts are on this Obamacare bill is that one of the ultimate goals is to get everybody on some kind of uh government loan program so that they can lower our salaries and also therefore they won't have to uh they won't have to worry worry about tort reform because then all the doctors will be government employees won't be allowed to sue them.
Yeah, so along with having the trial lawyers in their back pocket, which we all know what a big um donor they are to the Democrat Party.
Yeah, I I really I'm you know wanting physicians to to get more active, and I'm I I know there are several groups.
There's a large group in New Jersey, a fifteen hundred member group that is suing to uh try to block the Obamacare.
But uh, you know, if people are worried about being a bit able to sue their doctors, not that I'm in in favor of that, because there's a lot of you know, defensive medicine that's out there, and you know that ninety-nine percent of doctors practice defensive medicine, and the one percent that don't are probably lying because it's a scary business, unfortunately.
Um look at it, I've I've uh I've experienced it myself, test after test after test, just to make sure that some insurance company doesn't come after him or some lawyer.
And and people, you know, there are people and there are ways to to uh have people's grievances addressed when the true problems arise.
But what what's gonna happen is they're gonna turn doctors into state employees, and then uh you won't be allowed to sue a doctor if there's a problem because you'll only be making you know a quarter of the salary anyway, and it'll be a government employee.
Yeah, you can't sue the government.
Yeah, so I mean I'm just waiting for that to to head around the corner and you know, people ask me, and I've I've uh I check my email frequently here during the course of the uh the busy broadcast day, and every time I say that they're gonna be a doctor shortage, there'll be fewer doctors.
Uh, you know, the the the the uh the the spam emailers and the seminar emailers.
What do you mean fewer doctors?
You full of all kinds of horror stories, you're just trying to scare people.
Why would Obama want fewer doctors?
I'm not saying Obama wants fewer doctors, I'm saying Obama doesn't have the hell of an idea what he's doing here.
He thinks that the golden goose is always gonna be golden, it's always gonna be laying golden eggs that he can grab.
He doesn't understand, like Margaret Thatcher said, socialism's great until you run out of everybody else's money.
And then you've got a big problem.
Now, why would there be fewer doctors?
They're gonna be paid less.
They're gonna be working in a field forced on them in areas where they don't want to be.
It's in the health care bill.
In the subset that's called a student loan program.
The student loan program taken over totally by Obama starting July first.
Everybody going to med school is gonna have to go to the government to get their student loan.
And it's gonna be just like going to a military academy.
In addition to paying for it, you owe them four years of service when you graduate.
Not that that's bad, don't misunderstand.
But in this case, you're going to owe Obama six years of your first care if six of the first years of your career.
And you're going to have to practice where they send you.
And they're obviously going to send people to areas where doctors are not locating on their own.
Guess where those areas are going to be?
You're going to have that's the price that future doctors are going to have to pay in order for the government to fund their education.
John in Coral Springs, Florida.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Hello.
Rush, it's an honest speak with you.
How are you doing today?
Very well, sir.
Thank you.
Listen, Rush, I'm going to tell you something, man.
I took your advice.
I got involved in you know, I got involved when you said go out and do something about it.
I got myself behind a conservative candidate down here in District 19 in Florida, Edward Lynch, and we have we have an election, a special election today.
And, you know, we have so many people, regular ordinary Americans out there trying to get the vote out today.
Um myself, you know, I've knocked on doors, I've made the phone calls, I've I've been with people, and you know, I was on a walk this weekend, and one of my walkers said to me, you know, how come none of the big guys on the radio will plug not campaign?
And you know, I told them, I said, hey, listen, man.
When we win this district, do you want them to say it was because of Fox News and because of Rush Limbaugh?
Or do you want them to say it was because of every Americans like you guys that got out there and did the work, did all the grunt work that you need to win elections.
Hey, John.
We need to move to win elections.
John, that is so right on you are doing the Lord's work, but I'm still going to get involved in this after the break.
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Okay.
You've seen the story.
Maybe you haven't seen the story.
I have the story here.
Income falls 3.2% during Obama's term.
Real personal income for Americans, excluding government payouts like Social Security, has fallen by 3.2% since Obama took office in January of 2009.
This, according to the Commerce Department.
For comparison's sake, real personal income during the first 15 months in office for President Bush, who inherited a milder recession from his predecessor, dropped 0.4%.
Income excluding government payouts increased 12.7% during Bush's eight years.
In just 15 months, personal income has fallen 3.2% since Obama was immaculated.
So, how will increasing taxes help when incomes are already falling?
The regime promised most people with health insurance would save $2,500 a year after he took over the health insurance agency.
That was a lie.
Premiums are going up.
Gas prices are creeping up.
A value-added tax is being hinted at.
Cap and tax isn't dead.
We have an economy not creating jobs.
Income is falling.
And so to rub salt in the womb, the regime has tax increases lined up and ready to go.
And we haven't even talked about state taxes yet.
They're going up because their tax revenues are down.
Unemployment stuck near 10%.
Public union pensions are acting like a massive termite colony in a log cabin.
I mean, it's really unbelievable what is happening with these unfunded pensions.
It's not just California.
It's all over the country.
And there is an editorial that ran yesterday, actually two days ago, ran Sunday in the Chicago Tribune.
And I'm going to read parts of this editorial to you.
Because this editorial could be written in every state of the Union.
But that it is written in Obama's hometown paper is all the more interesting, and it is dead on.
Listen to this.
History often occurs with such bombast that we couldn't miss it if we tried a climactic battle, a pivotal court decree, the inauguration of an African American president.
Other times, history evolves quietly via the law of accumulation.
Little things add up.
Illinois is suffering one of those subtler but game-changing passages today.
Our state is in a downward spiral that yes can still be reversed.
First, though, we have to admit that we are not the Illinois that was the muscular producer and processor and manufacturer that could stare a stranger in the eye and convincingly boast move here and prosper.
Few of us or our ancestors gravitated to this state for its prairie scenery or its bipolar climate.
Illinois instead promised near unrivaled opportunity.
It's rich soil, its wealth of industries, its human hustle frenetic to make a buck.
Today, though, we're losing employers.
Nearly half a million of our jobs are gone.
We export many of our educated young people to futures out of state.
We can wait paralyzed and hope that economic recovery eventually means full employment recovery, or we can make structural changes now that would welcome the makers of jobs.
We need to lower costs.
Our governance infrastructure has become overgrown and overpriced.
We have 7,000, often redundant governments, far more than any other state.
We populate those governments with armies of employees, and we give them duties, some essential, some make work.
Many politicians of both parties enlist these workers as their allies in a cozy paradigm.
If you help us win reelection, we will reward you with adequate salaries today and fabulous retirement benefits tomorrow, and that's exactly right.
That is precisely what has happened in every state of the union.
With the SEIU people, other government employee unions, we're going to get you salaries.
You help us get re-elected, and we're going to take care of you in retirement like you would never dream.
Except they're not.
Oh, by the way, before I continue with this, the special election.
It's for Wexler's district.
Wexler resigned.
Ostensibly to take a job somewhere.
Ed Lynch is the conservative Republican seeking to win the special election today.
And our caller, our last caller, uh was asking, said somebody asked him, How come talk radio Fox News are not pushing our guy?
And this guy said, we don't want them taking credit.
We want, we want ourselves and the grassroots effort and this guy to get credit for his election victory.
And that's good.
I mean, that's uh I I it it's about time that candidates started depending on themselves and their own armies rather than us.
I mean, I think that's wonderful.
But this is a this is a great chance, nevertheless, for a huge pickup.
Uh this you know, Wexler owned this district even though he never lived there.
He lived in Maryland, if you'll recall.
Uh uh this this district has always been in the hands of people like Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Wexler and so forth.
If this Ed Lynch Guy can pull this out today.
I'm telling you, it would rock Washington and Stenny Hoyer and Pelosi much more than you would ever know.
So I don't know how the polls are up when what?
7 o'clock, 8 o'clock here in Florida.
So if you haven't voted and you're in the Wexler district, and you want to add Lynch is the Republican candidate.
Now back to this editorial.
We've just mentioned the policy here.
Many politicians of both parties enlist government workers as their allies in a cozy paradigm.
You help us win re-election, we'll give you adequate salaries today and fabulous retirement benefits tomorrow.
Except they don't because all those retirements are now underfunded.
These politicians treat the public sector with fawning reverence while ignoring or even scorning a private sector that supplies their lifeblood revenues.
Why so?
It's because the politicians and their allies have a good thing going and no incentive to disrupt it.
So unlike in scrappier states, there is precious little talk in Illinois of curtailing teacher tenure or reducing benefits for current public employees or capping government expenditures or exterminating townships and other costly relics or demolishing obsolete institutions.
Only one state is doing any of that, and that's New Jersey with Chris Christie.
Recession, though, has forced a reckoning.
Our shrinking and salary-squeezed private sector workforce cannot adequately support many of our state's households, let alone sustain our antiquated overlays of taxing bodies.
This should be a time of tremendous opportunity for leaders who, rather than hiding from recession, exploit it to reinvent Illinois, to radically reshape the state's present and its future, to capitalize on employers' problems in other high-cost states by making Illinois their low-cost place to do business, to grow jobs.
Instead, our state house brims with defensive smallthink politicians hoping to survive another election.
We speak of this Illinois spiral not as fatalistic chicken littles, but as true believers who fiercely don't want this to become New Michigan or New California.
Those places tried to stem their declines by marshaling taxation and regulation and future spending obligations in ways that left many employers thinking, hmm, expense and hassle.
Plenty of other states would rather have these jobs than they leave.
You haven't heard Illinois leaders confront a November warning from advisors to the legislature's economic think tank that while half the states would recover from their job losses by mid-2013, Illinois would not recover until 2014 or 2015.
In the meantime, 10 states, including Illinois, are expected to suffer unemployment rates in excess of 9%.
Nor have you heard Illinois leaders in their to-and-fro over an income tax hike confront a 2009 report by the American Legislative Exchange Council.
A decade's worth of hard data suggests that states with no individual get this now.
States with no individual income tax created 89% more jobs and had 32% faster personal income growth than did states with the highest income tax rates.
That is a startling stat.
Doesn't surprise me.
What surprises me is that somebody looked it up and they actually published it here.
This is the Chicago Tribune reporting this.
States with no individual income tax rate created 89% more jobs, 32% faster personal income growth than states with the highest income tax rates.
The report also analyzed 15 policy factors that influence a state's growth prospects, tax burdens, debt service, tort climate, mandated minimum wage spending limits, if any, and ranked Illinois' economic outlook as an alarming 44th in the U.S. Nor have you heard Illinois leaders confront the state's devastating rank in job creation, 48th, and ask how they can be friendlier to present and potential employers.
Illinois, with its overspending, its borrowing, its worst in America pension crisis, faces massive obligations to give potential employers pause.
Add to this toxic mix, Illinois' high cost of worker compensation, it's 49th in the U.S. bond ratings.
How surprised then are we that since 1990 Illinois has underperformed the U.S. in job growth.
And who's been running the place?
Who's been running Chicago?
Meaning who's been running the state?
This is the Chicago Tribune, a lead editorial on Sunday.
Interesting companion story from Reuters.
Virginia's richest one percent of residents got an average $1,595 each from federal tax cuts in the 2009 stimulus law signed by Obama.
The biggest average benefit for affluent taxpayers in the U.S. Virginia's richest 1% of residents got an average of 1,595 each in federal tax cuts.
Now who lives in Virginia?
Members of Congress.
Their staffs.
A lot of federal employees.
But it doesn't just stop there.
The study found the best places for the wealthy to live when federal tax burdens were assessed were Maryland, New York, California, Virginia, Massachusetts, New Jersey.
What do those states have in common?
They have the largest congressional delegations in Washington.
A couple things here.
USA Today has the story, a nation's soaring deficit calls for painful choices.
Now listen to this.
Irksome Bowles realized how tough his task will be leading President Obama's war on the federal budget deficit when he told his 90-year-old mother of his appointment.
She was proud of him.
And then she said, Don't mess with my Medicare.
Now, this woman and her son and her daughter-in-law are loaded.
They are multi-millionaires.
And Irkson Bowles' mom is worried about her government handout Medicare.
As her son goes to Washington to once again put his reputation on the line by heading up a commission orchestrated by a Democrat to cover up Obama's own and the regime's own culpability in this whole spending and debt mess.
Now Andy Stern's quitting SEIU.
He's on this deficit panel.
And you know what's going to happen?
They're going to wait till after the November elections.
They're going to release their report in December.
What they think needs to happen to reduce the debt.
It'll contain massive tax increase suggestions.
And the Democrats will act fast on them, hoping that in two years people forget what happened.
By the time 2012 rolls around.
Darren in Tampa, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
It's truly an honor rush to speak with you today.
I call you a patriot.
Thank you, John.
You know, the student loan math may there may be actually a silver lining in that that maybe we don't recognize.
And sometimes that's what happens with these liberal agendas that come along.
They backfire them because liberals don't understand the American people.
And I think that the harder it is to get into college or the harder it is to pay for college, and especially when the government attaches their name to student loans, uh, the less that kids are going to want to go.
Uh the harder it's going to be for parents to get their kids to want to go.
I mean, who wants to have to jump through hoops uh with anything that has the government's name on it?
Everybody complains about everything from the post office to the driver's license bureau or whatever.
It's just it's it's in it's impossible.
Now, of course, there's obvious benefits to maybe not having as much of a college-educated um populist.
I mean, I think that a lot of people say that you know we're not educated enough, but I would contend that we are overeducated.
And I don't really see how anyone can get through the typical institution of higher learning and not come out totally liberal or at least messed up.
Um, you know, on the other hand.
Well, I understand that totally.
No, I you know, I was gonna jump in here because of the constraints of time.
Uh, and this when we say overeducated, I would say maleducated or ill-educated.
I mean, they're educated, they just taught lies.
They're taught a bunch of dribble.
But I'll tell you something.
The uh the notion that people are going to not want to go to college because they got to go through the government to go there, I don't know.
It's So embedded in people's minds that you have no chance in life if you don't go to college.
Uh that's gonna be a tough one.
And I don't know if you're gonna be right about that.
Could be, though, because the American people are resourceful.
You're right.
Liberals never do predict properly the consequences of their actions.
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