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Dec. 16, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 16, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24 7 Podcast.
Well, imagine that, folks.
Howard Dean is actually making our case for just blowing up the health care bill.
That's coming up in mere moments.
And also Susan Collins, who I focused on yesterday and asked, how is a what's a nice way to call somebody ignorant?
Susan Collins now says the health bill is too deeply flawed for her to support it.
Byron York has it.
And it's interesting.com.
One of the things that really has the uh the left upset about the health care bill.
There are two things in it, really.
Uh well, three, but nobody's focusing much on the third.
The first is a public option coming out.
The left doesn't like that.
The Medicare buy-in or the Medicare expansion.
That's come out, supposedly.
The left doesn't like that.
Uh, and they really don't like that because they think Obama has crawled into bed with big insurance.
Remember now, the left hates companies.
They hate corporations.
And they really hate the fact that Lieberman is seeming to be the guy who's getting everything he wants here.
But there is a third reason, ladies and gentlemen, that the left is fit to be tied.
And that is the Dorgan Amendment.
The Dorgan Amendment would have allowed the reimportation of drugs from Canada at a much cheaper price.
That amendment went down in flames.
And so the whole concept of drug reimportation, which Obama, and we have it on tape, in which Obama supported it.
A number of other Democrats supported it, now it's gone.
So public option, all this is supposedly.
And you take this over to the House, and the House, there's no way the House can reconcile any of this.
But you have you have the public options supposedly gone.
You have the uh Medicare expansion supposedly gone, and now you've got the continuing of expensive drugs.
That's how the left is looking at it, uh, with American corporations who are hated by the left benefiting, and they think they've been sold out.
They think they have been sold out.
And I warned them about this back in August.
We'll get to all that in due course, but I have to start with this.
This is from U.S. SNOOS and World Report.
It hit yesterday afternoon, just after the program.
It's a story about how to live happily on 75% less.
Setting the stage here for, hey, folks, your life is never going to be as prosperous as it once was, and you're gonna have to live to learn or learn to live happily on 75% less.
This is, of course, cover for Obama.
Nine months after getting laid off, Catherine Gores once again became part of the rush hour commute in a way she'd never anticipated.
To pick up extra cash, Catherine Gores took a temporary job handing out flyers, touting the benefits of public transportation in the San Francisco subway system.
Bart.
Occasionally she'd bump into people that she knew from her former job as a creative producer for a Bay Area Communications Company.
They're in their corporate clothes, she recalls, and I'm in this silly t-shirt and hat.
They say, Kathy, is that you?
What are you doing here?
Ugh.
The Great Recession, which is technically over, economists insist, maybe morphing into a broader epic, The Great Humbling.
Millions of Americans who felt prosperous just a few years ago are now coping with long-term unemployment, sharp cutbacks in living standards, foreclosure, bankruptcy, and a deep sense of failure.
And that could persist for years.
This is not like earlier recessions where things fell and they bounced back where they used to be, said Dennis Jacob, a chief economist for the Gallup polling organization.
Oh, wait a minute now.
What why does a polling organization need a chief economist?
I guess so they can be surprised.
I guess so they can these, I guess these are the guys, the experts that are always stunned no matter what the news is.
So uh anyway, whereas I lost my place.
Uh it's not Like earlier recessions.
We haven't seen this before.
It's the only time this has happened since the Great Depression.
For many disenfranchised workers, the new normal is demoralizing.
But some have found fresh career paths, clarified their priorities, and discovered that they're more resourceful than they once thought.
After absorbing the initial shock of being laid off, 37-year-old Gores decided it was a chance to pursue a longtime goal, filming a documentary.
And then the story gets into examples of people.
Now we've we've done many shows on this about the opportunity that being fired, laid off or whatever presents you, if you have the uh the mental capacity to look at it that way.
And that's all fine and dandy.
Uh people pursuing passions they didn't have time for because they were glued or wetted to a job they didn't particularly like, but now they've been laid off and they have no choice.
The thing that's wrong with this is that the conclusion is no matter what you choose to do, no matter how eagerly you follow your dream because you've been fired and laid off, don't worry, you're never going to be as successful as you once thought you were because our country is forever changed.
And I just refuse to accept that.
And all of this is cover for Obama.
And I we're we're getting to a point here.
All these people, um the great humbling millions of Americans who felt prosperous just a few years ago, are now coping with long-term unemployment, sharp cutbacks in living standards, and a deep sense of failure.
Let me tell you something.
If you are one of those people, you've been unemployed for a while and you're looking for work and you can't get any, whatever you do, do not consider yourself a failure.
You are not what's failing here.
What's failing is the Obama administration's attempt to revive the private sector where your job and dream is or used to be.
They're making it tougher.
All the stories we're seeing about how much more per annum federal employees make, all the stories about all of the the the greater benefits packages they have on average than people working in the private sector.
Um it's it's a uh I have a theory about that.
I I actually think that the uh Obama administration and his collection of leftist radicals actually want people to turn away from the private sector, to turn to government.
Because there's an all-out assault on the private sector, and it's being done purposefully, as I have so eloquently and uh uh inarguably presented to you in the uh in the past.
But don't fall for this, folks.
Don't fall for the fact that the uh uh or the the the claim that the glory days are over.
You know, don't go Bruce Springsteen on us here.
This country's gonna need every one of you striving to be the best you can be and overcoming all these obstacles Obama and everybody's putting in the way.
And it still can be done.
But if everybody is is is lulled into a false belief that America that once was no longer America, then Obama and his boys are gonna win.
And we must not allow this to happen.
So continue to do not consider yourself the fave the the failure.
I know it's hard not to.
You keep applying for jobs, you keep being turned down or whatever, the longer it goes, the harder it is to find a job at salary level that you were making when you uh when you lost your job.
But the failure here, the failure is the Obama administration and its policies, which are just making it all that much more difficult for people to uh in the who are unemployed to uh to realize their dreams.
Now, there is one area, of course, Obama has targeted this area for extr with extreme hatred, with extreme animus, and that is Wall Street and Wall Street, the so-called fat cats, are passing out bonuses in record numbers at, say Goldman Sachs, and to avoid any criticism, and I they're not actually handing out uh uh cash bonuses.
What they're doing is giving employees stock that doesn't vest for two or three years or whatever, I forget the exact number of years.
But so the question is, um, do the people on Wall Street, which Obama has supposedly targeted, are they feeling like failures?
Are they uh in any way, shape, manner, or form uh learning to do with 75% less, even though Obama has targeted them for destruction.
I mean, he points fingers and blame at them all the time.
Onto the health care bill, uh, this is kind of funny, Roland Burris, who is the replacement senator for Obama in from Illinois, has vowed that he will not vote for a health care bill that does not include a government-run insurance plan or a public option.
On Monday, after Democrats indicated they were prepared to meet the demands of Joe Lieberman and strip the last vestige of a public option from their bill, Mr. Burris went to the Senate floor to warn that he had not committed to vote for the legislation.
Mr. Burvis did, however, calibrate his language.
I'm committed to voting for a bill that achieves the goals of a public option.
Competition, cost savings, and accountability.
Then you can't vote for this, Roland.
I will not be able to vote for lesser legislation that ignores those fundamentals.
My colleagues may have forged a compromise bill that can get 60 votes.
That'll be needed for it to pass, but until this bill addresses cost competition accountability in a meaningful way, it will not win mine.
So what Burris is doing is he's holding his hand out.
He's saying, okay, Harry Reid, how much you gonna give me?
You gave Landrew 300 million, what did it cost to get Lieberman?
What did Lieberman get out?
If you're handing out money, if you're handing out bribes, if you're handing out walking money, what's my vote worth?
That's what this message is.
You got to understand now they don't like Burris up there.
Burris is is uh is despised uh in in the Senate.
They really didn't want him there in the first place.
And so he's uh he's exacting his revenge.
When we come back, we're gonna start here, we'll get to Howard Dean eventually, because it's a big uh crescendo.
But the drug reimportation and the failure to drug reimport, this has the left.
If you've if you've perused, and I pay people to do this for me because I can't handle it myself.
If you've perused some of these fringe left-wing kook websites, they're they're baddie.
They are angrier at Obama than we are.
They feel sold out.
They are, they want to rip this bill up and they want to start all over.
They want uh the Obama has sold them out.
And of course, like I said yesterday, imagine you voted for this guy believing all the hype, and now you get this.
You get and the reality is, okay, we're supposed to be post-racial, we're supposed to be post-partisan.
We're supposed to all get along.
America's supposed to be loved around the world.
There is more partisanship.
There is a greater political divide in the country today than ever before.
I, of course, predicted it.
Uh Obama's been selling an out left, so he's selling them out by going into Afghanistan, selling them out by not getting out of Iraq, selling them out by not closing Club Gitmo.
And will you hear these Democrats talking about what a great thing it is to have terrorists be moved to a prison in their state in Illinois?
It's just hilarious.
Of course, the climate gate uh uh conference over there at Copenhagen is falling apart.
It has become an absolute laughing stock.
These people can't even run a convention.
And these are the people who tell us they want to run the world in order to save it.
We'll be right back, folks.
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Stay where you are.
Yeah, a lot of people are uh sending me emails about how close the Florida Senate race has become in the polling anyway.
Rasmussen, this is Marco Rubio against the uh incumbent governor Charlie Christ.
And the uh the the top news here is hey, they pulled even 4343.
Marco Rubio came out of nowhere.
Uh is and he is a down-the-line Reagan conservative, and this race is going to be a bellwether.
Uh the uh the Senate race in the state of Florida.
However, if you go to the end of the story, if you dig deep in the Rasmussen uh Christ Rubio story, you find this.
Republican candidates have a seven-point lead over Democrats in the latest edition of the generic congressional ballot.
Seven-point lead.
However, look at me.
However, if a Tea Party candidate is in the race, the picture changes dramatically.
A separate three-way generic ballot test finds the Democrats get 36, The Tea Party candidate picks up 23%, and the Republicans finish third at 18%, which means that the Democrats win.
Now, this Rasmussen is uh is considered by most to be an objective right down the middle polling organization, and getting lost in their polling data on Chris and Rubio is this notion that a third party candidate will simply guarantee a Democrat Party victory.
And I would be remiss in on passing that along to you.
Now the left, I mentioned they are just livid, folks, about the drug reimportation amendment of uh of Helmhead Dorgan being defeated.
Final vote 51 to 48, 60 votes were needed to pass the thing.
Um you go to various websites and you will find a list of all the Democrats who uh who voted to kill this, and uh these fringe cooped leftist websites are targeting them.
Uh the amendment, this is the Washington Post.
The amendment sponsored by Senator Dorgan would allow pharmacies and wholesalers to import U.S. approved medication from Canada, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and Japan, where drug costs are far lower because of price controls.
The measure has attracted bipartisan support from lawmakers, including Olympia Snow and John McCain.
But the pharmaceutical industry, which has been a key supporter of health care reform after reaching an agreement with Obama, has responded with a fierce lobbying campaign aimed at killing the proposal, focusing on Democrat senators from states with large drug and research sectors.
They are livid out there.
Here's why.
We go back to Obama, audio soundbite number one, October 4th, 2008, Newport News, Virginia.
Then we'll tell the pharmaceutical companies.
Thanks, but no thanks for overpriced drugs.
Drugs that cost twice as much here as they do in Europe and Canada and Mexico.
We'll let Medicare negotiate for lower prices.
We'll stop drug companies from blocking generic drugs that are just as effective and far less expensive.
We'll allow the safe reimportation of low-cost drugs from countries like Canada.
Number two, we're gonna focus on prevention, on promoting wellness rather than just managing sickness.
As I said, ladies and gentlemen, the left is livid with Obama because he sold them out on this promise by cutting a deal with Big Pharma.
And from the Chicago Defender, August 11th, 2004.
Democrat Senator or Democrat Senate candidate, Barack Obama, and Republican rival Alan Keyes managed to agree on at least one thing Tuesday.
Both support legalizing pharmaceutical drug imports to spare Americans the higher U.S. prices.
So Obama is well known to be on record for this.
And there was uh another thing.
Should Americans be allowed to purchase their prescription drugs from other companies, uh, I'm sorry, countries.
Uh and uh they quote Obama here, June 4th, 2008.
A truly meaningful prescription drug program should provide a benefit that seniors can understand and count on, reduce the cost of these drugs to help lower the cost of these drugs.
Senator Obama has supported efforts to allow American seniors to purchase prescription drugs in Canada and bring them back to the U.S. So they are just they're just flipped out there over this as much as they are anything else.
From March 7th, I'm sorry, this is uh AARP also testified uh before Congress, endorsed the pharmaceutical market access act, citing high prices.
The AARP wanted the legalization of the reimportation of drugs from other companies in order to make drugs cheaper, and it's gone.
Obama just casually threw it out.
And what the left is learning is it doesn't matter in the slightest.
What's in the bill, as far as Obama's concerned, just getting one is paramount.
I warned them.
I warned them Monday, August 24th of this year.
The CIA stuff, this new interrogation, all it is, I'm telling you, trust me, don't doubt me.
All this is is an attempt to get these people back in gear because they hate the whole idea of an imperial U.S. military more than they want the public option.
They want Al Qaeda to be portrayed as the good guys.
They want the Taliban to be portrayed as the good guys, they want the U.S. to be portrayed as the bad guys.
They're changing the subject from the debacle that health care has become.
They're changing the subject from the fact that public option is in big trouble, and they're trying to rally the base now with a golden oldie, something from the grooveyard of forgotten favorites.
This is an act of desperation.
It is an attempt to change the subject.
It's an attempt to get his base on uh back on his side again because they know, and I think this is true.
It's frightening, but it is true.
The Democrat base, the far-left radical lunatic fringe base, cares more about this country being humiliated militarily foreign policy-wise than they care about the public option.
Well, that was my opinion back on August 24th, but if I was right, then I think I was right then.
Um the passage of time since then has reinvigorated the left's anger at Obama selling them out on the public option, cheaper drugs, and the Medicare expansion.
Be right back, my friends.
Sit tight.
Ha, welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, serving humanity.
How?
Simply by showing up, simply by being here.
You remember uh, ladies and gentlemen, when Clinton won the presidency in uh in 1992 in that election, he said something like the era of greed and selfishness is over.
He was talking about the eight years of prosperity.
Actually, 12 years, well, second term Reagan and uh and first term Bush, only term Bush.
Eight years of prosperity, the era of greed and selfishness is over.
Now, after eight years of prosperity under Bush 43, we are again seeing the seething hate for profits.
And this is the left never changes.
It's who they are.
You're never ever gonna totally beat them back.
That's why you can't give up any day.
Yes, power ebbs and flows, but there are things to learn about the left.
I keep preaching the fact that if you really want to get informed, if you really want to understand where all this is headed and what it means, you have to get ideological.
You cannot be frightened about becoming a partisan.
You cannot become frightened about being ideological.
If you're conservative, you're conservative.
If you want to say, well, I'm conservative on some things and I'm liberal on other things, I guess I'm moderate independent won't work.
Because as far as I'm concerned, ladies and gentlemen, there's not one item on the leftist agenda worth joining or compromising over.
Not one.
To understand them, you have to know who they are.
They despise capitalism, they despise profit.
It is evil.
They are now just flit fit to be tied over the fact that they were sure that they were going to get lower drug prices in a health care bill.
Now they're not.
And now they're starting to associate Obama and Lieberman and any other senator that voted to kill a Dorgan Amendment as being in bed with Big Pharma, meaning profits.
Yes.
And it it's it's uh it's it's an ebb and flow.
It it it but they never change who they are, and to understand them.
Uh you you must clearly understand what liberalism is.
You need not be afraid of it.
It is not simple-minded.
It is not simplistic to say I oppose that, it's liberal.
I oppose that candidate, or I oppose that president because it's liberal.
It's in fact, it is highly wise.
It's very smart to cite liberalism as the primary reason you oppose any liberal or any Democrat.
It's the smartest thing you can do is to stop liberalism at every chance you've got, not work with it, not compromise with them, uh, not try to prove to them that you're a nice guy.
Just beat them.
Just stop them, especially now.
They have we have never faced a more radically left leadership in this country than now.
And there's no compromise with them.
There's there's no there's no the days of the usual day at the office where, okay, the Republicans lost the election, so the Democrats are in power, and we're gonna work with them and we'll get the power back someday, and so on.
No, that's not the way to look at it.
There's there's nothing about this agenda, nothing that's been advanced that's worth compromising with or helping them get past.
There's nothing worth trying to reshape so it's not as bad.
It just needs to be stopped.
It's the wise choice.
Now, here's a story from the Washington Post.
Everybody knows, everybody knows that Harry Reed is nowhere near his 60 votes.
If he had his 60 votes, they would have done this in September.
If he had his 60 votes, they would have voted on this in August.
If they had his 60 votes, they'd do it now.
They'd start the process now.
He doesn't have 60 votes.
And here's the Washington Post take on the uh the Democrats and their problem.
Polling shows Democrats losing health care PR fight.
Democrats are losing the public relations fight over the health care overhaul currently being debated in Congress, according to data in the new Washington Post ABC News poll, majorities believe the costs of their own health care as well as the nation's overall health care will rise if the bill becomes law.
Now the Washington Post is saying that people think this not because it's true.
They think this because the Democrats are losing the PR battle.
Just 37% believe the quality of care they receive will be better under Obama's plan, as compared to 53% who said their care would be superior if the status quo was maintained.
One bright spot in the numbers for Obama.
A slim majority, 51%, said the government intervention is necessary to control costs and expand coverage.
So that's 51% of the people in this poll who are absolutely mentally disturbed.
It is plain common sense to understand that government does not control costs.
Government will not expand coverage.
People are going to die prematurely with the government in charge of all this.
And now back to the post's PR analysis.
The problem in trying to sell the American public on the overall overhaul of a major social program is that raising doubts is far easier than calming nerves.
The bill is by nature sweeping in scope and confusing to the average American.
In the face of complexity, the easier answer, no, almost always wins out.
The simple fact is, why passing some sort of health care bill is only half the battle.
The other half will be going out across the country in 2010 and selling it.
And that work will fall primarily to um members of Congress.
So what we have here is the Washington Post telling politicians they have to sell this harder.
Just like after Obama's Afghanistan speech, people fanned out from the administration all across the country to sell that.
Meaning he can't sell anything on his own.
This can't be sold because it's rotten goods.
Nobody wants it, but the Washington Post, you notice how whenever things go against the media's agenda, when things go against a Democrat Party agenda, we hear about the tactics.
We hear about the public relations battle.
It can't just be that people are turning against it because they're becoming more informed and don't want this dog.
Oh no, it has to be that the PR battle is being lost.
Call George Lackoff rhymes with.
Do something to win the PR battle.
I mean if I gotta tell you something, Washington Post, you need to think about something very seriously.
If you really believe this, you really believe that they're losing the health care battle, you are one of the PR agencies.
You in the New York Times, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Los Angeles Times, Miami Herald, you name it, USA Today, you guys are the PR firm.
You guys are the PR firm.
And that I made this point yesterday in showing you just how rotten this bill is.
If all this walking around money from the slush funds, $800 billion for payoffs, unlimited positive propaganda-like coverage from all these networks and newspapers.
If that can't get you to 60 votes, then you are in deep trouble because you are dealing with a piece of excrement bill.
So if the Democrats are losing the PR battle, the PR agencies, the media, are uh are right in line for some of the blame.
And here's the um latest from Rasmussen on health care reform.
Forty percent support it.
The big news in this poll is that 63% of the seasoned citizens oppose the Democrats on health care.
And this was before, ladies and gentlemen, the cheaper drug bill or amendment was defeated.
And this was before the public option came out, before Lieberman was satisfied on the Medicare expansion.
Forty-six percent now strongly oppose the plan.
There are only 19% in Rasmussen survey who strongly favor it.
This thing is Turkey.
Nobody wants it.
The PR firms for the Obama administration, New York Times, Washington Post et al, cannot sell it.
And they can't sell it because it's a rotten product.
People are being informed.
If I were the Washington Post, New York Times, I'd be really worried.
They used to have a monopoly on this stuff.
They used to control all this.
If they wanted something to happen, it happened.
If they wanted a person elected, it got elected.
If they want an issue ignored, it got ignored.
If they wanted an issue buried, a story, whatever, it got buried.
Now, how is it?
And I asked this yesterday, how is it, ladies and gentlemen, that with all of that media support and all of that money, how is it that the American people in virtually every poll you look at know enough about this bill to oppose it?
Well, the Washington Post knows, the New York Times knows, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but they know.
And at the top of the list of reasons why is a guy named Rush Limbaugh.
And then the alternative media, which this program has spawned.
I say this with no ego, it's fact.
You can look it up.
Fact of the matter is, they have tried for 21 years to wipe us out, to destroy us, attack our credibility, reputations, and so forth, and yet here we are.
Larger, more powerful than ever.
And we have, in in terms of the American people being informed on a subject, us in the little old new media have overcome the efforts of the Obama PR machine, the state-controlled media, to position this bill as something that it isn't.
And that's why they're scared.
That's why they're worried, and that's why they're mad, and they have every reason to be mad.
It's like this health care business.
There's a way to look at the global warming is a way to look at this too.
And I would say the same thing about health care here.
If you realize that at the end of all this, be it health care or be it climate change, cap and trade, at the end of all this is large amounts of money for lots of people.
So if you are over in Copenhagen and you're attending this farce of a convention, and you realize that your whole scheme is blown up as a hoax, and you realize that people in ever larger numbers are finding out what a hoax it is, that there is no man-made global warming.
You then realize you're going to get shut out of the dollar gravy train.
And you know who you who you are going to be so mad at whoever it was that got in your way of all of those dollars.
And uh Mr. Snerdley told me the other day, he says, you know, Rush, you better be thinking about something here.
You're not you're not just in danger because of what you think and what you're saying about this.
If you beat them on this, if we all beat them on this, you are costing them gazillions of dollars that they're probably already figuratively spending.
And that is not going to make them happy.
It's one thing to lose something ideologically, but it's another thing to lose gazillions of dollars that you thought you had in the bank already.
Whole industries are set up around this.
Whole industries exist to do nothing but get money in form of grants from governments and agencies.
Whole industries have been created, the whole nonprofit industry, in well, not the entire nonprofit, but many nonprofits exist precisely so the people that work there will never have to go to work.
They just siphon off some of the donations they get from the suckers that send them money and then and the government grants they get.
Well, you upset Don that I am uh tarring and feathering a lot of nonprofits, are you involved in a nonprofit?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I did I did correct myself.
I was I was painting too generally with too too too broad a brush out there.
Uh the the Heritage Foundation is a nonprofit, for example.
There are there are good ones, but you know what I'm talking about.
A scientific nonprofit.
Look at it.
The whole the the whole hoax that is green energy.
The green energy sector, the green technology, if you all Jeffrey Immelt, NBC GE, has gone green totally.
You know why?
Because they've decided the best way to get a lot of research money to uh supposedly research and develop this new technology is going to come from the Obama administration.
It's all about money.
It you can't take the ideology out of it either.
I mean, the idiot ideology is is is uh is extremely relevant.
But in terms of beating these people, when you stand in the way of them scoring big, the biggest financial score of their lives, then you really, really have ticked them off.
And that's where we are in um in uh in all these things.
So health care reform, I mean, look at this.
Forty-six percent now strongly oppose it, 19% strongly favor it.
It's in free fall.
Howard Dean coming up to illustrate this.
Global warming, the whole concept is been exposed as a hoax, and that thing is falling apart over there.
Protesters are being arrested, they're upset because not enough.
I mean, it's just like the the kook left fringe here is upset with Obama, the Kook left fringe around the world, the anti-uh capitalist crowd and so forth.
They're upset with everybody inside the Copenhagen room where this is happening because they're mumbling it.
And lots of money's on the table, and it looks like it might be in jeopardy, and that's really got them ticked off.
Howard Dean and his rant making our case against health care coming up.
All right, the Washington Post says that the Democrats and Obama are losing the PR battle in the fight over health care, which means that the Washington Post should take its share of the blame because it's the PR agency.
Here's another Washington Post story and the headlines about another poll.
Public cool to health reforms while Obama gains support on Afghanistan war.
Cool.
His numbers have tanked across the board, and we are cool to it.
We steadfastly and energetically oppose it.
And they've they have been working the Republicans have been doing no PR on this.
We have.
The conservative movement in ascendancy is what's stopping all this.
And here's Howard Dean on public radio in Vermont is on fire yesterday afternoon with these comments.
This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate.
And honestly, the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill and go back to the House and start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes, and it'd be a much simpler bill.
Now, he went further.
After that appearance on Vermont Public Radio, he was on MSNBC last night with probably a smaller audience than Vermont Public Radio.
What would uh be your advice to a Senator Democrat senator on the floor of the Senate on passage of this bill?
The choice is to vote yes or no.
No, absolutely not.
You can't vote for a bill like this in good conscience.
It isn't health care reform.
It's not even insurance reform.
And if it were me, I'd kill the bill all entirely and and have the House starting reconciliation, which is what they should have done in the first place.
To be held up by four senators, a minority of 40 who are totally uncooperative, which is the Republicans, and then four senators are beholding the insurance industry, I think is wrong.
But that's what's happened.
This is the former chairman of the Democrat National Committee.
He continued with this.
Don't run our children into debt and come back and do this two years later.
I disagree with the administration when they say a president won't take this on for another twenty years.
We're in crisis here.
This bill, I think, is more likely to make the crisis worse than it is better because it's so expensive.
So we could come back with the new Congress, which unfortunately is a result of all this, we'll have fewer Democrats, but it'll still have a Democratic majorities.
We could come back with a new Congress, and we could pass a bill, which we had on the Senate floor last week that would ensure people faster, even though it's delayed by a year and a half than the bill that's gonna be passed in the Senate.
Howard Dean making the case for opposing this health care bill.
It doesn't accomplish anything, it's way too expensive.
It piles debt on kids.
Uh that's as far as making our case goes.
We don't want the public option back in, which he does.
We don't want the Medicare expansion back in, uh, which he does.
So uh and this is a direct hit at the Obama administration and and uh calling them out.
You guys say we can't do this for another twenty years, you're wrong.
Do it right in the first place.
Scrap this.
That's a Democrat talking.
Now we have another Dean soundbite coming up in the uh in the next segment, but in that soundbite, Howard Dean says that the uh the failure to pass the reimportation of drugs amendment, the Dorgan Amendment, amounts to a bigger bailout for the insurance companies than AIG.
Now that that's that's code words for the leftist base to stand up and stop this and hate it.
They hate AIG.
We'll be back.
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