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Aug. 31, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 31, 2009, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
That conservative tide of 1994, how we remember it.
With what fondness we remember that.
And maybe with sufficient fondness that we can recreate it in 2010.
Hey, everybody, I am Mark Davis.
I'm here today and tomorrow for the Rush Limbaugh Golf Outing Week.
We get spend time together today and tomorrow, Mark Stein on Wednesday and Thursday.
And let's all gather around and have a really good time on Friday because a genuine hero to me, Dr. Walter Williams, will be in the House on Friday.
But for now, if we haven't met before during past substitute outings, Mark Davis from Proud Rush Limbaugh Affiliate, WBAP, Dallas, Fort Worth.
Great to be with you.
What a weekend.
What a weekend.
When a few weeks ago, the folks, the behind-the-scenes folk at the EIB called and asked about availability for this particular week, what occurred to me at that time was, wow, that'll be around the end of the August recess.
And probably by then, there will have been an interesting and deliciously punitive August for those seeking to return home and try to convince their constituencies of the wisdom of Obamacare.
Well, that is exactly what has happened.
And so today, why don't we take a look as every member of Congress prepares pretty well next week to get back to work?
What kind of a job have we done?
Has it been effective?
Is this just a one-month phenomenon?
Will we grow weary of this fight as much of the country did, the actual war on terror?
Is this something that is more in your face than the war on terror?
I mean, 9-11 was very real, but we coped too well.
We dusted ourselves off.
We started buying cars and refrigerators.
And as Daryl Worley Song wrote, we have forgotten.
Many of us have.
And so even something as shockingly clear and as brutally dominating as 9-11 in the news and in our lives is something that sort of ran its course and went away for many, for many.
You'll never be bored studying what keeps America worked up, what gets us worked up, what generates our indignation, what maintains our indignation.
You know, 9-11 lasted for about six months.
And I've always loved the analysis that, well, you know, President Bush united the country.
United the country.
And then a year later, he had squandered that unity.
What?
By doing what?
Continuing to actually fight the war that almost everybody was on board for.
President Bush didn't change.
America changed.
President Bush didn't change his compass or lose his spine.
The country did.
So if America was unified in October, just to pick a month of 2001, and not so unified in the fall of 2003, President Bush was not the changing factor in that.
A war-weary country was.
The battle over health care, obviously, is a political battle.
It is something, though, that for some reason, we were all talking about this.
I think last time that I was here for Rush, it was like, okay, this is fun.
How long is this going to last?
Surely conservatives will get bored or, you know, got work and kids and school starting and we'll just get rolled again and again and again like we did for the for the stimulus.
And that hasn't happened.
That hasn't happened.
It's because the imagery of our countrymen being incinerated on 9-11, I can see how we want to scrub our brains of that.
It takes energy.
It takes focus.
It takes a lot to keep those images fresh.
And a lot of people just don't want to do that.
In fact, in a minute, I've got a story or two about the politicization of 9-11.
What should that day be for?
I mean, obviously, it's less than two weeks away.
Here comes the eighth anniversary.
What should that day be for?
What should we be all about on that day?
I have my answers.
This White House has different answers.
Imagine that.
I'll share them.
But as we have gone to return normalcy to our lives, and post-9-11, it was like we've got to, again, nothing was asked of us.
We were going to fight a war, but it was, you know, go buy a car or the terrorists win, you know, return to your normal lives just to show Al-Qaeda that we will not be shaken to the core.
And I understand that.
I understand that.
But when you come at people with healthcare, when you come at people with something that is life and death for them, even after 9-11, most of us did not expect a hijacked plane to fly into our homes, our office buildings, our schools, whatever.
9-11, as vivid as it was, ultimately was still fairly theoretical.
It was an attack on our country, an attack on our homeland.
But by theoretical, I mean something that we properly recoiled at, something that we were properly repulsed by, something which properly motivated us, at least temporarily.
But again, it didn't rise to something that actually threatened us.
Most Americans did not expect to die from an al-Qaeda attack even after 9-11.
This is different.
Most Americans take a look at a healthcare system that they like, warts and all, and they don't want to cash it in for a government-run alternative.
They don't want to.
You mess with that, and you give people energy that turns them all into energizer bunnies by comparison to some past political battles.
And there's been a lot of scholarship that's been devoted to this.
I've had people ask: you know, what is it about this that has everybody ready to fight and not ready to grow weary, which is the usual thing that happens in this very short attention span nation of ours?
And people, I love when they point to talk radio.
They look at shows, you know, national shows like Rush's, local shows like mine, and a lot of other people doing what we're doing for a living.
They say, listen, I love getting credit for stuff, but I can't take it here.
I mean, it's not talk radio by itself, please.
If talk radio by itself could engender enormous waves of public sentiment, how did Bill Clinton get elected twice during the Limbaugh era?
How did Obama get elected at all?
How did the stimulus happen?
If just the magical Pied Piper force of talk radio can bring about whatever conservative goal we have, I dream of that kind of power.
Nope.
The difference is you.
The difference is we found something.
And those of us who host shows for a living, we're sort of walking back through our lives saying, boy, wish we had this going for us on illegal immigration.
Wish I had this going for us for the bailouts.
Wish we had this going for us in the elections of 1992 and 96 and 2008.
But no, no, it didn't work out those times.
No, this is the stars aligning in a really nicely magical way.
Sure, talk radio is making points.
Many of them you're not going to find in the mainstream media, but that's always the case.
What we have found here is an issue in healthcare that resonates with people unlike anything else.
Because this is life and death for people.
Immigration, sure, it's important.
I mean, you know, the war on terror, hello, of course it's important.
But again, even that's not the kind of thing that captures the mind and heart of so many people in so many walks of life.
So that's the nature of the beast here.
As the August recess winds down, let's talk a little bit today about how it's all gone and what do you think happens when all these folks roll back into their rarefied air underneath the Capitol Dome and their heads filled with things that have happened at the various town meetings.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Even when Rush isn't here, some things remain a constant.
And that's the phone number, 1-800-282-2882.
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Again, I'm Mark Davis.
When they pick up the phone, say, hey, let me at Mark.
Now, here's some of the other things that we'll do today, many of them under my control.
Some of them may be brought up by you.
It's kind of a perpetual open line Friday whenever I'm around here.
I hope that's a good thing.
Dick Cheney on Fox News Sunday yesterday.
Sheer magnificence.
This is the sight and the sound of someone who is serious about protecting this country.
Now, as a segue into some of the Kennedy talk that we need to do today, I mean, the funeral was Saturday.
It's the first Rush Limbaugh show back.
I have a feeling he'd be spending a little bit of time on it, a little, maybe more.
The subject has come up when a political death brings into such sharp focus some of our political differences, because there's been so much that's been made of the Kennedy legacy.
We'll certainly talk about some of that today because I look at the Kennedy funeral the same way I did the occasion of his passing through three different turnstiles.
One is the one of just basic human decency, to hope that he is at peace with his maker, to lift up his friends, family, and loved ones in prayer on the occasion of his death.
That one we can all share.
The second one is a turnstile of history, where people, despite their political differences, take a look at a legacy and just go, wow, I mean, this family, JFK, Bobby, Ted, wow, that's a lot of power.
That's a lot of elections won.
That's a lot of influence wielded.
And that's a lot of tragedy endured.
So, you know, there's just no other story like it.
But those decades of service, to what end?
I want to make a list today.
Maybe, and please help me do it because I think it helps to come to some clarity on the Kennedy legacy.
I was listening.
First of all, President Obama had a magnificent eulogy at the funeral.
His comments the morning after when everybody awoke and realized that Senator Kennedy had passed, there was the usual paragraphs about what Senator Kennedy had done for the country.
And it involved civil rights.
It involved things like health and education.
Now, civil rights in the 60s, I'm with you.
I mean, please, this was a country that was in need of a Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I'm good with that.
Who's not?
You know?
But the American left got so nutty and Ted Kennedy was driving the bus that the American left is wrong on civil rights now, doing things like advocating the continuation of the racism that is affirmative action, siding with race preferences and a justice in Sonia Sotomayor, who craves them.
I mean, liberals are no longer right on civil rights for crying out loud.
So the rest of the legacy on things like health and education, well, who doesn't love health and education?
But I'll tell you what I don't love about health and education, and that is creating an enormous expansionist collectivist government toward the ends of improving health and education.
And so much is made.
Well, you know, Senator Kennedy would reach across the aisle.
Well, sure, to grasp the hand of Republicans already reaching out toward him.
All these wonderful collaborations.
If it was an immigration collaboration, it was with Republicans who are soft on the borders.
If it was No Child Left Behind, and please, God bless President Bush for so many reasons, proud to have voted for him twice.
Thanks for those seven years of keeping us safe, which no one seems to care about anymore.
But No Child Left Behind is a big federal education program when there should be no such thing as a big federal education program.
Our education should be none of the federal government's business.
So you can wrap yourself in the goodwill of, well, it was about health.
It was about education.
Well, sorry, no sale for those of us who believe that health and education issues, that these interests are better served with the federal government butting out and with states and individuals taking care of themselves.
So other than the civil rights battles of the 60s, can you please give me anything else from the Kennedy legacy?
I mean, the big parts of the Kennedy legacy that we've all come to an agreement that he was right about.
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Now, to connect these, I'm going to take the break here.
But on the occasion of Senator Kennedy's passing, in the conversation on Fox News Sunday where Chris Wallace went out to Jackson Hole, Wyoming, to speak with former Vice President Cheney, the subject arises of: is everybody equally serious about protecting this country?
And the question even goes to: does everybody equally love the country?
I will retroactively give President John F. Kennedy credit for loving the country as much as I do.
Even go that far with Bobby, too.
The modern incarnation of the left.
And I really do love all people.
And I wouldn't necessarily say this of a lot of liberal friends that I have.
I'll bet they probably love the country as much as I do.
But when you examine the slandering of our troops, when you examine the attempt to derail a war effort that's underway, when you examine the savaging of people for adhering to the precepts that our founding fathers brought forward, that's not love of America.
That's not love of what America is or love of what it has been, with a military that's been a force for good around the world, with a constitution that set up a magnificent scheme of strong but limited government.
The left doesn't love those things.
They're seeking to change those things and reshape the country into this neo-socialist European model.
What they love about America is what they think they can turn it into.
So we got a bunch to talk about.
So let's do it.
And agree or disagree, please bring it.
Glad to have you.
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It is the Monday, August 31st Rush Limbaugh Show.
Rush doing the golf outing.
And again, you and I are together today and tomorrow.
And Mark Stein on Wednesday and Thursday, and Walter Williams on Friday.
Very glad to have today and tomorrow to spend with you.
Let's do some phone calls and some other stories working their way through the news.
Stuff from the weekend is always welcome.
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Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh.
Back in a moment on the Queen.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show for Monday, first day of the work week, but last day of August 2009.
And what an August it has been.
I'm Mark Davis filling in today and tomorrow.
And 1-800-282-2882, let's do the following.
Let me give you just a couple of other nuggets once we hit the bottom of the hour rather than have to give short shrift to a caller.
I mentioned about the decision to politicize 9-11.
And it's kind of funny because it's always intriguing to get to the point where both sides accuse each other of the same thing.
I've been accused of politicizing 9-11 in suggesting that one party is more serious than the other in keeping us safe thereafter.
I don't say that in order to get more Republicans elected.
I say that to prevent terrorism.
Excuse me.
And if there's anybody that has a track record of doing things that have prevented more attacks, it was the Republican administration of President Bush.
And when you take a look at the Democrat administration of President Obama and its softness on these issues, the wish to sit down with Mint T, with Ahmadinejad, the derision and slander of a war effort that was in progress with our troops in the field.
I'm sorry.
If a Republican engaged in that, I would lament it.
The occasional Democrat like Joe Lieberman, who stepped forward to be serious about national security, I always praised it.
It's not about politics.
It's about what you say and what you do.
Well, here comes the eighth anniversary of 9-11, and it is a holiday.
It's kind of funny.
Locally, firefighters will get the day off because they got rooked out of a day at Christmas or something like that.
That certainly seems proper.
But here's where I'm headed here, and I'll be able to start it and then I'll finish it on the other side.
It is America's first officially designated National Day of Service and Remembrance.
All right.
Remembrance, of course, but what exactly will you be remembering?
And service?
To what exactly?
A magnificent New York Daily News editorial says: How must this day unfold?
With reverence unsullied by politics or commerce and with memory focused on the barbarity visited upon the United States.
I'll have a little more on where they're going with this in just a moment.
So do stick around.
Mark Davis filling in for Rush on the EIB network.
Well, I was going to say, well, here's the funny thing.
I'm looking at the 2814.
Is my clock different?
Is there something goofy going on there?
No.
They pranked the fill-in guy.
They pranked the fill-in guy.
Oh, God.
God, I'm glad that wasn't me.
I let the record show not me.
I do this for a living.
All right, listen.
That's great.
Actually, I'll take those 20 seconds.
Take those 20 seconds gladly if I could regather my composure after the near heart attack.
There are ways to remember 9-11 and ways not to remember 9-11.
One of the ways not to do it is to take it and turn it into a ball that you run with with the goal of bringing about ancillary things of a political nature that are unrelated.
That's where I'm going.
And now we're done with a half hour on the Rush Livbaw Show.
And we bring you good tidings from Texas.
As summer turns to fall, we're thrilled around here that the daily highs are no longer measured in triple digits.
So thrilled about that.
Everybody back in school and ready for some football.
Yes, indeed.
But we're shocked and stunned and disoriented here in North Texas because the Cowboys are in preseason.
And I assume that the nation is totally agog about our video screen controversy about punts hitting the video screen.
Maybe in the third hour.
Okay, maybe not.
Anyway, though, but the Texas Rangers are actually still playing games that mean something.
Now, if you're up in New York or if you're in Los Angeles or even in various other places that have had some recent baseball success, you know what this is like, but it is downright weird around here.
Anyway, all right, to finish the point about the New York Daily News editorial about keeping faith with 9-11, don't have these official observances that obscure the day's true meaning.
What we have, the concept of making service a hallmark of 9-11 anniversaries was championed by an organization called My Good Deed, an organization founded by family and friends of people killed in the attacks.
So far, so good.
The New York Daily News editorial writes, the group's mission statement calls for honoring the victims of 9-11 and those who rose to service in response to the attacks by encouraging good deeds and various volunteer activities.
In this way, we hope to create a lasting and forward-looking legacy, annually rekindling the spirit of service, tolerance, and compassion that unified America and the world in the immediate aftermath of 9-11.
This is what their statement there says at My Good Deed.
Instantly, alarms are going off in my head because those three terms that they use are so dependent on what you mean by them.
Service toward what end?
Tolerance of exactly what?
Compassion.
Person to person, or the peculiar kind of compassion that can only come through the conduit of government.
When I had this webpage up at the New York Daily News, the Daily News is an adventure because one of the side links was a Mike Lupica column.
And I've really enjoyed Mike and his coverage of various things sporting related.
Not so much this.
Ted Kennedy, the headline from Mike Lupica, Ted Kennedy spent his life looking out for others.
Really?
Well, I know I could make a very easy chapaquitic reference here.
I will restrain myself.
But when the definition of looking out for others is creating a labyrinthine maze of expansionist collectivist government, that's not looking out for others.
I can make you a government that will look out for every molecule of your life, but its cost and its intrusiveness will make it not worth the deal.
So that headline right there is emblematic of the problem of so much of the current mindset.
Now, maybe the Obama administration's done us a big favor here and given us the level of audacity, to steal that term back, that makes even the sleepyheads realize the risks of when government runs everything, that maybe there is such a thing as too much government.
I think the Obama folks and maybe some of their voters believed that 2008 was some clarion call that we want enormous government.
Well, you know, something about the last four weeks tells me that maybe that wasn't the meaning of the 2008 election.
But the meaning of 9-11, returning to the Daily News editorial.
To reclaim the unity of purpose that gripped the nation when anger and grief were strong and resolve even stronger would be wondrous.
If a burst of selflessness does the trick, count us in.
But there are dangers.
Acts of kindness are easily distorted into propaganda, issues advocacy, and attempts to redefine 9-11 for political purposes.
This cheapening has already happened and in the most inappropriate place.
The White House.
The Obama administration supports creating clean energy jobs in cities through a campaign called Green the Block, started by the groups Green for All and the Hip Hop Caucus.
I know that's the first place I go to for sanity on the issues is the hip-hop caucus.
Yeah, definitely need to know what Flo Rida thinks about tax policy.
Anyway, after cabinet officials met with leaders of the organization in the West Wing, AIDS posted a video and a statement on the White House blog.
Van Jones, an Obama environmental advisor, said 9-11 would be an opportunity to, in his words, connect, to find other people in your peer group who are also passionate about repowering America, but also greening up America and cleaning up America.
And the Reverend Lenno, head of the hip-hop caucus, said the first milestone for Green the Block will be on our National Day of Service, September 11th, where we will organize the Green the Block service events around the country in coordination with the president's initiative, United We Serve.
No.
Wrong.
Entirely wrong.
9-11 is not about green jobs or health care or bank bailouts or about the ideologies and egos of celebrities who are planning concerts and other performances to them hands off.
And remembrance must never be forgotten.
It would be sacrilege to smother 3,000 murders under gauzy and fleeting good feelings, a gross betrayal to gloss the evil that targeted and still targets America.
New York Daily News editorial called from Sunday, called Keep Faith with 9-11.
Official observances must not obscure the day's true meaning.
Now, listen, if you want to get out there and have green jobs and green this and green that, go do it.
See how it flies.
Please, that's fine.
That's part of the political debate.
But the hijacking of 9-11 for it, and pardon that verb, that's not good.
Let's get a call on for our first break.
And then seriously, lots and lots of calls ready to roll.
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Let's head down to the Tampa Bay area in the sunshine state of Florida.
And Pat, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis filling in.
It's a pleasure to have you.
Hello.
Thank you.
I've been a pretty good listener pretty often.
And I'm confused about the difference, what public option actually means, because I thought it was synonymous with government control.
Well, you'd be right.
We're talking about removing the public option.
And, you know, of course, the whole thing is unconstitutional, but nobody seems to care.
Well, in its strictest sense, the public option, which I much prefer to call the government option, would be a government providing of health care that is out there to compete against the private sector health care providers that you and I probably already have.
The argument from the left is that this will provide healthy competition and bring prices down.
The market reality of having the government wedge into the providing of health care is that once employers, especially if the economy remains in the doldrums, once they know that the government has a plan out there that people can just have, company after company after company after company will stop providing health care and worker after worker after worker.
Precisely right.
This is a perversion of the free market and a step toward government control that is the daily dream of the modern left.
Here's Business Daily had an article, and I thought it was awfully good.
It talked about if we really wanted to reform the health care system, we should reform tort control.
I mean, get rid of defensive medicine as a test.
Exactly.
You know, reform the tort system.
And the other one was, oh, yes, remove health care from its connection with employment so that it was a you got paid and you took your own funds and your own colleagues.
That is exactly.
And Pat, thank you.
That's something I think that's going to be a big part of the forward-going discussion.
And listen, the ball is in the Republicans' court.
After once the dragon that is Obamacare is properly slain, it is the job of every Republican, every conservative, to say, okay, what do we put into that vacuum?
What are our ideas that are better on issues like portability, on issues like previously existing conditions?
That is absolutely going to be our responsibility.
A ton of members of Congress, foremost among them mine, if I can throw down props to that fairly rare creature, a congressman who's actually a doctor, Michael Burgess of the 26th District of Texas, he'll sit and bend your ear all day long about superior ideas that the Republican Party might offer.
You bring up something very interesting to be part of that debate is as much as handy as it is and as comfortable as it is, for the most part, to have your health care come along with your job.
Here's your paycheck, here's your health care.
God love you, off you go.
That does create a bit of a barrier where we don't even think about what it costs.
And we get some procedure and we don't know what it costs.
All we know is insurance pays it.
And they do.
And so that's it.
And when it becomes something that's a little closer to the bone, Rush told the story just a few days ago.
He had an emergency room visit and didn't want to mess with all this.
I said, tell me what it costs.
I'll write the check.
Now, not all of us have that option.
But the lesson was invaluable because the cost of it suddenly dropped 40% because the procedural cost, the paperwork costs, the running it up and down the various flagpoles costs.
It became the provider of service and the consumer of service.
It was that simple, and the cost went down.
While not everybody is going to write a big check for what might be an expensive hospital stay, there is a lesson in that.
And we'll talk about that some more today if you wish.
Let me take this break right now, come back, put some more calls on the air.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show for Monday.
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I'm Mark Davis in Dallas, Fort Worth, Texas.
Great to have you here.
Let's get back and put some more folks on the air as we cruise our way through a Monday filled with imagery, Kennedy funeral, Dick Cheney on Fox News Sunday.
Next hour, this is funny.
Well, I don't mean funny, haha, believe you me, but this JC Dugard abduction, this 18 years, this woman, woman now, girl then, brings up so many issues of policy and what our, I guess, our states do in terms of keeping track of parolees and the familiar notions of some people just don't need to be paroled.
And Mr. Gurrito certainly seems to be one of those.
And I think let's pop that in here in the second hour somewhere, along with some other stuff from the weekend gone by.
Right now, though, let us go to Hartford, Connecticut.
And Ferris, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis filling in.
Welcome, sir.
How are you?
It ain't easy being green.
Well, it ain't easy leaving under those policies either.
Well, I am my sister's brother, and I wanted to call and ask you if you might be able to speculate with me on who the new founding fathers might be.
Recently, two weeks ago, yesterday, there was an interview on C-SPAN featuring Juan Williams, the ubiquitous Juan Williams.
He seems to be everywhere these days.
But this was a Life and Times of Juan Williams interview by the C-SPAN fella.
And Juan observed that there are a new set of founding fathers now.
Apparently, the nation is being refounded by our current president.
And Juan observed that there are new founding fathers to take the place of the old ones.
And I wonder who those might be.
I wonder if it's Van Jones, do you think?
No, I don't know.
And hang on, I need to ask you something that's really important because this was a rare appearance of Juan on television that I did not in fact see.
Because I do see him on Fox News Sunday, and I do see him when he's in other places.
And I've been around the man a couple of times, and he is a prince.
And his courage at times in wandering away from the dogma of racial politics, for example, his courage in the Gates and Crowley affair, I think was magnificent.
And he displays it at other times as well.
I find it hard to believe that Juan suggested that the old founding fathers need to be swept away in favor of a new set of founding fathers.
Might he have, so can you give me a little more, and I might need corroboration, I don't know, from somebody else that saw him on C-SPAN.
What really did his point seem to be?
It won't be difficult to find this.
His point was that there is a new group of founding fathers now.
And to me, there's no analysis needed of that.
That's a very direct statement.
Well, that's the thing is secondhand listening is a talk show host's worst enemy.
When somebody thinks I said something and heard it secondhand, when I didn't see this, it's hard for me to process.
So I'm going to defer.
I'm not going to.
It just sounds a little odd.
And I guess maybe I just need to do a quick dive into the world of YouTube here at some point during the top of the hour break or corroboration or something or an alternative view from somebody else who saw it.
I'm trying to think of some ways that this might make a little more sense.
I mean, because, again, if it's Joseph Lowry, absolutely.
If it's Sheila Jackson Lee, absolutely.
If it's Rah Emmanuel even.
But from Juan, that would be maybe a bit of a disconnect from the because Juan, I think, is one of the most clear-headed liberals in America, and that's not a large group of people.
And so I tell you what, let me go do some homework so that I can better address what you brought up.
And in fact, on the issue of homework, why wait till the top of the hour when the Rush Limbaugh clock provides you a break right here.
So let me take that, and we'll continue in just a moment.
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Mark Davis filling in for Rush on the EIB network.
You're listening to the EIB Network.
Well, maybe you can find it, because I have it.
Mark Davis filling in for Rush.
And, you know, I'm sitting here during the break trying to figure out what might Juan have meant with this notion of a new set of founding fathers.
And I can see how that would get anybody's hackles up.
Excuse me.
We don't need a new set of founding fathers here.
The originals were fine.
Because, of course, obviously, by definition, the nation has only one founding.
Everything that comes after that are new incarnations.
And I'm just trying to give benefit of the doubt here.
Possible to phrase something where people are trying to bring about change that is so vast that it's kind of a reinventing of America, kind of a founding fathers' imagery of setting America on a completely new course?
Yeah, I guess.
But anyway, gentlemen's assertion was that, you know, Juan's on C-SPAN talking about hell with the old founding fathers.
Now we got new ones, and that's much better.
I'm quite frankly throwing down BS on that until somebody shows me what he said.
Now, and here's the thing: part of that is because I believe Juan is just too level-headed to say anything like that.
That said, just yesterday, they were talking, they offered up a fascinating contrast between the New York Times, the first paragraph of the New York Times story about the death of Ted Kennedy and the New York Times story about the death of Jesse Helms.
Now, that's not exactly apples and apples.
I obviously was a political fan of Senator Helms more than I was of Senator Kennedy.
But, you know, part of it is you got to take a look at how certain legacies are observed.
So it was a glowing first paragraph for Kennedy and essentially characterized the career of Jesse Helms as having someone with a mossy drawl who was always against civil rights and against gay rights and et cetera, et cetera.
And Juan said, I got no problem with that.
I don't see any double standard when there obviously is one, just looking at lead paragraph versus lead paragraph.
All right, I'll tell you what, we've got a bunch of stuff in progress and new things to come.
Mark Davis in for us.
Stick around.
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