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Aug. 26, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 26, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #2
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That's right, we're back, Rush Limboy and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
We come to you each and every day from the distinguished and prestigious Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
It's always a thrill and a delight to be with you.
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Some people did not believe me when I said that Chris Matthews said today that Barack Obama is the last Kennedy brother.
Okay.
Let's go to the audio sound bites on the today's show, the co-host Ann Curry talking to Chris Matthews, who's the last of the Marx brothers.
You had Harpo, Zeppo, Groucho, Gummo, Checo, and now Chris O. And they're talking about Kennedy and uh President Obama.
He wanted to be his brother's brother.
And then he turned that torch over last year to Barack Obama.
And the great thing about the Kennedys is they always grew as a family.
They tended to get better as they got older.
This family got better.
The Kennedy commitment to civil rights was almost accidental.
It began because of history.
63 at Martin Luther King's March.
By Bobby, it became passion.
By Teddy it became real.
And then Teddy turns it over to the first African American and says, You got the ball.
Amazing history.
Barack's now the last brother.
Well, you have it.
I mean, Barack Obama is now the last brother.
Barack Obama, the last Kennedy brother.
Question from the official program observer, Mr. Snerdley.
Yes, sir.
What's the question?
Yeah, it was the Republicans did secure the passage of the Civil Rights Act in the Senate of 1964.
It was a greater majority of Republicans that voted for it than uh than Democrats.
So I um I don't know, but no, the Republicans have not been passed the ball.
Um Mr. Snerdley, Republicans are aced out of this.
Ann Murray then said, well, oh no, later on, it was on MSNBC.
Matthews was asked, what did it mean in Obama's campaign to get an endorsement?
And what reaction to this day to the Clintons have about by the way, as of the program's start today, 12 noon, we had not heard from the Clintons.
As of 12, as it was a little over an hour ago, the Clintons had not made a statement.
Now, something strange about that, folks, because you remember during the Clinton presidential campaign in 1992, it was revealed that he had gone to Washington as part of Boy's Nation.
He was a candidate from Arkansas Boy State, got to go to Boys Nation, and met JFK out there in the Rose Garden.
And they found a picture of it.
And the first attempt at resurrecting Camelot with the Clintons.
And of course, Camelot went to shreds when Bill got caught doing what Jack never got caught doing.
Clinton got caught, and that's the end of Camelot.
Of course, it's tough to have Camelot with Nurse Ratchet in the White House to begin with.
So they've tried to pass Camelot now to Barack Obama and Michelle.
And it's interesting now that the Clintons have not said a word.
At least they hadn't, as of the time the program started today.
Is is is Hillary even back from Africa?
She Oh, that's right.
She and Bill were meeting up in Bermuda.
That's right.
They were there.
Watch the hurricane go by.
Uh yeah, Hurricane Bill.
It was hurricane.
Matter of fact, by the way, Tropical Storm Danny is out there, and the drive-by-they're so hoping it hits some someplace.
Just but it's the tracks take it uh again into Canada.
When's the last I wouldn't even need these hurricane forecasters said Canada beware?
Lots of hurricanes coming your way this year.
Anyway, here's Matthews.
Answering the question about what it meant to Obama's campaign to get the Kennedy endorsement, and what reaction to this day to the Clintons have about that.
The books are about him will be the last brother.
He is primarily a brother to his brothers.
Joe Sr.
Joe Jr. who lost his life in the war, he never forgot him.
Always loyal to the memory of his brother.
And did Jack and the Bobby.
I think he extended that brotherhood to Barack Obama.
He made him the new brother.
Yeah.
And I think that's the responsibility.
You talk about it all the time.
It is his responsibility now to be the new brother.
He has to lead now.
And I think that the Clintons were passed over.
Do you know what would happen to me if I said of President Obama he's the new brother?
If I called him a brother.
But this is absurd on its face.
And Obama is not loyal to his brothers.
His brother is still living in a hut.
This these people are just absurd.
It doesn't matter where you watch television today.
Even if you turn on Fox, you're going to get the syrupy.
Everything they say is going to be predictable.
Everything is going to be the same.
We must put aside our differences for the day.
And respect the great work and achievements of Senator Kennedy.
And this is just.
I was cracking up this morning when I heard this.
I was cracking up, and I wasn't cracking up because Senator Kennedy died.
I'm cracking up because these people are making fools of themselves.
You give them too much time to talk on television, and they will do it every damn time.
Barack Obama has had the torch passed to him.
Ted Kennedy made him the last brother.
And the Kennedys ever loyal.
The brothers, they were loyal to each other.
Barack Obama, the last Kennedy brother, and Barack Obama's not even loyal to his own brothers.
Brother still lives in a hut.
So we haven't heard from the Clintons.
I think it's fascinating.
We haven't heard from them since Bermuda.
We don't even know if they've left Bermuda.
I mentioned before the break that the Democrats have faked a vandalism crime against against themselves.
I told you when these town halls started when they got all raucous.
I said, Don't be surprised after the White House says this you're nothing but an unruly mob, and Nancy Pelosi said that everybody's out there wearing swasticas and so forth.
I said, Don't be surprised if at the next town hall meeting you go to, a Democrat shows up and tries to act like an extreme angry conservative to give everybody on our side a bad name, and it has now happened in Denver.
A 24-year-old is arrested this morning, actually yesterday morning, on suspicion of smashing eleven windows at the Colorado Democrat Party headquarters.
The person tried to conceal his identity while allegedly committing the crime, according to police descriptions.
Maurice Schwenkler wore a shirt over his face, a hooded sweatshirt, and latex gloves before he and another man fled the scene on bicycles.
Maurice Schwenkler was apprehended after a short chase.
The other suspect remains at large.
While Schwenkler does not appear in the state's voter registration database, a person by that name in November 2008 received $500 from a political 527 committee called Colorado Citizens Coalition for Communications.
The accountant for the 527 appears to be the same woman who handles the books for many other Democrat-leaning political committees.
Also, a Maurice Schwenkler also signed an online 2005 petition to free anti-war Christian protesters who were captured in Iraq.
State Democrat Party chairwoman Pat Walk, or WAC, it's W A K, and I don't know how to pronounce it, initially blamed the vandalism on animosity surrounding the health care debate.
And then she dialed back on that.
The Denver cops declined to comment on motives.
But the suspect a Democrat.
The Democrat went out, committed vandalism against a Democrat Party headquarters in Colorado, try to make it look like an angry Republican over health care.
And there's a picture of this uh Maurice Schwenkler here on the story who broke eleven windows.
It's uh it's in the Denver Post.
Just the sort of thing we've been talking about here.
Democrat Party faking vandalism crimes against itself.
Remember uh what was it?
Was it earlier this week that some government panel or was it Obama, the administration said that they were gonna have mandatory circumcision in this country as uh one of the tools to fight HIV.
I think it was.
It was this week.
So now we have this story from a very circumspect Associated Press.
Circumcision, which has helped prevent AIDS among heterosexual men in Africa, does not help protect gay men from the virus.
According to the largest U.S. study to look at the question.
The uh research presented at a conference on Tuesday is expected to influence the government's first guidance on circumcision.
Circumcision is not considered beneficial in stopping the spread of HIV through gay sex, said Dr. Peter Kilmarks of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and maybe they're just not doing it right.
They never think about the Clintons have issued statements uh about 20 minutes ago.
They waited for everybody else because they knew that everybody else's statements would get melded together, thrown into the mix, and they waited so that their statements stand out.
I have their statements here, but I'm not gonna fall for the trick.
They've issued statements, but I'm not telling you what they said.
Uh here is uh Thea in Spokane.
Welcome to the EIB.
Great to have you here.
Hi, Rush.
I just want to tell you that woman who called and haranged you, has my blood pressure up so many points.
My doctor's going to insist I go on blood pressure medicine, and thank you, I can pay for it.
Tell that woman to get out of my life.
If she and her friends want to stand in a welfare line and get their medications free, then they're welcome to it.
But the problem with the health care bill is I'm lumped in with her, and I don't want to be in any shape, way, or form.
I try not to take Medicare.
Just try it.
And that was just going to help the old people.
Yeah, it helps us all right.
I'm dreading having to go on it in a year.
Just try not to take Social Security.
Try to tell those people you don't need a handout from the government, and you didn't really earn it.
Because you actually saved for your old age and retirement.
Just try not to take it.
Oh no, madam.
We're not allowed to do that.
We don't have a slot for you not to take it.
You must stand up and be a good little soldier in our social programs.
Oh, that woman just picked me off.
Yeah, me too, but for different reasons.
I couldn't get it.
I couldn't get a word in, and she kept telling me that she couldn't get away from the word Meridan.
Let me tell you something.
You're I got a lot of email about that woman, uh, Christine, and and your reaction uh is is identical to what a lot of people's reaction is, and it's actually very healthy.
I mean, a lot of people have the same reaction you had, which hey, go out and get it yourself.
Stop depending on me.
Yeah.
You would have had people call here.
Oh, she's working three part-time jobs, and some people don't have any jobs.
That's exactly right because of this president.
Some people don't have any hope of getting a job because of this president.
And she's out there saying, Well, I'm working three part-time jobs and not give me any health care.
Go buy it yourself.
Get rid of the cell phone, get rid of cable TV.
That's exactly what it is.
If it matters that much to you, get rid of something and go buy it.
It's all the entitlement mentality.
Damn straight.
It's mine because I want it to be mine.
And if my neighbor has to pay for it, so well.
That's exactly right.
It's not she thinks that a government's pay for governments pay for black water.
That woman is she was a walking talking cliche.
And that's what's for because that's the the mind-numbed robots in this country are are are the people who follow liberals blindly.
Absolutely.
You know, I ask teenagers whenever I run across one of them.
I ask them two things.
Do you know how a law even started and how it's passed?
And they look at me blankly.
Well, the president does it.
No, he doesn't.
And I ask him this.
Well, now wait.
The president does do it now.
Well, yeah, but that's not the way it's in the Constitution.
Well, I know that's true, but the president's passing laws, he's buying companies, he's firing executives, he's uh mandating all kinds of things.
That's a kind of a case of being careful what you wish for.
It may come true.
Well, the liberals have been wishing for it, and now they're damn close to getting it, and our country's going down the toilet.
I can see it circling the drain.
The Democrat Party is gonna go down to drain and toilet before the country does.
Well, I think it's a very good thing.
The country is uh trust me on this.
Don't doubt me.
Oh good.
I'm telling you, that this country is far more resilient.
There are many millions more people like You out there, Thea, than there are the Christines.
There's a there's a scary number of Christines out there, but there are many more people like you.
Otherwise the country wouldn't be working.
The functioning country if we were a nation of Christines, we wouldn't be functioning.
And I'm gonna tell you, Obama wants a nation of Christines.
That's the best way to explain it.
Obama wants a nation of Christine.
Now, people that didn't hear the first hour.
Come on, Rush, it's not fair.
Who's Christine?
What does she do?
What it's torturous, friends, to listen to this.
It was torturous to talk to that woman.
I did to listen to it again.
But I Mike, roll that call off because people are going to have to hear this if they didn't hear it to know what we're talking about here.
Thank you.
And uh say Obama is is desirous of having a nation of Christines.
That's the simplest way to put look at Thea.
I'm uh I'm glad you called out there.
Appreciate it very much.
Ken in Detroit.
Nice to have you, sir.
Hello.
Yeah, Rush.
Um I like to comment on the uh passing of uh uh Senator Kennedy.
Uh first of all, I'd like to say that I would never wish any harm or death to anyone, but speaking strictly as him being a senator, I would have to say that uh because of his lifetime or I should say lifelong promotion of socialism, and because of uh his involvement with what happened at uh Chappaquet.
Uh I won't miss uh not seeing him in Washington.
That's a very honest thing for you to say, sir.
Uh the very few people today would express that sentiment.
Well, like I said, uh I have to look at the whole situation honestly.
Yeah.
And there again, I I I feel bad that any human being would pass away.
But strictly looking at his uh lifetime career as a senator, who I feel has uh uh done severe damage to society, not uh help society.
There are many people uh let me paraphrase what you've just said.
There are many people today and for the for for a long time who've referred to Senator Kennedy as the lion of the Senate.
You've heard that, right?
Yes, yes.
Well, what you're basically saying is he may have been the lion of the Senate, but we were his prey.
Yes, absolutely.
I think uh anyone who stood for truth and patriotism was the prey of uh people who are uh like-minded with Senator Kennedy, uh because of their uh views on uh allowing the government to dictate our rights.
Yeah, that was about that's that's that's not just their policy, it's also their source of redemption.
Uh when any liberal politician any liberal politician, most every liberal politician can get away with any bad act, any bad behavior on earth, as long as that liberal politician has famously and uh uh very visibly used government to take money from people who work to give it to people who don't.
That is called compassion, that's called virtue, that's called caring, and that buys you a lot of insurance against uh behavior that other people are sanctioned for and ripped to shreds for.
Well, Rush, I'm a conservative who believes that it's extremely important in protecting the rights of the individual, which is what the Constitution does.
And I think that it's highly important that we stand up against those individuals who choose uh per their political views to strip away our freedoms and our liberty.
Well, I'm glad you called.
I appreciate you uh taking the time.
Beth in Westmoreland, New York.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush, God bless you.
My family loves you.
I have four rush babies, and the oldest one introduced me to you.
He's he's in the military now.
I want to ask a favor of Christine and three favors of the liberals, if I may please.
Sure.
Um, I'm hard of hearing, and I went to get the tubing replaced on my hearing aid last week, and there were some beautiful hearing aids in that office, but I couldn't afford to save my life.
You know, twelve hundred dollars, twenty four hundred dollars.
I'd love to have one.
Could she buy me one, please?
Since she wants me to pay for her health care and pay for her medication.
You know, and if she really has three part part time jobs, what's she doing on the phone with you?
I'm a nurse and I work really hard, and you know, I I work evenings and all kinds of odd shit, so I can listen to you.
But I have three favors to ask of liberals.
Hey, please stop dragging around the dead bodies of people and using them for sympathy from everybody else.
It's not healthy, you know.
So it's what uh that that uh woman did with her son in the military who died, you know, that awful woman proceeded Christie sh shann, Cindy Shehan, yeah.
Yeah, that's that's horrible.
My my son's in the military.
I wouldn't do that to him if he lost his life.
Uh please stop doing that to people who she was, you know what?
In all in all fairness to her.
She was trying to find some reason, you know, what the to explain why her son's death meant anything.
And that PR firm, a liberal PR firm in San Francisco, dragged her through that mud.
They're the ones the libs used her, and now they're finished with her.
They don't want any more to do with her now that Obama's in office.
You gotta love Mark Stein.
I've got a story in the stack today.
When I was gonna get to health care.
And the headline's really all you need.
It's from the UK Daily Mail.
Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in elevators, offices, and hospital toilets.
Come on, America, let's make it happen.
Let's do it for Teddy.
This is what the the drive-bys are all saying today, and that's Mark Stein's reaction.
Hey, yeah, 4,000 mothers.
A shortage of beds forces 4,000 birth panels, birth panels in the UK health system.
They're giving birth in the hallways, in toilets, in offices, in elevators.
Come on, America, let's make it happen.
Let's do it for Teddy.
That's the point of my opening model.
Put his name on this health care bill mocks Ted Kennedy's spirit for life.
Forget his politics for a second.
It put his name on this health care bill to run around and try to pass this abomination in his memory with his name on it.
Is is is hypocritical and it is insulting.
Now let's move on to Senator McCain in his town hall yesterday.
Uh you know, here what President Obama is preparing to pass an extinguished torch to future generations of Americans.
Remember, Senator uh or President Kennedy.
The torch has been passed to another generation.
Obama's gonna pass a torch, only a torch he passes is going to be extinguished.
The torch he's gonna pass is one of fascism and it's this this health care debacle.
So McCain has a town hall yesterday.
And I, folks, it was worse than I thought it was gonna be.
My my approach was uh uh reaction, it was negative, it was appropriate.
Here's uh just a this is a sample of uh we have one soundbite from the town hall yesterday, Sun City, Arizona woman got up and said, I would like to know how the president's getting by with all of this money.
It's against the Constitution.
Doesn't he know we still live under a constitution?
I'm sure that he does.
I'm sure no, no, I'm I'm serious.
I'm sure that he does, and I'm sure that he respects the Constitution of the United States.
No, no, no, no.
I no, I I re I really do.
I I am absolutely convinced of it.
I just believe, my friends, that there is a fundamental difference in philosophy and about the role of government.
That's why we have competition for public office and competition amongst parties and competition about different ideas and visions for the future of America.
I am convinced the president is absolutely sincere in his beliefs.
But he is wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
He is sincere in his beliefs.
We just we just happen to disagree, and he is the president of the United States, and let's be respectful.
Now, this is this is uh problematic.
Here's here's he's running for re-election.
His audience does not trust Obama.
All trust has been lost.
They are afraid.
People are scared to death of this man.
They're scared to death of his policies.
The people of this country who showed up at McCain's town hall think Obama has no respect for the Constitution.
Sure he knows what it is, but he looks at it as a limiting document.
He has said so himself.
What is so hard about people in our party understanding what their opponents actually say and believe?
Obama looks at the Constitution as a series of negative rights.
Obama says he looks at the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, First Ten Amendments.
It doesn't say what the government can do to you.
It doesn't say what the government can do for you.
All it says is what the government can't do.
Well, he is a big believer in government doing everything.
He that the Constitution is an obstacle to him.
And McCain ought to know this.
You know, we just reason people, we say it's a political philosophies.
You know, something else that McCain did yesterday, and this is a really this is so tired and worn out.
At this town meeting, he said we have to take Washington back from the special interests.
Folks, that is just vacuous psychobabble, in my humble opinion.
We need to take this country back from the liberal Marxists that have taken over.
We don't need to take it.
The special interest that we need to fear is fascism.
The special interest these special interests are all over Barack Obama's administration after telling us they wouldn't be there all over the place.
People that work for him are enriching themselves in a public trough like never before.
And that's something people thought was going to change, but it hasn't changed.
I mean, the the the the the fascists, the Marxists in this administration.
They're working with the special interests.
Whatever that term means anymore.
That's just an illustration of how antiquated this line of thinking is.
We're all hostage.
Post politicians are hostage to special interests.
That's what meaningful campaign financial reform was all about.
Because good people come here, you corrupt it.
You corrupted by special interests.
Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, it's all we need campaign for.
It's this this it's this tired, worn out.
Gosh, we're all hostage to the special interests.
It's more like a reciprocal corrupt arrangement.
The Democrats and the unions are bought and paid for by big business executives, AARP, I mean special interests, it's it's a they're they're blood brothers.
And I this this business that that uh he wants to lay out the groundwork to sell us out on health care by coming up with a bipartisan bill when the Democrats are in the process of flaming out and talking about using reconciliation, let them do all of these things.
Don't give them any assistance.
Don't go bipartisan with them on this at all.
Now, McCain, uh he made every effort in that town hall meeting yesterday to make himself appear to be a reasonable man wanting to work with a political party not his own.
But those days are gone.
That's not what the American people want right now.
And certainly people that vote for Republicans do not want that myth that he ran for office on that myth, and look what happened.
He ran for office on the idea that the American people just want us to work together.
He's out there saying we gotta work together, and I'm the guy to cross the No, that's why you lost the election.
Good grief.
What this isn't about McCain anyway.
The country's facing problems that will likely irrevocably harm everyone alive today, and Americans yet to be born and to solve this to satisfy some personal insecurities about an option that's no longer viable working with these guys.
Who in the hell is still talking about working with these guys?
Anyone that's reasonable is talking about stopping these guys.
We're talking about beating these guys.
We're talking about defeating these guys.
Now all of a sudden we're gonna start working with all my I can't tell you how frustrating this is.
It's almost as frustrating as listening to that Christine call.
Which we have ready to go.
I'm gonna take a timeout here.
We'll come back so you know who Christine was if you missed the first hour, it's coming next right after this.
All right.
For those of you who heard it, the original call with Christine about an hour ago, a little over an hour ago.
I apologize you've got to put up with it again.
It's four minutes long, but for people that didn't hear it and heard us discussing it, I wanted them to hear what we were discussing.
And so here it is.
Here's Christine in Syracuse, Indiana.
Hi, Christine, great to have you with us.
Hi, I want to know how I I'm curious.
You alluded to the fact of what a fighter Ted Kennedy was.
How do you know he didn't have a a living will or a medical directive?
I mean, uh if he had if he had, of course, he had the means to be able to use uh any kind of uh new age and or uh experimental cancer treatment because he had the means.
But uh I'm in favor of a national health care program.
I'm uninsured right now.
I know uh two other people with the same problem I do.
They're either working three minimum wage jobs with no health insurance at all, or they're working a full-time job.
My one friend's working a full-time job and a part-time job, and they just took away her prescription.
Health care coverage.
She has no prescription, so she can't take her high blood pressure medicine.
It isn't on the Walmart list.
She doesn't have uh the means to pay for it, and she makes too much money to get it from a pharmaceutical company.
It just grabbels me that you you talk about um living wills as if it were a bad thing.
I have a 90-year-old father who has a living will.
I did not say living wills were a bad thing.
There is no death panel.
They're allowing they're allowing doctors, they are allowing doctors and paying for doctors to be able to discuss with a patient of a certain age.
Wait a second, Christine.
To be able to write a will to know what their intent is at the end of their life.
I'm not your husband.
That is a very good thing.
Christine.
You are just wrong.
Now, do you want to talk about this or do you want to go on living the illusions that you're under right now?
I'm not under any illusion.
You are because let me ask you something, Rush.
Do you have a living will?
Do you have a medical directive?
Yeah, but the government doesn't demand it.
The government didn't tell me I had to do it, and the government.
Well, the only difference is the government is paying for it.
No, the case is not a good thing.
The government is paying for it.
No, the government, but wait a second.
Wait, the government is not paying for it.
Your neighbors are, Christine.
When you complain that you have no health insurance.
My government is also paying for Halliburton, my government is paying for Blackwater.
My government is paying for Blackwater.
Barack Obama just hired Blackwater.
Yeah.
My government is paying for a lot of things that I don't necessarily want.
Well, uh You know Join the Club Christine.
Join the club, Christine.
Join the my government is paying for a lot of things I don't want either.
But you are wrong in your assessment of this health care legislation.
No, I am not.
I think it's a wonderful thing.
I think it's about damn time.
You know what's also interesting is if you talk to people who are on Social Security, they will tell you, they will tell you that they love their social security, but they don't want national health care.
Now, why is that?
Maybe they're afraid that the pot will run dry.
Is that the problem?
Uh you know, I also have a pre-existing condition.
No, do you that business would eliminate would you take a breath?
I can't get a word in, Ed's wife, and you can cut my mic off.
My gosh, I can't get a word in.
Ha, ha, ha.
You will cut my mic off.
I've been on before.
Oh, yeah.
You cut my mic off, and then you go on.
I have not cut your mic off.
You're too you're too valuable.
You do have a living will.
And you do have a medical directive.
Yeah, but but then that's a good thing.
Yes.
It's a good thing.
It is a good yes, but it's not but not because as a federal panel that's making me do it.
Not because the government's requiring me to do it.
Federal panel, that you no, I've read the legislation on the bill, and yet that is such a listen to me.
Listen, Christine, it's real simple.
At a certain stage in your life, Barack Obama and the executive branch are gonna decide who gets paid, who gets covered, and who gets treated.
And they're gonna make the decision based on how sick are you and how old are you.
They might be called death panels, but it's gonna be it's gonna be rationing of health care.
It is gonna happen, and it didn't happen to Ted Kennedy.
Now grow up here.
You gotta get out of this liberal childishness you're in and grow up and open your mind here.
Get a real job.
Everybody was just angry as they could be over that call.
And did you hear I uh you know my hearing is somewhat limited.
I heard something for the first time in this call.
I didn't hear it the w when uh when she was originally talking to me because I was trying to respond to her in the first place.
She talked about a friend of hers who now makes too much money to get free prescriptions.
Well, go frigging pay for it then.
And that's the reaction everybody had.
People, you know, and you know, everybody knows a Christine in their life.
Everybody knows some people sadly have a Christine in their family.
But everybody knows a Christine, and you can't get through to them.
They are mind-numbed robots.
But um, that's that's who she is.
All right, Barry in Los Angeles.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
You're next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Great fan of yours.
I've been listening to you since 1991.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
Uh, great fan.
Well while everybody is uh concentrating on uh Ted Kennedy and health care.
I think one of the biggest services that Ted Kennedy made for Democrat Party and their power was a 64 immigration law that changed the landscape of this country forever.
I mean, that since then the demographic of the country is changing so much in favor of Democrats that they should thank him.
The Democrats should thank him for that rather than uh advocating health care or other social programs.
Just wanted to know your opinion.
Well, you I hang on just a second.
I've got some thoughts about this.
You're you're being, I want to understand though, you're being uh sarcastic, correct.
No, he changed it no, I'm not being sarcastic.
I'm the true conservative, and I think Yeah, but you don't think he changed the nation for the better with this, is what you're saying.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, he changed it for worse.
I mean, the immigrants did help the Democrat Party, and they what you're saying is the Democrat Party forget health care, they owe him a big one because of what he did with immigration reform.
Yes, yes.
That's my exact point.
Well, that's that's I think you're exactly right.
Remember that during the debate, during debate on the Senate floor of his immigration and nationality act of 1965.
Ted Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the immigration and nationality act of 1965, said, quote, first, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually.
Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same.
Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.
Contrary to the charges in some quarters, the bill will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia.
In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.
The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants.
It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society.
It will not relax the standards of admission.
It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.
He said that.
It was his Immigration and Nationality Act, 1965.
You're absolutely right out there, Barry.
I'm sorry.
And let's not forget that Senator Kennedy also created the concept of HMOs.
When you go back to health care, Senator Kennedy gave us HMOs, and in the latter years of his life, Senator Kennedy was the number one outspoken opponent of HMOs that he created.
So while everybody's doing this lionization today of Senator Kids, it's classic.
Liberals get credit for their intentions, and because their intentions are good, their hearts are assumed to be gigantic and big and compassionate, but they wreak havoc on the country.
LBJ Ditto, Great Society, The War on Poverty, all these programs have the exact opposite effect of their intentions.
Every damn one of them.
They end up hurting the people they are supposed to help.
And yet they're never called to account for it.
They're never held accountable for this.
They are always allowed to act like spectators.
And when something goes wrong, they get to investigate it as though, who did this?
Hurricane Katrina, great example of that.
All the while being lionized and treated as the most compassionate among us.
All because All because what they really do is use the government to take money from people who work and give it to people who don't work, like the Christines.
And Barack Obama, you now have heard the Christine call.
Barack Obama wants a nation of Christines.
That's what he's aiming for.
We'll be back.
Latest Gallup poll, Barack Obama, 51% approval, 44% disapproval.
Latest Gallup poll.
If I were a CIA agent, I would tell the Attorney General, you start the trial this week.
I want a jury of 12 Americans to tell me that while I sweated and froze in a rock or Afghanistan making ridiculous wages, that I was committing crimes against my country.
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