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Jan. 7, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 7, 2010, Thursday, Hour #2
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With half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair, Rush Limboy, your guiding light.
Everybody wants to be me.
Behind the golden EIB microphone at 800-282-2882.
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U.S. intelligence officials, under pressure to better track terrorist threats, are hampered by their own vast bureaucracy and an overwhelming flow of information.
Analysts say this from the French news agency, President Obama.
Now, all of a sudden, when Obama's in the White House, oh, it's understandable that we've got intel.
It may not be quite up to stuff.
Oh, he's so sad.
We're so sorry.
They're so overworked and they have such a vast bureaucracy.
And it's an overwhelming flow of information.
And they're just under better pressure.
They're hampered.
Yeah, the French agency now has a total understanding of the difficulties.
President Obama has now discovered that he's inherited an intelligence community in the U.S. which is bloated, bureaucratic, and even with the best of intentions, has become so large, it finds it very hard to put together the pieces, said Bruce Rydell, a former CIA officer to the French news agency.
So there you have it.
The reason, and this is when I, people ask me, why is Obama being so blunt here?
Why is he saying that it's a second strike and there aren't going to be three strikes?
Why is he saying that this is a screw-up?
Well, here's your answer.
Because he can once again dump on Bush.
And the drive-by state-controlled world media is helping right along.
President Obama has now discovered that he has inherited an intelligence community which is bloated, bureaucratic, and even with the best of intentions has become so large.
It's very hard to put together the pieces.
It's, you know, I don't doubt, I mean, Homeland Security wasn't even necessary as far as I'm concerned.
We've created a whole new bureaucracy.
And as I saw last week, somewhere, I don't remember where, some smart person said, we already had a Department of Homeland Security.
It's located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
That's where the White House is for those of you in Riolinda.
And that's true.
But all of a sudden now, it's too bloated.
It's too big.
It's unwieldy.
President Obama just, it's too much for anybody to keep up.
Now, you remember all those stories.
I'm sure, making excuses for Bush before and after 9-11, when the intelligence agencies were even more overloaded.
I'm sure you remember those stories where Bush was sympathized with Cassandra.
So now I don't remember them either.
We can't wait to hear the excuses when this bunch runs one-sixth of our economy when they take over the healthcare system.
If they think they're overloaded with a bureaucracy now, if they've got an inflow of information that is too hard to put together, I mean, wait until they deal with healthcare.
There's a story in the stack here today.
The IRS, the IRS, plans on answering 71%.
And they put this out as a gold star for themselves.
They plan on answering 71% of telephone calls they get from citizens asking questions this taxpayer season.
Yeah, 71%.
And so some enterprising journalist at some state-controlled news organization decided to put him to the test.
He called the IRS.
He got sloughed off to a couple machines and automated answering services and finally got to a live human being.
His total wait time was in the neighborhood of 15 minutes just to the IRS to find out an answer to a tax question, income tax form question.
14 minutes, 15 minutes.
Now, you imagine when we all have to do this for health care.
Which takes me back to my experience in Hawaii and in the hospital at Queens Medical Center.
MSNBC cannot give this up.
Yesterday, they had a continuing inane discussion on me and medical bills.
And then they say, you know what?
Rush, we heard Rush today.
And Rush, he's now on the side of the Democrats.
That's what they said.
Listen to this.
Rush Limbaugh is back and healthy, according to the conservative radio host, and so is America's health care system.
Rush returned to his show today after that hospital stop in Hawaii.
Limbaugh had reported chest pains.
Well, today, he did not hold back, as you can expect.
He said he paid for his own bills.
He's a multi-millionaire and actually saved 35% on his bill by doing so.
I know that not everybody can do it under the current structure of our system, which is my real point.
Real reform of the health care system would involve nothing like what we have done in the House and Senate.
Cost control, increasing access to health care.
Is Rush kind of changing his tune?
At first, it was nothing is wrong with our system, and now he is bringing up what the Democrats have said all along.
It's a cost issue.
He's a multi-millionaire.
What he is able to do is not what's affordable to everyone else.
What I do not know how to react to this and stay calm.
In the first place, yes, multi-millionaire.
But what this cost me, and I've been advised, you know, Rush, you know how irritated we get when people start telling us how much what they have caused.
Yeah, yeah, I understand that.
But I'm just telling you, you don't have to be a millionaire to be able to pay for what I was charged for my hospital stay in Hawaii.
And when she says here, what he's able to do is not what's affordable to everyone.
Not true.
To the vast majority of people, this would be affordable.
It's just a choice.
I mean, this was more affordable than the car.
This was more affordable than a house by far.
This was more affordable than some people's media rooms that they put in.
So, you know, this continues.
This is part of the class envy here that only the super wealthy can afford to go to the hospital.
It isn't true.
It does boil down to choice.
I thought long and hard about whether to bring this back up because I was, I got not many, but I got some emails yesterday afternoon and last night in the subscriber email at my website chastising me for being out of touch, for bragging about being able to pay for my health care when so many people can't.
And it's just especially a down economy.
And you're just, you're really rushed.
You just, you've lost all sensitivity to the pain and suffering out here.
I'm surprised that you blah, blah, blah.
And I thought about it.
I got to deal with this.
Because I don't think that those people were actually conservatives.
I think they were spam emailers or seminar emailers.
But, you know, it's, and I realize I'm on a tough challenge here and probably going to lose it because we've had 50 years to establish a mindset which basically has most people believing that health care ought not cost anything or it should cost very little.
And when somebody comes along like me and accepts the responsibility of paying for it, look at I'm one of the 47 million uninsured and I'm, look at me in one way, I'm providing leadership.
I'm advocating a system get reformed so that people can afford it, that there be a relationship between the patient and the provider and the hospital without some middleman or two where people could actually afford it just as they're able to afford other services throughout our economy.
But you hear here that multi-millionaire, only Limbaugh could afford that.
That's such a misrepresentation of the truth.
I'll just tell you, if you can afford a car, you can afford what I did in the hospital.
If you can afford a pretty expansive media room, you can afford what I spent in the hospital.
And with all the tests and everything else, I just, if you can afford an SUV, you could have gone to the hospital three or four times.
It's just a matter of choice.
It's no matter what you want to budget for and pay for.
But Rush, we got to have a car to get to work and we've got to have a house.
And so we have what everybody says they got to have health care too.
But people don't prioritize it the way they do the way they do other things.
Now, the real funny thing in this soundbite was that they quote me as saying there's nothing wrong with the U.S. health care system.
But what I was talking about in Honolulu was, that was, I got private health care.
There's no similarity to what Obamacare is going to be to what I got.
I was in a private hospital.
I had private care.
There was nothing statewide about it.
I didn't access any Honolulu or Hawaii State program.
I didn't access any federal program.
It was just me and the doctors and the nurses and the hospital administrators.
I didn't have to ask permission.
They treated me and so forth.
And so then yesterday, explaining, this is how they take things out of context, explaining that what we need in this healthcare system is to reacquaint the association of customer patient to provider.
Just like when you check into a hotel, you don't have a middleman.
You don't have insurance.
You don't have a bureaucrat.
You don't have to ask permission.
You check in a hotel you can afford.
You buy a car you can afford.
You buy a house you can afford.
Right now, people are afraid they can't afford health care.
Most people can.
It just depends on what you want to spend if you're willing to pay for it.
And that, again, gets to the problem that most people do believe there's a moral entitlement to perfect health care without paying for it.
I don't know anything in this country that gets done or happens without somebody getting paid for it.
And that's true in healthcare.
Somebody's getting paid everywhere along the line.
And somebody who wants the results and not pay anything for it is the problem.
I refuse to let you liberals out there paint me as the problem because I have assumed the responsibility of paying for what I got.
I was telling some friends last night, it's funny.
It is hilarious.
I'm a bad guy.
I'm a bad guy because I paid for it.
I'm a bad guy.
I'm insensitive because I announced that I could pay for it and that I did pay for it.
And what my hope is, is that everybody someday would be able to pay for it like we used to.
When I was a kid, this whole system has been destroyed.
And I'm talking about the payment system and the cost system, not the quality of care.
The whole cost system has been destroyed because of government involvement.
Medicare, Medicaid, all of these things.
It's, you know, wipe it all out and start over.
Or, well, that's not feasible, but introduce some reforms, health savings accounts, and so forth that start the process of creating competition among doctors and hospitals.
It works every time it's tried.
Bring prices down and make them realistic.
Yeah, it's just, but these people say, is Rush changing his tune?
At first, there's nothing wrong, and now he's bringing up what the Democrats have said, cost issue.
The Democrats are saying it's a cost issue, but Ms. Hall, this is Tamron Hall at MSNBC, no costs are going to go down.
There are not going to be significantly new people insured.
This is not a health care bill.
It is a multiple tax increase bill disguised as a health care bill.
It is not going to lower anybody's cost.
It's going to threaten people with jail.
You're going to be required to buy insurance or face a $15,000 fine.
I don't know how anybody with half a brain who studies this can possibly say it's going to reduce costs.
If it were, folks, very simple, if this were the bonanza, if this were the pies de résistance that they're talking about, everybody would be for it.
Now, Ms. Hall, let me ask a question.
Let's say I'm not a multi-millionaire.
Let's say that I'm an illegal alien.
Or better yet, Tamron Hall, let's say that I'm a Yemeni terrorist.
I'm being held by authorities.
They would all get the same treatments and procedures and medicines that I received.
Everybody in the same circumstance in Hawaii who had had the same thing happen to them would have gotten the same identical stuff that I got.
The ambulance ride, the testing, the medicines, the attention from the doctors.
The only difference is that I paid for it.
The only difference is I don't expect or ask for freebies.
And all of a sudden, I'm the bad guy, according to all these liberals in the media.
I'm the bad guy.
I'm insensitive.
I'm out of touch.
You know what I should have done?
I should have walked out of there and not paid.
I should have said, the American taxpayer is going to take care of this.
I'm a big-time celebrity.
I'm a powerful, influential member of the media.
Let Obama pay for it.
Let the government pay for it.
That's what I should have said.
That's what Obama's voters are saying.
Obama's voters, oh, yeah, let the rich pay for it.
I shouldn't have to pay for health care.
Let Obama pay for it out of his stash.
No, I paid for it.
And somehow that's bragging.
Somehow that's being insensitive.
A quick timeout.
We'll be right back after this.
Sit tight.
In fact, ladies and gentlemen, let me make one more point about this.
As you know, I choose not to have health care insurance.
And a lot of people say, why don't you have health care insurance?
I said, well, very simple.
I don't like dealing with bureaucracies.
I don't like filling out a bunch of forms and so forth.
And I just, if I don't have to, I'll self-insure where I can.
I just don't want to mess with it.
I want to go to the doctor, pay for it, and get out of there.
If I have to go to hospital, ditto.
But now some people, a lot of people, have health insurance.
And as such, what happened to me would cost them even less than it cost me.
I mean, what are you spending $6,000 a year for your premium or $8,000 or whatever your benefit is where you work?
But you've got a deductible of some point.
You've got to copay.
You've got some amount you have to pay.
But for those of you who have insurance, you don't have to have a multi-millionaire to get the treatment I got.
This is just absurd and it's obscene that they want to continue to cloud the health care delivery system in this country the way they do.
If you have a high-deductible insurance policy, then you would have paid even less out of pocket than I did.
Now, you would have been charged 30% more in total because I got a 35, 30% discount for not going through insurance, but still, it's an American situation.
We have freedom.
I can choose not to have insurance until for now.
I'm glad this happened before Obamacare goes into play because I'm going to have to have insurance or pay a fine or maybe go to jail if I don't.
Here's Jay in Northern Virginia.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Thank you for waiting.
Brush, on behalf of my beautiful wife, my brother Dave, and my parents and millions of listeners, welcome back to the airwaves.
It's a pleasure to hear you on the radio again.
Thank you, sir, very much.
There's a reason that the president and our security officials are concerned about the Detroit bomber.
80 grams of patents detonated over a wingspar would have brought the plane down.
And I don't think America knows how close we came to losing that aircraft.
But we're upset in the aviation community.
We want Dennis Blair and Janet Napolitano to explain to us why if Umar was on the watch list and not the no-fly list, why wasn't word given to the flight crew that there was a passenger on board that hadn't gotten his petrol?
The paperwork correct.
We could have isolated the passenger, not made a big scene, but could have isolated him and realized nobody knew there was a bomb on board, but we could have isolated them and secured this man from even trying to detonate the plane.
Well, and we did know after he was on the plane.
That's one of the big stories today.
We knew after he was on the plane.
So we knew exactly as you say, who the guy was.
He was on the plane.
He's on a no-fly list, but his father had also warned everybody, be careful of my son.
He's going loco.
And that dot was not connected.
And now we're hearing, well, that's because President Obama is so overloaded now with a bloated bureaucracy.
And there's so much information coming in.
And this is all necessary to be able to dump all this on George W. Bush.
It's amazing.
We are very concerned in the aviation community.
Please keep up the good work and see if Mr. Blair or Ms. Nepal Talona will call you and let you know why we weren't notified that there was a passenger of interest on a flight that covered 4,900 miles, 10 hours in the air, and nothing.
No word.
Well, look at people are just plain incompetent.
They can call and explain it all they want, but that's the explanation.
By the way, story out of Reuters, a man who described himself as a Palestinian and said that he wanted to kill all the Jews, was hauled off a Detroit-bound Delta Airlines flight in Miami and arrested.
The authorities said today, Mansur Mohammed Assad of Toledo, Ohio began making loud anti-Semitic comments and chanting, apparently in Arabic, I'm Palestinian and I want to kill all the Jews.
I wonder, is anybody going to want to go to Detroit after this?
This is another guy who wanted to go to Detroit.
Folks, I'm going to tell you something.
I'll probably get in big trouble for this.
But if you import people from the third world, you get people from the third world.
Everybody is breathlessly awaiting Obama to speak on the security problems involving the fruit of kaboom bummer.
Breathlessly waiting because of this.
White House National Security Advisor James Jones says Americans will feel a certain shock.
When they read an account being released today of the missed clues that could have prevented the fruit of kaboom bomber from ever boarding the plane.
President Obama is legitimately and correctly alarmed that things that were available, bits of information that were available, patterns of behavior that were available, were not acted on, Jones said in an interview yesterday with USA Today.
That's two strikes, Jones said.
And he said there aren't going to be three.
He doesn't want a third strike, and neither does anybody else.
So the White House is going to release an unclassified report today on what went wrong in the incident involving a 23-year-old Nigerian man.
You want to take any bets that before all of this is explained at the end of the explanation, it's going to have something to do with we inherited from our predecessors.
The French news agency has already set it up.
Oh, poor Obama.
Poor Obama.
The bureaucracy is so big, and there are so many bits of information coming in.
It's just impossible to keep up with.
That's where it's headed.
You wait.
It's going to be problematic.
I don't think this is playing anymore.
I don't think it's selling anymore.
I think a lot of people looking at him as a spoiled little brat continuing to blame Bush.
But when he gets into his second year, after the State of the Union speech, whenever that is.
Oh, you want to know something about that?
There are two dates for this, January 26th, I think, and February 2nd.
It might be the 22nd and the 2nd.
And the White House has to decide which of the following two shows they want to delay.
The season premiere of Lost or American Idol.
Whichever night they choose, one of those shows is going to be delayed.
And of course, they're very sensitive to it because the fans of those two shows are rabid, Lost and American Idol.
And I think what's going to happen, folks, you lost fans are the ones that are going to get creamed here.
They're not going to preempt American Idol.
Obama does not want to have lower TV ratings than some other show on at the same time.
So that's what they'll do.
Back to the phones we go.
This is Bill Aiken, South Carolina.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir.
Thank you for taking the call.
I don't know what the report's going to have today, but I don't think Americans should be shocked.
And the reason is because if the boss is interested, the workers are interested.
Obama treats the security of this country and his responsibilities as a commander-in-chief as unwanted diversions.
His first priority is domestic.
He wants to change the fabric of the country.
And anything that interferes with that is treated as an unwelcome annoyance.
Amen.
That's exactly right.
You could tell when he came out, what was it, four days after the Christmas Day bombing effort that he didn't want to be there.
He was annoyed.
He resented being there.
And this man has no interest, first and foremost, in terms of being commander-in-chief.
He wants to be domestic in chief, nothing more, nothing less.
I think that's exactly right.
I think all this stuff, Afghanistan, everything to do with foreign policy, national security is an inconvenience, a political inconvenience.
And you're right.
It was three days after the Christmas bomber incident happened, and it was a very short press conference.
No emotion whatsoever.
Couples it with a big screw-up and now this big report.
But I agree with you.
Nobody ought to be shocked because this guy has, we can't even, he can't even pronounce the name Al-Qaeda.
We've got this guy.
You realize what a treasure trove of information this guy would be.
This guy met with an imam.
This guy probably has connections to Al-Qaeda, but we're not going to get anything out of him because we're treating him as an American citizen with constitutional rights.
We're going to indict him.
We're going to charge him instead of treating him as an enemy combatant as a terrorist.
And so we're totally blowing any opportunity to learn anything from this guy.
One other thing, and I'll let you go.
You're talking about throwing the counterterrorism chief under the bus because he went back to the ski slope.
But Obama went back to the golf course and he's the commander-in-chief.
He's the one that took the oath of office to protect this country, people, in terms of foreign and domestic enemies.
Now, what's the difference?
In fact, I agree with you.
And people are calling for Napolitano's head over this same incident.
And people have properly pointed out: hey, she's not the problem.
The guy who put her there is the problem.
The guy choosing all of these incompetences is the problem.
And as you point out, the guy acting as though he's inconvenienced by all this is the problem.
Now, Michael Issakoff in Newsweek, President Obama's decision to suspend sending any detainees being held in Guantanamo Bay back to Yemen was politically a no-brainer, a senior administration official tells Newsweek.
But the move will do more than complicate Obama's commitment to shut down the base.
It has raised new questions about whether the facility will be shuttered at all, at least in the first term of Obama's presidency.
I'm beginning to think that Guantanamo is not ever going to be closed, says John Bellinger, the top State Department lawyer under Condoleezza Rice and a persistent advocate of shutting down Gitmo.
Given the current political obstacles, I would bet some money that it's not going to get closed in the Obama presidency.
If I may, and I really don't like doing this, but I must tell you, my friends, before Obama was inaugurated, I said he's not going to close Gitmo and he's not going to get out of Iraq.
And people said, how do you know?
And I said, because no matter how they articulate their position on Iraq or Afghanistan or terrorism now, meaning during the Bush presidency, if they could saddle Bush with the defeat, if they could secure a temporary pull out, a premature pull out of Iraq so that they could say we lost, then they would do that.
But they're not going to saddle themselves with what appears to be a military defeat.
Just like even in Afghanistan, where Obama says he is uncomfortable with victory, he's still sending some troops.
It may be for show, but he's not pulling out of there.
And he's not pulling out of Iraq.
And now he's not going to get out of Gitmo.
And I knew, I knew it because I know these people.
And this is going to really tick off the base.
But big deal, where are they going to go?
They're certainly not going to, I mean, the radical leftists are not going to end up voting a Republican ever, but this is really going to tick them off.
And in this Issakov story, by the way, moving these guys, we're going to send them to Yemen, but we're not, because one in five of them, to get one in five, 20% of the people who have been released from Guantanamo Bay have rejoined terrorist groups.
20%.
And people are surprised at this.
And I wonder why.
What's the recidivism rate when you let people out of prison?
Do they go back to crime?
A majority of them do.
Most are not rehab.
Most of them get back on the crime gravy train.
Why should terrorists be any different?
Well, the only reason you might think they wouldn't go back and join terrorist groups is if you think they're not terrorists in the first place.
And if you're a radical, stupid leftist, you might believe that.
Because you might believe that Bush were just rounding up people that look like Middle Eastern types and putting them in Guantanamo Bay because Bush is profiling and Bush is discriminating and Bush is playing cowboy and Bush is charging putting innocent people in jail and not charging them with anything.
It's an outrage.
It's so violating our values and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We heard all of that.
So 20% of them go back to terrorism.
And we're shocked.
The only way you could be shocked is if you thought they were just innocent little lambs in there and were illegally imprisoned and their human civil rights were being violated.
What Isikoff points out, now we're going to send these people, some of them, to the Chicago prison.
Oh, speaking of that, we're going to send these people to Chicago prison.
But if you read Issakoff's story, sending them to that Illinois prison will do nothing to change their status.
They are still going to be held there without being charged.
So we're just going to create Gitmo North so that Obama can save face.
And, you know, closing Guantanamo Bay has nothing to do with anything substantive.
It's just, you're going to continue to say they're going to close it because it was Bush's.
And they survive.
They thrive on the theory that everybody hated Bush and that they have no desire to, in any way, shape, manner, or form look like George W. Bush.
So they got to close Gitmo and all this other.
In fact, the former Attorney General, Mr. McCasey, has a critique in the Wall Street Journal today about Obama's handling of the fruit of kaboom bomber.
And here's the conclusion.
What the gaffes, the almost comically strained avoidance of such direct terms as war and Islamist terrorism, and the failure to think of this guy as a potential source of intelligence rather than simply as a criminal defendant seem to reflect is that some in the executive branch are focused more on not sounding like their predecessors than they are on finding and neutralizing people who believe it is their religious duty to kill us.
And that's too bad, because the Constitution vests the executive power not some of it, all of it in the president.
He and those acting in his direction are responsible for protecting us.
There is much to worry about if they think that the principal challenge of the day is detecting bombs at the airport, rather than activity searching out, finding and neutralizing terrorists before they get to the airport.
And that is right on the money.
So mr Mccasey thinks that they have such hatred for Bush and they believe everybody else has such hatred for Bush that that they are going to do anything to avoid looking like Bush, which means go soft on national security.
Go soft on prosecuting and treating terrorists as actual criminals, or rather enemy combatants.
So probably not going to close Gitmo.
We are going to move some people to Illinois to create jobs for Dick Durbin, but they're still going to be up there uncharged.
Their status isn't going to change.
Oh, and this.
This is just delicious.
This is from founding bloggers.
An Illinois state panel voted today in favor of letting Governor Pat Quinn close a little-used prison in northwestern Illinois so the Obama administration can use it to hold terrorism suspects now held at Guantanamo Bay.
Meanwhile, three federal prisoners escaped a downstate federal facility in Illinois today.
Is that not just juicy?
Illinois panel votes in favor of the Gitmo plan to bring some prisoners up to that prison in Thompson, Illinois, the same day that three federal prisoners escape a federal prison in southern Illinois.
And to make the point, the seven-page indictment of the fruit of kaboom bomber, the Christmas bomber, the fruit of kaboom bomber, I call it, seven-page indictment.
The word terrorist or terrorism does not show up, not once, not anywhere in the seven-page indictment.
How many of you remember the name Mickey Edwards, Republican in name only from Oklahoma, member of Congress, former member of Congress?
Yesterday he was in Washington at the George Washington University at the Washington Center for Internships and Academic Seminars.
And he's the Aspen Institute vice president now, former Representative Mickey Edwards, Republican, Oklahoma.
And listen to a portion of what he said.
I found often that my constituents who are busy living their own lives, doing the best they can for their families and their careers, didn't have all the information that was available to me or to other members of Congress or to the president.
And some of what they got, they were getting from really deep intellectual sources like Wikipedia or Rush Limbaugh.
You have to, on important matters, sometimes you have to say, I listened to my constituents.
I took them seriously.
They're just wrong.
Now, he is suggesting that members of Congress tell their constituents that they, you, are wrong on health care.
I play this soundbite for you because it was mere moments ago, actually, I think in the last hour, somebody called another question.
Rush, why aren't the Republicans saying anything?
Why aren't they in there fighting for us?
And I said, because three reasons.
A, they have become of Washington, and it's Washington's the center of the universe, and you're not in the center of the universe.
Second thing is they're frightened, they're afraid, scare off the moderates, or to be called racists if they criticize Obama.
The third thing, and this is directly in relation to what Mickey Edwards just said.
The third thing is, I know every Democrat up there is governing against the will of the American people.
Every Democrat holds average Americans in contempt.
They don't think they're smart enough, sophisticated enough, educated enough, all that.
They're just rubes.
They're kooks.
They think if you call Washington, you're a kook.
You're an idiot.
They've talked to you on the phone.
You rant and rail and so forth.
They don't think you represent people that are really real Americans and they work, people are really working, as he said here, living their lives, doing the best for their families, don't have time to harass members of Congress.
So they adopt this notion that you're just a kook.
And I don't know to what extent Republicans do, but I do know that sometimes legislators, state governments as well, will circle the wag and say, ah, those people outside are just a bunch of wackos.
That's not representative of the country.
And that's why they don't listen to you.
And here's Mickey Edwards essentially confirming that theory that you don't know nearly what he knew when he was in Congress.
And you certainly can't know it if what you know comes from me or Wikipedia, which is a huge insult, compare me to Wikipedia.
But nevertheless, I play the soundbite just so you can see you're wrong.
He wants these guys, he wants these people in Congress to run around and tell you that you're wrong.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back after this.
By the way, folks, don't doubt me on this stuff.
Look at the disdain that all the people who showed up last August at these town halls hosted by members of Congress.
Look at the disdain both shown by the media and by members of Congress.
I mean, you are a problem.
You wonder why they don't listen to you.
There is a cabal.
It's a mindset of sort of like us versus them, meaning they are the us versus all of us.
And it's pervasive, I think.
And I think it's one of the reasons why now they just shut off the phones.
They know, and in this case, it's the Democrats.
They know you don't want health care.
They don't care.
You are an idiot anyway.
You're just a bunch of kooks.
You don't know what's good for you.
And even if you did, it doesn't matter.
These people now approach in their own minds a status of near royalty and infallibility.
And they have had a lifelong dream of socializing health care ever since FDR.
A lifelong dream.
Here they are on the precipice of it.
And in fact, they're going to do this as much as anything not to lose, not to lose to the conservatives or Republicans as much as they are to get it done.
A quick timeout.
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