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	Hey folks, you remember I just remembered this.
	Do you remember getting out of the Iraq war was going to pay for health care?
	You remember whatever happened to that.
	Yeah.
	Well, whatever happened to getting out of Iraq to pay for health care.
	Great to have you here, folks, Rush Limbaugh and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
	Telephone number, and we're going to get to your calls El Quico in this hour, is 800-282-2882.
	All right, so the big news now is that Obama has delayed his Indonesian vacation for the kids until June.
	It was supposed to leave today.
	After the vote had been passed and he had signed it.
	Well, they don't have anything to vote on as of right now, and they don't have the votes, even if they did have something to vote on.
	So they were going to vote on it on Sunday.
	And now they're not going to vote on obviously they're not going to vote on it on Sunday.
	If they were going to vote Sunday, it's going to pass, Obama wouldn't delay the trip.
	So they don't have the votes.
	And you don't think they're going to have a votes for a vote on Sunday.
	Now, this is always a vacation trip.
	This is always a design to take the kids to uh to show them dad's roots over there wherever the roots are.
	And now it's been put off until June.
	Well, the reason it's June is because that's the next opportunity the kids will have for a legal vacation out of scrubel.
	This is spring break from scrub, but you can't go now.
	And they're not gonna w in June they're out of school.
	So you can take the vacation then.
	Delaying the trip till June.
	Now this doesn't bode well for a vote on Sunday, does it?
	And you're gonna have the La Raza crowd showing up, all these illegal immigrants and their sponsors showing up for a massive march on Washington Sunday, demanding a change in a health care bill to basically give whatever they want.
	They want amnesty and they want unlimited health insurance for the uh illegal immigrants who will then be amnestized.
	I don't know.
	Uh it it the wheels don't seem to be on the bus here, as far as they're concerned.
	We've they've lost two votes today from the uh from the yes column to no.
	Well, I don't know why I'm the only one reporting it.
	I'm happy to be the only one reporting it, but I'm I'm sure others will pick up on this.
	One more thing about the CBO number, and I've I don't want to rehash the uh the first hour.
	But just another illustration of the abject irrelevancy of the CBO number today.
	Pelosi said this week, she said last week.
	Obama said it 2007.
	We've played all these audio sound bites where he's talking to his union buddies about how they're gonna get the single payer may take ten years, but they're gonna get there, you can't just do this overnight.
	Pelosi herself said this week that even after they pass this, there's gonna be more.
	This is just the first step.
	Harkin's out there.
	This is just the starter house.
	There's gonna be gonna be much, much more here.
	So why do we care when the CBO puts out any number when the Democrats are already telling us that this is just the beginning?
	The costs are infinite here.
	Now, the president signed a jobs bill today.
	The higher act, H I R E Hire Act, uh $18 billion, $15 billion jobs bill.
	Do you know what it does?
	Um the same.
	I mean, it doesn't it doesn't create any jobs.
	It's got some funny tax breaks in there for small businesses to payroll taxes, but you've got to jump through hoops to get them.
	Uh the National Council of La Raza has put out this press release, uh, came yesterday.
	Today the United States Senate passed legislation that could provide up to one billion dollars in assistance to the nonprofit sector and create thousands of new nonprofit jobs.
	The National Council of La Raza, the largest national Latino civil rights and advocacy organiz organization in the country applauds the Senate for passing the hiring incentives to restore employment act, and that's what President Obama signed in the in a law today.
	Hiring incentives to restore employment.
	When signed into law, the act will exempt employers from paying Social Security payroll taxes for unemployed workers they hire in 2010.
	Like private business, nonprofit organizations will also be able to to uh eligible for this Social Security tax holiday.
	So the Act will exempt employers from paying social security payroll taxes for unemployed workers.
	Now, if this hasn't changed, you have to hire somebody who's been out of work a minimum sixty days.
	And it's a one-year deal.
	It's just it's a one year uh what's the word?
	Vacation?
	Uh a one year tax holiday.
	How much do you want to bet when these people reach retirement age that they demand that they receive social security benefits for their years of employment for these nonprofits anyway?
	And is that really what we need to be doing is strengthening hiring at at nonprofits?
	Is that what we need to be doing?
	I mean, nonprofits, some of them are good, don't misunderstand.
	But nonprofits in many cases are a giant scam in order to score money from the government when you otherwise have no talent and can do nothing for which anybody will pay you.
	So employers, here's what can happen.
	Here's what can happen.
	And we we mentioned this when this was first proposed.
	This is one of these unintended consequences that statists and tyrannical dictator types like Obama and Pelosi don't understand when they put bills together like this because they don't understand the the dynamic.
	So they think we got an employment problem out there, we've got small businesses.
	We have no reason for small business to hire anybody.
	There's no work needing to be done because there's no economic output going on.
	More and more people are losing jobs.
	They need to make profits, and there's not much profiteering going on out there.
	And if you do report one, you become a target.
	You make a profit, you'd be FedEx just reported a major, major profit.
	They got a bullseye on them now, just like the insurance companies have bullshake as they obscene profit.
	At any rate, here's what the smart, creative small businessman will do.
	And again, he can't take on a new employee.
	Having a a holiday for a year on payroll taxes, that's not incentive enough to hire anybody, so what do you do?
	You go to your employees, your existing employees, and you say, Look, you're fired for two months.
	And then we're gonna hire you back.
	And I won't have to pay any Social Security matching contributions for you for a full year.
	So that's the reason this will happen is because there's no incentive to hire new workers and add to the workforce if you don't have enough work to do to pay somebody and still maintain uh uh a structure that's at least focused and oriented toward earning a profit.
	So you simply lay off whatever number of people you already have.
	I might try this myself.
	I might try it myself.
	We'll have a couple people f just you know make a little deal.
	Pay them cash under the table during the two months.
	Then hire them back and s and and and get credit from Obama for hiring people uh and getting a tax holiday on the social security side on the payroll tax.
	I mean, that's what that's what some creative uh people are gonna do.
	Let me grab a phone call very quickly here before we go to the break because I I do want to get started early here.
	If if I don't start on the phones now, I'm afraid I'll never get to them because there's that much here that I have.
	We're gonna start with Laura in Minneapolis, your first and welcome.
	Great to have you here.
	Hi, Rosh.
	How are you?
	Fine, thank you.
	Okay, um, basically what I wanted to call and tell you is I'm a twenty-one-year-old young woman um living in a predominantly democratic state.
	And um, thanks to your daily emails, I got the two phone numbers to call, and I probably wouldn't have called otherwise.
	So I called right away at 8 a.m. and I happened to get through.
	And the first day I got through, they were okay, and they were kind of rude.
	But today when I called and got through, the gentleman that answered was completely rude.
	Who were you calling?
	Did you just call the switchboard number?
	Yep, I called the 202 number that you had sent in your daily email.
	Yeah.
	That's the Russian a hurry email that she saw, which is a freebie.
	Yep.
	Um I'll explain that in just a second.
	But but so you just switchboard operator you're talking to.
	Yep, so he answered Congress switchboard and I was like, Hi, um, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to tell if I'm supposed to give you my opinion or what on the bill.
	And he's like, Well, who are you trying to reach?
	What are you trying to say?
	And I was like, Excuse me?
	I'm like, I'm calling from Minneapolis.
	I don't know if you're supposed to transfer me to my, you know, people here in Minneapolis, or what he's like, well, you should have just said that first when you called.
	I was like, Excuse me?
	Like, okay, well, I guess then I'm trying to reach Eric Paulson's office because that's the person in my district.
	Well, you should have just told me that's who you were trying to reach when you called, and I'll put you through.
	Thanks, and have a great day.
	And I was like, Wow, okay, well, you have a great day too.
	Now, Laura, you gotta understand something.
	These people's the volume of calls.
	That uh they're they're getting no.
	Think it d do you know you're probably too young to remember Lily Tomlin's character, Ernestine, the phone operator.
	Uh, probably.
	Yep.
	Back in the old days when the phone operators had to plug patch cords into various things to m to connect phone calls, and she was constantly busy.
	These people answering the switchboard are frazzled.
	They already sounded like he was having a pretty bad day.
	Yeah, they're frazzled.
	They're frazzled.
	And uh if that doesn't sound actually too bad.
	Well, well, it sounded worse than I can probably make it sound.
	His tone of voice wasn't exactly pleasant.
	He he basically knew I was calling because when I initially said, Well, I'm calling to voice my opinion against the bill, and actually the first time I got through, I was so nervous I didn't know what to say.
	I actually read something, one of the little clips that you had in your daily email.
	Yeah.
	I just read something right off of there, and the woman, when I read it, she kind of giggled after her.
	She was like, Huh.
	Like she c she couldn't believe I was saying that.
	She just thought it was so ridiculous.
	And I wanted to say, you know what, I'm reading this straight from Rush, but then I thought that would probably throw her even more overboard.
	Well, did you get connected?
	Yeah, yep, I got connected to Paulson.
	Yep, yep.
	I got connected to his office, and I said the first time I got through, she didn't ask me my name, my zip code, she didn't ask me anything.
	She just laughed once I read her your clip.
	She thought it she thought it was hilarious.
	But today when I got through, the guy was a lot nicer at the actual office.
	Not at the Congress office, but at Eric Paulson's actual office.
	Right.
	He was a lot nicer, and I was like, Well, yesterday they didn't get any of my information.
	He's like, Okay, well, today I'll take it all down.
	I was like, Are you guys actually like, you know, taking what we're saying into context?
	Like, I know you probably can't tell me if there's more no's than yeses, but I assume there probably is.
	He's like, To be honest with you, there is.
	And I'm like, okay, well, i if you're taking down what I'm saying, you know, I would really appreciate it.
	So he took the time to write it down.
	Excellent.
	This is all good.
	This is exactly what you're supposed to do out there.
	Are we keeping talking about the difference or is it too late?
	Damn right, you're making a difference.
	Hell yes, you're making a difference.
	So should I keep trying to call?
	Absolutely, you keep trying to call.
	Next next time when you call, ask for James Oberstar.
	Okay.
	He's from Minnesota.
	And uh and he's gonna stick with voting yes for the bill, but he's he's abandoning Mart Stupak's group.
	He's in the uh anti-abortion group that's gonna still vote for taxpayer funded abortions.
	So you need to call and next time ask for Oberstar and say, How dare you vote for my tax dollars being used to kill babies in the womb?
	James Oberstar?
	James Oberstar.
	Okay, I'll I'm gonna keep trying to call today.
	Can we call tomorrow or call you can call fourteen times each hour if you want?
	No, I have one more question for you.
	I know your lines are so busy, but let's just say it does get passed tomorrow.
	What do we do then?
	What can what can I do as a young woman?
	Just stay tuned.
	I'm not willing to concede that it's gonna get passed tomorrow, Saturday or Sunday.
	Okay.
	But if if it gets p don't worry, it's not over if it gets passed.
	I mean, the fun really just begins then.
	The fun.
	Well, you gotta look at it as fun.
	Well, I mean it's if you say it's fun, I'll go along with you.
	Well, it it's it's it's gonna be tumultuous.
	I'm going into nursing, so this makes me extremely nervous.
	Uh well, it should.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It really should.
	Yeah.
	All right, Laura, well, I had you called.
	You're time.
	I'm she talking to her gave me an idea.
	Coupled with the fact here's FedEx profit more than doubles tops expectations.
	Sharply higher quarterly profit, topping expectations.
	Uh and as I said, uh this by the way, this is what happens when you don't have a union.
	Um they've got a big target uh painted on them.
	But I was thinking here, folks, um, why don't we add economic stimulus to our never ending phone calls to Capitol Hill.
	What can we do next?
	Now this is going to cost something, but you'll have to determine whether or not it's worth it.
	All these calls are great.
	877, 762, 8762, 202, 224, 3121.
	But how about if everybody FedExes?
	UPS.
	Postal Service priority mail.
	Overnight, priority over, or you know, standard over and make sure it gets delivered the next day.
	Just one piece of paper, vote no.
	Flood DC with FedEx and UPS trucks, Saturday delivery, with all just one word in there.
	Vote, or two words, vote no.
	You got to pick out a member of Congress to send it to.
	You know, and you get their address.
	But this would be economic stimulus, as well as and with the phone calls too.
	It's just an idea.
	Just an idea.
	Anyway, I gotta take a break here.
	We'll be back.
	We will continue.
	Got more sound bites from Brett Baer and Obama and a lot of other things too, as well as more of your phone calls.
	Sit tight.
	Don't go away.
	And we're back.
	It's Rush Limboss serving humanity and utilizing talent on lawn from God.
	Our telephone number 800-282-2882, email address L Rushbaugh at EIB net.com.
	Back now to the uh audio soundbites.
	This is Brett Bear and Barack Obama.
	Brett Bayer, do you know which specific deals are in or out as of today?
	That's not going to be something that is going to be in this final package.
	Something that was called a special deal was for Louisiana.
	In fact, that provision, which I think should remain in, said that if a state has been affected by a natural catastrophe that has created a special health care emergency in that state, they should get help.
	Louisiana obviously went through Katrina, and they're still trying to deal with the enormous challenges that were faced because of that.
	Understands are still on a second, Brett.
	That's my question.
	I'm giving you an example of one that I consider important.
	It also affects Hawaii, which went through an earthquake.
	So that's not just a Louisiana provision, That is a provision that affects every state that is going through a natural catastrophe.
	Okay, I can't wait for this one.
	I can't wait.
	I don't know.
	I really don't know whether he is this ignorant or naive or is just lying.
	It's a toss-up.
	The guy's not as bright as everybody thinks.
	This provision for the Louisiana purchase, do you know what is this?
	Hawaii earthquake crap.
	Do you know what the provision for the for the Louisiana purchase is?
	You know how it's written?
	I'm gonna have to paraphrase it.
	But it says if your state has had a natural disaster in the month of August or September of whatever year Katrina happened, then you qualify for an exemption from added Medicare mandates.
	It was written specifically to apply only to Louisiana.
	It did not apply to Mississippi.
	Mississippi got hit just as hard as Louisiana.
	But Mississippi has a Republican governor, Haley Barber, and they ran around putting themselves back together on their own for the most part.
	They had a lot of help.
	And it wasn't the hurricane that did in New Orleans.
	Everybody forgets this.
	It was the uh the levees that failed, and we all know the corruption that led to that, the Corps of Engineers and so forth.
	The hurricane was long gone, a hurricane had caused a flooding, levees broke after they had supposedly been short up.
	But this thing was written specifically for Mary Landrew.
	Hawaii earthquake, it didn't allow for any other state, including Mississippi, to participate in this exemption.
	And he's out there telling everybody, well, we if any state had a natural disaster, of course we want to help out here.
	It was written specifically for Louisiana, specifically for Mary Landrew.
	Next, uh Obama endorses the uh the deem and pass.
	Brett Bear, you've said at least four times in the past two weeks, the United States Congress owes the American people a final up or down vote on health care.
	So do you support the use of the slaughter rule, the demon pass rule?
	So the Democrats avoid the straight up and down vote on the Senate bill.
	I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what the procedural rules are in the House or the Senate.
	What I what I can tell you what I can tell you is is that the vote that's taken in the House will be a vote for health care reform.
	And if people vote yes, whatever form that takes, that is going to be a vote for health care reform.
	And I don't think we should pretend otherwise.
	But Mr. President, if this Monday.
	Brett, let me finish.
	And if they don't, if they vote against it, then they're going to be voting against health care reform, and they're going to be voting in favor of the status quo.
	So he said you support the demon pass rule.
	I am not sure.
	You're saying that that's that vote.
	What I am saying is that whatever they end up voting on, and I hope it's going to be sometime this week, that it is going to be a vote for or against my health care proposal.
	And that's what matters.
	And that's what ultimately people are going to judge this on.
	He doesn't have a proposal, folks.
	Barack Obama has not submitted a proposal.
	There is no reconciliation bill to vote on, which is why the CBO said today that their guess is preliminary, because they don't have any solid information.
	He would not answer the question about demon.
	Well, he did say.
	He doesn't care.
	He doesn't care about the process.
	He does not care what has to be shredded.
	He doesn't really care what's in this.
	Because he knows that it's not about health care.
	He knows what it's ultimately about is destroying the private sector insurance business and making the government the sole insurer, the sole provider, if you will, of health care, which expands government, limits freedom, puts all these mandates, costs, bankrupts the country, and that's what he's interested in.
	Process, yeah, it's minutia to him.
	But he was clearly outclassed here and not nearly as prepared or knowledgeable as Brett Baer was.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we have a forerunner of Obamacare.
	We have an illustration of what we're all headed for should Obamacare become the law of the land.
	Walgreens in the state of Washington, regional Walgreen stores, will stop taking new Medicaid patients as of April 16th, saying it loses money filling their prescriptions, Medicaid for the poor.
	So effective April 16th, Walgreens drug stores across the state will not take any new Medicaid patients, saying that filling their prescriptions is a money-losing proposition.
	The latest development in an ongoing dispute over Medicaid reimbursement.
	How in the world can we be possibly contemplating doing what Obama's doing when we have news like this breaking out?
	We've got news that one third of the doctors will quit the profession.
	And nurses, too.
	They're going to quit because they can't make any money.
	Medicare reimbursements are going down as well.
	And we're going to expand this.
	Margaret Thatcher said it best, ladies and gentlemen.
	Trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
	And that is why rationing is the inevitable when the government takes over.
	And by the way, if this happens and they succeed in their primary objective of destroying and ruining, wiping out the private insurance industry, once the government's the only place you can go for health insurance, you're you're trapped.
	There's nowhere else to go.
	Unless you have a kind of wealth that will let you pay for every trip to the doctor, regardless of what it is, out of your pocket, and that doctor may be hard to find.
	You're trapped.
	Where else do you go?
	The money eventually runs out.
	That's why there will be rationing.
	Obama, every other liberal, starves the golden goose while demanding more eggs, and it doesn't work that way.
	Doctors, nurses, ambulances, everything connected with health care is going to be depleted.
	These blue dogs, you know, people are saying the CDO number will rush.
	The blue dogs are going to like this.
	Maybe five of them, this will appeal to, but uh at some point, even they are going to be made to realize the number's meaningless.
	It's fraudulent.
	It's an estimate.
	It is a wild guess.
	Doug Schoen last night on Hannity on the Fox News channel asked him, he's a he's a Democrat polster.
	And they're talking about Dem and Pass, the slaughter rule.
	And Hannity said is Obama really going to try to sell that.
	If you combine reconciliation with demon Pass and basically play a con game with the American people for unpopular legislation, the reaction will be cataclysmic and unambiguous in the fall.
	Blue dogs, we've been trying to warn you guys for the past year about your fate if you go along with this.
	Here's a Democrat pollster.
	This guy was in Bill Clinton's camp.
	And he's saying if you Democrats do this, it will be a cataclysmic event for the party.
	Unambiguous.
	No two ways about it.
	You're cooked.
	A landslide of historic proportions, sweeping Democrats out of town.
	More Democrats and Obama will be able to have decent jobs for them.
	Gloria Borger, last night CNN the Situation Room.
	Remember now the Cartoon Network has more audience than CNN.
	This is why we're playing this for you.
	Wolf Blitzer said to Gloria, why would Nancy Pelosi and her colleagues even take that chance, the slaughter solution, demon pass?
	What would be the gain for them?
	Clearly they don't have the votes yet, and they want to win.
	And there is some thought that they don't care if they win on a technicality or if they win by casting one vote for essentially two bills.
	It makes the Democrats look, shall we say, a tad desperate or a tad arrogant?
	And I think this is a larger problem for them because people have been paying attention to the process of health care.
	And the American public knows Democrats are trolling for votes.
	And they're gonna look at this and say, gee, isn't this a little underhanded?
	They don't have the votes.
	They look desperate.
	They lost two more yes votes today.
	Stephen Lynch in Massachusetts and Mr. Arcury from New York.
	They were gonna vote yes, they voted no.
	Changed their votes.
	Now we're hearing all this.
	Great news about the the CBO numbers.
	Ooh, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yahoo.
	Fact of the matter is now everybody's dumping on them on their side on the slaughter solution.
	And they've lost a couple of more supporters today.
	And last night on PBS Charlie Rose, he spoke with Lawrence O'Donnell, a Democrat political analyst about uh health care reform.
	And uh Rose said, You're so you're you're eagerly waiting here for an announcement from the CBO, is that right?
	They are telling you you're waiting for CBO because what you're really waiting for is a large block of undecided voters in the House who aren't there yet, and you can't get your CBO estimate until you have all your votes lined up, because you're gonna make deals to get those votes.
	My opinion is they don't have the votes, that's why they don't have CBO.
	And uh they they still don't have he may be right, they still don't have CBO.
	They've got an estimate.
	They have an estimate because they don't know what it's gonna cost to pay these guys off or to bribe them.
	And they don't even have their reconciliation bill.
	The news is not that they're gonna vote on Sunday, but would Obama cancel his trip if they're actually gonna vote on Sunday?
	I mean, Air Force One doesn't leave till he gets on it.
	Doesn't seem to mean that they have the votes.
	Walgreens, no new Medicaid patients as of April 16th.
	This is huge.
	This is huge.
	This is Obamacare before it's passed.
	A snapshot of what's gonna be going on all over the country.
	We don't have the money for this.
	More Lawrence O'Donnell last night on the Charlie Rose show.
	After he said, I don't think they have the votes, he added this.
	It's the same thing as Clinton on health care.
	The loss happened at a worse time on the calendar.
	It happened in September before November elections.
	They had no time to recover from it here.
	If you had a loss in April of this thing, there's a lot that can happen in our world between now and then, including things that can happen in Afghanistan and Iraq and on airplanes that change everything about our dialogue.
	Wait a minute, what is he saying?
	If Democrats lose, it won't be as bad as 94 because we might have a terrorist attack.
	Is that what he said?
	What why does he think a terrorist attack will help Democrats?
	What?
	Oh, because we'll rally behind the guy who's not doing anything to stop terrorist attacks.
	Yeah.
	So we'll rally behind Obama because he wants to put Khalid Sheikh Mohammed on trial in a New York courtroom.
	Or we're going to rally behind Obama because the Fort Hood shooting or rallying behind Obama.
	Really?
	Now you think you think they're not desperate?
	A terrorist attack could save Obama.
	They vote for this.
	My friends, do not think for a moment that what's happening in America this week around health care reform and the Democrats' willingness to ignore constitutional rights of Americans is not being discussed at Hillsdale College.
	I love this place.
	School in Michigan, I have referenced the place that turns out thousands of excellent undergrads, all suited to take on the world with a variety of degrees, but they all have one additional thing in common.
	They can argue the merits of the Constitution better than most.
	Everybody at Hillsdale fully understands what is happening with the slaughter solution, how unconstitutional it is, and they understand why, and every one of those students can tell you.
	in a way that leaves no doubt.
	Hillsdale requires their students to attend classes to better understand the Constitution and our rights.
	Require, it may be too strong a word, because these kids want to be there.
	They want to take these classes.
	They want to learn from some of the brightest and the most articulate professors.
	They want to be challenged.
	They want to prove that they know what they know.
	They want to prove that they've learned it.
	These kids, these students at Hillsdale do not fear criticism.
	They welcome it.
	They welcome critics because it's an opportunity to teach what they've learned.
	Now the debate in this country over the heart and soul of America is in full swing.
	Hillsdale is one place where the message of what's right and what's wrong is consistent.
	Because when a student decides to attend this college, they do so knowing that there's not a dime of government assistance, no GI Bill access, nothing from the government.
	Hillsdale teaches their students from day one not to be government dependent, and they don't want their curriculum to be guided or conditional on anything from the government.
	And there's a way you can see what goes on there.
	They have a monthly digest called Imprimus that captures speeches from some brilliant thinkers.
	Some of the brightest people in the world go to Hillsdale and speak.
	I have done so, of course.
	Imprimus is is uh with no strings attached free.
	It's read by 1.7 million people every month, and you can get it.
	Rush for Hillsdale.com.
	Or if you're in the car, you can use the phone 1-866 Hillsdale.
	Rush for Hillsdale.com.
	You gotta wonder just how much fun the professors are having as they dissect the constitutional antics of Obama and Pelosi this week.
	You know what kind of crap your kids are learning.
	You know what kind of garbage your students are being exposed to, your own kids.
	The kids at Hillsdale, these professors this week are just ecstatic over the opportunity that's been presented them.
	Not only to teach how the Constitution works, but what happens when a bunch of leftists try to subordinate it?
	We'll be back.
	Stay with us.
	We have a special guest.
	I want to welcome to the EIB network, the ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee, Paul Ryan from Wisconsin, who uh really got the ball rolling today on the fraud that was the early release of CBO numbers, clear estimates, wild guesses.
	Congressman, thanks for carving some time.
	I know you're swamped today.
	I agree good to be with you.
	First long time lesser, first time caller, right?
	That's a great tell us what's going on with this.
	I'm uh we know the CBO number's basically a fraud designed to persuade some wavering uh blue dogs, but but what what's what's the real state?
	It seems to me like they don't have the votes they're getting further away that's it seems like a fire drill gonna walk.
	Right.
	So they needed to power on some more spending to try and assuage you know the liberals and the progressives.
	So they basically took put the screws on um Medica more Medicare cuts, more tax increases to accommodate the extra spending they had ahead on this thing.
	They got a new 3.8 tax on interest dividends, annuities, royalties, and rents for people.
	They increased taxes on the Medicare payroll tax.
	And they did more penalties on businesses if they don't offer the kind of health insurance Kathleen Sibelius tells them they have to offer.
	So more taxes, more Medicare cuts to pay for more spending to try and get these votes.
	Is there a reconciliation bill?
	Is there something you've seen?
	Because the CBO said they can't score it because this is It's an estimate.
	If is there anything to vote on yet?
	No, we have not seen anything, but because they started leaking out their numbers that they manipulated, CBO was forced to release their estimates.
	So we've seen a CBO estimate, but we've not seen the bill that they're estimating.
	Is there one?
	Well, they must have draft of something for CBA to give these estimates.
	So we have not seen a bill, but clearly they have a draft because the way it works is you send CBO drafts, they give you scores from it.
	And so now we've seen a score of this draft and by looking at the CBO score, I'm able to tell you, you know, what the tax increases in the Medicare cuts are.
	Well aren't they double counting Medicare anyway?
	Rendering that 940 billion number irrelevant?
	Correct, it's not.
	They double count Class Act premiums, they double count source security taxes, they double count a half a trillion actually five hundred and twenty two billion in Medicare cuts to make this thing look as if it's adding up explain to people how that happened when I say double counting, I know w when they're double counting five hundred billion dollars Medicare cuts, what what are they actually doing with it?
	So they're cutting half a billion out of half a trillion out of Medicare.
	That's supposed to go to Medicare and make it solvent, but they're using it instead as a piggy bank to pay for this new program.
	So they're taking it from Medicare, but at the same time they're claiming they're extending Medicare solvency.
	So they're counting those cuts twice when in fact they're using this money to create a new entitlement.
	Then they have all these tax increases which the dollars for these tax increases are already spoken for forcial security for this new entitlement for long term care called the Class Act, which are spoken for those programs, but they're counting it to fund this new program.
	So they're basically saying we're going to spend in both places the same dollar which the CBO is telling them you can't do that.
	Did I see so many people making estimates that I see you statement said that you think they're ten votes short.
	That's what we think.
	So it's really so fluid it's basically they're at least a handful, maybe two handfuls short.
	This is a fluid situation.
	They moved we've moved two people from the yes column to the no column a Curie from New York, Lynch from Massachusetts, we believe are two people who went from yes to no but as you know yesterday they flipped a couple from from no to yes.
	So it's a fluid situation.
	They're clearly down they don't have the votes the president wouldn't be postponing his trip if he didn't think this was that they were still shy.
	He'd be Yeah I mean he wanted to leave he wanted to leave Sunday he could still leave Sunday if they were going to vote so does it mean they're not going to be uh a vote Sunday likely.
	I think there is going to be a vote likely that's what our Democratic colleagues are telling us but they know they don't have the votes and they think they can just create sort of a pressure cooker situation to pressure their members to voting with the quote unquote team and bring this over the finish line.
	President said last night in his um uh s uh interview with with Brad Bear that this whole thing is going to get posted that he'll find out what's in it when it gets posted and we'll all be able to find out as we posted for seventy two hours.
	Uh that's I think you referred to these two votes that they gained yesterday as two guys in Central Valley of California are going to turn a water back on for them.
	But you haven't seen a piece of legislation that does that.
	No.
	It can't possibly be posted for 72 hours if it's going to be voted on Sunday.
	That's exactly right.
	So something's going to have to give either they're going to violate their pledge in seventy two hours or they're going to vote later than Sunday and the president you know will postpone his trip more.
	Well he's already announced he's going to postpone the trip and that's why a lot of people are thinking they're not going to vote Sunday or at least at least they don't have the votes now to do it.
	So well it does remain fluid and and uh we're fortunate we're able to get through to you with all the phones made Crown but I tell you it's amazing.
	And there's I just ran into a busload of seniors who came up here for one day from Florida to walk the halls and talk to members of Congress.
	People are engaged unlike anything I've ever ever seen before.
	It's truly remarkable and impressive.
	They got to keep the pressure on they know if they let their members go home for this Easter recess, they're done.
	And that means they've got to do it now and that's why they're trying to put this pressure cooker to try and get their members to do this and they're starting to lose people and they don't have the votes and they're going to try and break arms and muscle this thing through and the next handful of days will be the determine the outcome is whether or not you know this bill to basically nationalize the healthcare sector of our economy you know succeeds or not.
	Well you're doing a yeoman's work here in trying to stop it and uh people so proud of you and that that uh the uh the the meeting you had over the uh the White House, uh people loved what you said to Obama and the way he looked back at you at that point.
	I appreciate it.
	I'm a representative, and I the way I look at it is that's exactly what people in southern Wisconsin would have wanted me to say to him.
	Well, you did, and keep it up.
	Everybody's proud of you and it's uh supporting what you're doing.
	That's Paul Ryan, uh, who is the ranking Republican member member on the House Budget Committee with the latest update on the uh real meaning of the CBO numbers today, what as best anybody can determine they mean, and what the future holds.
	Five to ten seats undecided, best counts so far, our votes undecided.
	We'll take a brief break, come back right after this, and move on.
	Folks, you'll keep those phone calls going to 877-762-8762-202-224-3121.
	What's happening is your phone calls are actually taking the Easter break to Congress.
	They are hearing today and yesterday and the day before.
	They're gonna hear tomorrow what they would have heard had they gone home and passed this thing, or not passed it.
	And your phone calls and and what they think they're gonna hear from you is what is keeping the vote from happening.
	So to borrow a phrase, we are the ones we are waiting for to stop this travesty.
	Your phone calls are taking the Easter break straight to Congress.

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