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Oct. 20, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 20, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
And it's time once again for three hours of sanity amidst a cesspool of what the hell is going to happen to us next.
Everything is an absolute mess.
It is designed to be an absolute mess.
And the state-controlled media is clapping its hands over all of this.
Greetings, my friends, and welcome.
It's Rush Limbaugh, the EIB network.
Here's the telephone number.
If you want to be on the program today, 800-282-2882, the email address El Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
I want to take you back to July 23rd of this year.
I was on Greta Van Sustran's show on the record on Fox News Channel.
And in light of a headline that's out there today, the AP, Tom Rom, the state control reporter for AP, higher jobless rates could be the new normal.
That's right.
The new norms are all over the place, and they're horrible, and they're rotten.
And we have to accept these high jobless rates could be the new normal.
This is what I told Greta Van Sustrin back on July 23rd.
This is not about health care.
It's about control.
It's about remaking the country, the economy.
Prove my point here that the joblessness is on purpose.
If your number one signature issue is healthcare, and his is, and if, which is true, that health insurance is not portable when you lose your job.
What's the best thing you can do for yourself?
Create unemployment.
The more people unemployed, the more people losing their health insurance.
The more people scared to death, the more people clamoring for it.
Please save my health insurance.
Please give me health insurance.
I'm scared because they've been drummed into the fact that there's something in this country killing them every day from coffee to nicotine to whatever it is.
So all of this destruction is taking place for redistribution of wealth.
He wants to return the nation's wealth to its rightful owners.
And I said that rightful owners being redistributed from the achievers to the non-achievers.
And so here we are today from the AP, approvingly, higher jobless rates could be the new normal, even with an economic revival, which is not happening and isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Many U.S. jobs lost during the recession may be gone forever and a weak employment market could linger for years.
That could add up to a new normal of higher joblessness and lower standards of living for many Americans.
Some economists are suggesting.
And the AP is approvingly reporting this.
The words, it's different this time, are always suspect, but economists and policymakers say the job-creating dynamics of previous recoveries cannot be counted on now.
Here is why.
The auto industry helped lead the nation out of past recessions, but the carnage among Detroit's automakers and the surplus of new and foreclosed homes and empty commercial properties make it unlikely that auto or construction will be engines of growth.
Well, who owns the auto business?
Who's running the U.S. car industry?
Who destroyed the U.S. housing industry?
Who is running the U.S. banking industry?
Barack Hussein Obama.
The auto and construction industries help lead the nation out of recessions, but the carnage among Detroit's automakers, the surplus of new and foreclosed homes.
Who's running all of this?
The administration of Barack Hussein Obama.
Also in this story, it is mentioned that there is a new reluctance here to spend money among higher income families.
Now, why would that be?
Why would higher income families suddenly be reluctant to spend it?
You know, it wasn't because they're coming after us.
That's why they're coming after us.
We're trying to hold on to what we've got for as long as we can before they find a way to take it from us as Obama seeks to return the nation's wealth to its rightful owners.
You go back to May of 2008 for some historical perspective.
Here's some excerpts from an article from an outraged AP.
Now, they're approving of this whole concept.
Higher jobless rates could be the new normal.
In fact, the AP is furthering the Obama administration's line, hey, get used to it.
This is your new country.
And most of you are going to be impoverished, lower middle class, and out of work, depending on us.
This is your new country.
And AP happily proffers that notion on you.
But go back to May 2nd of 2008, when guess who was still in office?
Employers cut far fewer jobs in April than in recent months, and the unemployment rate dropped to 5%, a better than expected showing that nonetheless reveals strains in the nation's labor market.
For the fourth month in a row, the economy lost jobs, the Labor Department reported Friday, but in April, the losses totaled 20,000, an improvement from the 81,000 reductions in payrolls logged in March.
The unemployment rate derived from a different statistical survey than the payroll figures fell to 5% from 5.1% in March.
Surveys showed that more people finding unemployment than those who didn't.
Now, lest we forget 5%, unemployment was considered full employment during the solid days of the Clinton years.
Yet in May of 2008, the AP tried to paint it as the harbinger of a second Great Depression, and they spent two years trying to convince the American people that we were in the throes of a recession, that it was worse than we had ever seen in the last 50 years.
The economy was plunging, and it was Bush's fault, and it was the fault of the Iraq War.
And unemployment, when they were making this point, was 5%.
Today, it's approaching 10%, and the AP tells us, get used to it, you dupes.
Get used to it, you slubs.
Get used to it, you serfs, because your time is up.
Right here, I'm holding it.
My formerly nicotine stained fingers higher jobless rates could be new normal.
Folks, they are telling you it's over.
Get used to it.
They've accepted it in Europe.
We've got to learn to accept it here.
We are Europeanizing ourselves right before our very eyes.
They've accepted it there.
We've got to learn to accept it here.
Now, there's interesting juxtaposition of news stories with this AP headline, high jobless rates could be new normal.
Right under it is this little headline, Apple profits up 47% on iPhone craze.
Now, what positioning?
On the one hand, an excuse for Obama.
Oh, no, the jobless rate normals, you got to get used to this.
Right below it, the results of entrepreneurial non-government efforts during a recession.
During a recession, Apple shares soar on earnings report.
Mac and iPhone sales soar.
I wonder if the administration is going to call Steve Jobs, say this is not fair.
You're doing too well during this recession.
We're going to have to penalize you for this is not right.
You can't do, it's not fair.
You're doing this well when other people aren't.
And they're doing this on increased sales in a recession.
The evidence right before our eyes of how to come out of this, right before our eyes.
And Apple, even though they're big libs, and even though they're big contributors to Obama, Apple before the day is over is, you know, it's got its cult-like fans, but how can this be happening?
This is not right.
Apple Incorporated said yesterday record sales of Macintosh computers and iPhones lifted its quarterly profit and revenue, which trounced Wall Street forecasts.
Shares of Apple rose 7% after hours, at one point hitting an all-time trading high of $204 a share.
The previous high was $202, which was set nearly two years ago.
iPhone sales climbed 7% to a record $7.4 million in Apple's fiscal fourth quarter.
And that rate could increase as Apple introduces the iPhone to the ChiComs.
Later this month, Steve Jobs, the CEO, said, we're thrilled to have sold more Macs and iPhones than in any previous quarter.
We got a very strong lineup for the holiday season, some really great new products in the pipeline for 2010.
Now, I'm a Mac guy, but I still love these stories, not because I'm a Mac guy, because the story is proof if you make a product that people want and you make it better than anybody else, you can make a profit even in a recession.
And you don't have to lay people off even in a recession.
No unions, no cash for clunkers, no tax rebate for hybrids, no government intervention, no stimulus, just a good product that means big profits.
And I won't be surprised if it's somewhere leaked that Obama, the Democrats, say this is evil and unfair and try to put a stop to this sometime.
This is the old economy on display.
Apple Computer, even though they're a high-tech bunch, represents the quote-unquote old economy, the American exceptional economy on display, juxtapositioned right against a falling, flailing, failing, embarrassing Obama America and Obama economy.
And then to add to it, add to it, we finally get the truth out of this administration.
Yesterday at a meeting of the middle-class task force, Vice President Biden spoke.
My grandpa used to say there's a suburb of Scranton called Manukau.
So when the guy at Manuka is out of work, it's an economic slowdown.
When your brother-in-law is out of work, it's a recession.
When you're out of work, it's a depression.
Well, it's a depression.
It's a depression for millions of Americans.
All right.
So they finally admit the truth.
Joe Biden, it's a depression.
Now, he's telling the truth here, but here's how I got a little chart here, ladies and gentlemen, that is just amazing that shows job creation and job loss since the middle of 2004.
The administration's running, wait, we've turned our backs.
The recession's over.
Yeah, the recession's over, and we've headed worse.
We're into depression.
And the Vice President of the United States is out there saying so.
New York Times headline, October 16th, by some reliable measures, the recession is over.
Exactly right.
Now we're into depression.
Total non-farm payrolls, all employees, U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Number of jobs in the U.S. last five years through September 09.
It starts in mid-September of mid-2004, and it looks like it's 132 million people working in the middle of 2004.
When you go to the peak, right at the end of 2007, we are at 138 million Americans working.
That's 7 million jobs created between the middle of 2004 and the end of 2008.
Today, we are below 131.
have lost every job that was created from the summer of 2004 through the end of 2007.
We have lost every job in just a year and a half.
This is Michigan.
The United States has become Michigan in its trend lines.
And the United States is prepared to duplicate what Jennifer Grandholm has done.
Raise taxes again, foist new programs that cannot be paid for, rack up more debt.
It can't be because these people don't get it.
It can't be because these people don't understand what they're doing.
It can't be because they have good intentions.
None of those things are true.
It is happening because we have people running this country who think it's about time we got ours, live like the rest of the world does because we have been stealing from the rest of the world for our lifestyles and our living standards.
And it's about time we got cut down to size and get used to it because these unemployment levels, according to the Associated Press very approvingly, are the new norms.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
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Now, this next story is equally as infuriating as the AP story.
It sounds complicated, but it's really not.
Let me see if I can once again, as I always do, make the complex understandable here.
Here's the headline in the Washington Times.
Justice Department concludes that black voters need the Democrat Party.
Story is from North Carolina, a little town called Kinston.
Voters in this small town decided overwhelmingly last year.
By the way, Kinston is two-thirds black.
Keep that in mind as I run through the details here.
Voters in this small city decided overwhelmingly last year to do away with the party affiliation of candidates in local elections.
Two-thirds black, one-third white.
They voted 65% to do away with party affiliation to local elections.
In other words, no Democrats or Republican identification on the ballot, just the candidates' names.
That's not good enough for the Obama administration.
The Obama administration and the Attorney General Eric Holder have recently overruled the electorate in Kinston, North Carolina, and decided that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democrat Party.
They are worried that whites will not vote for blacks unless it is said that they are Democrats in this county.
This is what this all can get boiled down to.
The Justice Department's ruling, which affects races for city council and mayor, went so far as to say that partisan elections are needed so that black voters can elect their candidates of choice identified by the department as those who are Democrats.
They are essentially saying at the Justice Department that black voters don't have the sense to understand who they're voting for, don't have any idea how to identify people they want to support unless the word Democrat is attached to their name.
The department ruled that while voters in Kinston, North Carolina will vote for blacks only if they're Democrats, and therefore the city cannot get rid of party affiliations for local elections because that would violate black voter rights to elect the candidates they want.
So the Obama Justice Department has decided to insult nationally and brazenly the black population of Kinston, North Carolina.
They are in effect saying, no, no, no, no, you guys down there, you cannot, even though you voted 65%, to get rid of party affiliation in local elections, you can't do it.
You're going to have to identify who the Democrats are, otherwise the black people won't know who to vote for.
That's what the Obama Justice Department is saying.
And Eric Holder said, wait, wait a minute.
We need to have a conversation about race.
We're still cowards about race in this country.
So you have here a 65% African-American district, a little town, Kinston, North Carolina, which voted overwhelmingly in favor of Obama.
The same electorate passed a nonpartisanship provision by a two-to-one margin.
Yet the civil rights division of the Holder Justice Department decided it knew better and using an unconstitutional law dictated its terms.
Like our moralizing attorney general likes to say, in things racial, we have always been and continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards.
If that's true, then Eric Holder's own civil rights division is cowardice central.
It shouldn't have taken much courage to let Kinston be Kinston.
So I don't know how else to say this.
According to the Department of Justice, Barack Obama's Department of Justice, a majority black district has a right to have the candidates of its choice elected and would, of course, only ever choose Democrats.
But the district is one-third white, and sometimes the vote of that one-third is decisive.
And if you don't tell the white voters who the Democrats are, they might mistakenly vote for Republicans.
And if you don't tell the black voters who the Democrats are, they might mistakenly vote for Republican.
That would deny the black majority the Democrats, the DOJ, now say they are entitled to under the Constitution to win elections.
So here's the bottom line, folks.
The bottom line.
The Constitution compels the election of Democrats.
The Constitution compels socialism.
Remember Obama's earlier lament from back in his days in Chicago?
He was on some FM, I think it was an FM radio station here.
I'm not sure.
There were so many of them.
We've played the audio.
Cookie, you don't need to get me the audio.
I'll just recite it.
You people remember having heard it.
His lament that the Warren Coat Court did not go far enough in matters of redistribution of wealth.
The Warren Coat Court did not go far enough.
So now they're simply saying, by ruling by fiat here, Constitution compels the election of Democrats.
The Constitution compels socialism.
And even if black Democrats, remember they are 65% of the population in Kinston, North Carolina, even if black Democrats in a small town want to run nonpartisan elections, Obama will not allow it.
They don't know what's best for them.
They must run as Democrats and get elected as Democrats.
We're not going to have any of this non-partisan stuff.
Bottom line is, it's an insult to their intelligence.
No way will the black voters in Kinston, North Carolina have any idea they're voting for Democrats unless it says Democrat next to their name.
Back in a second.
You know, I've got an idea.
I know that the Obama administration is listening to this show.
Rather than do this stuff piece kneel, like tell the people of Kinston, North Carolina the way they vote is not allowable under your rule, why don't you, David Axelrod and Rah Emanuel and Barack Obama and Anita Dunn and all the rest of you socialists, why don't you just get together and just outlaw the Republican Party?
Just make it official.
Just outlaw the Republican Party.
Just rewrite the Constitution to require redistribution of wealth and group rights over individual liberty.
Just convene a convention amongst yourselves and rewrite the Constitution.
You're doing it anyway.
Why not just make illegal alien citizens?
Just snap your fingers and make it so.
And just shut down the sewer that the internet is.
Shut it down.
Shut down talk radio.
Shut down Fox News.
And we'd all have the kind of society Obama and his fellow anti-liberty, anti-private property, anti-constitutionalists want.
Why go through all this angst?
Why put everybody through this?
Just for crying out loud, you're snapping your fingers and owning car companies and Wall Street and setting pay scales to everybody.
Why not just outlaw the Republican Party, rewrite the Constitution, require redistribution of wealth, get rid of talk radio, get rid of the, just do it.
It's where you're headed anyway.
Make it official.
Show everybody.
Obama's out there playing a daisy, having a meeting right now with Nouri al-Maliki, the either president or prime minister.
I don't know what the title is of Iraq.
And Obama's leftists are not going to be happy with what they heard Obama say.
He reiterated to al-Maliki our commitment to Iraq.
Now, while this is going on, Obama's playing a daisy game with Afghanistan.
More troops.
You know, you pick there, he loves me, he loves me not.
He loves me.
You do it with a piece of clover or a daisy.
You pick the petals off.
Sort of like Yeni Meeni Mani Mo.
More troops, no more troops, more troops, no more troops, whatever it is.
Don't you find it curious?
All of a sudden, the election in Afghanistan is now in dispute, giving Obama a reason to vacillate on sending troops to Afghanistan, although he did call Hamid Karzai today and congratulate him on his victory.
Now, somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this, but wasn't it James Carville who went over to Afghanistan and ran the campaign of Karzai's opponent?
And so even with Carville involved in running the campaign of the opponent, somehow we got a flawed result.
But that's just a smokescreen and it's irrelevant.
Generals McChrystal and Petraeus are calling for troop reinforcements in Afghanistan.
Commander-in-Chief Obama has been in conflict with politician-in-chief Obama.
Commander-in-Chief Obama knows we need more troops.
Politician-in-Chief Obama knows that Move On Daily Cause George Soros say no more troops.
With three months, almost three months of dithering, both Obamas have finally discovered an Afghanistan escape clause.
But not for our troops, but for him.
The election was tainted.
Oh, yippee, the election was tainted.
What everyone knew all along is now official.
Rahm Emanuel sent out to triumbaloon over the weekend.
With something like, no more troops until Afghanistan has a legitimate government.
We get this left behind us, whatever.
Whoever is or isn't the titular head of Afghanistan tomorrow, our 60,000 troops need 40,000 reinforcements now.
Our troops are waiting.
Our allies are waiting.
If Obama says no, Mos, will NATO say more troops?
Can you imagine any commander-in-chief in our history deciding not to press on until the post-war leader was chosen?
Meanwhile, our troops are waiting and our commander-in-chief is voting present, is dithering.
It might be good politics.
Sure isn't good leadership.
But then again, some of us know that.
Oh, and this from the Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, the U.S. cannot wait for problems surrounding the legitimacy of the F-again government to be resolved before making a decision on troops.
Gates was speaking to reporters on board a plane traveling to Tokyo.
He described the situation in Afghanistan as an evolutionary process that would not improve dramatically overnight, regardless what course is taken following the country's flawed August election.
We are using an August election and dithering over the outcome of that.
Here it is, the middle of October.
Gates says, I see this is a process, not something that's going to happen all of a sudden.
So you have John Bolton has a great column today.
I forget, I don't know, Real Clear Politics or somewhere.
Obama's foreign policy is diplomacy.
But Bolton points out that diplomacy is not a policy, it's a technique, it's a tactic.
We don't have a foreign policy.
We do not have a foreign policy, except to the extent that it is defeat.
Another tape has surfaced of another Obama official praising Mao Zedong.
Let's first go back to June the 5th.
We had this for you last Friday.
This is Anita Dunn, White House communications director, at a high school graduation at the Washington National Cathedral.
The third lesson and tip actually come from two of my favorite political philosophers, Mao Zetong and Mother Teresa.
Not often coupled with each other.
In 1947, when Mao Zedong was being challenged within his own party on his plan to basically take China over, the nationalist Chinese held the cities.
They had the army.
They had the Air Force.
They had everything on their side.
And people said, How can you win?
How can you do this?
How can you do this?
Against all the odds against you.
And Mao Zedong said, You fight your war and I'll fight mine.
And think about that for a second.
Yeah, I've seen this clip aired on television, and I've seen the noted pundit class commenting on this.
And they're saying, Well, you know, Anita Dunn, I mean, she is what she is, but certainly she's not endorsing the policies of Mao Zedong.
I mean, he killed 30 million Chinese in his revolution, certainly.
I mean, we certainly see this.
She doesn't, I mean, let me just put it to you this way: Can you think of any other administration in this country where a president or a communications specialist or anybody else would run around and start praising Mao Zedong as a role model, as a philosopher to follow?
Can you think of any administration who would have previously cited Stalin or Lenin or Castro?
This administration idolizes all these people.
I'm not suggesting they're mass murderers.
I'm saying they envy the total control, the tyrannical control that Mao Zetong had.
You fight your battles and I'll fight mine.
We've got another one to add to the list now.
This is the manufacturing czar, Ron Bloom.
He was the car czar, but he's moved over to manufacturing now.
He called the free market nonsense.
This is February 2008 in New York City, the sixth annual distressed investing forum.
And he was special assistant to the president of the United Steelworkers Union at the time.
He's now the White House manufacturing czar, Ron Bloom.
We get the joke.
We know that the free market is nonsense.
We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone who'll pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch.
We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults-only, no-limit game.
We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun.
Now, he's speaking as a union guy there, but he's now the manufacturing czar at the White House.
got two high-ranking White House officials citing their appreciation for and respect for the philosophies of Mao Tzitong.
It is happening.
And I'll tell you, I'll tell you what really amuses me at times is people, when they hear about, does Obama know who these people are?
Obama is Anita Dunn.
Obama is Ron Bloom.
Obama is Van Jones.
Obama is Mark Lloyd.
Obama is Acorn.
Do you think these people just accidentally got chosen to serve in this administration?
Obama is these people.
He gets to go out there and portray himself as Mr. Perfect.
He always smiles.
He never, ever does anything wrong.
He never commits one faux pas.
He never loses his cool.
He never says radical things.
He's the public face of centrism and moderation, and yet the people doing his dirty work are the same radicals that he is.
He is a radical.
It's for everyone there to discover.
Some people just don't want to believe it.
So Anita Dunn, praising Mao Zeitung, is telling us that since Obama now has the army in the cities, we should act like Mao to overtake him.
Is that what she's saying?
I mean, if we followed Mao, what would we do now, Ms. Dunn?
If you believed in Mao Zetong, you fight your war, I'll fight mine.
Okay, you guys have the cities and you have the guns.
So does the rest of what you believe in Mao Zeitung now follow?
You roll into these cities with the guns and just finally take over.
Why don't you just outlaw the Republican Party?
Why not just rewrite the Constitution and require redistribution distribution of wealth?
Just shut down Fox Radio, Fox News and talk radio.
Just shut it down like Hugo Chavez.
Just shut it down.
You had a lot of people standing up and applauding for you.
National Football League would be happy if you did it.
Afghan elections fraudulent?
Does that mean that Carville took an ACORN representative with him over there in August to run that campaign?
Do they have lawyers like Obama representing them in Afghanistan just as Obama was a lawyer for Acorn?
I'll be back.
Stay with us.
We go back to the audio soundbites.
President Obama this afternoon at the White House with the Iraqi Prime Minister Inuri al-Maliki.
I had the opportunity to speak with President Karzai this morning, and I wanted to congratulate him on accepting the certification of the recent election.
I also want to commend Senator John Kerry, who was in the region traveling and ended up working extensively with Ambassador Eikenberry and was extraordinarily constructive and very helpful.
So I think he deserves great congratulations.
However, this election turns out to ensure that we can move the Afghan, that we can move Afghanistan towards peace and security and prosperity and that the will of the Afghan people is ultimately done.
What the hell is he talking about?
Why did he call Karzai and congratulating him on accepting the certification of the recent election and then go on to say, however the election turns out, we can all move the certifications for a runoff?
Well, okay, so Hamid Karzai is going to stand for re-election.
And while all this dithering goes on, well, we can't send the troops in there.
We can't ramp up the truth levels because we don't know who the new leader is going to be.
John Kerry, I just makes me the swift boat king in there.
John Kerry happens to show up and settle this and do great work.
I don't know where Hillary is.
I don't care where Hillary is.
I don't care.
I'm in such a foul mood today.
I couldn't care less where Hillary Clinton is.
It doesn't bother me a whit.
These people are sitting here systematically, these incompetent boobs, and these competent fascists are destroying the United States of America right in front.
And people on our side think every day is just, that's the next news story.
Oh, this is a great news.
Well, they're going to get a lot of hits on this story.
Oh, man, look at my website's going to go gangbusters.
Oh, wow, what a great news story.
Our country's being dismantled right before our very eyes.
People on our side want to play like this.
It's just politics as usual.
Yeah, Democrats won the election.
Yeah, they have the right to implement their policies.
What?
Have you looked at what the policies are?
Have you looked at what the ultimate objective of the policies is?
I don't see any opposition to this in the Republican Party.
I just look at this and I just feel powerless to stop any of this.
Just a guy on the radio, powerless to stop any of this.
And I'm sure that you do too.
And then I come across stories like this, and I just laugh myself silly, except this is going to happen too.
The Associated Press reporting, journalism is at risk.
Journalism is at risk.
And American society, American society must act to preserve it.
That's a key message in a new report co-authored by Len Downey, the former executive editor of the Washington Post.
In a paper commissioned by the Columbia University Journalism School, Downey and Michael Shudson, a Columbia professor, argue that the government, universities, and nonprofit foundations should step in as newspapers suffer financially.
Among other steps, the authors recommend that the government ensure the tax code allows local news outlets to operate as nonprofits.
Change the tax code to let the news business become non-profit.
They used or urged philanthropic organizations to support local reporting, and they suggest that a fund be established using fees from telecom or internet providers for grants to innovative local news groups.
Ladies, do you have any idea what this is?
This is all about a panic that has settled in.
The news business cannot sustain itself anymore.
They're saying, we don't want bailouts.
We don't want bailouts.
No, no, no.
We don't want bailouts.
We just want universities and philanthropic organizations, rich foundations, to endow journalism and make it a non-profit concern for the express purpose of having it controlled.
All the way down to the local news level.
Don't be fooled by all this talk about how it's necessary to preserve local news reporting.
This is about controlling the media on every level, especially on the national level.
And this is how they intend to do it.
And this comes as the New York Times is reeling today, the newsroom, because they've had to offer another 100 people or 100 people bailouts or else you get canned, 8% of the New York Times newsroom is going to be laid off.
And it's going to happen in December.
And these people, oh, God, oh, no, it's worth Christmas without a job.
Well, join the 8 million other people.
Who you seem to have no sympathy for, who've lost their jobs.
So journalism in deep trouble, ad rates, circulation, pages, everything down the tubes.
And now they want us to bail them out, make them nonprofits, federal bailout money, tax Exemptions and contributions from philanthropic Organizations.
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