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Dec. 22, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 22, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 Podcast.
The views expressed by the host on this program now documented to be in the latest opinion audit almost always right 99.5% of the time.
And I am your host, Rush Limboa from the Limboy Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Great to have you with us.
Telephone number is 800-282-2882, the email address, L Rushbow at EIBNet.com.
And instant, an instant C, I told you so.
Mere moments ago from behind this very EIB microphone.
I said to you that shortly next year, I didn't even take that long.
The Democrats would be talking about what a great and historic President Barack Obama was.
After 100 years of sweat and toil to bring national health care and affordable health care to every citizen, it was Barack Obama who was able to pull it off this afternoon on PMS NBC Live.
The anchor was interviewing the governor of Virginia, well, the former governor Tim Cain said, uh Governor Michael Steele been slamming the party line vote with some very colorful language during a conference call with reporters took aim at Democrats.
Begin with his claim the American people don't want this.
What's your reaction to that part of his rant?
Here's my point about his rant.
He can try to be the Grinch that stole Christmas, but the passage of this health care reform is going to be the biggest step forward since Social Security or Medicare.
And it's also the biggest deficit reduction bill that's been passed by Congress in the last ten years.
I am just so proud of this president and the Congress for putting the health needs of millions of Americans before the special interests and getting to very, very close to passing this bill.
The Republicans under Chairman Steele's leadership have been trying to delay it, trying to block votes on it, making up stuff about it, but they can't stop progress.
And the American people are the gonna are are going to be the big winners when this bill passes.
I am just so proud of this president.
Just so proud.
And they keep saying, wait, when the American people find out what's in it, they're gonna love this so much.
Why wait?
Tell us what's in it now.
Why do we have to wait to be so happy?
If it's such wonderful stuff, why not tell us now?
By the way, Obama.
He's a team player, folks.
He's a team player this afternoon at the White House after a shakedown with small and a meeting with uh uh small and community bankers.
Uh the president smoked to reporters.
I will not leave until uh my uh friends in the Senate uh have completed their work.
Uh my attitude is is that if they're uh making uh these sacrifices to provide health care to all Americans, then uh the least I can do is to be around and provide them any encouragement and last minute help where necessary.
Oh, so big of our wonderful new president, so big of him.
He's going to delay his vacation to Hawaii uh to stay here to lend any help and encouragement.
He says, Stay in the White House.
Such tough duty to stay in the White House at Christmas time.
I've been to the White House at Christmas time.
It's beautiful.
Such a sacrifice he's making.
Such a sacrifice to give up his well, well, well, yeah, okay.
I take it back.
There is a bit of a sacrifice.
His wife and kids are there, but that's incidental.
There are places you can go to get away from the family in the White House.
There's all kinds of places you can go in there, and they can't find you.
Situation room would be one place, you throw a big party in there.
Call Tiger.
Now, folks, let me address this dispiriting you, because I got I got an email.
I mentioned it uh briefly at the conclusion of the previous hour.
Uh I'm not trying to dispirit anybody.
But I I I must be honest with you about how I think the Democrats are going to play this.
And I have to be honest when I tell you I don't think they care about losing their majority.
That's how committed to this they are.
And I I don't doubt for a minute that health care and health insurance will become the new third rail, just like Social Security.
Every election, they're going to accuse Republicans of wanting to take away your health insurance.
Just like they traditionally accuse Republicans who want to take away uh Social Security.
It's the way they play the game.
Uh now the you know, I think you all should should should keep calling offices, flooding offices with the faxes, emails, and so forth, and do the rallies.
They have helped.
They have made a huge difference.
They delayed this.
This was going to happen in August.
Remember, they wanted all this to happen in August.
And so the the uh the protests did matter.
But but honestly, this isn't the long view.
Um this is a spontaneous grassroots uprising that is happening, Tea Party movement and so forth, that as I say did in fact slow this down, and it will make a difference in November.
Now movements take time to develop.
And the conservative movement, this one, after decades of neglect, is is on the march.
Conservatism is on the ascendancy.
Now, when we face the kind of despotism that we're facing in today's Democrat Party, it takes all kinds of people doing all kinds of things.
The public is energized.
There are people who are willing to go to jail rather than buy, forced to be by health insurance.
They're willing to do it.
There are there are people.
I got a guy waiting to talk to me who's a small business guy in St. Louis.
Let's grab him now.
Jim, Jim in St. Louis, I'm glad you called.
Tell everybody what it is that you are uh suggesting.
Well, Rush, it's very, very great to talk to you.
Thank you.
Long time listener.
Listen, I think uh even though I'd love to talk to you, I want to talk to small business in this country.
I think small business could stop this uh health care debt in its tracks.
All we have to do is small business for a short-term uh pain for a long-term gain is shed your pay just shed your payrolls down fifty percent.
Let's overrun the unemployment offices to where they cannot deal with this crisis and let them know that we as small businesses in this country are the ones in charge, and without our money, they can't do any of this.
We are the ones that allow them to do to us what they are doing.
If we quit sending our money to these people, they cannot implement these programs.
They work for us.
We do not work for them.
I'm tired.
I've run a company for almost thirty years.
I'm in the house housing market and I manufacture window products.
And I can tell you this.
I know that everybody in this time is hurting.
But you know what?
For about two weeks, we could bring Washington to their knees.
Okay.
Snurdley, Dawn, Brian, you're fired.
Do not come back.
You are going on the unemployment line next year.
We're gonna flood.
This is what it's gonna take.
Would you do it?
Would if you were if you were an employee, would you accept being fired on the principle?
Yes.
I'm looking at my family and what's gonna affect me the next thirty years of my life.
What what if you don't take a stand for two or three weeks to what's gonna affect you for the next three or thirty years of your life while you're alive.
What are you gonna do about your parents when this passes?
Well, now wait a minute.
Well wait a minute.
What's to say it's just two or three weeks that people are gonna be unemployed.
Rush, we pay payroll taxes every week to the coffers of the federal government.
Every week.
You start drying that up.
The only way that they can do anything is with our money.
And the only way they get our money is we have employment.
And the time you start taking away the withholding, you quit paying them to Social Security, you quit matching unemployment benefits, you quit doing that.
They do not have the money in the state of Illinois right now where I have my business to even keep uh unemployment checks current.
I know.
Chicago has had to shut down for budgetary research, city of Chicago.
Now, the the uh here here's the thing.
When you're dealing with with rational people uh in government, this makes great theoretical sense, but this month should just turn on the printing presses, which is what they're doing now.
They won't be they will not be able to sustain.
They need unemployment numbers not to be at 500,000.
They need them to be at 1.5 million for a week.
And then panic is gonna have to set in to let them know look, business of this country runs this nation.
You don't.
And either you come back down to the table and talk to us.
We as business people across this country have to make them come to us.
And then maybe we can get a dialogue.
The way we're going about it now, there will be no dialogue.
And the only way there's no dialogue now is we keep sending them our money.
Well, that's because people have to eat.
Now I look at I I I philosophically I I admire what you're saying, and I it'd be great to be able to someway deny them this money, but at the same time, people have to eat.
They have to feed their kids.
So you're suggesting go on unemployment, get by with just what do you get on unemployment for a while just to make the case.
Run uh real unemployment numbers way, way up like triple them to send a message.
That's correct.
Because there's one thing for sure.
When this takes effect, the unemployment numbers are gonna go up because the employers aren't gonna go along with it when it does go into effect.
But that's either or later.
That's that's the design.
That's the design to get them going to government for the health insurance and for their health coverage.
That's we have to reverse the design.
We have to give them the design before they get it passed.
I sit here thinking, certainly sending me a note, Jim, suggesting the AP lead headline tonight will be Limbaugh calls for one million to be fired before Christmas Day.
New York Times Limbaugh fires millions.
Washington Post, women and children hardest hit.
Well, I I can understand that, but I think the American people ha have gone through a lot of pain right now, and I don't think the pain is as great as it's gonna be here in the future.
Well, now that is that is a point.
It is going to get worse.
There's no question.
I this is a tough call, but what I what what I want to emphasize about what Jim said here is that we still do run this country.
We still do run the country.
This kind of action is not unprecedented.
We've had the Boston Tea Party and any number of other things.
I want to I want to find for you in my stack.
Let me take a break and find it.
I'm gonna find just the the tipping point for the founding fathers to say enough and rebel against the crown to found this country.
Jim, thanks very much for the call.
A brief uh time out, go by lickety split, and we'll be right back.
Okay, small business caller from St. Louis.
It's Jim was his name, correct.
What what Jim is uh without realizing it, what Jim was advocating was a leftist strategy to destroy the country, and it's called Cloud Piven, and and these are these are people uh Saul Olinski bought into them, they go way, way back.
They they predata Linsky, and uh Obama is a is a big believer.
I think now uh allow me the opportunity to be wrong on this.
I think they were Columbia University types.
Cloud Priven.
The idea was to flood the welfare system, flood the welfare state to make it collapse to bring on a revolution.
Now the kind of revolution Cloud Piven want is a revolution not where the people run the show, but where the people have nothing to say about anything.
Just flood the system to prove it doesn't work and make and then get everybody worthless, powerless, with nothing, with only the government to come in and save the day.
That's their theory on it.
Now, Jim's theory of the outcome is different.
The government would have to cave uh to uh the the uh the the utter they be it's like when France the people in France go on strike.
When they get they get ticked off, they just go on strike.
This is it, there are any number of ways of uh of pulling this off.
Just don't go to work.
Now you gotta you gotta make sure that you don't get paid when you go to work, and you've got to be willing not to get paid uh if if you want to do this.
I mean it doesn't require a a huge huge commitment.
Here's Tanya in Marion, Illinois who wants to weigh in on it.
Great to have you here.
Hello.
Oh my God, Russ, what a privilege, and I am so thankful I'm calling after Jim.
Thank you.
I am a caseworker in Southern Illinois, and I'm probably gonna lose my job over this.
I want to kind of caseworker.
I am a welfare case worker.
I hand out food stamps.
Okay.
Hand out food stamps and medical cards.
You follow Jim.
You dis you uh lower those tax rolls by fifty percent.
They all hit the food stamp, the Department of Public AIDS.
They come in, they get food stamps, they get free medical.
State of Illinois, you get free medical.
If you got kids in the home and you make less than, you know, X amount of dollars, and if you're on unemployment, you get it automatically.
It'd destroy the food stamp, which is, of course, everybody knows Department of Agriculture, which is yours and my tax dollars, it would drive the you know our our state's in close to bankruptcy as it is.
It is a joke.
But if they follow Jim and then they all hit the public aid offices to make a point about this what they're doing to Congress.
Ross I've I've listened to you for 15 years.
I worked at Boatman's Trust Company in St. Louis prior to that I was a Citicorp in St. Louis.
I have followed you I have I have personally had lunch with your cousin in Cape Girardo and when he was running the bank at Boatman's down there.
Due to a seizure disorder, I have had to go to the state where I am a union employee, though I pay the non union dues, they hate me because of that.
But um I am now protected.
They cannot fire me.
Now of course my salary is dropped in half but that's beside the point.
I have a job they can't fire me.
And um I just I I am just I've taught my kids the best I can I've listened to you forever a thousand times I have called you and this could not have been the it was the most opportune opportunity to for snertling to take my call.
Opportune time for you to get through well you know yesterday we had a story about food stamps and how more Americans than ever are on them and the poverty level is at an all-time high and there was the the story was about how businesses are adjusting to the to the first of the month or the end of the month when the government dumps the food stamp benefits on these people's debit cards.
Oh you bet the grocery stores absolutely just for your listeners I I am college educated Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, bachelors um SLU MDA, okay?
And I'm making fifty grand a year.
Okay?
That's it, but that's okay.
That's okay.
I'm doing just fine.
I have taken a second job at a grocery at a little convenience store called Hucks.
I work twenty to twenty six hours a week to put groceries on my table.
But Rush what eats me up more than anything in this world is when they talk about the obesity problem they talk about how everybody's obese guess who comes in to the little grocery stores and the little hucks in the convenience stores across this nation and they buy the candy and they buy the Red Bulls.
I've never in my life tried Bred Bull because I can't afford a three dollar and fifty cent energy drink you own a try it with vodka.
Well we don't sell liquor at the little store I work at but I work I work 40 hours a week at my real job and 20 to 26 hours a week on my second job and I barely have food for my two kids.
It is a joke.
And they come in there, and they go crazy because they've never had to pay for it themselves ever.
Well, I know, see, but this is the point about all this.
The point about all this is that this is the greatest country with the greatest economy in the history of humanity.
And yet the poverty level is at an all-time high.
Under whose tutelage?
The Democrats have been running all the spending since 2007.
Obama is the president.
and and now we've got a record poverty rate we have a record number of people on food stamps and we have the federal government making working with business to timely dump these food stamp and other benefits on their debit cards and then they head to the stores to stock up when that happens.
My theory is that this is by design to make as many people in this country dependent as possible.
And so there are people I mean I I'm I maintain to you that if your strategy were implemented that if we added to the unemployment rolls one million people next week rather than the five hundred thousand that are going to show up, that there are people in the Democrat Party who would rub their hands together and go, all right.
All right.
They may not understand what's going on if it was part of a part of a movement, but believe me, this is the hideous nature of this.
The chaos that we're seeing has been created.
The chaos is on purpose.
The employment situation is on purpose.
Everything that Obama has done since he took office has been contraindicative of what to do to create jobs.
He is doing just the opposite of what's necessary to create jobs.
He is he is stifling investment.
He is giving his offering no incentive whatsoever.
He's got these health care plans and cap and trade lurking in the future.
People who are going to be responsible for investing in business or lending money to people have no idea what the rules are going to be.
This is by design.
This economy is coming to a slowdown.
And the difference is that it's on purpose.
I I and a lot of people don't want to believe this because they can't understand why anybody would want to do it.
All you have to do is look at what they're doing with health care to understand it.
It's power, it's control, and it's power in perpetuity for them.
The more people who have these debit cards every month, waiting for the government to load them up with benefits so they can go to the hooks and pick up some red bull and candy, the happier people like Obama are.
I mean, it's hideous.
These people are anathema to the uh traditions, institutions that uh that have made this country grow.
It's not just people are going to be looking at what they're eating.
You wait till somebody has a big screen TV next door to you when they're illegal and they call a government on you.
I mean, it citizens are going to be pitted against citizens once this health care thing passes.
It's disastrous.
Serving humanity just by showing up, Rush Limbaugh, executing a signed host duties flawlessly, zero mistakes.
Cloud Priven was indeed from Columbia University.
Cloud Piven's strategy is a political strategy outlined by Richard Cloud and Francis Fox Pivon.
They were both sociologists and political activists at Columbia University School of Social Work, and they wrote about their theory in the nation in 1966.
And they here would the argument was that many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would create a political crisis that would force U.S. politicians, particularly the Democrat Party, to enact legislation establishing a guaranteed national income.
These people were anti-free market, they were anti-capitalists, they were pro-statists, doing everything they could with their with their strategy here to uh uh blow up the country as it existed.
And exists.
Same thing with the with Saul Alinsky.
Now, you don't I don't think you would even need to lay off workers to do this.
Just don't send the tax payments to Washington.
That would be one way of doing this.
Because Jim in St. Louis was right.
I mean, the the feds rely on on all those payroll taxes from all these businesses, sales tax and all this.
If every business just banded together and said we're not sending the money, just stop sending it.
Put it in an escrow account.
The feds do not have the personnel to even attempt to collect those taxes.
Well, that's the thing.
But no, that would be unrest they would have to deal with.
Here's the next AP headline after calling for mass firings, Limbaugh calls for mass tax evasion uh two days before Christmas.
Probably right.
That's probably what's gonna happen.
I'm sitting here thinking about Tom Friedman, this little punk who goes over to Copenhagen, talks about how wonderful Copenhagen is, comes back here and describes what a rotten place we are.
It's like leaving the Jetsons and returning to the Flintstones.
Freedman is the perfect example, folks, of a statist.
He's wealthy.
He married into his wealth, by the way.
He married into it.
He lives on several acres on an estate.
He travels the world on an expense account.
He eats the finest foods, but he doesn't produce anything.
It's like Obama.
He produces nothing but words.
He appreciates nothing.
He acts like he's leading some kind of revolution against the very society that enables a person like him to succeed.
Totally ungrateful for what this country has made possible for him.
He hasn't produced diddly squat.
He's out there thinking he's leading a revolution, one of the smartest guys walking the planet, Copenhagen.
Yeah.
That's the Jetsons.
It flies back to Newark.
Why, that's the Flintstones.
The straw that broke the founding fathers' backs.
The intolerable acts of 1974.
The British government responded by I mean, when you listen to this stuff, these intolerable acts, this is the stuff that broke Campbell's back for the founders.
And this makes what's happening today seems like child play.
The British government responded by sev uh passing several acts which came to be known as the Intolerable Acts, which further darkened colonial opinion toward the British.
They consisted of four laws enacted by the British Parliament.
The first was the Massachusetts Government Act, which altered the Massachusetts Charter and restricted town meetings.
That ticked them off.
That's why freedom to associate is in the Constitution, because it was restricted.
The second act, the Administration of Justice Act, ordered that all British soldiers to be tried were to be arraigned in Britain, not in the colonies.
That ticked them off.
The third act was the Boston Port Act, which closed the port because uh Port of Boston because uh well until the British had been compensated for the tea lost in the Boston Tea Party.
By the way, the British never got their payment, but they shut it down.
That ticked them off.
And the fourth act was the Quartering Act of 1774, which allowed royal governors to house British troops in the homes of citizens without requiring permission of the owner.
Those were the four things that sent the founding fathers over the edge.
They already escaped for freedom of religion.
So that was already in the deck.
Now these things seem like child's play compared to what is happening today.
And I I have to, you know, the the the people ask me all the time, Rush, do you think that there would ever be a revolution?
Let me just tell you this.
Here's the third AP headlines, nerdly.
I do think the American citizens, and their anger is going to translate into some sort of citizen action.
You can feel it percolating in every one of these phone calls that we've taken for the past six months here.
I I rebel, maybe I don't know how it manifests itself.
I I I don't you know, firing people, laying people off, not paying taxes, it could be any of any of these things, but it's gonna be something huge.
I don't pretend to know uh what it is.
But with all of the millions of Americans out there asking, what can I do?
Snerdley, tell me the truth.
Every call, if you chose to, could you could put up there for the past two months would have been what can I do?
Every single call could have been, what can I do?
Everybody out there wants to know what they can do, and at some point this is going to translate into action.
Fourth AP headline uh tonight.
Uh Limbaugh calls for Obama overthrow.
Amidst economic recovery.
They'll throw that in there.
Uh but everybody asking, what can I do?
That the fact that so many people are asking the question will produce the perfect response.
And it's if it's going to be some sort of refusal to obey.
It's going to be rooted in in some sort of refusal to obey some of these un-American dictates that are being called house health care legislation, Senate health care legislation, cap and trade, whatever it is.
You know, we had the uh we had the rock the vote video, the audio yesterday.
Let these little young socialist youth out there let them go ahead and withhold sex from people who oppose health care.
The adults will withhold consent of the government.
That's what we're gonna do.
You know, they they let them go around there with the Susan Serrana's daughter and play Play uh play games with withholding sex and so forth.
No, no, no, that's what she did.
They did she and some stupid hair-brained actor have cut a video for rock the vote, and they basically tell people who don't support them on health care, they're gonna be frozen out of the bedroom.
And advocating everybody do that.
Fine, you go play those games.
We will withhold the consent of being governed.
There is gonna be some sort of refusal to obey the quote unquote the crown, refusal to obey the government here.
That's where this is heaven.
That's how un-American this is.
And every time Tom Friedman comes back from some far away eastern European capital, where cell phone coverage gets shut down with a slittle snowfall and starts comparing this country to the Flintstones and that place the Jetstones, people say, fine, stay there, Tom.
If they've got it down, Pat, if they live the way you think we ought to live, go where they live that way.
But that's not them.
We are not them.
This is United States of America.
I just got a note here.
Uh, a press release.
Today, U.S. Senators Jim Dement, Republican South Carolina, John Ensign, Republican Nevada, raised a constitutional point of order on the Senate floor against the health care takeover bill on behalf of the steering committee, which is a caucus of conservative seniors.
The Senate will vote tomorrow on the bill's constitutionality.
Ensign said, I'm I'm incredibly concerned the Democrats' proposed individual mandate provision takes away too much freedom and choice from Americans across the country.
As an American, I felt the obligation to stand up for individual freedom of every citizen to make their own decision on this issue.
I don't believe Congress has the legal authority to force this mandate on its citizens.
Dement said the same thing.
Forcing every American to purchase a product is absolutely inconsistent with our constitution and the freedoms our founding fathers hope to protect.
So now it'll naturally lose.
But it still is a good idea because they're standing up and they're getting it out there.
Well, let's see just how much coverage this gets.
Mr. Snurdly, let's just see how many of the state-controlled media actually spend time reporting that they vote on the constitutionality of the bill.
I expect what will happen is they will report it after the fact and after the Senate has voted that it is constitutional.
Okay, quick timeout before we grab more phone calls.
And I've still got a lot of soundbites.
In fact, there's a teaser.
Audio soundbite number one.
Just to let you know where we are headed, this is uh another C I told you so.
Uh Tom Harkin, Tom Dung Hee Parkin from uh from Iowa, was on CBS early show today.
The co-host Maggie Rodriguez said, even if this happens and it passes the Senate, then you have to reconcile the differences with the House.
Uh that contain a more stringent restrictions on abortion and no public option.
Would you be willing to change your position on either of those two issues?
I am a strong supporter of a public option, remain so, and I believe that sometime in the near future we will revisit that issue again, and we will adopt a public option.
It's not not gonna probably happen on this bill because we need the votes to get the big things through, Maggie.
It's we have to keep our eye on what we're trying to do here.
We're trying to cross a demarcation line.
This is the way I put it.
On one side is health care as a privilege, on the other side is health care as a right.
With these votes, with the vote that we'll take before Christmas, we will cross that line finally and say that health care is a right of all Americans.
And he actually continued on uh uh later on at the press conference and added this to it.
I know a lot of my progressive friends have been upset that certain things weren't in it.
What we're building here is not a mansion, it's a starter home.
But it's got a great foundation for expanding health care coverage to 31 million Americans.
It's got a great protective roof, and it has room for expansion and additions in the future.
But if we don't start the starter home, we'll never get there.
So this is not the end of health care reform.
This is the beginning of health care reform.
Couldn't be any more precisely clear about what they're doing here.
They're headed to single payer, but they got to cross the line of demarcation.
They're being very honest in their confidence.
Now, in case there remains any confusion About whether or not your taxpayer dollars will be used to pay for insurance policies that cover abortion.
Here is Kathleen Sibelius.
That wizard of smart taught us all how to cough properly during the non-existent swine flu epidemic.
Basically destroy your sleeve.
Cough up all the mucus on your sleeve, not in your hand.
And she demonstrated how to do it, and she even chastised some idiot reporter who didn't get it right at a press conference.
During an interview on blogher.com yesterday, Kathleen Sebelius said this.
The Senate language, which was negotiated by Senators Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray, who are very strong defenders of women's health services and choices for women, uh take a big step forward from where the House left it with the Stupak Amendment.
Everybody in the exchange would do the same thing.
Whether you're male or female, whether you're 75 or 25, you would all set aside a portion of your premium that would go into a fund and it would not be earmarked for anything, it would be a separate account that everyone in the exchange would pay.
It's really an accounting uh measure that would apply across the board and not just to women, and certainly not just to women who want um to choose abortion coverage.
So you are going to be forced to make a contribution to the exchange, whether you're 75 or 25, a portion of your premium would go into that fund and it would cover abortions.
Uh making it very clear.
An accounting gimmick, if you it's not even a it you can call it an accounting gimmick.
It's uh sounds more like a uh a policy to me, but if you've had any doubts, okay.
You've had you had uh what was his name, Nelson all worried about the language in the Senate, and you got Stupak all worried about his language over there in the House.
And here's Kathleen Sabilia spelling out how it's going to happen regardless of what the language in the legislation is.
You know, I'm I'm looking at MSNBC.
Here we are engaged in trying to save the country today.
You know what MSNBC is reporting on?
A bunch of experts on what the life is like for the Swahilies or whatever the name of those two that crashed the White House Christmas party.
They're so confused.
The Virginia couple ran family winery that went bankrupt.
They were so wonderful and they're still living down a horrible experience.
Thanks for nothing, MSNBC.
Back to the phones to Cecil Amarillo, Texas.
Welcome, sir.
Hello.
Good morning there, Mr. Limbaugh.
I should say good afternoon.
I'm a former progressive Democrat forced into conversion by being required to watch a television show.
And I agree with you most of the time.
In my position, I'm just going to refuse to purchase health care.
I'm going to make them put me in jail and if they can do the courts.
It violates due process.
My money is my property.
They can't take my property without due process, and they can't put me in jail for a fine.
If I owe a traffic fine, they can't put me in jail for that.
It's unconstitutional.
So I would suggest that people are really upset about it, just force them to put you in jail and take it in front of the courts.
Jury nullification works, and that's basically when the jury says, yeah, you committed the offense, but it was all right to do so.
In a nutshell.
Like the uh OJ jury.
Well, no, because he was there was evidence on both sides of that.
You know, I mean, you could argue that.
No, no, no, I was being lighthearted, but I was trying to illustrate jury nullification.
That jury was going to find him not guilty because the things had nothing to do with the case.
Right.
Well, in this case, jury nullify I'll give you an example.
There was a Navy SEAL down in South Texas, some kids shot his dog.
He chased him through several counties before they were finally apprehended.
He had the opportunity to shoot him and kill him.
And if he'd have gone in front of a jury, the jury would have found him not guilty.
Uh, but he did, you know, he restrained himself.
He's a Navy SEAL, he used his training and he restrained himself.
But had he killed them, no jury in Texas would have found him guilty, even though he had actually committed the offense of murder.
So, same thing here.
If you refuse to purchase health care insurance, people of the jury of similar mind just turn around and say, Well, you're not guilty, irrespective of whatever the state presents evidence.
Wait a second.
Along these lines, I have read some of the bill now.
There are exemptions.
There are religious exemptions for American Native Indians.
There are exemptions for people experiencing financial hardship.
I kid you not.
Now, I I have a question, because I have a naturally inquisitive mind.
If people who are experiencing financial hardship are exempt from having to buy insurance, then how does this bill cover the uninsured?
Aren't we told that most people are uninsured because they can't afford it?
And doesn't this bill really only make people buy insurance?
That's what this is all about.
So if we exempt the very people we're trying to force into insurance, what exactly is being accomplished here?
Hey, folks, you remember that uh that really, really wonderful 3.5% uh GDP growth rate, the third quarter, remember that?
Remember me saying that's not it.
It's gonna be revised downward.
It's been revised downward twice, first at 2.8.
Now it's at 2.2 percent.
If any private sector corporation reported growth and exaggerated it by 60 percent, Obama would have the SEC on their case and try to put the CEOs in jail.
This is a fraud.
This was a fraud around election time.
Frank, it didn't work uh much for the Democrats, but uh and this growth 2.2 percent once again was all government growth.
There was no growth in the private sector.
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