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November 5, 2009, Thursday, Hour #2
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It's hour number two of the Thursday, November 5th Rush Limbaugh Show.
Tomorrow's Rush program will be guest hosted by Mark Stein.
That's always a good thing.
But the best thing of all is the return of Rush, and that will be on Monday.
So looking forward to that.
And looking forward to this hour and the next spent with you.
We're going to head back to your calls here in just a moment at 1-800-282-2882 as we work our way through today's journey, just sprinkling a few more topical layers on here, some things we can talk about.
You always feel free to bring us things are going on in your town and your life.
There's a lot going on in the lives of people there at the Capitol right now.
Thousands upon thousands gathered at the Capitol Dome at the behest of some courageous members of Congress who are stepping forward to say no to Obamacare in its entirety.
There is a it's kind of funny.
Hey, it's Republicans.
There's going to be interness and squabbles.
It's just the way it's going to be.
I've often envied the Democrats their lockstep unity, but you know what?
They don't have it right now.
Do you think there's lockstep unity for the Democrats on health care right now?
You know, the blue dogs and the people who fiscally can't buy it and who can't buy the facility of abortion in the health care bill, there are Democrats who don't like this thing at all.
So even they're having their squabbles.
But in the Republican Party, we're always going to have certain things that we are going to disagree about in the Republican public and in the Republican House of Representatives.
Here's where I'm going.
There are some Republican members of the House, these are the ones you're seeing at the Capitol Dome today, who want to slay this dragon.
Hit the reset button.
Kill the bill.
Kill the bill is the chant of the moment, which will, I'm sure, be spun as some type of a bloodthirsty mantra by Keith Olberman or anyone willing to look askance at it.
What it is, is the noblest of pursuits, stopping a bad idea.
The idea is all bad.
It must be all stopped.
And then we start and go at health care reform on an issue-by-issue basis.
How should we deal with portability?
How should we deal with the uninsured?
How should we deal with previously existing conditions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I'm all about that.
As is every Republican opponent of Obamacare.
And yet they continue to say, well, these are people who want to do nothing.
This sounds like a double negative, but it's not.
No one wants to do nothing.
Everybody wants to do something.
It's just a matter of what.
Here's what I mean by the within Republican circles differences.
I think that up toward the leadership.
I want to give a lot of props to John Boehner, who's been saying a lot of good things and doing a lot of good things.
But I wonder if when they have the upper muckety-muck chat sessions, I think that the C-word gets dropped, and that word is compromise.
Compromise is sometimes laudable, sometimes appropriate.
This is not one of those times.
And so I think that even in Republican circles, there are those who really want to put the pedal of the metal and put every effort toward killing Obamacare as it exists and then starting over with something genuinely bipartisan.
And there are those who are ready to reach across the aisle right now.
It's not time to do that yet.
This plan, the Pelosi bill, the thing they trundled out last week, needs to go onto the ash heap of history.
Reset button.
Start from scratch with ideas from Republicans and Democrats that will reach some conclusion that probably doesn't please either side all the way, because that's the way most big things like this are going to go.
And I understand that.
But right now, we've got something that Republicans don't like.
We've got something a bunch of Democrats don't like.
We've got something that a bunch of people who voted for President Obama don't like.
This thing must die.
Then, with a clear playing field, we build from there.
This is interesting.
I'm going to share a story and then tell you where it comes from.
Usually I tell you where it comes from and then share the story.
But there's something interesting about that.
So let's do it.
And then to your calls.
Story written by writers Michael Cooper and Ron Nixon.
In June, the federal government spent $1,047 in stimulus money to buy a riding mower from the Toro Company to cut the grass at the Fayetteville National Cemetery in Arkansas.
Follow me?
About $1,000 for what I'm sure is a wonderful Toro riding mower to cut the grass at Fayetteville's National Cemetery in Arkansas.
Now, a report on the government's stimulus website improbably claims that that single lawnmower helped save or create 50 jobs.
Earlier that same month, when Chrysler got a $52.9 million stimulus order for new cars for the government, the struggling automaker claimed that the money did not save a single job.
Those two extremes illustrate the difficulties in trying to figure out just how many jobs can be attributed to the $787 billion stimulus program.
Last week, the Obama administration released reports from more than 130,000 recipients of stimulus money in which they claimed to have saved or created more than 640,000 jobs.
But a review of those reports shows that some are simply wrong, while others contain apparently subjective estimates.
So there you are.
Very nice story.
Writers, and why am I burying the lead here a little bit?
Not burying the lead, but waiting to reveal the publication in which this appeared.
Because listen, if you kick somebody in the crotch long enough, when they do something right, you want to reach out and say thank you.
Good for you.
Writers Michael Cooper and Ron Nixon, who authored this story, they work for the New York Times.
There you go.
Thanks, guys.
Appreciate it.
And of course, the whole game of jobs saved or created.
Number one, it's not government's job to create jobs.
And what in the world is a saved job anyway?
But to Mr. Cooper and Mr. Nixon at the New York Times, nice story.
And update those resumes.
1-800-282-2882.
Kidding, half kidding.
Oh, oh, okay.
I can confirm that moments ago, this woman was understandable at the screening process.
Let's see if that has remained the same.
Gina is at the Capitol with the rally.
Fingers crossed, Gina, Mark Davison for Rush.
How are you?
Hello?
Hi, Gina.
How are you?
It's Mark.
I'm fine.
Thank you.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
What you got going on?
Where are you and what's happened?
Well, I just have been here for about 30 minutes assessing this.
I know because I have to talk to you from a distance.
It is end-to-end people, wall-to-wall skin.
And the people are trickling in.
And I'm realizing now that that healthcare plan is up to 2,000 pages now.
And it's energizing.
Really energizing.
Well, this is great.
Have you been able to absorb some of the actual program?
What have people been saying?
What's been going on there from the podium?
There are several congressmen lined up to speak now, but Mark Levin has not.
Come on yet.
I'm standing next to a group of libertarians that are selling flags and stuff, and they've been here all day, and they are waiting on Mark Levin as well.
As well, they should, because that's a headliner that's worth sticking around for.
They have more to say than I do if you're interested in talking to them.
Oh, trust me, I'm good at the moment.
From where have you traveled to get there today?
I actually live in Virginia.
No problem.
I'm a hopskipper jump, and I actually drove the car in, which they so not recommend, but I found a parking spot, and I got about two hours limit here.
And I'm going to talk about it.
Listen, I don't care.
I don't care if you came over the 14th Street Bridge or from 1,400 miles away.
It's good that you are there.
And thanks for the report.
I appreciate it so much.
I wanted to talk to you before I moved in.
Exactly right.
Go forward, ma'am.
Go forward.
Thank you.
All right.
Good, good, good.
Yeah, that's a talk show dream come true.
Yeah, I got a bunch of other people here with me.
They got more to say than I do.
And it's a bunch of libertarians, meaning that if I'd had her hand the phone to them, a couple of things were going to happen.
Inspiring, wonderful words about really getting courageous, about cutting the size of government, or legalizing weed.
And not knowing which way that was going to go.
I figured Gina was good for right now.
Someday we'll all have to figure out what to do with our libertarian brothers and sisters.
What magnificent courage they show.
And getting the parties act together so that it can get maybe more than 0.02% of anything.
I don't know.
If you want to go there a little bit today, you can, or maybe that just beats everybody's brain to jelly.
It's, I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I am one.
I am a libertarian conservative.
Or a conservative libertarian.
I mean, this is it.
The one thing that I've always loved about libertarianism is that there are a lot of people who call themselves conservative, call themselves Republican.
They look like Ted Kennedy compared to libertarians.
I mean, you ever hung out with Ron Paul?
God bless Ron Paul, who's a congressman down here in Texas where I am.
And this is a guy who knows what the Constitution says, knows what it means, knows how big, meaning how small, government should be.
But, and I don't know how widespread this is in libertarian circles, but our libertarian brothers and sisters, and I'm not going to harp on legalizing weed or whatever else, but they also bristle at the role of America as a force for good around the world.
And that means, you know, that just about every libertarian I've met, I mean, you know, hardcore, did not believe, does not believe in American intervention really for much of anything.
So, you know, good luck with all that.
All right.
Tell you what.
Let us take our pause and come back or grab some more calls and examine a few more stories, some things going on.
In fact, one of the places that I wanted to go with you is examining where to take this Tea Party Town Hall passion.
It has been stoked.
It has been rewarded.
Now, there's a way to play this smart and a way to play this that's not so smart.
I'll tell you what my thoughts are about that, and you can share yours with me.
Mark Davis in for Rush at 1-800-282-2882.
We'll continue in a moment on the EIB Network.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in on this Thursday, the 5th of November.
A great day during a great week.
It's been a week of great days.
Monday was great, anticipation about what lay ahead.
Tuesday was really great.
Wednesday was great, washing in the magnificence of what the election yielded.
Today is great as we continue to tingle our spines with the promise of what lies ahead with all of these energies that we have seen awakened.
And today is great because of what's going on down at the Capitol.
I cannot.
Oh, hello.
I've burdened you with something that I am famous, infamous for on the local show, and that's saying I'm going to do something and then really taking forever to get to it.
So sorry.
Here we go.
I mentioned that I would tell you what the dominant media culture would say about today.
There will be video that cannot lie.
You will see thousands and thousands and thousands of people who are there to say no to Obamacare.
But many, not all, many of the accompanying stories will be piggybacked with instant opposing views from people and polls and stories showing the high likability that President Obama still mysteriously has, the high percentage.
And I love these poll questions.
Do you think we need health care reform?
Well, duh, sure.
And people will then co-opt that and say, well, that must mean they like Obama-style health care reform.
You will also hear derision of today's attendees as a bunch of people hopped up on the Red Bull of election night just wanting to get out and have a little after party.
That this will be folks who are just so jazzed about the Virginia and New Jersey results that they just wanted to get out and make a showing, and that it doesn't really reflect so much an accurate image of thoughtful opposition to Obamacare.
This is what they will say.
Now, truth be told, there's partial truth in that.
I've talked to a bunch of people.
I talked to a guy named Doug in Temple, Texas.
He called me day before yesterday, driving up to D.C. He'd gotten as far as like Texarkana.
I had him on my local show this morning.
Trip was good.
He's safe.
All's well.
It was already starting to get loud at like T minus an hour to this event.
And when he talked to me, he said, I'm just so thrilled to be during this week and with the winds in Virginia and New Jersey and the thought that maybe the Republican Party is not exactly flatlining anymore.
I just want to go somewhere and do something and be part of something.
That's what grassroots activism is.
And just to take a little step back through time, April 15th, I was honored to be the master of ceremonies at the tea party at Dallas City Hall.
And we asked ourselves, are we going to be able to keep this energy alive?
July 4th, there was another big collection of tea parties.
So the answer was yes.
The town halls happen over the summer recess, and everybody's asking, are we going to be able to keep this energy alive?
Are we going to be able to translate this energy to the ballot box?
That answer is now in.
That answer is yes.
So to the chagrin of those seeking to perpetuate the Obama agenda and the Obama presidency beyond one term, the Tea Party town hall passions are firing on all cylinders.
They involve a lot of people of very different stripes, but unified by one thing, revulsion at the status quo of the last 10 months.
Or sufficient revulsion at a sufficient portion of it to want to bring about, dare I invoke this word, change.
All right, let's return to your calls on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in today.
Mark Stein tomorrow.
Let's go to Union City, Tennessee.
Hey, Jennifer, Mark Davis in Farush.
How are you?
What's up?
Oh, not a whole lot.
We're hanging out in front of Mr. Tanner's office in Union City, Tennessee on West Church Street, and we are asking him today to keep his promise to vote no on the health care reform.
I just wanted to remind everybody in our area that we are here and hopefully encourage all others across the nation to seek out their representatives' offices.
Many of us can't make it to D.C., but we can show our support.
Well, good for you.
And this would be a reference to 8th District Congressman John Tanner of Tennessee, who's been there for a good 20 years.
I worked in Memphis from 85 to 89 and was sort of there for his ascendancy.
And as a Democrat in a state that's not too Pelosi-friendly, it'll be interesting to see how he positions himself.
And how do you, he was sort of a founder of the Blue Dogs, so maybe there's some hope there.
I'm not really sure.
I'm hoping so.
We had a recess rally on the 22nd of August at Kiwanis Park, and Mr. Tanner was not very cooperative in a lot of town hall meetings for August, but he did accept my invitation.
For that, I'm very grateful.
While there, he spoke to us at great length about the different things going on.
There was some debate as to, you know, the offshore drilling.
He had said that he was going to vote for it, and as it turned out, he voted against it.
So we're just standing out here to remind him that on that day, he promised us a vote of no.
Well, good for you.
It's about holding people's feet to the fire.
They may vote however they wish, but there will be consequences no matter what.
That's what a representative system is all about.
All right, Jennifer, thanks.
Appreciate that very much.
More of you are next at 1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in Farush.
Don't move.
That is today's plan.
Tomorrow's involves Mark Stein filling in for Rush, and the Monday plan is for Rush's return.
That's always a good thing.
All right, let's get back to some of your calls here in a moment.
But as we come out of this break and look for new plow, new ground to plow, join me in a moment of reflection on what are we going to do about the AARP, the American Association of Retired Persons.
This is always tricky, you know, being advocates for senior citizens, advocates for retired persons or whatever, because senior opinion is not monolithic.
Not all retirees agree with everything.
So a group like the AARP has to figure out what it's going to do when it takes a stand on controversial issues.
And no matter what they do, somebody's going to be upset.
And to that extent, I empathize with them.
That said, they thought about what they were going to do and let the marketplace do what it will.
Even as this wave of conservative protesters has taken over Capitol Hill, AARP is endorsing Obamacare.
Now, there was a smattering of this before, and you heard the story how 60,000 people canceled their memberships between July 1 and August 18th in the controversy that arose as AARP made some noises about endorsing Obamacare.
Well, now they're all in.
They are all in.
The AARP, which boasts some 40 million members, at least today they do, officially endorsed the House Democratic Health Care Bill, saying it would close the coverage gap in Medicare prescription benefits, put strict limits on what health insurers can charge older workers too young for Medicare, and create a voluntary long-term care insurance program.
The chief executive of the AARP is a man named Barry Rand.
In his statement, quote, we cannot continue to let insurers price older Americans out of the market, just as we cannot stand idle while millions of seniors are forced to choose between their groceries and their prescriptions.
AARP is proud to endorse the Affordable Health Care for America Act, namely Obamacare, the Pelosi-Hoyer-Reed plan.
The AARP has hopped into bed with these people.
So while they cannot continue to let certain things happen, insurers pricing older Americans out of the market, as they say, we can't stand idle while things happen that they don't like.
I'm thinking just maybe, just speculating here, that there may be a lot of AARP members who cannot stand idle and watch people who have taken their money endorse Obamacare.
Now, as a guest host, I will just tell you, I feel very much, I am a guest in someone's house.
This is not my show.
It is Russia's show.
I'm not going to bring into this realm a whole lot of, you know, my shtick, my activism, my bits, my drops.
That's what I tantalize people with on WBAP and Dallas-Fort Worth.
This is the honor of a guest hosting gig.
So I'm not going to do a big long call to activism or something like that.
I'm just not.
However, I will take about 60 seconds, just informationally, to tell you that if you were in the mood to get out your AARP card, if you are, if you love Obamacare, write them a thank you note, because here comes their address.
Write them a thank you note.
If you're kind of undecided, sit back, watch the news, study things, see what you think.
And once you figure out what you think about Obamacare, you'll know what you think about AARP's endorsement of it.
It's only fair.
But on the off chance that you are repelled by this, if you were to get out your AARP card and a pair of scissors and an envelope and a stamp just to suggest four things you might have in a drawer nearby.
And if you were compelled to send that cut-up card to these people, either with or without a little note telling them what you thought of their decision, that would be properly mailed to the AARP at 601E Street Northwest.
Washington, D.C., 20049.
AARP, 601E Street, Northwest, Washington, D.C., 20049.
And please, I'll say this twice.
If you love the decision they've made, send them a fruit basket.
Send them a nice letter.
But if another type of gesture seems appropriate, I simply informationally provide you with the address of these folks.
All right.
Phone number here is 1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
Mark Davis in for rush.
Let's go to Miami.
Always a nice idea.
Barry, Mark Davis, in for rush.
How are you?
Hi, Mark.
How are you doing?
Real good.
Thanks.
You know, based on the wins yesterday, or the other day of Virginia, New Jersey, I just wanted to discuss some of the core issues that are being a Republican today, and I just want to make sure that I'm kind of clear on all that.
Okay.
I think, you know, first of all and foremost, it would be tax cuts for the permanent tax cuts for the wealthy and for the corporations.
That would be part of it, right?
Well, the short answer is yes.
You're buying into a little bit of Democrat phraseology there because any politician stepping out and advocating tax cuts for the wealthy is not going to win over a bunch of converts.
Even though the horribly overburdened job-creating class does need a break from confiscatory taxation, so all I would give is a little phraseology, let's get Frank Luntz in for a little message work on that.
But yes, we need to unburden the job-creating class because what will that job-creating class do if unburdened?
Create more jobs, buy more stuff, open more factories.
Yes, I would love to hop back to that very issue in just a second because I just want to try to get clear on this.
And then I think also a firm belief is a massive building and strengthening of the military.
That would be part of it, right?
Well, sure.
I mean, these are things that, I mean, so far, absolutely.
These are things that will resonate with people who believe in a strong America and who believe in America as a role, as a force for good around the world, and who believe in fighting terror militarily, not having mint tea with these people, not hoping to God they succumb to our charm, but militarily obliterating those who seek to kill us.
You bet.
On board for me and our job, make that attractive to others.
I do want to hop back there.
You're doing great.
I like it.
Okay, well, time permitting.
Go ahead.
What's up?
Minimalizing government to making government small at the federal level.
By all means.
Okay.
And then the other issues of anti-abortion, right, the anti-abortion issues, and then also.
Standing up for the unborn, absolutely.
And then also banning of gay marriage.
And standing up for the definition of the legal definition of marriage is one man, one woman.
You bet.
So I've kind of hit most of the core issues there, right?
Absolutely.
Now, you wanted to revisit the tax part?
Well, I would because Here's the things I just kind of want to throw at you to see what you're thinking here.
On the tax cut issue, when you do that and the corporations get their tax cuts and you build mega corporations, it's not really good for entrepreneurialship, which is what the country has been built on.
It wipes out the mom-and-pop state stores and the moments pop hard stores.
No, it does not.
I mean, sometimes it does.
If there's a Walmart that lands right next to Bill's feed store, maybe.
Then maybe Bill's feed store needs to get real creative and think outside the box and do things that Walmart cannot do.
Example after example after example exists of small entrepreneurs, medium-sized entrepreneurs, not just surviving, but thriving in neighborhoods where there's a Walmart, a target, a Kmart.
This notion that the arrival of these big box stores is instant death to entrepreneurship is a lie.
Shoe, okay, I don't quite agree with that, but I will tell you.
I will say also that in addition to that, the theory you said of cutting taxes and jobs getting created, it's really pretty much firmly established at this point in time after 30 years that the trickle-down economic theory does not work.
That's another lie.
It worked during Reagan.
It worked during Bush.
You cut taxes on the highest earners, freeing up more of what is truly their money.
And what did they use that money for?
They use it for the things that made them the money in the first place.
Well, if I'm not sure.
The creation of businesses, the creation of jobs.
That's the free market.
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
During Bush one?
Oh, we had a recession as Reagan began.
You're going to have recessions.
They are going to happen.
But if you're sitting here trying to tell me somehow that we need to maintain punitive taxation on the people who actually create jobs, I'm going to say no.
I do have to congratulate you.
And we've got another minute or so because you're a good guy.
And I presumed falsely.
I just want to see what the Republican agenda is.
And you laid it out fairly accurately in order to now shoot holes in it.
That's not working out so well.
But if you want to keep at it, go right ahead because I'm entertained.
Well, I do want to go.
I just want to go to the other point.
Now, I also brought up the military.
Sure.
And what I've been hearing is that we cannot do a nationalized health program because the fact that we simply cannot afford it, especially through taxation, especially in our economic times.
And you'd agree with that, right?
Correct.
Okay.
Right now, we're hearing the drumbeats from the Republican side that we need to immediately, without hesitation, send 40,000 troops over into Afghanistan.
I'm just curious, how are we going to afford that?
Well, if you're suggesting if we could fund 50 Afghan wars on what this health care bill involves, if you think that's apples and apples, that's just crazy.
And the good news is that if we get government cut down to the size that I want it to be, we will have more than enough money to fund every just and proper war that may arise over the years.
And that's the notion of the notion of government not have, it is always false to cry that government doesn't have enough money.
And on the healthcare thing, government doesn't have our money yet, and we're trying to keep it from getting that money.
Go ahead, Mr. Ray.
You think government is inept across the board?
I beg pardon?
You think government?
No, no, no, not inept across the board.
Not at all, but sufficiently inept that I don't trust it with my health care.
Boy, you've achieved co-host status.
You've been really good.
I can't tell you how much I've destroyed the clock here to have you.
And I've really enjoyed it.
I really appreciate it.
More on the Rush Limbaugh show in just a moment.
Mark Davis filling in.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in.
Let's head to the capital city of the state that I join you from.
That's Austin, Texas.
Doc, Mark Davis in for Rush.
How are you?
I'm doing good.
What's up?
Hey, I heard your earlier caller talking about if Rush had backed up McCain, that maybe McCain would have won and all that stuff.
I contend that having Obama win was the best thing that could have happened, the Conservative Party.
I mean, if McCain had won, we would be going down the same slope at a much, much slower pace.
People would have taken it, compromised.
Not the same slope.
Not the same slope.
I know what you would have been steeped in ideological vagueness.
McCain's okay on the war.
He's okay on some other things.
He's soft on the borders.
I don't know what kind of a tax cutter he is.
And it would have been.
We would have slogged along and seen what was going on.
We wouldn't have this God-forsaken stimulus, and we certainly would have more troops in Afghanistan, so that would be better.
But there is something cleansing about the incredible, shocking clarity of the radical socialist agenda of these people.
A McCain, the 50 to 60% of, I'll give them credit, the 70% of McCain that's pretty conservative, would not have empowered conservatism, would not have galvanized Republicans like the 100% of Barack Obama that is radically liberal.
And this is a narrative that'll play out.
It's easy for us to sit right here and say, best thing that ever happened, and it may well be, and it's short-term pain for long-term gain.
But I hope I join the community of those who hope that we look back at 2008 as an aberration and that wasn't a reset or a realignment.
It was a momentary flirtation with the hopelessly vague and ultimately damaging that we dug ourselves out of in 2010 and 2012 with a renewed appreciation for the Constitution, a renewed appreciation for strong and limited government, a renewed appreciation for liberty.
I hope I'm not just dreaming about that.
Thank you, sir.
Mark Davis in for Rush.
Back in a moment.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis, filling in from WBAP Dallas, Fort Worth.
Hope everybody's good today.
Mark Stein with you tomorrow.
Rush back on Monday.
Coming up at the beginning of the next hour, there's a sort of an evolving theme on some of the articles I'm finding.
Just imagining the angst and agony and chagrin of the reporters who have had to write them.
And I don't presume, I don't know.
One was the New York Times, which actually had a very nice article that I shared about the ridiculousness of the Obama White House claims of saved or created jobs.
Coming up, three reporters of the LA Times talked to some Democrats about the wake-up call of Election 09.
And again, it's the L.A. Times, and it's a good story.
So I give credit where credit is due there.
All righty, to take us out this hour, we head to, oh, what a pretty place, man.
Cavalier country, Jefferson country, Charlottesville, Virginia, Harry.
Hello, Mark Davis in for Rush.
How are you?
Hello.
Hey, Harry, how are you?
Oh, very good yourself, sir.
Thank you.
What do you want to call?
Sure.
I'll just have a couple quick comments, and then I'll let you just go with it.
One is Pelosi and Crew are probably going to pass it.
I hate to say it.
But my question there is: once it passes, it's going to go to Reid, obviously, and he's going to endorse it.
It'll go on.
And it's going to happen.
What would it take to reverse it?
Just like up in Maine, they reversed the gay marriage thing.
For every action, there's option equal reaction.
So that's my main questionnaire.
And I'm out of breath, excuse me.
And then where are the people, like all the mark levins of the world?
Because it's against the law for the government to say you will do something.
You will buy this, you will do that.
Why isn't that being stopped?
Here's the answer to all of the above.
And it's kind of funny because something that complex requires a quick and vague answer right now.
The answer is the election of people who disagree with it.
What is the solution?
What is the antidote to this poisonous elixir?
People who want to return to liberty, return to consumer choice.
People who will undo the portions of Obamacare that they can as quickly as they can.
The good news is the chance to do that arises in 2010 and 2012.
Where's Levin?
Do you listen to Levin?
Do you listen to Rush?
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