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Sept. 3, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 3, 2009, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yes, indeed, America's anchorman is away today, and this is your undocumented anchorman, Mark Stein, a refugee from government healthcare on three continents, I think, at the last count, and proud to be the token foreigner among the right-wing domestic terrorists the Barack Obama website has been warning us about.
So bear that in mind.
Three hours of substitute level, substitute host-level excellence in broadcasting.
Straight ahead, the great Walter E. Williams will be in tomorrow.
That's the enhanced substitute host level excellence in broadcasting.
And Monday, we'll have a best of rush for Labor Day.
And then Tuesday, he's back with three hours of the real deal at premium strength.
You may remember that Jill from Ithaca on yesterday's show said that all of us right-wing guys didn't really believe in all this stuff we spout, but we say it because we're in the pay of corporations, which is obviously true.
Rush is on the take from Halliburton and Whole Foods, because they're apparently a sinister right-wing death corp since their head Honsho expressed some mild misgivings about Obamacare and the left has decided to boycott his arugula.
We're going to check in, by the way, on how the arugula boycott's going because Daily Coss and moveon.org and all the rest of them have said, Ixne on the arugula, we're off to Lardbutberger.
We're out of here.
We're not eating this stuff anymore.
We're shutting you down.
You can take your curly end dive and shove it where the sun don't shine.
So if you've got any news on how the left arugula boycott is going, I'd be interested to hear it.
Like if you're at the Whole Foods loading bay where the fair trade arugula is unloaded and it's like Lee J. Cobbin on the waterfront down there, let me know.
1-800-282-2882.
Anyhow, you know, obviously Jill's point is that we're all in the pay of corporations.
Russia's in the pay of Halliburton.
And full disclosure, I'm in the pay of a feed store in Dead Moose, New Hampshire.
I get free millet for spouting this stuff.
So bear that in mind.
Obviously, I don't, you know, I don't really believe it, but I get, you know, like 30 bucks a millet for talking like this.
So that's what I do.
Yeah, a little extra suet, too.
That's when I do the real crazy, that's when I do the real crazy healthcare stuff.
I'm getting the millet and the suet.
But basically, for spewing all this right-wing fodder, I'm paid off in fodder.
After all, you know, as Jill in Ithaca figured out, none of us could seriously believe.
I mean, what sentient being could seriously believe in the virtues of small government, individual liberty, and a self-reliant citizenry?
The only possible explanation is that we're all in the pay of sinister corporations.
President Obama has had the worst month of his presidency.
Ratings-wise, no president in 60 years has slid this low so fast.
So when the going gets tough, the Tough give yet another speech.
He's only given 111 speeches on healthcare, and the more he speaks about it, the less Americans like the sound of it.
So what's he going to do now?
Go on, guess.
Take a while, guess, take a while, guess.
He's giving another speech, which is great news for Republican generic ballot numbers.
The headline from the Washington Post: president to flesh out his vision in speech.
I think he'd be better off fleshing out his flesh and doing another one of those nude photo shoots for Vanity Fair where his perfectly sculpted pectorals emerge shimmering from the Hawaiian surf.
But what do I know?
He's decided he can turn this thing around with one more speech because he's the greatest orator since Socrates.
If you can imagine Socrates doing eight sets a night at Open Mic Night at the Soaring Rhetoric Lounge out on Route 103.
Once more onto the breach, he's given another speech.
This time he's giving an address to a joint session of Congress.
But don't worry, it'll be televised like they all are, so you won't miss anything.
And he's going to, and he's going to lay out this time, flesh out his vision, because apparently that's what's been missing all this time.
And you'll be able to see it live in primetime on television.
I saw something in TV Guide about the first nightly talk show in primetime starting this month.
And I thought it was a reference to the new Jay Leno show.
But apparently it's the all-new Barack Obama healthcare pitch, nightly at 9 Eastern, 8 Central, for as long as this thing lasts.
After the speech, they're going to be handing out study materials inviting you to write an essay on what you can do to help the president make our lives better.
Oh, no, wait, no, wait.
That's his speech.
Sorry, I'm getting confused.
That's his speech to the grade schoolers.
They have the study material saying what you can do afterwards to help the president.
But if you're an adult citizen, you don't have to do the written test after the Obama speech.
Yet, yet.
I mean, they may introduce it next year.
Anyhow, the Washington Post is extremely excited about this forthcoming address to a joint session of Congress to flesh out the vision.
I don't know.
Why is it that that lie?
I don't know.
The flesh out the vision lie.
It doesn't rig right for some.
I don't know what it is.
It's sort of kind of, it's odd.
It's the Washington Post headline writers fleshing out the vision.
I don't know what it is.
It conjures a vision.
It's a strange thing.
It reminds me of the Japanese Prime Minister's wife, who has had a vision.
She revealed yesterday, I think it was, that she had an out-of-body experience in which she went to the planet Venus and met Tom Cruise during a previous life in which he was apparently Japanese.
No Elvis, which is unusual.
This is in Japan.
Actually, I don't know.
It wasn't clear to me whether the Japanese Prime Minister's wife, while she was on the planet Venus, went to a karaoke bar.
She might have run into Elvis there, but she just ran into Tom Cruise, apparently.
Anyway, if you get a flesh out of a vision, the Japanese Prime Minister's wife's vision is way ahead so far of Obama's healthcare vision.
But the Washington Post story continues, quote, aide said Obama will use the speech to add more specifics to his vision.
Okay, this is like Martha Stewart now, isn't it?
It's like, first take your vision.
Here's one I made earlier.
And after you've baked that in the oven at 350 degrees, then add one and a half cups of specifics.
It's like the Martha Stewart Christmas book, where she explains how to make the, what's it called, the Coxcombe, the Coxcomb Topiary, which is this HR, HR, from the look on HR's face, this does not feature in the HR household come Christmas.
The Coxcomb Topiary, which is this thing, it looks like a, it starts out as this ugly misshapen thing that looks like a hobbit that's fallen into the trash compactor.
But then Martha gets to work on it, studding it, studding it with tiny pomegranates dusted with clear glitter.
And I'm quoting from memory here, by the way, so don't try this at home.
I don't want to hear any complaints.
But this is basically what Obama is doing.
He's taking his vision, which so far is this grotesque, misshapen, hobbit-like creature that looks like it's fallen in the trash compactor.
But he's going to take his vision and then stud it with little bits of sparkly, tingly, glittery specifics here and there.
So you'll all get to like it.
As the Washington Post says, he's going to add more specifics to his vision.
So it's going to be Barack Obama and the actually one of the specifics, a Philadelphia Soul Act back in the 70s, I think, Barack Obama and the specifics.
Like he sings, would you like to fly in my beautiful balloon?
And then the specifics go up, up and away in beautiful, close harmony.
So that's what's going to Barack Obama and the specifics.
We'll be taking a flyer in his beautiful balloon, up, up, and away.
Look, he can do this all he wants.
He can give speeches, as he's evidently planning to, every day until it's for the for the next four years.
But it's not a message issue.
It's not a vision issue.
It's not a specifics issue.
This is a substance issue.
It's about the core substance.
The American people get this on a very primal visceral gut level, that this is a massive annexation by the federal government of something that's about as central to your life as it can be, and they don't want it.
And adding the specifics to it isn't going to help.
All that's going to do is turn your vague, amorphous dislike about this thing into a specific, explicit loathing of it.
So just giving another classic Obama speech is not going to do it.
What else can he do?
As Hillary Clinton said last year, this is the guy's qualification to be president.
He gave a great speech to the Democratic Convention.
He gave so many great speeches, he put them on an iPod and presented it to Her Majesty the Queen at Buckingham Palace.
I'd be interested to know how often she plays that, by the way, because it's amazing how less special a gift of speeches by Barack Obama seems when he's given them every night of the week all over your TV screen.
But that's his only solution now.
He's in trouble.
He's had the worst month of his presidency.
But let's try one more speech.
That'll do it.
Cue the specifics, flesh out the vision.
Meanwhile, out on the streets, it's turning ugly.
This is from the Los Angeles Times.
Man bites off man's finger at Obama healthcare rally.
Ventura County Sheriff's deputies were called to the intersection of Lynn and Hillcrest Road in Thousand Oaks near Los Angeles, according to TV station KTLA.
An estimated 100 supporters of healthcare reform affiliated with moveon.org, no astroturf there, by the way, this is the genuine thing.
100 supporters of healthcare reform affiliated with moveon.org had gathered as part of a nationwide array of local pre-Labor Day rallies to attract attention in support of Obama's reform plans.
Instead, the rally attracted the attention of a group of anti-healthcare reform protesters across the streets.
Police reports say one pro-protester moved into the group of anti-protesters.
Some angry words were exchanged.
The pro-protester punched an anti-protester, a witness told KTLA.
A scuffle ensued, and the pro-protester had a finger bitten off.
The injured man walked to Los Robles Hospital with his finger to receive health care.
By the way, he's very lucky because the waiting time for finger reattachment surgery in Scotland now is up to 18 months.
So he'd have been waiting a lot longer if this had happened to him under a socialized healthcare system.
But you know, if this can, this is how serious things are getting now.
If people are now biting each other's fingers off at healthcare rallies, look at the trillions of dollars that is going to add to the costs of healthcare over the years.
So when we talk about how can we lower the costs of healthcare, it seems pretty clear that one way to lower the cost of health care would be for Obama to forget about his health care reform, which is now driving Americans to bite off each other's fingers all over California.
And the last thing California needs is for its massive deficits to be blown even further into the stratosphere by all this emergency finger reattachment surgery.
So we're going to talk, what can Obama do to turn his speech around?
Are you interested in him fleshing out his vision?
Are you interested in seeing his specifics?
When he's fleshed out his vision in the flesh, do you want to see those specifics in the flesh?
That's what we're going to talk about.
1-800-282-2882 as Obama embarks on his healthcare comeback.
Mark Stein, infra rush on the EIB network.
Mark Stein on the EIB network, Infra Rush, getting excited, counting down till Obama's next prime time healthcare speech.
Because if there's one thing you can always use, it's another primetime healthcare speech.
Politico reports that Obama has held four primetime news conferences, far more than his recent predecessors at this point in their presidencies, along with his speech before Congress in February.
And the networks are getting a bit antsy about this, because, you know, this is a great time to be in the TV network business as it is.
And they're losing money every time they can't show their advertising while the president's yaking away.
So they lose money every time he takes an hour of airtime, significant amounts of money, every time he takes an hour of airtime to talk yet again about healthcare.
Paul Bergala, Paul Bergala, the great attack dog of CNN, Democratic Party attack dog, says, if the networks don't carry it, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It's not like they're going to be bumping Masterpiece Theater.
What are they going to run?
Bikini models eating worms in some kind of contest.
This is what Obama's speeches are depriving you of.
Right now, Bikini Models Eating Worms in some kind of contest would be doing a lot better than another speech from Obama on healthcare.
It's the third time since June that Obama has tried to sell his healthcare to the American people during prime time, and the ratings are dying.
He's dying out there in the ratings.
This is the thing.
By the way, the president is supposed to be this celebrity president, our first celebrity president, Mr. Charisma, Mr. Personality.
No genuine celebrity makes himself this cheap by going on air all the time at the drop of a hat.
You know, how often do you see, I don't agree with Barbara Streisand on much, for example, but one thing I think she's got right is that she's not out there giving interviews, doing shows, and hogging up TV airtime all the time for no good reason.
And this idea that the Obama personality now can save the healthcare plan, I think, is absolute nonsense.
People say, well, look, people like Obama as a, personally, in a personal sense, they still like President Obama.
But the more he explicitly links these unpopular policies to him, the more that approval rating is going to nosedive.
He simply is not good enough to be interesting enough.
He's not yet been able to come up with like the five words, a five-word rationale for this massive government annexation of one-sixth of the economy.
And if he hasn't managed to do it in the previous 111 speeches he's given on this subject, what is the likelihood of him being able to do it in this joint address to Congress or in his speech to American grade schoolers?
I'm not sure, by the way, in the grade school thing, whether he's actually whether he's going to be talking about healthcare.
It will be interesting if he decides to inflict that on them for his appearance in classrooms.
By the way, we mentioned this yesterday, and I was thinking about it.
My real objection to this speech to school children has got nothing to do with the content of the speech.
And it's not even really to do with these what I think are unseemly and improper so-called study lessons and study materials that teachers are going to be inflicting on kids afterwards.
And by the way, I would encourage all grade schools and all parents who want to opt out of this thing to do so because the idea that the speech will be just some bland bit of fluff telling kids to study hard, that is not education.
I'm sorry, but there's enough opportunities in the average American grade school curriculum to avoid education as it is.
They don't need to have an hour taken up by the president spouting bland generalities.
I'd rather they spent that hour doing a bit of history, doing a bit of English, doing a bit of science, doing anything other than just listening to some platitudinous drivel from the president.
But the fact is, when you beam the platitudinous drivel in by the big personality president, you are doing something which I don't think is proper in a citizen republic.
You're conflating the head of state with the state.
And that is not the role of the American president.
This idea that you can't get away from Obama's image and Obama's personality.
Anyone who's traveled in various third world dumps knows one thing you're always aware of is the omnipresence of the president for life.
He's there everywhere, even in relatively civilized places.
Like if you go through Jordan, everywhere in Jordan, you see these huge photographs of King Abdallah beaming down on you everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
I was very struck a couple of weeks after Saddam fell in Iraq.
I was driving around western and northern Iraq and I made a point in every town I visited of dropping by the local school.
They had these like Iraq was basically invented by the British and they had these little 1950s British school signs when you're approaching a school showing like an English schoolboy, an English schoolgirl crossing the road in 1950s English school uniforms.
And I stopped at all these schools and Saddam had just fallen and what you noticed in every room was the faded paint on the wall where the portraits of Saddam had all been taken down.
Personality cults and personality leaders do not belong in grade schools in a democratic republic.
It's inappropriate.
1-800-282-2882, lots more straight ahead.
Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show and Walter E. Williams will be here tomorrow.
Yep, you may remember back at the top of the hour, I was talking about this story from the LA Times about a healthcare rally at Thousand Oaks near Los Angeles, in which a pro-healthcare reform protester punched an anti-Obamacare protester.
A scuffle ensued, and the pro-Obamacare protester then had a finger bitten off.
We now have on the line Scott, who called us from Thousand Oaks, California.
And Scott, apparently you were at this rally.
Yes, hello.
Hey, you're on the air.
You're live on the Rush Limbaugh show, Scott.
Okay.
Yeah, I was right there.
I was right there when it happened.
And how did this scuffle develop?
Well, we were on our side, which was right next to the Oaks Mall.
They were on the adjacent corner.
We were standing on the sidewalk.
And the gentleman from the other side from the Obama side came across the street over the island, which is anyway, and approached us.
And while standing in the street, which has through traffic, shouted at us and said, are you for a public option?
Are you against a public option?
And we said, no.
Them's fighting words.
Right.
He started it.
Yeah, exactly.
And then we all said no.
And then he walked directly to the elderly man who, you know, without taking anything away from him, he was, you know, he wasn't as, you know, he wasn't, he was, you know, he kind of targeted him.
He went to that, the elderly man, and he went up to him.
He says, why are you not for the public option?
Oh, right.
And the elderly man said that I don't want the government's involvement in anything, essentially.
And then the Obama gentleman said, and got even closer, kind of like a baseball coach gets to an ump, you know, right up in his face and says, you're an idiot.
So he aggressed him.
He got real close, you know, right up to him, you know, well within three feet.
And he was standing.
I want to make this clear.
He was standing in the street while we were on the sidewalk.
He aggressed and aggressed him.
And he threw the first punch, did he?
Well, he was pointing at him and he got up right in his face and it was very threatening because he across the street in an unpredictable way.
Right.
That's actually the best way to do it in Los Angeles, in my experience.
But yeah, so he got in his face and how did the old guy respond?
Well, the old guy, this gentleman, the elderly gentleman was trying to kind of defend himself.
And it wasn't, I would call it a defensive strike because this gentleman, it was very unpredictable the way he approached him.
And so the Obama gentleman grabbed him and pulled him into the street.
Okay.
And then the scuffle started.
And just about as quick as it started, it basically ended.
And the old man grabbed his hand and blood started coming.
And I walked up to him and he's like, he bit my finger off.
And we got him up.
So just say, who lost the finger?
The elderly gentleman.
So it was the LA Times misreported it in characteristic fashion by saying that, in fact, it was the pro-Obama guy who'd lost his finger.
And it turned out it was the, in fact, it was the pro-Obama guy who bit off the anti-Obama guy's finger.
The anti-Obama guy lost the finger.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, he presumably lost his finger and went off to hospital.
Yes.
What happened?
He was going to walk off to the hospital to walk off to get to his car.
And he was there on his own.
And at the time, I mean, I was so stunned by what had happened.
I had just seen a man's finger who had been bitten off.
And I was trying to kind of take it in.
That's just American democracy in action.
And so I kind of put it together to myself and I thought, well, his finger is gone.
It wasn't sort of just sort of bitten off at the end.
There was a stump.
And I knew that his finger was either somewhere around or the only other option would have been that this guy had.
I hate to think, okay, so anyway, I look around and I found the end of his finger about 10 feet away from where this fight had occurred over on the side by on the side of the road.
And I picked it up.
So it was in the highway.
It was actually on the street.
It was on the street there.
With vehicular traffic.
Right.
And so I picked up the finger, and the guy that was with us in our group, we called and the, you know, 911.
And I said, you know, I don't know where the gentleman went because we ran after where the parking area, where he might have parked, and we couldn't find him.
So you were like looking for him.
You had his finger and you were like running after trying to figure out where the fingerless guy had gone.
Yes, I was.
And so we decided, you know, after talking to the, you know, the 911, she said to, well, you know, Los Robos is the closest hospital.
So we hurried and I wrapped it up in a napkin.
We drove it over there.
We gave him his finger back.
You found him when you got to this hospital and you went to like check-in and they said, look, you said we got a finger here.
He was right there in the emergency.
When we walked through the sliding doors, we could see right into where they were taking care of him.
And we just ran the finger ran to him right away.
And they immediately put it, wrapped it up in a cold pack to keep it cold.
And they were washing his finger off.
You actually did him an enormous favor there.
But you've actually identified the central part of the story that the LA Times got wrong.
It was not the pro-Obama guy who lost his finger.
It was the anti-Obama guy who lost his finger.
And thanks to your efforts, you prevented it from being run over by a Los Angeles taxicab or whatever and got it out of the road and used, identified the nearest hospital, went there, and basically said, has anyone here lost a finger?
And presumably.
Raise your hand.
And basically restored the finger to him.
Yeah.
Gave you the finger to him.
I haven't spoken with him and I haven't heard, but when I got back to, we went, after we gave him his finger, we went back to the area because I thought, well, let's see if we can't find this guy.
Believe it or not, when we were leaving, we had to turn right and go right by all the Obama folks and go to the hospital.
And I saw the gentleman, the guy, I shouldn't say that.
You saw the biter, the biter.
And he hadn't left yet.
And the police hadn't quite gotten there.
And I think that as the police got there, that he, because when we got back, I talked to the police that were there taking statements and things.
And I went with one of the police officers and walked through the Obama group, the pro-healthcare government health care group, looking for them, looking for him, and we couldn't.
Because you wanted to confront him over biting the finger off, didn't you?
Well, we wanted to catch him.
Right, right.
Oh, right.
You wanted to actually report him to the authorities, yeah.
He targeted this gentleman that he didn't target me, one of the other guys that's bigger than me.
He picked him two other guys that were taller.
He targeted the gray-haired gentleman that had glasses on.
Right.
And we were all standing on the sidewalk, not in the street.
This guy came in an unpredictable way, aggressively, and went to the smallest.
He picked on the smallest, oldest, most bespectacled guy and bit his finger off.
And this is, and Scott did a good deed here.
Scott found the finger.
He thought this finger's got to be around here somewhere.
He went looking in the street.
He found the finger before Governor Schwarzenegger's motorcade had run over it or whatever.
And he took it to the nearest hospital and gave the guy the finger.
And he got it back and saved, presumably saved the California health system a fortune in or Medicare, I guess, because this was an elderly gentleman, Medicare, a fortune in finger reconstruction surgery.
And they simply reattached the old finger.
But this is what it's come to, folks.
These Obamacare guys, next time you're told, next time Nancy Pelosi tells you that there's Nazis, there's Nazis out there at these healthcare reform meetings, we're not the guys biting the fingers off.
This is an Obamacare supporter who chewed off, he sought out the most vulnerable member of society and bit off his finger.
Thanks to Scott from Thousand Oaks, California.
We're going to stay on top of this.
We're going to stay on top of this whole finger story and see what develops out of it.
But right now, right now, this is Obamacare basically giving you the finger and not just giving you the finger, but biting it off.
So things are getting out of control of these healthcare rallies.
Lots more straight ahead on the Rush Limbaugh Show from the EID network.
Mark Stein on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Rush will be back live on tape on Monday for a Best of Rush Labor Day show and then live in the flesh, fleshing out his vision very fleshily on Tuesday.
Let's go to Kevin in Columbus, Ohio.
Kevin, you wanted to respond to the big finger story out in the Thousand Oaks where they're chewing each other's fingers off.
Kevin, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Oh, good, good.
Thanks, Kevin.
What point did you want to make?
Okay, the only thing that keeps bothering me through this whole debate about this healthcare reform and whatever you want to call it is now a lot of these elderly people, for some odd reason, don't seem to realize that their Medicare and Medicaid is a government-run program.
Now, I heard you say this gentleman that had his finger unfortunately bitten off, which is unfortunate.
Does he not realize that the program that he didn't want the government involved in is one he's probably going to use and did use to have that impact?
Well, you know, listen, why are the oldsters bailing on Obama faster than any other demographic?
Why have they afraid?
Why have the AARP lost all these members after the AARP came out in support of Obama reforms?
Because I would like to know how many that have left, and then I would like to compare that with the people that don't realize that it is a government program.
Yeah, but no, no, I think old people understand that they're in the government program of Medicare, but they understand that once you have Medicare for all, once everybody is in a Medicare-type program, then America goes the same way as Canada and Britain and other countries do, where old people get shafted by the government health care system.
Are we not?
And don't we believe that we are one of the greatest countries on the face of the earth?
So we have to be greater than Canada and greater than Great Britain, even.
I think you're basically saying, look, the Canadian health, Canada, let's not compare it with, say, Sudan.
Let's just take other first world government healthcare systems.
And that somehow the common feature of them all, which is that old people get shafted by them and old people get less care somehow when America does it for the first time, it'll work.
This is what people used to say about communism.
Oh, yeah, sure, it's gone.
It's gone off the rails in Russia and it's not worked in China.
And yeah, it led to a lot of corpses in Cambodia, but this time we're going to get it right.
That's not a very fair comparison to communism, but the thing that I'm trying to make the point is that a lot of these older people do not realize, and it is a shame that this is a government program, and at least we could try it.
I mean, if it doesn't work, it's not going to work.
But why make all these decisions that we don't even know yet?
Look, it's not difficult.
It's not difficult.
The common feature of all government healthcare systems is that you can only control costs by restricting care to the patients.
And the easiest demographic to restrict care to are the old-timers.
Here's a headline from a story from the Daily Telegraph in London today: Patients with terminal illnesses, quote, patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under a national health service scheme to help end their lives.
Leading doctors warned today.
Some patients are being wrongly judged as close to death.
They can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn, and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.
That's a literal death panel.
And as I said, that's not Sudan.
That's not Rwanda.
That's a first world health system.
The oldsters, the seniors, are always the first ones lined up for this, Kevin.
But thanks for your call, and we'll see.
That fingerless guy who got his finger reattached by Medicare or whatever.
Once Medicare is universalized so that everybody, so that fit 26-year-olds and fit 37-year-olds and fittish 43-year-olds are all covered by a Medicare-type program, then the seniors get stiffed.
And that's a large part of the reason why they're very present at all these protests.
A lot of them are certainly not Republicans or Conservatives or even Independents.
A lot of them are Democrats.
And if you look at the way Obama's numbers have fallen among Democrats, I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of that is like old people who realize what he's got these NHS, British-style, Canadian-style death panels lined up for them, and they figure that that is lifelong Democrats as they are.
The key to being a lifelong Democrat is lifelong.
And you don't want to, and their party loyalty does not extend to voting for the express checkout of Obamacare.
Mark Stein, in for rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Lots more straight ahead.
Mark Stein, in for rush on the EIB network.
You know, Kevin from Columbus was saying, well, look, you know, this is America.
It's not some ringy-dink and no-account basket case like Canada or Britain.
We can do socialized health care right.
Let me tell you why socialized healthcare is going to be a bigger disaster in America than anywhere else on the planet.
Because you've got a rare combination of factors here.
If you have, it's going to be more expensive than anywhere on the planet.
Now, if you look at if you look at the National Health Service in England, that's the third, I mentioned a couple of weeks ago when I was here, that's the third biggest employer on the face of the earth.
After the biggest is the Chinese Army, the second biggest is Indian National Railways, and the third biggest employer on the planet is the English National Health Service.
Now, you attempt to create a universal healthcare system for 300 million people, right away it's going to be more expensive.
It's never been attempted on that scale in a first world nation before.
But if you do it without torture reform, which obviously the Democrats don't want to do because they're the trial lawyers party, you're going to have the combination of government health care plus medical malpractice suits, and you are going to have the most expensive health care system ever devised.
If you die, if you're in the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal and they kill you, you'll get a couple of hundred bucks.
If they kill you south of the border, you'll get a couple of million dollars.
But if so, if you have a combination of government health care and medical malpractice suits, you will have the world's most expensive government health care system.
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