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Aug. 17, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 17, 2009, Monday, Hour #2
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Ladies and gentlemen, I must uh issue a warning.
Some of the audio sound bites upcoming in this segment are quite disturbing.
Uh they are sound bites about me, your beloved host.
And they are um inflammatory, they are defamatory.
And were I not a public figure, I could uh retire with what I could win from these people in court.
But I'm gonna play these for you because it's I'm gonna show you what passes for reporting these days and commentary in the state controlled media greetings and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh in Los Angeles from a secluded location nobody could ever find.
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I want to go back to April, I'm sorry, January 16th on this program.
I want you to listen to um my my whole notion on I want and hope Obama fails.
The reason Obama's having big trouble with his policies right now, is just as I warned you, he was elected on platitudes, he was elected on feelings, he was elected on atmospherics and cult like things, not specifics.
So here come the specifics and the specifics Obama's pushing don't match any of his rhetoric.
We were gonna get rid of all the angst.
We were gonna get rid of all the arguing, we're gonna get rid of all the racism, and now look at us.
The polarization is as it's always been, and I told you it would be.
I predicted all of this, but here's what I said about I want Obama to fail.
If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down.
And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him.
Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the U.S. government as possible.
From the banking business to the mortgage industry to the automobile business to the health care I do not want the government in charge of all of these things.
I don't want this to work.
So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, so okay, I'll I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four.
I hope he fails.
Well, what are you laughing at?
See, here's the point.
Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say.
Look at even my staff, oh, you can't do that.
You why not?
Why is it any different?
What's new?
What is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails.
Liberalism is our problem.
Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here.
Why do I want more of it?
I don't care what the drive-by story is.
I would be honored if the drive-by media headlined me all day long.
Limbaugh colon, I hope Obama fails.
Somebody's gotta say it.
And they did.
They just trumpeted it all over the place.
Limbaugh, I can't believe he said I hope Obama fails.
What this was in reaction to was the Wall Street Journal asked me to do a uh, or maybe Yeah.
Some publication wanted me to do 400 words on my hopes for the new administration.
I have a bunch of people on their editorial page.
I said, I don't need 400 words, I need four.
I hope he fails.
That's what got the whole thing started.
And it's important to remember this because he is failing, and I'm happy.
And you're happy.
57% of the American people think no health care change is better than the health than his plan.
Uh the 52%, 50% 54%, I'm sorry, 57% say a stimulus isn't working and it might be making things worse.
I'm winning.
He's failing.
The American people don't want Obama to succeed.
This just has the state-controlled media out of control.
They are just uh off the reservation.
They can't, they're so mad they can't see straight.
Here is last night, CNN's newsroom.
They anchor Don Lemon interviewing the author Tim Wise, who has a book called Between Barack and a Hard Place, Racism and White Denial in the Age of Obama.
And Don Lemon says, some of the conservative talk show hosts there should they be more responsible with their language, because people may be buying into what they're saying and not realizing it's coded racism.
When you portray Obama as Hitler, as some of these folks have done, what you're saying, and this is very interesting.
Think about Hitler.
We think of Hitler as not just a fascist, but a racial fascist.
So if what they're saying is this man Obama is a racial fascist, the question that gets bagged in a lot of white people's minds is, hmm, I wonder what race he's going to come for.
Oh, yes, us, because Glenn Beck said it's reparations, and Rush Limbaugh said Obama hates white people.
It gins up this type of hostility and really white racial paranoia and white racial resentment at a time when we need to be seriously talking about issues that face us as a nation and not being engaged in this kind of racial politics, but that's what's going on.
So this is the kind of lying that uh passes for reporting and wise commentary on the left.
I never said Obama hates white people.
He's got a chip on his shoulder about the unjust and immoral past of this country.
I never called him Hitler.
And let's not forget, you dopes at CNN and everywhere else.
Could you please, for 21 years behind this microphone, I have listened to people like you try to equate conservatives with Nazism and with Adolf Hitler, and I'm fed up with it.
Hitler was a man of the left.
Adolf Hitler was much closer to you guys than he is to me or any of my friends.
And Nancy Pelosi started this.
She called the people showing up at town hall meetings Nazis that are wearing swastikas.
And you're purposely leaving that out of this, so you can run with your template.
And then, of course, the White House.
The Obama machine starts attacking half the American people, calling them an unruly mob.
You guys have got it bass acquires here as in terms of what's happening out there.
Nobody called him Hitler, but you compare his health care plan to the National Socialist Healthcare Plan in Germany, and I'm gonna find a lot of similarities there.
You won't find any similarities between whatever conservative health care plans there are and what and what the National Socialists did.
Nobody, you know, we've written about this extensively.
Andy McCarthy has nobody's talking genocide here, nobody's talking racism.
We're talking socialism.
And we're talking how it doesn't work.
And we're trying to make comparisons to people for historical perspective, so that rather than just believe us when we say it doesn't work, we can point to places where it hasn't worked.
Same program, Don Lemon had this exchange with the same author, Tim Wise.
I was at a town hall yesterday, and I really had to take some people to task.
They were using those buzzwords that I don't think people realize all the time, like real Americans or give me back my America was one of the songs, or take back America.
It's like, what do you mean by that?
When you stand up and you wax nostalgic and say things like, I want the country that the founders envisioned, when the country the founders envisioned was a system of white supremacy, I think that race is playing a pretty big role.
You know, um.
This steams me on a number of levels.
But here's a guy, Tim Wise, writing a book about Obama, who is ignorant about the founding of this country.
This give me back my America, take back my country.
That's Howard Dean.
We've got that soundbite montage coming up.
Howard Dean was talking about that all through 2004.
But the country the founders envisioned was a system of white supremacy.
Mr. Wyatt is wise.
Tim Wise, you ought to be ashamed.
You this country was not founded on the premise of white supremacy.
What happened was the original 13 colonies.
There were 13 of them, and then uh they needed all thirteen to be unified to declare independence, send the message across the pond that we're breaking away.
And there were some of these colonies that were slave, slave states, colonies wouldn't even call them.
And it was an agonizing thing for many of these founders that have to do.
John Adams particularly was an agonizing thing, and they knew that it was going to cause problems down the road because the whole principle of one man owning another did not jibe with the constitution they wrote, the declaration that they wrote, and so guess what?
They wrote a constitution which allowed for that to change, and it did.
We lost 500,000 of our own citizens getting rid of slavery.
We went to war with ourselves over it.
And the Constitution and our laws have made many changes.
It is not the America of 200 years ago, and these people are trying to make it out.
What's really frosting to me is, you know, I like being right, but I don't really like being right about this.
I predicted Pretty much every bit of this.
Any criticism of Obama, no matter what, is going to be called racist.
And I, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit back.
And if just like they say, you hit us, we're gonna punch back twice as hard.
I'm punching back twice as hard.
Nancy Pelosi calls my audience, calls me, calls my friends Nazis.
Now I'm hitting back twice as hard.
Not putting up with this anymore.
And you dunderheads, you people who have the smallest minds, I can who think you're the most brightest and the brilliant people among us.
You don't even qualify to write a credible book on Obama, Mr. Wise, and this anchor at CNN is uh likewise uh an embarrassment.
Now you wonder where this phrase, take back my country, give me my country back.
Well, listen to at the time the chairman of the Democrat National Committee during the 2004 primaries.
We are taking our country back piece by piece from the Rush Limbaugh.
You have the power to take back our country so that the flag no longer represents solely Rush Limbaugh, you have a power to take back our country so that the flag never again is the sole property of Rush Limbaugh.
We have the power to take back our country.
So that the flag of the United States is no longer the sole property of Rush Limbaugh.
This country does not belong to Rush Limbaugh.
Move over.
I want my country back again because the flag of this country does not belong to Rush Limbaugh.
You have the power to take back the flag, so it is no longer belongs solely.
It's Rush Limbaugh.
Howard Dean back in 2004, the Democrat primaries, and these two dunderheads on CNN wonder where in the hell this all came from.
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Uh to the phones, we're gonna go to Roundup Montana and start there.
Sandy, hi, great that you uh called.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Thank you, Rush.
It's a privilege to be on your show.
Thanks very much.
I just wanted to comment on the Belgrade Town Hall meeting in Montana.
Um my family and I were first-time attenders for any kind of protesting um at all.
I mean, I'm a stay-at-home mom who raised four children, homeschooled them, but you know, just like many other people in America, it's a high time that we state our opinion and exercise our first amendment right, um, you know, freedom of speech, and we went there, even though we didn't have tickets, we wrote out our signs, um, signs saying things like government hands off, give me liberty and give me life, those sort of things.
When we showed up, um, we didn't really know where to stand.
We saw many other first-time uh protesters as well.
They were equally confused on where to go.
But all we had to do was listen and look, and we heard um a tea party group set up on a five-acre lot, and we actually heard your program being aired.
And as soon as we heard your voice, we said, Aha, that's where we're supposed to be.
Well, it was just like being at home.
So we went ahead and followed that area, and some of the other people that were, you know, holding protesting signs that were first timers also went in that direction.
When we arrived, though, there was a whole lot of confusion because all we heard was um your voice, you know, over a loudspeaker, but then we heard a big group saying, Hush, rush, hush, rush, and we thought, wait a second, what's going on?
Are these for or against?
What in the world?
We later found out that the Tea Party group that rented the five-acre area, um, they were infiltrated by the Acorn group.
The Acorn group had another area, but it wasn't as strategically placed, you know, in as good of an area to protest or or support, and they had actually come and mixed themselves among the protesters, and there was utter confusion.
I could not believe it because every time you turned around, you saw an Obama sign, you know, supporting it, and then you'd see sprinkled throughout protesters here and there.
But my point is is that Acorn clearly infiltrated the area where the protesters were.
And one of the things that was so glaring that I noticed is I know the media has this big thing about how, oh, the conservatives, you know, and the the um the people that are protesting this health care bureau, angry mobs that are showing up at town hall meetings.
Well, we found the opposite to be true.
All the conservatives that I saw, my family included, were simply holding up our signs, and what would happen was these acorn people would come up, or people that were walking to the town hall, would come up and literally shake their heads and start screaming something at you, and our response was never venomous back to them.
You know, at one time um there was a gentleman that walked by my husband's sign, and he had all these, you know, no universal health care Signs and so forth.
And he literally shook his head and had a position as if he was going to hit my husband.
And all my husband said back to him was, It's great to be an American, isn't it, sir?
Which of course I think made him even angrier.
But what ended up happening was after you know the whole scene went, we looked back and noticed that Acorn was such an organized group that most of the protesters were people just like myself, people that love their country, that simply want their voice to be heard, and they may never have done that before in their life.
I mean, I don't consider myself a political activist.
You know, I pray for my country, I love my country, but I finally got to the point where I said, hey, there's an area that we can, you know, show up and like we're in support.
And I'll tell you, Rush, that the terrible thing too is that every time the media would come, these acorn people would get out of their vehicles, they would be waiting until the perfect time.
They'd get out of their vehicles, and then they tried to crowd out where we were holding our signs.
And I had heard that also when the Tea Partiers had tried to ask the folks to leave the area because it was a rented area for the Tea Party group, um, they were arrested.
And you know, I I was so outraged when we had gotten home after it was all over.
We had gotten home.
I knew that um, you know, it was going to be on the media and on the TV, on the news.
We even went to some conservative news sites like Newsmax.com, and we were so disheartened because the consensus, you know, was that oh, it he was fairly well received.
That's not the way we looked at it.
We looked at it as they we were crowded out by an organized group that had their job.
Sandy, here's what happened to you.
This is what this is a great story.
It's a it's a it's a uh it's a great illustration, too.
You show up because of passion.
You show up for the first time ever at anything like this because of passion.
Fear, whatever it is.
You don't want what is being proposed.
You don't want what is being shoved down the throat.
It's not, it doesn't remind you of what your country is.
And the Obama people are not showing up at these town hall meetings because of passion.
They're not showing up to support this.
They're showing up because they've been given orders.
Acorn is part of his organizing group.
They've been show they're they're showing up here to try to disrupt, they're showing up trying to uh uh intimidate.
And uh that's why I said last week I'm so proud of people like you and and the people that are showing up at these um at these town hall meetings because it's genuine.
It's the truth versus lies.
It's the tr it's it's real passion versus fake.
And it's it's it's it's available for everybody to see like you saw it.
And it's always more powerful when somebody experiences something uh rather than has it uh has it described to them.
Now listen, I've got a soundbite here that will go very well with her call.
This is Saturday on NPR, all things considered, the host was interviewing a senior writer for something called the root.
And I'm not even gonna try with these names.
Um the question, there's a lot of confusion and misinformation out there on the various plans for changing the healthcare system.
And an essay on the website, The Root.com, argues the rage isn't really about health care at all.
The author Kay Wright says it's really about the anxieties of a whole segment of America that increasingly feels shut out.
We're seeing a group of folks trying to exploit those anxieties.
The fear of Barack Obama not being a citizen to these notions that people would have to stand in front of a death panel and defend their right to live.
We've seen a handful of folks, both in corporate media and in the Republican Party, try to elevate those ideas in an effort to exploit those anxieties.
And they do seem to be coming from the militia movement when you when you trace some of who the leaders are, particularly amongst the birthers.
They're folks who have a history in the militia movement.
Now, you just heard Sandy from Roundup Montana.
And I'll guarantee you, Sandy from Roundup Montana is not in the militia.
These people are doing their level best.
This is NPR.
This is this is part of state-controlled media, impugning on behalf of Barack Obama, the American people, attacking them as all birthers, as all part of a militia movement, they're all racists.
They're not any of that.
What they are is Americans, and they don't want what Obama is trying to peddle.
They don't want the Democrat version of health care reform.
They are not worried about death panels of being lined up and having to plead for their life.
What they're worried about is the government deciding who gets treated and who doesn't.
It's their decision.
It's a family's decision made with a doctor.
It's not Barack Obama's decision.
It's not anybody, it's NPR's decision to decide who gets treated and for what.
That's always taken care of the private sector.
People do not want the government making these kinds of decisions.
So the host of NPR then says, so your um your argument is that the anger and the rage of many people who are expressing it now just being channeled in the wrong direction.
I'd say it's being exploited more than channeled.
Um the GOP, I think in particular is trying to exploit it, Rush Limbaugh is trying to exploit it.
We're not exploiting anything.
We are watching it.
You know that the the the you i i i it's part and parcel.
These egghead elitists, wherever they are in state controlled media, think that you are incapable of coming up with a thought on your own.
That you are incapable of seeing something and reading something and deciding you don't like it.
You have to be exploited.
You have to be given marching orders.
It's the Obama people that have the marching orders.
It's the Obama people in the media who have been given the marching orders.
This is the media meeting their waterloo, and their waterloo is Barack Obama and carrying his water.
Quick timeout, back after this, don't go away.
I just found out something.
You know that uh the the past two sound bites that we played, uh this guy named Kay or Kai Wright, K A I, I don't know how you pronounce it.
His website is the root dot com, and this is the guy who said the health care debate's all about race.
You know whose website that is?
Skip Gates.
That guy is that that website is Henry Lewis, the professor from Harvard, who screamed racism.
So the racists are out there charging race.
When the health care debate has nothing to do with race, it has nothing to do with militias, it has nothing to do with birthers, it has nothing to do with anything other than genuine substance and passion.
And that is a growing majority of the American people want no part of what Obama is offering.
I think it's fabulous.
These and these these people in the uh in the media, wherever they are, you guys are really gonna have to step back, and you're gonna have to start looking at yourselves.
You are making idiots fools of yourselves.
I mean, it's it's getting worse than it has ever been.
And you're losing right along with Obama.
You're not persuading any of you just talking to each other when your highbrow little template ways that don't relate to anything going on in this country.
Westchester, Ohio next.
This is Jerry on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Real pleasure to be here.
Thank you.
Just calling to let you know I've been trying for about 20 years to start with, and I'm a senior citizen, I want to say, ex-military for 41 years and police officer and retired and comes from a family of twelve Tennessee, and so now I got that out of the way.
And and my big thing is that uh I happen to be sitting uh watching TV, like I usually do on the Saturday morning shows sometimes.
Uh I have to be real careful what you get on to.
But um uh it had uh Geraldine Ferraro there, and and it was another Republican young Republican congressman, I don't know what his name was, I can't remember right now, but um one of the one up and coming uh stars, I guess.
I don't know.
But they were talking about how people were getting in their faces uh, you know, at these uh town hall meetings, and I've been to all the tea parties from Ohio and around close by, Columbus and everywhere else.
And anyway, um, you know, they were talking about being in your face, and I thought, well, you know, here they are.
What what elitist uh is Ferraro is?
I mean, I've watched her come up through the years as a young woman and now she's sort of mellowed out.
And uh here she is talking about, you know, you've got to you've got to be a little bit more used to look common courtesy and things.
Well, you know, where where is the common courtesy come when you tell your your representative to go, you know, go back to Washington when they come to their own.
Look, let me tell you something.
This is this is a subject here that has that is uh been brought up a number of times.
These members of Congress out there, they're part of the crowd that's saying people like you showing up are part of an unruly mob.
Uh and it's it's uh everybody knows that it's ridiculous.
And there were people at the beginning that's oh well need to act a little bit more civil.
Um this tactic is going to backfire.
It's going to irritate the independence and the American people.
Well, you know, sitting back and acting civil is what gave us the stimulus package.
Sitting back and saying, okay, it's his first initiative, we got a honeymoon, The president should get what he wants.
That's how we got the stimulus.
Now, the fact of the matter is that these protests, people standing up to their congressman, has been something that has worked.
It has worked because it is real.
This notion that we shouldn't get in Congressman's face, nobody's getting in Congressman's face.
But damn it, I would if somebody's trying to ram a plan down my throat that is going to take away my frib freedom and liberty, and I'm an and I'm an American citizen.
I am going to scream about it, and I'm going to stand up and I'm going to do what I can to stop it.
What do you mean shouldn't get in their faces?
Nobody is getting in their faces.
They're standing up behind microphones, and they are shouting and they are passionate, but the members of Congress are many feet away.
Nobody is running up to podiums and getting in anybody's face.
But even if they did, it would be justified based on what this plan is attempting to do.
If you don't stand up and protest something like this, you're going to end up having it rammed down your throats, and people have figured this out.
That's how we got the stimulus.
It's how we got all these bailouts.
Nobody said a word.
Oh, we have to act civil.
And there's something else about this that really rubs me the wrong way, and I've mentioned this a number of times.
It seems to me, I never hear anybody on either side of the aisle, in the media or anywhere else, saying acorn needs to dial it back.
I never hear that the union people need to act a little bit more civil.
I never hear anybody criticizing the out-of-control Riball behavior that the left engages in at all times.
I never hear, whenever there are protests, the globalization protests, and these bombers take to the street and they broke their throw uh rocks through windows of buildings and so forth.
I never hear anybody say, you know, that's a bad tactic.
They they shouldn't be doing this.
They're they're only hurting their cause.
It's only when conservatives stand up with genuine passion and emotion and basically put their hand up and say, stop that people come out of the woodworkers, oh no, this is a bad tactic.
This is this is going to drive people away to the Democrat Party.
This is uh no, it's proving to be just the opposite.
Because what is real versus what is phony is on display here.
Jason, in Philadelphia, I'm glad you called, sir.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Rush, 20 year listener.
Thank you very much for being such a patriot.
I appreciate it.
Uh oh, sorry.
My point is um seven months ago, Barack Obama and the Democrats said they had a mandate based on 52% in the uh in the election, but now seven months later, 54% against it and we're all racist.
I don't know how they can quantify that 52% was a mandate, but now 54% against them means that we're all racist again.
They'd say they had a mandate if they had 10% supporting.
They don't care about mandates.
They don't care about public.
The only reason Obama cares about public support is is all presidents care about approval numbers.
In terms of needing public support to get this done, uh, they don't that that's that's in incidental to them.
If they had a way to ram this down our throats, regardless of what we want, they'll do it.
They are going to do it.
They are going to try.
They'll play word games, they'll say they're getting rid of the public option of going to co-ops.
They say they're gonna get rid of the death panels.
They can't get rid of either.
Not possible with this plan.
If they don't have a public option, there's no reason for them to do this.
The public options all they want.
Public options simply means government control.
Government makes decisions, government in charge.
They're not gonna give that up.
They're liberals.
This is this is who they are to Obama is.
So I guarantee you, now don't misunderstand, in the White House they're concerned, 54% want nothing to do with the health care bill now.
54% say doing nothing would be better than what Obama wants to do.
57% say the stimulus is bad and didn't help, maybe maybe making things worse.
They look at that and they'd love to turn the numbers around, but they're gonna do it with policy.
They're gonna do it with rhetoric.
They're gonna try to do it with the old standby, Obama and his gift.
As he said to Harry Reid, Harry, I have a gift.
So he's out there again today.
He's not there talking about Iraq and Afghanistan now.
But he's out there every day.
They still think that Obama has that kind of magic.
But he wants to build monuments to himself.
This guy's got an ego out the uh wazoo.
And so whether they have a mandate or not, they have the power.
He's in the White House.
The Democrats run the show in the House of Representatives.
And for the most part, they run the show in the Senate.
And so that's in fact, that's really what these town hall protests are all about.
The American people don't want it.
They know they live in a representative republic.
And when their representatives are totally unresponsive, they're going to hear about it, as should be the case.
Don't go away, folks, much more straight.
Back to the phones we go, Rush Limbaugh in Los Angeles at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
This is Scott Intulsa.
I'm glad you called, sir.
Hi.
Hey, Rush, how are you?
Fine and dandy, sir.
I appreciate you putting me on the air.
Minor doodos from Oklahoma.
Thank you, sir.
Listen, I'm calling to complain about the net effect of your take, your narrative on this health reform bill.
And uh really it culminated in him picking up a newspaper and hearing that they pulled the provision for end of life counseling out of the legislation.
My read on this, my attempt to kind of see beneath all the hype, the hype on both sides of it, what I learned about it was that's a great deal.
That's a great program.
Counseling for seniors, if somebody gets a uh terminal you know, prognosis from their doctor, Medicare doesn't cover going and sitting down and talking with the doctor about you know what to do next.
What's gonna how is this thing gonna play out?
Right now, if you're on Medicare, you've got to pay that out of your pocket.
The effects of you repeat and a host of other people repeating Betsy McKegie's line that what this amounts to is a panel of bureaucrats who will try to deny coverage, usher you into the shoots of euthanasia, and you know you know, send you off the edge.
All of that's except one thing, you mean Betsy McCoy, and I have not said that.
I have You have not repeated Betsy McCoy?
No.
Uh I have not used the word death panels except in quoting Sarah Palum.
I have talked about the reality of what's going to happen.
Here's here's here's what I have said.
In the first place, before I get to that, I do want to object to you.
I don't think the government has any business telling doctors that they're gonna sit and talk to people about end of life.
I don't think that's the government's job, or it's not a none of Obama's business or any bureaucrat that he would that he would uh could I interrupt you again right there and say we're we're talking about the provision where the government didn't force doctors or tell doctors, the provision clearly stated, and I read it myself.
Then why did they pull it out?
Why did they pull why did they pull it out of it so damn good they pulled it out because it is what people think it is.
Well, why do you think, Rush?
Why do you think?
Why do I think what?
Turn on a news program and not hear the word death panel.
Why do I think what?
Why do you think they took the provision out?
Why do you think they took it out?
Because it's because it was something the American people understood and don't want.
Very simple why they took it out.
Look at if I'm doing a town hall meeting, and I've got this provision in there, and I got this whole plan.
Now listen to me, Scott.
If I think this plan's great, if I think it's the greatest thing under the sun, and and my constituents don't understand it, I want every town hall meeting I can get.
And I'll spend six hours with them, and I'll tell them how good it is.
I'll tell them how they're wrong.
I'm because if I if I really think it's good for them, I'm gonna tell them.
But they don't know that this is not good for people.
That's why they pulled it out.
They tried to sneak it in, they tried to pull here's the practical result.
Forget the term death panel.
That was just a clever turn of phrase by Sarah Palin that really focused Obama and focused a lot of people.
But the way it works is this it's very simple.
This is what I've said, by the way.
We don't spend money on the healthy.
We spend money on the sick.
You can listen to everybody in government talking about health care, and the one thing they have in common is they all say we're spending too much money, and we can't keep this up.
We've got to find a way to cut costs.
We have to do it.
Okay, put those two things together.
We don't spend any money on the healthy, and we gotta cut costs.
That means what?
We got to cut costs on the sick.
So some people who are sick are not going to get covered, they're not gonna get treated.
But it's a it's it's simple mathematics and common sense.
Then if you have these end of life counseling sessions that you like, that you think are good because Medicare is going to pay for it.
Um, if we have these, then I guarantee the only reason to put that in there is because the government is going to have to decide individual case by individual case who's going to get treated and who isn't.
And the counseling is to deal with that.
Obama himself has said, no, I don't think a hundred-year-old woman should get a pacemaker.
She should get a pain pill.
We know what that means.
Loop them out and let them live the rest of their lives in a stupor.
They rather than be treated.
This is what it is.
And and besides that, why is it such a wonderful thing that Medicare would pay for this?
Whatever happened to people paying for their own stuff.
What they'll ever have to that concept.
If you want to go talk to a doctor about the end of life, if you want to get a counselor, then do it.
It's not like you're going in for a $55,000 operation on anything.
But you don't have to, you can you can do it with your family.
You can get your own living will, but you certainly do not want the federal government involved in who lives and dies.
And they and they're gonna be.
It's just it's not even a matter of death panels, it's just a matter of common sense the way this plan's gonna work.
And they pull it out of there in the Senate because the people have figured it out.
But don't worry, Scott, the House is leaving theirs in.
And it's gonna be a big fight when they go to conference if they ever get there.
Linda in Fargo, North Dakota, welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Russ.
Uh, I'm so thankful for the work that you do.
Thank you.
I'm from I'm from Canada.
Um, I've I've been in the states here for a year, and I've just noticed a huge difference between the health care system at home and the health care system here in my new home.
Um, I think the waiting times are the most um what I that's what I noticed at first.
I mean, usually in the doctor's office you have to wait, you know, one or two or three, depending if you have a doctor, maybe seven, depends.
Here I was surprised it actually caught in a couple minutes.
Um there are also I guess what I don't understand is that people I don't understand how a government, like how people can think that the government can um how they can be, I guess, take care of the uh the medical care system.
Because I I like seeing it on the other side is just it's so obvious to me, like to see to if the difference is just extreme.
Well, here's I think I think I can help uh people understand this.
Um we ask ourselves this question in America all the time, with all of the government programs that are failures and with all the hassles that people have to go through to deal with a government agency.
Like cash for clunkers, cash for clunkers, they've only reimbursed the dealers two percent.
I mean, I mean, it it it's it's they can't even run something as relatively small as that.
We all know the problem dealing with the Department of Motor Vehicles and everything.
But the reason people look at health care, or by the way, I don't think people now, you look at the numbers that protest, I don't think people do want the government in charge.
They do they don't want the government running it.
That's the great thing about this.
It's what it all means.
But the the reason that they considered it in the first place is because they bought the notion that health care is a right and that somehow it's going to be free.
You know, Obama's out there saying, yeah, we're gonna insure all these people and we're gonna get you better coverage and better treatment, we're just gonna tax a couple millionaires, and it's all gonna be hunky-dory.
And they're running around saying we spend six thousand, eight thousand dollars, whatever number they pull out of their um their their minds on a on on per person health care, and that purposely blurs the line between the private and public sectors.
The rhetorical trick will go a long way to aiding these Marxists in their desire to obliterate the private sector.
I mean, individuals in private companies may spend $8,000 or $6,000 or whatever on average per American per year, but the Obama socialists are offering the tempting lie that individuals will pay nothing.
That's the lure that they use, that it's going to be free.
That their beloved government's gonna cover it all.
Well, they will reduce spending to only $4,000 a year or $4,000 a person.
So who Suffers?
Sick Americans.
They're gonna reduce it.
This is all it's a rhetorical trick.
But the whole notion that you're gonna get improved health care for free, it was the original lure that people did mistakenly believe.
Folk, let me let me tell you what the most insidious part of this whole healthcare scheme is with any government plan.
All of these vast medical expenditures will become nothing more than government budget items.
We individuals will no longer s exist.
There will be a the relationship between a government and citizen will change forever.
We're gonna become budget items if these people get what they want.
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