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Oct. 21, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 21, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Spent a lot of time in the last hour of the political story talking about how Obama has succeeded in marginalizing me in Fox News, the Chamber of Commerce, uh, the insurance industry, we're marginalized.
Obama's just roaring through the he is in trouble.
His party is in trouble.
His agenda is in trouble.
Half the American people don't like his policies.
Half the country disagree with his policies.
He's floundering in Afghanistan.
He refuses to act like commander-in-chief.
More and more people are starting to see that he's not at all what they thought they elected.
And there is a general disquiet that is settling across the country.
There is a general despondency that's setting out and spreading across the country, as people begin to realize that they're not going to get a roaring economy anytime soon.
The Obama administration itself is out there saying so.
That 10% unemployment is the new norm.
The American people are being told you're gonna do with less, and you're gonna like it because we have been stealing from the rest of the world, and it's about time we pay our dues.
That's what the American people are starting to figure out.
In the midst of all this, the Brainiacs at the Republican Party selected a candidate in a special election in uh the 23rd district in New York State, and they picked a woman whose name is uh Didi Skazafava, who essentially should be a Democrat.
Even the Wall Street Journal weighs in.
Democrats want to portray this uh race as a familiar moderate conservative Republican split, but the real issue is why Didi Skazafava is a Republican at all.
She has voted for so many tax increases that her Democrat opponent is attacking her as a tax raiser.
She supported the Obama stimulus.
She favors card check to make union organizing easier, or at least she did until a recent flip-flop.
She has run more than once on the line of the working families party, which is aligned with Acorn.
Her voting record in Albany puts her to the left of nearly half the Democrats in the assembly.
She also favors gay marriage, which is to the left of Mr. Obama, and she's a Republican, and this is who the Republican Party is is asking people to donate to, and who they are supporting.
The GOP will continue to wander in the wilderness if it continues to put up candidates like this.
And I i it's mystifying.
Now the the guy that everybody's watching in this race is uh a guy by the name of Mike Hoffman.
And they're wondering, because he's on the conservative uh party ticket, and it's now being reported that Didi Skazafava is now polling in third place in this district race, which may explain this is Eric Erickson at redstate uh.com, may explain why Skazafava, though her husband, or through her husband, and also happens to be the head of the AFL CIO in the I mean.
It really is a legitimate question.
Why is this woman a Republican?
Skazafava called the cops to chase away reporters daring to ask uh inconvenient questions a couple of days ago.
But Krista Liza says, can Hoffman win?
Well, Skaza Fuzza's imploding.
Her voters uh uh obviously gonna look elsewhere.
Hoffman's in second place, and uh voters most likely backing Skazafava because of the R next to her name.
The voters will go to the real Republican of the race, Hoffman.
Uh Hoffman's the strongest challenger to the Democrat and gives the only real contrast to the Democrat.
Uh Hoffman can win this race.
Everybody's asking he can he win this.
Yes, of course he can.
That's just uh it's it's mystifying because the Republican Party has a chance here, not just with this race, but in Washington as well, to contrast itself, with the sheer radicalism of the Obama agenda.
And instead they're nominating candidates that are close to it.
A black woman who's racially charged by this is the Associated Press, by the way, a black woman whose racially charged allegations of horrific abuse helped put several people in prison now says she lied when she alleged she was kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and tortured in a ramshackle West Virginia trailer.
West Virginia authorities said in 2007 that Megan Williams, now of Columbus, Ohio, had been stabbed, beaten with sticks, sexually assaulted, doused with hot water, forced to eat animal feces, and taunted with racial slurs by seven white men and women.
She later said hot wax was poured on her and that two of her captors had forced uh her to drink their urine.
Now, uh an unsigned statement released Wednesday by the office of her Columbus lawyer said simply Megan Williams is now recanting her story.
Brian Abraham, the former Logan County prosecutor who pursued the cases, expressed skepticism that the story was a lie.
If she's gonna say she made it all up, that's absurd.
This looks like another attempt to generate more publicity.
Anyway, two conflicting stories here on the swine flu virus.
First from Fox News.
H1N1 flu virus is running rampant throughout the U.S., and the country will have received only 25% of the vaccine that was expected by the end of October, said Senator Joe Lieberman.
Thank you.
As of last week, there are more than uh 5,000 cases of flu reported compared to seven cases in October of last year.
More than 800 people have died from H1N1, including 86 children, according to the U.S. centers for disease control and prevention.
CDC officials said there should be widespread availability of the vaccine by mid-November.
But by that time it will have peaked.
According to the experts, Kathleen Sibelius blamed the vaccine shortage on lower than predicted yields from vaccine manufacturers, and on some manufacturing glitches that have occurred since May.
She said the yields are now more in line with original predictions that any glitches have been corrected.
We anticipate a robust production line moving forward.
All right, so it's the fault of the manufacturers, the fault of the private sector.
Didn't get enough yield, a high enough yield, and uh it's a manufacturing glitches.
But then from CBS News.
Story by Cheryl Atkison.
Swine flu cases overestimated, CBS News exclusive study of state results, finds H1N1 not as prevalent as feared.
If you've been diagnosed probable or presumed in recent months with the H1N1 virus, you may be surprised to know this.
Odds are you didn't have H1N1 flu.
In fact, you probably didn't have flu at all.
That's according to state-by-state test results obtained in a three-month-long CBS News investigation.
Now, the ramifications of this finding are important according to the Centers for Disease Control.
And Britain's National Health Service, once you have H1N1 flu, you are immune from future outbreaks of the same virus.
So those who think they've had it, but haven't, might mistakenly presume they're immune.
As a result, they might skip taking a vaccine that could help them and expose themselves to others with H1N1 flu under the mistaken belief that they won't catch it.
Parents might not keep sick children on from school.
Why the uncertainty about who has and who hasn't had the flu?
Because the government's in charge of tabulating all these kinds of statistics.
Swine flu cases overestimate.
Why?
Now why would that be?
Why would swine flu cases be overestimated?
There are no coincidences in politics.
But rush, but rush.
This is a disease.
What do you mean, politic?
It's political.
The whole thing is political.
It's being used as a uh As a tool to persuade people to support Obama's health care reform initiative.
It is a tool whereby government officials get to tell citizens what they must do.
And now we find out that they've uh overestimated uh the number of swine flu cases out there.
And that's on the heels of a story that's oh my god, the vaccine, we don't have enough vaccine, oh, we're all gonna die.
What are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do?
It's uh incredible to watch this.
By the way, uh what do you mean rush uh Obama tanking out there?
Well, I've got some Rasmussen numbers here.
Now, at the time I I got this uh, which was late last night, the article had not been written that Rasmussen always writes with his uh with his poll results.
But I mean, if you go to these numbers that uh from the Rasmussen reports graph, I mean uh uh uh Democrats are tanking.
In one month they've lost between two and eight points on the issues.
So here's the chart.
October 2009, September 2009.
Issue health care.
Uh the Democrats uh uh the overall shift is uh Democrats 40 percent versus 44 support it.
Uh that's a difference of six points.
Obama, the Democrats have lost six points on health care.
The Democrat Party has.
Education, they've lost five points.
Social Security, they've lost eight points.
This is a uh uh uh a poll uh that that asks people who's better at handling things.
Abortion, they've lost 12 points.
Economy, they've lost 14 points.
Uh I mean, it it's it's and the the shifts are even more incredible.
I mean, wherever you go, and CNN's got its own poll that says half the country is opposed to Obama's policies.
So while they think they're winning everything out there, they want everybody to think they're winning by marginalizing their uh their opponents and targeting them from the White House.
Remember Nixon did that?
Nixon had his enemies' list and how outraged the media was.
Remember how outraged that this could possibly be happening, and now Obama's doing it, and they're gleeful and they're happy and yeah, there are Obama enemies out here.
We're gonna help Obama spread the word on who they are.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back much more straight ahead in just a second here.
Speaking of uh polls.
There was an ABC Washington Post poll yesterday, the Washington Post published about uh health care and specifically the public option.
I had it.
I had it right here in the stack, and that it just made me so mad because I knew it was fraudulently reported and fraudulently uh uh probably compiled.
I didn't even bother messing with it.
It said that it said that the public overwhelmingly now massively supports a public option in healthcare, which is just not true.
I'll explain the fraudulent way in which they did the poll in just a second.
But imagine yourself in this position.
You're managing the Washington Post.
You run the shop, and you see Obama smash mouth Fox News.
You see Obama and his uh allies denouncing Fox News, all but boycotting Fox News.
And you're running the Washington Post, you say, hmm, what can I do here to kiss ass with the teacher?
What kind of brown nosing can I do?
How can I make sure I don't get the Obama treatment that he's giving Fox?
How can I show Obama that I love him?
How can I show Obama that I am a loyal apparatchic?
Well, very simple.
How do you earn the approval of Obama?
How do you uh please him enough to get access?
Well, you do a poll.
You do a poll on his favorite issue, health care, and you um you gimme up the results, and you make it appear that the American people love the public option of your health care plan.
And all it took to bring that off was a rebalanced sample.
More Democrats, less Republicans.
Maybe we ought to start putting stickers on journalists' foreheads.
Something like USDA approved or strictly kosher.
Or how about Obama approved journalists?
How about at the end of every story?
I'm Barack Obama and I dictated this story.
Because that's what's happening in American journalism today.
I mean, and the and the the uh the White House is pretty much admitting it.
They want media to not investigate them.
They want media to just accept what they say, and they're going after Fox and everybody else, which is that they've been doing it the whole time.
The sampling, the sampling of this poll comprises 33 percent Democrats, 20 percent Republicans.
That's uh a 13-point spread is two points larger than their September polling at 32 to 21 percent, and more tellingly, it's significantly larger than their election day sample, which included 35 percent Democrats and 26 percent Republicans for a gap of nine points.
So if you're gonna do a poll and you're gonna sample uh 33 percent Democrats versus 20 percent Republicans, 13 percent more Democrats, you can get the result you want.
And uh and then if if you get into racial weighting of the polling sample, then you can get even more results uh that that you want.
And then you can say to President Obama, see, see, we're on your side, see, don't fox us.
We're helping you, Mr. President, we're on your side.
It was it was it's a totally fraudulent poll.
Lamar Alexander Senate floor this morning, warning Obama he's going down the Nixonian path with his enemies list business.
Based upon that experience in my 40 years since then, in and out of public life, I want to make what I hope will be a friendly suggestion to President Obama in his White House.
Don't create an enemies list.
It's a mistake for the President of the United States and for the White House staff.
If the President and his top aides treat people with different views as enemies instead of listening to what they have to say, they're likely to end up with a narrow view and a feeling that the whole world is out to get them.
And as those of us who served in the Nixon administration know, that can get you into a lot of trouble.
Yeah, I have to wonder about this.
I've I mean, I've seen the obligatory stories from the mainstream press criticizing this.
It shouldn't focus on Fox.
All you're doing is elevating them.
Uh, we as members of the media are not comfortable with singling out other news organizations.
We uh members of the media, we don't remember this uh ever happening before.
A single news agency being targeted by an administration.
We really don't think this is and so here goes Senator Alexander saying, uh, it's a dangerous road, uh, President Obama, Nixon and Path, uh you likely end up with a narrow view if you don't listen to what your opponents have to say for crying out like I know what he's doing.
I know he's not this naive.
Can I explain what can I what do you want me to explain, uh, Snurton?
What Lamar Alexander?
Well, he's just getting it on the record here on the Senate floor that the president's uh conducting in his age are conducting an enemies list.
Um he's getting it out there in the official record and so forth, and actually having the weight of an erect elected Republican senator say it.
But I this is not gonna the Obama people, oh my God, I want an enemy's list.
Lamar Alexander said we can intellect Nixon, oh we better stop it.
That ain't gonna happen.
And these guys in the Obama administration, look, folks, uh Alinsky rules for radicals.
When faced with an opponent, get rid of the opponent.
You don't debate the opponent, you don't consider the opponent's ideas.
You say, I won, screw you, get out of the way.
And whatever I have to do to get you out of the way, is what it's right, it's happening right before our very eyes.
Here's more from Lamar Alexander from his Senate floor speech this morning.
As any veteran of the Nixon White House can attest, we've been down this road before, and it won't end well.
It's an enemy's list, only denigrates the presidency and the Republic itself.
It's already happening.
These are unusually difficult times.
Yeah.
With plenty of forces encouraging us to disagree.
Yeah.
Let's not start calling people out and compiling an enemy's list.
Let's push the street brawling out of the White House and work together on The truly presidential issues.
Creating jobs, reducing health care costs, reducing the debt, creating clean energy.
This is uh this is like telling the KGB to stop spying on people.
It's like telling Castro to stop torturing dissidents.
It's like telling Kim Jong-il, hey, you better not launch that missile.
It's like telling Mahmoud Akhmadinizad, you better not.
You better not, or we're gonna really get into some diplomacy with what?
Tell these guys to stop their enemies list.
Don't make me laugh, although I can't help but laugh.
Um anyway, I know he knows these words are not gonna have any impact.
He just wants to get the words on the record.
But this is how these people operate.
There won't be an opposition by the time they get through.
That would be the most dangerous marginalized man in America.
By the way, I erred uh uh a few minutes ago.
I I had verbal dyslexia.
It is Doug Hoffman, uh, not Mike Hoffman.
I called him Mike Hoffman, it's Doug Hoffman, who is uh seeking election in New York 23 against Didi Skazafava.
Uh it's amazing I got that name right and screwed up uh Doug versus uh Mike's Doug Hoffman, sorry about the misspeak.
Joe Biden said we were depressed and in a depression he's right.
Twenty-three states report higher unemployment in September.
The economy struggle to create jobs in the early stages of the recovery.
The associated president's unbeliever, Christopher Rugaber is the stenographer here on this story.
Unemployment rose in 23 states last month as the economy struggled to create jobs in the early stages of the recovery.
While layoffs have slowed, companies remain reluctant to hire.
43 states reported job losses in September, while only seven gained jobs.
Some of the states that lost jobs still saw their unemployment rates decline as discouraged workers gave up looking for work.
People who are out of work but no longer looking for jobs aren't counted as officially underemploys.
Why point out that the unemployment rate went down when the whole situation is actually getting worse?
All right, to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
Plymouth, Nebraska.
Chuck, you're next.
It's great to have you with us on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
Good to talk with you today.
Thank you.
Say, uh, there's no call.
I've just been thinking about the fact that the Democrats knowing that 2010's coming around the bin and they could see a possible landslide and the loss of their seats might become visually or become a turncoat per se, only to the fact that they'll uh go against the Obama plan.
I can see Pelosi and Obama getting the gun with these Democrats say, hey, you guys appear to be going against my plan.
You've all heard the uh call of the people, they don't want it.
But then when we gain control in 2010 again, keep our ring, then we'll go back to this thing and run it through.
Well, I don't think that's what Obama wants.
Obama wants this thing now.
He wants it by thanksgiving.
He doesn't care about the fallout to other Democrats.
I don't think people quite understand that.
Obama couldn't care less.
Proof of this, and this is why there is some friction out there.
Obama, in fact, there's this HBO documentary coming out that we uh talked about, Richard Cohen uh reviewed it.
Uh this is Mr. Perfect.
This is a man who never does anything wrong.
He never says anything wrong, he never dresses wrong, he never watches anything wrong, he doesn't do anything wrong.
Now, some Democrats in the House are getting a little upset that he hasn't presented a health care plan.
That he's making them take the hit.
That's exactly the way he wants it.
If it fails, it's gonna be their fault.
It isn't gonna be his.
If it succeeds, he's gonna take the credit.
Now, as to the 2010 election, I I I um I don't I don't I don't think Obama looks at it as okay, let's say I know the American people losing faith with me and losing faith with my party.
I'm gonna go up and talk to Pelosi, and I'm gonna go talk to Reed and I'm gonna say you guys need to get your members here to start changing their tune on this and come out against this version of home.
There is no way it's gonna happen.
in in in the first place, most of this Democrat Party has been radicalized.
Most of them believe all this.
This is not an act.
And most of them, I mean this is their religion.
This is where their soul is animated.
They're not going to give up on this.
They're not going to fake anything here.
They think they can't lose.
They run the show.
They're gonna ram it down our throats or any other orifice that's handy to them.
And then and you know they're they're uh that that's why Obama's struggling to get this done now because he sees public opinion is dwindling and that's why the big push and that's why we're waiting on Afghanistan.
Afghanistan's all about health care it's about nothing more than that.
Here's Randall in Columbia, South Carolina.
Hello, sir.
Hey Rush I appreciate you taking my call uh you know it uh I look at this and uh I see where the far left has gained some common sense towards the end of uh President Bush's uh term uh but uh I believe that uh the common sense they gain and the values that they wanted to instill in America uh they're gonna gain them back again.
Wait a minute wait I I am I must confess here to being accused uh uh confused you said that the far left has gained some common sense toward the end of the Bush term what do you mean?
Right.
I mean, as far as focusing on the war effort, for example, they wanted to pull out the troops of Iraq as one of their main campaign goals and focus on Afghanistan, although we've always been at war with Iraq since the first Desert Storm, Desert Shield War.
But they're gaining common sense.
I don't know if they're actually gaining common sense or they're losing common sense because they have 120,000 troops still in Iraq.
And we've got health care about ready to be shoved down our throats, which costs over a trillion dollars.
120,000 troops in Iraq, and we're not even focused on al-Qaeda and bin Laden and the people that actually attacked our country.
And our troops are deprived and just spread out, boots on the ground all over the world.
And then again, we can't even take care of our social programs and our own border at home.
Okay.
What is your point?
I don't get your point.
Well, it's just the lack of common sense.
It's just as far as everything on their agenda.
It's like, okay, we're for same-sex marriages, we're for pro-choice, but they value the family.
If everybody in their family exercised pro-choice to same-sex marriages, they wouldn't have a family anymore, eventually.
actually be extinguished or uh go extinct I mean every every policy if you look at coming from the far left doesn't have any common sense it doesn't have any foundation okay so that's your point um that you confuse me because you said they had common sense toward the end of the Bush term and I I've I I there's there's there's nothing sensible in a normal logical way about liberalism.
It is counter to everything about the human spirit.
It exists to destroy the human spirit.
Their target here is people who believe in God.
They have got to get belief in God shattered and turn that belief into the state or toward the state.
But talking about liberalism in terms of common sense, of course it has no common sense.
It's as dangerous as it can be.
Anyway, Randall, thanks much.
I appreciate it.
Kevin in Detroit, welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Yeah, good afternoon, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
My comment deals with Obama hiding behind the elections in Afghanistan to make his decision to send more troops.
I haven't read anything about his opponent, Abdullah, having any sort of different political agenda with regards to the U.S. presence in uh in Afghanistan so it seems to me regardless of who wins the U.S. mission won't change so it's purely political posturing because whoever wins the election their position on our involvement there isn't going to change.
So Obama's just behind hiding behind a moot point in that This is not just about Afghanistan, it's about us.
This is about U.S. national security interests, and I've never seen it in my life where we wait on military action, which could mean defeat or victory, until after we find out who the post-war leader's gonna be.
I mean, you're right, is this is clear, pure politics and posturing and waving for the right moment to do this so that there is as little damage from the left on health care.
With a dirty little secret here, uh, which the state controlled media is not going to report with with uh with any emphasis, is that Obama's got big trouble on the Democrat side of things.
Even in his fundraiser last night, he urged the Democrats, we must unify.
We can do this.
We're gonna do it.
Wait.
Is themselves.
Here, let's go to the audio soundbites.
Audio sound by number 27 this afternoon.
MSNBC Andrea Mitchell talked to Savannah Guthrie, the stenographer at the White House for NBC.
She had a sit-down interview with the one, and she said to the one, can you really uh announce a new strategy, roll out this new strategy, uh Afghanistan uh before the results of this runoff election are announced?
That was my first question to President today, and listen to his response.
We're still finding out how this whole process in Afghanistan is gonna unfold.
It is important to make sure that we understand the landscape and the partner that we're gonna be dealing with, because our strategy in Afghanistan is not just dependent on military forces.
This is part of a comprehensive strategy, it always has been.
And our basic attitude is that we are going to take the time to get this right.
We're not gonna drag it out.
We are dragging it out.
We are specifically dragging it up.
Take the time to get it right.
What kind of time does it take?
Your commanders say we need 40,000 more troops to support the 60,000 we have.
We have a strategy to win this thing.
And he's uh he's he's dithering around.
And she asked if she says she asked him, can you really announce a new strategy or roll out this new strategy before the results of the runoff election are announced?
I mean, talk about being in the tank.
Mr. Obama, I'm here to interview you.
And I know it's really, really tough for you to announce a strategy before the results are known, right?
Uh uh still finding out how the whole process is uh gonna unfold.
As I say, when is the commander-in-chief gonna act like one?
Tens of thousands of Americans fighting a war in Afghanistan that Obama himself said is crucial.
And he's out campaigning, attending, you know, dinners and throwing ritzy parties at the uh at the White House.
Savannah Guthrie then uh had this exchange, little exchange with Obama.
Could you envision, however, announcing a strategy before the runoff is determined?
I think it is entirely possible that we have a strategy formulated before uh runoff is determined.
We may not announce it.
What it doesn't matter.
There are American husbands, daughters, sons, wives, who are dying, who are putting their lives on the line, and he's worried about a runoff election.
And well, we may not announce a strategy, it may not announce it.
Why not announce it?
He can't even say that we're gonna win.
He can't even say we're gonna lead these people evicting.
He can't even say that.
And meanwhile, these stenographers sit there and they marvel, oh, at the brilliance of Obama.
Now, I'm a little long here, but you've got to hear this since we're on the roll.
This is uh Savannah Guthrie uh she she asked him how it is reflected in his own household.
Uh how I don't know what whatever is reflected in, but the answer's self-explanatory here.
Five years ago, six years ago, we were having a lot of negotiations because Michelle was trying to figure out okay, if the kids get sick, why is it that she's the one who has to take time off of her job to go pick them up from school, as opposed to me.
What I've tried to do was to learn to be thoughtful enough and introspective enough that uh I wasn't always having to be told that things weren't fair.
And that once in a while I'd actually voluntarily say, you know what, let me relieve this burden on you.
There's no doubt that our family, like a lot of families out there, uh, were ones in which uh the men uh are still a little obtuse about this stuff.
Now I have no idea what the subject is here.
I do I have no idea what she asked him.
I don't know what they were talking about, but it's uh it's pretty self-explanatory.
But did you hear that answer?
He was in negotiations with his wife over who would pick up the kids and take them to the hospital or whatever they get sick, pick them up in school, and men are very obtuse about this.
I mean, no wonder the guy's talking about a mop.
Guys be chicken.
It's obvious to me.
Coming up in the next hour, I mentioned the House of Representatives has um how to say this.
They have they have um reformulated the House version of uh healthcare and uh and it's $871 billion price tag, and uh because they realize they need to do something with it, that bill is the focus point, focal point of of uh of opposition.
And they they claim in their in their revamp version here that uh the way they've redone the bill will keep costs slow.
They will keep costs low.
Now, Ed Morrissey uh writes about this at Hot Air, the hot air blog, and I I I want to get into what he says and do it in the next hour, because there's a there's a profound difference between cost and price.
And these Democrats are trying to make people think that costs of something are the price, and they're they're two different things entirely.
And it's this last time we had wage and price controls was in the 70s with uh with Nixon.
I remember was in Pittsburgh and inflation was at 3%.
We had an oil crisis going on, and of course, management always loves wage and price controls.
Well, I can't give you raise.
The federal government says I can't give you a raise.
But prices, there's no way to control prices.
Here, I'll just give you one example of how price controls fail.
And all you have to do, if you were alive back then, ask yourself, did the price of things freeze?
And you well, well, you wanted to report whoever was violating this to some government authority, because the price was your wage was frozen, but the prices weren't.
So let's use a butcher as an example.
You go into the uh grocery store to butcher counter, and you uh you want to buy a cut of meat, and the price on that particular cut of meat is frozen, so they can't raise it legally.
All they do is create a new cut, like the Cine Ribye Red Eye.
Just call it something new, it's exempt from the price, price it whatever they want, and make up whatever it is they can't make because the price on the other stuff is frozen has happened all the time.
Prices just constantly skyrocketed during wage and price controls.
But the whole concept that the House now is is going to keep costs down, which is fooling everybody into thinking that the price now for health care is going to get cheaper.
The two are unrelated.
One one glaring example.
Have you ever heard of a loss leader?
The Larry King show was a loss leader for the then mutual network.
The Larry King show was on at midnight to six.
It made no money.
They were willing to lose money on it because they told affiliates that carry you have to carry our newscast during the day and our commercials, which is where they made their money.
So the costs of the Larry King show were sky high compared to the price they were able to sell advertising on it, which was zero.
So that's just that's that's one of the their loss leaders throughout business where people sell something for a price much less than what the product costs.
Sometimes they have to do that because of market pressure, other times they do it to create loss leaders and get business elsewhere in their organization.
Anyway, all that coming up, sit tight.
Now look at this.
The American American Cancer Society is now saying that the benefits of detecting many cancers, especially breast and prostate cancers, have been overstated.
In other words, early testing, the American Cancer Society says it's not really worth all that much.
We've kind of overstated it.
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