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Sept. 3, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 3, 2009, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yes, indeed.
America's anchor man is away today, and this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein, a refugee from government health care on uh three continents, I think, at the last count.
And proud to be the token foreigner among the right wing domestic terrorists, the Barack Obama website has been warning us uh about.
So bear that in uh bear that in mind.
Three hours of substitute level uh substitute host level excellence in broadcasting, straight ahead.
The great Walter E. Williams will be in tomorrow.
That's the enhanced substitute host level excellence in broadcasting.
And Monday we'll have a best of rush for Labor Day.
Uh and then Tuesday he's back with three hours of the uh real deal at premium uh strength.
Uh you m you may remember that uh Jill from Ithaca on uh yesterday's show said that um all of us right wing guys didn't really believe in all this stuff we spout.
Uh but we say it because we're in the pay of corporations, uh which is obviously true.
Uh rushes on the take from Halliburton and uh Whole Foods, because they're apparently a sinister right wing Death Corp, since their uh head honcho expressed some mild misgivings about uh Obamacare and the left has decided to boycott his arugula.
Uh I I we've got to we're gonna check in, by the way, on how the arugula boycott's uh going, because Daily Costs and Moveon.org and all the rest of them have said Ixnay on the arugula, we're off to Lardbuttburger, we're out of here, we're not eating this stuff anymore.
Uh we're shutting you down.
You can take your curly end dive and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Uh so if you've got any news on how uh the uh left arugula boycott is going, I'd be interested to hear it.
Like if you're at the Whole Foods Loading Bay, uh where the fair trade uh arugalers unloaded, and it's like Lee J. Corbyn on the waterfront down there, uh let me let me know.
Wa uh 1800-282-2882.
Uh anyhow, uh, you know, obviously Jill's point is that we're all in the pay of corporations.
Rush is in the pay of Halliburton.
And uh full disclosure, I'm in the pay of a feed store in uh Dead Moose, New Hampshire.
I get free millet for spouting this stuff.
Uh so bear that in mind.
Obviously, I don't, you know, I don't really believe it, but I get, you know, like thirty bucks a millet for for talking like this, so that's that's uh that's why I do it.
For the yeah, a little a little extra suet, too.
That's when I do the real crazy that's when I do the real crazy healthcare stuff.
I'm getting the millet and the suet.
So but basically for spewing all this right wing fodder, uh I'm paid off in fodder.
Uh after all, you know, as as as uh as Jill in Ithaca figured out, none of us could seriously believe.
I mean, what sentient being could seriously believe in the virtues of small government, uh individual liberty, and a self-reliant citizenry.
The only possible explanation is that we're all in the pay of sinister corporations.
Uh President Obama has had the worst month of his presidency.
Ratings-wise, uh no president in sixty years has slid this low so fast.
So when the going gets tough, the tough give yet another speech.
He's only given one hundred and eleven speeches on health care, and the more he speaks about it, the less Americans like the sound of it.
So what's he gonna do now?
Go on, guess.
Take a wild guess, take a wild guess.
He's giving another speech, uh, which is uh great news for Republican uh generic ballot numbers.
Uh the headline from the Washington Post, President to flesh out his vision in speech.
Uh I I think he'd be better off uh fleshing out his flesh and doing another one of those nude photo shoots for Vanity Fair where his perfectly sculpted pectorals emerge shimmering from the Hawaiian surf.
Uh you know, but what do I know?
He's decided he can turn it he can turn this thing around with one more speech, because he's the greatest orator since uh Socrates.
If you if you can imagine uh Socrates doing eight sets a night at open mic night at the soaring rhetoric lounge out on Route 103.
Uh once more onto the breach, uh he's given another speech.
Uh he's given this time he's giving an address to a joint session of Congress.
But don't worry, it'll be televised like they all are, so you won't miss any uh you won't miss anything.
Uh and he's going to, and he's gonna uh lay out this time, flesh out his vision, uh, because apparently that's that's what's uh been missing all this time.
And you'll be able to see it live in Primetime on television.
I saw something in TV guide about the first nightly talk show in Primetime starting this month.
Uh, And I thought it was a reference to the new Jay Leno show.
But apparently it's the all new Barack Obama uh health care pitch, nightly at nine Eastern, eight central for as long as this thing uh lasts.
Uh after the speech, they're going to be handing out uh study materials, inviting you to write an essay on what you can do to help the president make our lives better.
Oh no, wait, no, wait, that's that's his speech.
Sorry, I'm getting confused.
That's his speech uh to the grade schoolers.
Uh the st uh it's that they have the study material saying what you can do afterwards to help the uh president.
Uh but if you're an adult citizen, you don't have to do the written test after the Obama speech.
Yet, yet.
I mean, they may introduce it next uh next year.
Anyhow, the w the Washington Bose is extremely excited about uh this forthcoming address to a joint session of Congress to flesh out uh to flesh out the vision.
I don't I don't know.
Why is it that that lie I don't know, the flesh out the vision line it does it doesn't s does it rig right for some uh I don't know what it is.
It's sort of uh kind of it's odd.
It's the the Washington Post headline writers, fleshing out the vision.
It's I don't know what it is.
It it it conjures a vision.
It's a strange thing.
It's uh it reminds me of the Japanese Prime Minister's wife who uh who reve who has had a vision.
She revealed uh yesterday, I think it was that she had an out-of-body experience in which she went to the planet Venus and met Tom Cruise during a previous life in which he was apparently Japanese.
No el no Elvis, which is unusual.
This is in Japan.
Actually, I don't know.
She didn't it it wasn't clear to me whether the Japanese Prime Minister's wife, while she was on the planet Venus, went to a karaoke bar.
She might have run into Elvis there, but she just ran into Tom Cruise, apparently.
Anyway, if you get a flesh out of a vi a vision, the Japanese Prime Minister's wife's vision is way ahead so far of Obama's health care vision.
Uh but but uh the Washington Post story continues, uh quote Aid said Obama will use the speech to add more specifics to his vision.
Okay?
You got like this is like Martha Stewart now, isn't it?
It's like uh first take your vision.
Uh here's one I made earlier.
Uh and after you've uh baked that in the oven at 350 degrees, then add one and a half cups of specifics.
It's like the Martha it's the Martha Stewart Christmas book, uh where she explains how to make the uh what's it called?
The Coxcomb the Coxcomtopiary, which is this uh HR, HR uh from the look of A on HR's face, this does not feature in the HR household come Christmas.
The Coxcomb topiri, which is this thing, it looks like a it it starts out as this ugly misshapen thing that looks like a hobbit that's fallen into the trash compactor.
Uh, but then Martha gets to work on it, uh studying it, studying it with uh tiny pomegranates dusted with clear glitter.
And uh and uh I'm quoting from memory here, by the way, so don't try this at home.
I don't I don't want to hear any complaint.
But this is basically what Obama is doing.
He's taking his vision, which so far is this grotesque, misshapen hobbit-like creature that looks like it's fallen in the trash compactor, but he's going to take his vision and then stud it with little bits of uh uh sparkly tingly, glittery specifics uh here and there.
So so you'll you'll uh you'll all get uh to like it.
Uh as the Washington Post says he's gonna add more, add more specifics to uh his vision.
So it's gonna be uh Barack Obama and the uh actually one of the specifics, a Philadelphia Solact back in the uh back in the seventies, I think uh the Barack Obama and the specifics.
Uh like he sings uh Would you like to fly in my beautiful balloon?
And then the specifics go up, up and away in beautiful uh close harmony.
So that's what's gonna Barack Obama and the specifics will be taking a flower in his beautiful balloon uh up, up and away.
Look, he can do this all he wants.
He can give speeches, as he's evidently planning to every day until uh it's uh uh for the for the next four years.
But it's not a message issue, it's not a vision issue, it's not a specifics issue.
This is a substance issue, it's about the core substance.
The American people get this on a very primal visceral gut level, that this is a massive annexation by the Federal Government of something that's about as central to your life as it can be, and they don't want it.
And adding the specifics to it isn't gonna help.
All that's gonna do is turn your vague uh amorphous uh dislike about this thing into a specific, explicit loathing of it.
So just uh giving another classic Obama speech is not gonna do.
What else what else can he do?
As Hillary Clinton uh said last year, this this is the guy's qualification to be president.
He gave a great speech to the Democratic Convention.
Uh he gave so many great speeches, he put them on an iPod uh and presented it to Her Majesty the Queen at Buckingham Palace.
I'd be interested to know how often she plays that, by the way, because it's amazing how less special a gift of speeches by Barack Obama seems when he's given them every night of the week all over your TV screen.
Uh but that's that's his only solution now.
He's in trouble.
He's had the worst month of his presidency, but let's try one more speech.
Uh that'll do it.
Cue the specifics, flesh out the vision.
Uh meanwhile, out on out on the streets, it's turning ugly.
This is from the Los Angeles Times.
Man, man bites off man's finger at Obama health care rally.
Uh Ventura County Sheriff's Deputies were called to the intersection of Lynn and Hillcrest Road in Thousand Oaks near Los Angeles, according to TV station KTLA.
An estimated 100 supporters of health care reform affiliated with Moveon.org, no AstroTurf there, by the way.
This is the genuine thing.
Uh one hundred supporters of health care reform affiliated with move on.org had gathered as part of a nationwide array of local pre-Labor Day rallies to attract attention in support of Obama's reform plans.
Instead, the rally attracted the attention of a group of anti-health care reform protesters across the streets.
Police reports say one pro-protester moved into the group of anti-protesters.
Some angry words were exchanged.
The pro-protester punched an anti-protester, a witness told KTLA.
A scuffle ensued, and the pro-protester had a finger bitten off.
The injured man walked to Los Robles Hospital with his finger to receive health care.
By the way, he's very lucky because uh the waiting time for uh for finger reattachment surgery in Scotland now uh is up to uh eighteen months.
So he'd have been waiting a lot longer uh if this had happened to him under a socialized health care system.
But you know, if this can't this is how serious things are getting now.
If people are now biting each other's fingers off at health care rallies, look at the trillions of dollars that is going to add to the costs of health care over the years.
So when we talk about how can we lower the costs of health care, it seems pretty clear that one way to lower the cost of health care would be for Obama to forget about his health care reform, which is now driving Americans to bite off each other's uh fingers uh all over California.
And the last thing California needs is uh for its uh its massive deficits uh to be blown even further into the stratosphere by all this emergency finger reattachment surgery.
Uh so we're gonna talk what can Obama do to turn his to turn his speech around.
Are you interested in him fleshing out his vision?
Are you interested in seeing his specifics?
When he's fleshed out his vision in the flesh, do you want to see those specifics in the flesh?
That's what we're gonna talk about.
1-800-282-2882 as Obama embarks on his health care comeback.
Mark Stein Inforush on the EIB network.
Mark Stein on the EIB network, in for infrarush, getting excited, counting down till Obama's next primetime health care speech, because if there's one thing you can always use, it's another prime time uh health care speech.
Uh Politico reports that Obama has held uh four primetime news conferences, far more than his recent predecessors at this point in their presidencies, along with his speech before Congress in February.
And the networks are getting a bit antsy about this.
Because, you know, this is a great time to be in uh in in the TV network business as it is, and they're losing money every time.
They they can't show uh uh their advertising while the president's yakking away.
Uh so they lose money every time he takes an hour of airtime, significant amounts of money, uh every time he takes an uh an hour of airtime to talk yet again about uh uh health care.
Uh Paul Bagala, Paul Bagala, the um the great attack dog of CNN, Democratic Party attack dog, says, if the networks don't carry it, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It's not like they're gonna be bumping Masterpiece Theater.
What are they gonna run?
Bikini models eating worms in some kind of contest.
This is what this is what Obama's speeches are depriving you of.
Right now, uh bikini models eating worms in some kind of contest would be doing a lot better than another uh speech from Obama on health care.
Uh it's the third time since June uh that Obama has tried to sell his health care to the American people doing prime time, and uh and the ratings are dying.
He's dying out there in the ratings.
This is the thing.
By the way, uh the president is supposed to be this celebrity president, our first celebrity president, Mr. Charisma, Mr. Personality.
No genuine celebrity makes himself this cheap by going on air all the time uh uh at the drop of a hat.
You know, how often do you see uh I I don't agree with Barbara Streisand on much, for example, but one thing I think she's got right is that she's not out there giving interviews, doing shows uh and and uh hogging up TV airtime all the time for no good reason.
And this idea that uh that the Obama personality now can save the health care plan, I think is absolute uh is absolute nonsense.
Uh uh people say, well, look, people like Obama as a uh personally, in a personal sense they still like President Obama.
But the more he explicitly uh links these unpopular policies to him, uh the more that approval uh rating is gonna nosedive.
There's simply uh he he simply is not good enough to be interesting enough.
He's not yet uh been able to come up with like the five words, a five-word rationale for this massive government annexation of one-sixth of the economy.
Uh and if he hasn't managed to do it in the previous 111 speeches he's given on this subject, what is the likelihood uh of him being able to do it in this uh joint address to Congress uh or uh in his speech to American grade schoolers.
I'm not sure, by the way, in the grade school thing, whether he's uh actually uh whether he's gonna be talking about health care.
It will be interesting if he decides to uh inflict uh that on them uh uh for his appearance in classrooms.
By the way, we we mentioned this yesterday, and I was thinking about it.
My real objection to this uh speech to school children is got nothing to do with the content of the speech.
Uh and it's not even really to do with these uh what I think are uh uh unseemly and improper uh so-called study lessons and study materials that teachers are gonna be inflicting on kids afterwards.
And by the way, I would encourage all uh grade schools and all parents who want to opt out of this thing to do so because the idea that this is the speech will be just some bland bit of fluff telling kids to study hard, uh that is not education.
I'm sorry, uh, but there's a there's enough opportunities in the average American grade school curriculum to avoid education as it is.
They don't need to have an hour taken up by the president uh uh spouting bland generalities.
I'd rather they d they they spent that hour doing a bit of uh history, uh doing a bit of English, uh doing a bit of science, doing anything other than just listening uh to some platitudinous drivel from the president.
But the fact is when you beam the platinus platitudinous drivel in by the big personality president, uh you are doing something which I don't think is proper in in a uh citizen republic, you're conflating uh the the head of state with the state.
And that is not uh uh the role of the American president.
This idea that you can't get away from Obama's image and Obama's personality.
Anyone who's traveled in, you know, various third world dumps uh knows one thing you're always aware of is the uh omnipresence of the president for life.
He's there everywhere, even in relatively civilized uh places.
Like if you go through Jordan, everywhere in Jordan, you see these huge photographs of King Abdallah beaming down on you everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
Uh I was very struck a couple of weeks after Saddam fell, uh uh in uh in Iraq, I was driving around western and northern Iraq, uh, and I made a point in every town I visited of uh dropping by the local school.
They had these like uh uh Iraq was basically invented by the British and they had these little nineteen fifties British school signs when you're approaching a school showing like an English schoolboy and English schoolgirl crossing the road in in uh 1950s English school uniforms.
And I I stopped at all these schools, and and uh Saddam had just fallen, and what you noticed in every room was the faded paint on the wall where the portraits of Saddam had all been taken down.
Uh personality cults and personality leaders do not belong in grade schools in a democratic republic.
It's inappropriate.
1-800-282-2882, lots more straight ahead.
Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show, and Walter E. Williams will be here tomorrow.
Yep, you may remember back at the uh at the top of the hour, I was talking about this story from the LA Times about a health care rally at Thousand Oaks uh near Los Angeles, at which a pro-health care reform protester punched an anti-Obamacare protester.
Uh scuffle ensued, and the uh pro-Obamacare protester then had a finger uh bitten off.
We now have on the line uh Scott uh who called us from Thousand Oaks, California.
And Scott, uh apparently you were at this rally.
Uh yes, hello?
Hey, you're on the air, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show, Scott.
Okay.
Yeah, I was I was right there.
I was right there when it happened.
And and uh and and how did this scut uh scuffle uh uh develop?
Well, we were on our side, which was the um right next to the Oaks Mall.
They were on the adjacent corner.
Um we were standing on the uh on the cur on the sidewalk, and um the gentleman from the other side from the Obama side came across the street over the island, which is but anyway, um, and approached us, and while standing in the street, which has through traffic, um, shouted at us and said, Are you for a public option?
Are you against a public option?
And we said no.
Them's fighting words, yeah.
Right.
He started it, yeah, exactly.
And then and then we all said no, and then he walked directly to the elderly man who, you know, um, without taking anything away from him, he was, you know, he wasn't as you know.
He wasn't he was, you know, uh wasn't he he he he kind of targeted him.
He went to that the elderly man and um and he he went up to him, he says, Why are you not for the public option?
Oh, right.
And and and the elderly man said that um that uh I I don't want the government's involvement in anything, and uh essentially, and then the um gentleman said and got even closer, kind of like in uh a baseball coach gets to an ump, you know, um, right up in his face and says, You're an idiot.
So he aggressed him.
He got real close you know, right up to him, you know, well within three feet.
And he was standing, I want to make this clear, he was standing in uh uh in the street while we were on the sidewalk, right?
He aggressed and and aggressed him, got away.
Right, and he and he he threw the first punch, did he?
Well, it it was it was he was pointing at him and he got up right in his face, and it was very threatening because he he across the street in an unpredictable way.
He was um it it was that's actually the best way to do it in Los Angeles in my experience.
But uh yeah, so he got in his face and uh and uh and uh and how did the uh the old guy respond?
Well, the old guy, the this gentleman, the elderly gentleman was uh trying to kind of um defend himself, and it wasn't I would call it a defensive strike because this gentleman there was no it was very unpredictable the way he approached him.
And so um and the the Obama gentleman grabbed him and pulled him into the street, okay.
And then uh the the scuffle started, and Um and just about as quick as it started, it basically ended, and the old man grabbed his hand and and blood started coming.
And I walked up to him and he and he's like, he bit my finger off.
And um he we got him up to the wheel.
So just say who who who lost the finger?
The elderly gentleman.
So it was the LA Times misreported it in characteristic fashion by saying that in fact it was the pro-Obama guy who'd lost his finger, and it turned out it was the in fact it was the pro-Obama guy who uh who bit off the anti Obama guy's finger.
The anti Obama guy lost the finger.
Okay.
Okay.
Now now he he he he presumably lost his finger and went off to hospital.
Uh what happened to you?
I mean, to walk off to get to his car.
And he was there on his own.
And I and at the time, I mean, I was so stunned by what had happened, I had just seen a man's finger who had been bitten off, and I was trying to kind of take it in and democracy in action.
And so I I I kind of put it together I to myself and I thought, well, his finger is gone.
It wasn't sort of just sort of bitten off at the end.
There was a stump, and I knew that his finger was either somewhere around, or the only other option would have been that this guy had I I I hate to think, okay, so anyway, I look around and I found his fing his f the end of his finger about um ten feet away from where this this fight had occurred over on the side by this by uh on the side of the road and I picked it up.
So it it was in the highway, it was actually on the street in the It was on the street there with the vehicular traffic.
Right.
And so I um picked up the finger and the guy that was with us in our group, uh, we called and the you know, nine one one and I said, you know, I don't know where the gentleman went because we ran after where the where the parking area where he might have parked and we couldn't find So you were like looking for him.
You uh you had his finger and you were like running after trying to figure out where the fingerless guy had gone.
Yes, I was.
I and so we we decided, you know, after talking to the the you know the nine one one, she said to well, you know, Los Robles is the closest hospital.
Um so we we hurried and uh I wrapped it up in a napkin, we drove it over there, we gave him his finger back.
Um You found him when you got to this hospital and you went to like check in and they said, Look, you said we got a finger here.
We he was right there in the emergency.
When we walked through the sliding doors, we could see right into where they were taking care of him, and we um and we just ran the finger, ran to him right away, and they immediately put it um wrapped it up in uh in a cold pack to keep it cold and they were washing his finger off.
And um they you you uh you you actually did him an enormous favor there.
But they you you've actually identified the central part of the story that the LA Times got wrong.
It was not the pro-Obama guy who lost his finger, it was the anti-Obama guy who lost his finger.
Uh and thanks to your efforts, you prevented it from being run over by a Los Angeles taxi cab or whatever, and got it out of the road and uh uh used uh i identified the nearest hospital, went there and basically said, uh has anyone here lost a finger?
And um raise your hand and uh and and uh basically restored the f restored the finger to him.
Yeah, gave the finger.
I I haven't spoken with him and I haven't heard, but when I got back to we went after we gave him his finger, we went back to the the area because I thought, well let's see if we can't find this guy.
Believe it or not, when we were leaving, we had to turn right and go right by all the Obama folks to go to the hospital.
And I saw the gentleman uh the guy, I shouldn't uh You saw the the biter, the bike and he hadn't left yet.
And right when and and the police hadn't quite gotten there.
And I think that as the police got there that he because when we got back, um I talked to the police and uh the uh that were there taking statements and things and and we I went with one of the police officers and walked through the Obama uh group uh the pro health care government health care group looking for them looking for him and we couldn't because you wanted you you wanted to confront him over biting the finger off did you well we wanted to to catch him
Right, right, right.
Oh, right.
You wanted to actually report him to the authorities, yeah.
He targeted this gentleman.
He didn't target me or one of the other guys that's bigger than me.
There were two other guys that were taller.
He targeted the gray-haired gentleman that had glasses on, and we were all standing on the sidewalk, not in the street.
This guy came up in the street in an unpredictable way, aggressively, and went to the smallest and- picked on the the smallest oldest most bespectacled guy and uh and bit his finger off and uh this is and Scott did a good deed here.
Scott found the finger.
He thought this finger's got to be around here somewhere.
He went looking in the street.
He found the finger before Governor Schwarzenegger's motorcade had run over it or whatever.
And he took it to the nearest hospital and gave the guy the finger.
And he got it back and saved, presumably saved the California health system a fortune in, or Medicare, I guess, because this was an elderly gentleman, Medicare, a Fortune...
in uh finger uh reconstruction surgery and and they simply reattached the old finger.
But this is what it's come to, folks these Obamacare guys, next time you're told next time Nancy Pelosi tells you it's uh that there's Nazis, there's Nazis out there at these health care reform uh meetings we're not the guys biting the fingers off.
This is an Obamacare supporter who chewed off he sought out the most vulnerable member of society and bit off his finger.
Uh thanks to Scott from Thousand Oaks California we're gonna we're gonna stay on top of this.
We're gonna stay on top of this whole finger story uh and uh and see what and see what develops out of it.
But right now right now this is Obamacare basically giving you the finger and not just giving you the finger but biting it off.
Uh so things are getting out of control at these healthcare rallies.
Lots more straight ahead on the Rush Limbaugh show from the EIB network.
Mark Stein on the Rush uh Limbaugh show Rush will be back uh live on tape on Monday for a best of rush Labor Day show and then uh live in the flesh fleshing out his vision very fleshily on uh Tuesday uh let's go to uh Kevin in Columbus Ohio uh Kevin uh you you wanted to respond to the uh big finger story out in the Thousand Oaks where they're chewing each other's fingers off.
Kevin you're on you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show uh you oh good good thanks Kevin.
What's what what point did you want to make the the only thing that keeps bothering me through this whole debate about this health care reform and whatever you want to call it is now a lot of these elderly people for some odd reason don't seem to realize that their Medicare and Medicaid is a government run program.
Now, I heard you say this gentleman that had his finger, unfortunately, bitten off, which is unfortunate.
Does he not realize that the program that he didn't want the government involved in is one he's probably going to use and did use to have that finger attached?
Well, you know, listen, why are the oldsters bailing on Obama faster than any other demographic?
Because they're afraid.
Why have the AARP lost all these members after the AARP came out in support of Obama reforms?
Because I would like to know how many that have left.
And then I would like to compare that with the people that don't realize that it is a government program.
Yeah, but no, no, I think I think old people understand that they're in the government program of Medicare.
But they understand that once you have Medicare for all, once everybody is in a Medicare type program, then America goes the same way as Canada and Britain and other countries do, where America.
old people get shafted by the government health care system.
Are we not and don't we believe that we are one of the greatest countries on the face of the earth so we have to be greater than Canada and greater than Great Britain even so I think because it's gonna work for them doesn't no, no, no.
Let me tell you you you're basically saying, look, the Canadian health uh c Canada, let's not compare it with, say, Sudan.
Let's just take other first world government health care systems.
And that somehow uh what the common feature of them all, which is that old people get shafted by them and old people get less care, uh somehow in uh one when America does it for the first time it'll work.
This is what people used to say about communism.
Oh yes, sure, it's gone it's gone off the rails in Russia and it's not worked in China and uh yeah it led to a lot of corpses in uh in Cambodia but this time we're gonna get it right.
You know that's not a very fair comparison to communism but the thing that I'm I'm trying to make the point is that a lot of these older people do not realize and it is a shame that this is a government program and at least we could try it.
I mean if it doesn't work it's not going to work but why uh make all these decisions and we don't even know yet it's not it's not it's not difficult.
It's not difficult.
The common feature uh of all government health care systems uh is that you you can only control costs by uh by restricting care to the patients and the easiest uh demographic to restrict care to are the old timers.
Here's a headline from here's a story from the Daily Telegraph in London today.
Patients with terminal illnesses quote patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under a national health service scheme to help end their lives uh leading doctors warn today.
Some patients are being wrongly judged as close to death they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.
That's a literal death panel.
And as I said that's not Sudan that's not Rwanda that's a first world health system.
The oldsters, the seniors are always the first ones lined up for this Kevin.
But thanks thanks for your call and we'll see you.
That fingerless guy who got his finger reattached uh by Medicare or or or whatever uh when once the once Medicare is universalized so that everybody so that fit twenty-six year olds and fit 37-year-olds and fittish 43 year olds uh are all covered by a Medicare type program then the seniors get stiffed and that's uh that's a large part of the reason why they're very present at all these protests.
A lot of them are certainly not Republicans or conservatives or even independents.
A lot of them are Democrat Democrats.
And if you look at uh the way Obama's numbers have fallen among Democrats, I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of that is like old people who realize what he's got these uh NHS British style Canadian style death panels lined up for them and they figure that that is uh d lifelong Democrats as they are the key to being a lifelong Democrat is lifelong uh and you don't want to and and and their party loyalty does not extend to uh i i i uh voting for the express checkout of Obamacare.
Uh Mark Stein in for rush on the Rush Limbaugh show lots more straight out.
Mark Stein in for us on the EIB network.
Uh you know Kevin from Columbus was uh saying well look you know we're well this is America it's not some ringy dink and uh no account basket case like Canada or Britain.
We can do socialized health care right.
Let me tell you why socialized health care uh is going to be a bigger disaster in America than anywhere else on the planet because you've got a rare combination of factors here.
If you have it's gonna be more expensive than anywhere on the planet.
Now if you look at uh if you look at the National Health Service in England, that's the third I mentioned a couple of weeks ago when I was here that's the third biggest employer on the face of the earth after the the biggest is the Chinese Army, the second biggest is Indian National Railways and the third biggest employer on the planet is the English National Health Service.
Now you attempt to create a a universal health care system for three hundred million people, right away it's gonna be more expensive.
It's never been attempted on that scale in a first world nation before but if you do without tort reform, which uh obviously the Democrats don't want to do because they're the trial lawyers party, you're gonna have the combination of government health care plus medical malpractice suits and you are going to have the most expensive uh healthcare system ever devised.
If you die, if you're in the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal and they kill you, you'll get a couple of hundred bucks.
If they kill you south of the border, you'll get a couple of million dollars.
Uh but if so, if you have a combination of government health care and medical malpractice suits, you will have the world's most expensive uh government health care system.
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