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May 8, 2009, Friday, Hour #2
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It is hour number two of the Friday Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis, WBAP Dallas Fort Worth, proud Rush Limbaugh affiliate.
One of the oh man, six hundred and some radio stations pumping out every single day of the Rush Limbaugh Show.
A show to which Rush will return on Monday.
So my task is to get you into the weekend already roll, and uh we're going back to calls in just a moment at 1800-282-2882.
But let me lay out a layout a little more topical chum into the water, if I may, just a couple of things to uh enrich our experience together.
Some of them are, you know, breaking news stories and things that are going on into this morning's political headlines and but others are broad concepts that I like to roll out and see how far they go.
And let's let me give you one of these right now.
And then we're right back on the phones.
We've got a uh it's always a pleasure to talk to someone who has been waterboarded.
We'll do that in a minute, and um I'll compare his experience with a journalist who signed on to get waterboarded.
He said, Well, if I'm gonna write about it, I'll have somebody do it to me.
And I gotta respect that, but he came away with a conclusion that intrigues me.
And uh, we also have Brittany sit tight.
If you tell me you got a 19-year-old with some advice on how Republicans can reach the youth, I am inclined to pay attention.
But if I can ask you to pay attention to this for a couple of minutes, I'd love to know what you think.
Let's spend a moment talking about the big tent.
Indeed.
The last time I guess I heard the big tent invoked, it was when Arlen Spector in his moment of shame, and how great is it that he is now being uh just horribly brutally mistreated by his new friends uh in the Democratic Party, breaking promises to him, uh making him nearly sit in the men's room when they set out the committee seating charts.
Just delicious.
Hope you're enjoying your new uh buddies there, Arlen.
But he mentioned, you know, I came in and the Big Tent or Reagan in 1980.
Uh and he and he had warm memories of the Big Tent or what he perceived as the Big Tent, meaning a Republican party that welcomed a lot of views from from its elected officials, from its elected officials.
So I'm here to tell you, and there are a lot of people have said, I'm tired of the big tent, sick of the big tent.
Well, I have big tent fatigue as well, and I wonder how well we are served by it now.
And the evidence I have of this is that everyone on the left wants it to get bigger.
Nancy Pelosi, Colin Powell, like I said, everyone on the left wants it to get bigger.
Reach out more, reach across, reach to the center, reach to the left, reach to the planet Saturn, reach wherever, abandon your core values, distance from them, go do those things.
Well, poppycock.
Because what the Republican Party needs to do, and I'm the millionth person to say this, I'm not going to dwell on this, is to get some focus and rely on those core values.
Teach, not listen, as we've talked about this week.
We don't need a listening tour.
We need a teaching tour.
We've listened plenty, and we've listened to a lot of clap trap.
Now it's time to listen to our inner voices that say conservatism.
Be about that.
God knows the Democratic Party is about liberalism.
That's working out pretty well for them.
So let's be true to our beliefs and see how that works out for us.
Now, Big Tent, here's what I mean.
Does that mean that voters with a wide variety of views, somebody who's moderate on a couple of things, maybe not as conservative on a couple of things, that we don't want them to come vote Republican, don't want them to come, you know, be in the par-NO, please.
We'll take you.
Reagan took you, was glad to take you.
Of course, we'll take voters who are not uh, you know, uh uh ideologically monolithic.
We will take at this point, we'll take anyone.
But I mean, if if you're not so conservative on some fiscal things or not so conservative on some social things, but all other things being equal, you'd like lower taxes and would kind of like to win the war on terror.
Come on in.
Come on in.
We can talk on you know those couple of peripheral issues while you're here, you know, enjoying coffee here in the big tent.
But I want the big tent to be for voters, welcoming a wide variety of voters rather than expecting such a ridiculous menagerie of candidates.
It is time for the dismantling of the big tent to the degree that it means that anybody with any cockamy beliefs in their head that can manage to win a primary somewhere can come be a Republican standard bearer or uh or symbol of of where the party is.
Where I want the party to be is about fiscal and social conservatism.
Bam.
That's us.
Now, if you don't hold all those views, okay, but if you hold enough of them that what we're doing appeals to you, then please come on in, vote for our guys, and and uh we'll be happy, and we hope you will too.
If, however, you are so liberal on abortion, so liberal on taxation, so you know, squishy or liberal on any one of a number of other things that the Democrat candidate is just closer to you.
Well, guess what?
There's the door.
Don't let it hit you on the way out.
And that's the thing that nobody has the courage to do.
To tell some voters, you know what?
We might not be for you.
Because, oh, you must love me.
You must like me.
We must make all the Latinos love us so we cannot possibly talk about you know my God, I became Hispanic there.
I apologize.
I'm I'm channeling.
We uh we so we must make all the Latinos love us, so we must soften our immigration stance.
No.
No, some of the most impassioned feelings I've ever heard about strong borders have come from proud, law abiding Latinos, asking, what's going on here?
I did everything right.
I am from Mexico, Venezuela, Nicaragua, wherever.
I did everything right.
Who are all these people trying to come in and enjoy the same status as I've earned through breaking American law?
That should infuriate every Hispanic person.
Well, guess what?
It doesn't.
So how do we fix that problem?
Clarity, getting people who are slow to grasp this truth, why they should grasp it, or pander to the Hispanics who, for some peculiar reason, are soft on immigration.
I mean, come on.
One way you're true to yourself, one way you're consistent, one way you make some kind of moral and political sense, and the other way you just don't.
The party is either for lower taxes or it's not.
The party is either for smaller government or it's not.
The party's either for uh protecting the unborn or it's not.
The party's either for winning the war or it's not.
Those are very binary.
The switch is either on or off.
Boom.
Now there are some things that are not so black and white, not so cut and dried.
I know.
I know.
But generally speaking, if if while we're all sitting together throwing in our two cents about what in God's name to do in 2010 and 2012, keep it simple, stupid.
Remember that?
KISS.
Now, issues can be complex, but our strategy doesn't have to be.
Find conservatives who are upbeat, unapologetic, pleasant to be around, and send them out there.
Send them out there on a teaching tour, not a listening tour.
I'm tired of listening.
I'm tired of the party.
It's it's like the websites.
Oh God, you ever read an article or your local TV station?
They'll put up a um put up some story.
Maybe it'll be big, maybe it'll be small, and then your TV station or newspaper website will say, we want to know what you think.
Well, you know, when I'm reading that story, I don't so much want to know what every Shmo who's also logged in right now is thinking.
Let me read the story and get on with my life.
If I want to know what people are thinking, I'll listen to Talk Radio, thank you.
This is what we do for a living.
But we have an odd fetish that somehow we cannot be plugged in to a population.
We somehow cannot relate unless we we give off the that we're willing to sit there and just sort of listen and have our ears bent for God knows how long by somebody who just wants to beat you down with what they think ought to happen, bli blah blue.
And listen, I I want to be responsive to the public.
I mean, I'm not setting up some Machiavellian thing where you know, I know what's right and to heck with you.
Not not at all.
Not at all.
I'm gonna want to hear that.
I want to hear the individual plights of people with regard to how their lives would be affected by my policies.
I want to hear what auto workers think about my wish to let car companies fail.
And I want to spend time because they're gonna have concerns, and I want to listen to those concerns and tell them it's gonna be all right.
That you've got to let car companies fail if the marketplace provide it brings about their failure.
You cannot artificially prop them up because it denies those car companies the cleansing truth that actual failure can bring and the resulting buoyancy that can come when they retool, maybe get bought by somebody else and get back out there tanned, rested and ready to compete again.
So sure, there is some listening, but ultimately it's teaching.
Ultimately, it's getting the message across.
And so this big tent thing, I'm ready to kill it.
I believe it is a metaphor that is not serving us well anymore.
Nobody ever talks about this in the Democratic Party.
Oh, we need to expand ourselves to include pro-life people.
What?
No, nobody try to bring that up.
You know, in the the state party caucus in California.
You know, well, you know, I've been thinking about this, and maybe we need to expand our message and reach out to people who are actually uh, you know, hostile toward terrorism.
Cut off his bar tab.
So while I'm always glad to welcome voters to a into uh to have a Republican party that welcomes voters who are lots of different shades ideologically, if some of your shades run sufficiently to the left in terms of taxes, size of government, war, liberty, i if if you're sufficiently to the left, then go be a Democrat.
The water's fine in there for you.
The pool I want to fill in Republican land is a pool filled with the water of liberty and personal responsibility and low taxes, and and strong,
limited government, and really in the very short term, doing our damnedest to stop this poisonous agenda that has been jammed down America's esophagus for the last hundred and ten or so days.
And that doesn't mean I want to be negative.
I don't.
But in order to bring about the positives of liberty and of low taxes and of small government, in order to get to the positives of this, you've got to stop the negatives.
It's like health.
Your health, your doctor, you're looking out for your own health.
What are the two things that you need to do?
Promote the positives, good diet, exercise, clean living.
But also, if you get some horrible disease, you need to cure it.
And that might be what you need to do first.
You know, if you got a tumor, let's get the tumor out and then talk about whether you're, you know, eating a carrot stick and taking a walk.
First things first.
So that's my thoughts on the Big Tent.
Um I really don't want to hear those words much anymore.
And anybody who steps forward to say that Republicans ought to be, you know, re-erecting the big tent or or or trying to appeal to people of broader ideologies is a fool.
Is a fool, or maybe somebody who literally does not have the best interests of the party at heart.
I do.
Not just so Republicans can succeed.
Parties come and go.
Parties live and die.
It is not about Republicanism, it's about conservatism, which is the same today as it always was and will be the same tomorrow.
What it stands for never changes.
And as a bunch of people from the moronic observation of Arlen Spector, a party has gone too far to the right, gone too far to the right.
Would that that were true?
I wish to God we'd stuck to the to real conservatism through uh a few chapters in recent history.
Even under President Bush, whom I loved.
Man, talk about conservatism, you know, got sent to the back of the bus on borders, government spending.
Come on.
Oh, yeah, the party was way too far to the right.
For whom?
So that's my that's my plea.
That's my this is my quest is to set up a party that, you know, heaven forbid actually stands for reliable, consistent, upbeat, unapologetic conservatism.
Boom.
And just see how that works out.
1-800-282-2882.
There.
Okay.
Thank you.
I feel much better.
Uh, you folks get your time on the radio next on the EIB Network.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis filling in, and your calls are next.
Oh, very cool.
Very cool.
These boys Dutch, one of the great instrumentals when I was like a dorky in ten.
Hocus pocus by focus.
Sweet.
Sweet.
Mike informs me we have the polka version of this, and it'll probably open the next hour.
Your top instrumentals.
This ELO's fire on high.
Anything by the ventures, I guess.
And this has yodeling.
Yeah.
That's right.
But how many that's technically not a total instrumental because uh a little later on in this record, the guys Yodel.
So best we fade it down before we get to that.
Although uh smoking drum solo, though.
1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davison for Rush.
Rush returns on Monday.
All right, the time has come.
She has been patiently waiting and stands in Temecula, California, a 19-year-old young woman with ideas on how the GOP can reach the Ute.
Brittany, it's a pleasure to have you.
How are you doing?
Hi, very nice to speak with you.
Thanks.
Um, I'd like to give a little bit of a background, a few words, just so people know where I'm coming from.
I am 19.
I'm one of ten.
My parents immigrated here from Iraq in the 60s.
They were Catholic Christians, um, Chaldean Christians that were persecuted.
My family has a long history of battling Islamic extremists in the Middle East.
Wow.
So we have we have a really large history with that.
Those are credentials.
Yes, they are.
I mean, why I am I am duly impressed.
Family of ten, wow, Iraq of Iraqi descent.
I mean, that is your ethnicity.
Yes, they're Chaldeans.
Caldean is a small, small race in the Middle East in Northern Iraq.
Pardon me for misusing ethnicity.
I know Iraqi is not an ethnicity.
But well, okay, then go.
All right, then boy, I am ready to hear from your very learned perspective.
And nothing energizes me more than someone of, you know, Arabic descent in America with an eye towards some clarity on on how it's not about fighting Arabs.
It's not even about fighting all Muslims, just terror, and and your perspective intrigues me.
And so I know that's not all what your call's about.
So what is it about?
How can back of the GOP uh attract some folks like you?
And really fast, my two older brothers did serve in the military, so we've been there too.
God bless all of you.
Thank you.
Okay, so this is how Obama won.
The youth vote.
First of all, liberals are exactly like teenagers.
They never think anything through, and they move on impulse and emotion.
That's how teenagers work.
That's how I worked in high school.
I never, you know, with whatever I felt went.
And then um teenagers understand two words.
Cool, meaning rock bands and uh like actors, and they understand funny.
So the GOP doesn't they need to stop talking policy to teenagers.
I was I'm on my space there, I'm a Facebook person.
And I saw all the ads, and they were way too over the heads of my peers.
And I understand because I'm a talk radio junkie, I get it.
But my my buddies don't listen to talk radio.
They don't get the speech, they don't understand policy.
They understand that some comedian likes Obama, therefore they like Obama.
So I'm not saying we need comedians, but what we need are people who think like us, who are a part of the GOP, who love conservative conservatism, who love America, and who know what they're talking about, but get it across in a funny way.
This is all right.
Let's that let's pause because I want to evaluate and have and give you t time to go with somewhere else if you want to.
That is it's genius.
And if anybody's thinking, well, that's just crazy.
We don't need, you know, everybody be like, you know, John Stewart, Dennis Miller, I mean guys who bring substance to the table in a in a humorous vein, etc.
You our candidates are ultimately going to have to be serious-minded policy guys, but would it hurt to have them with a sense of humor and sort of seem kind of plugged into the popular culture?
What you describe is making conservatism cool, and you are completely correct.
And I think conservatism is awesome.
I mean, I went to the tea parties, it was fun stuff.
You don't get any cooler than hanging around with cool people who you know were in the military and all that jazz.
Yeah, yeah, and I'm not saying the politicians need to be the comedians.
I'm saying people, there's this guy named Steven Crowder, he's funny on YouTube.
He's got he's a conservative, and he's you know, he makes it logical but funny where it hits people under 25.
It really hit them.
And so then you're right, not that the candidates themselves need to be the embodiment of all of this hip new vibe, but just gets can we get some folks on our side, just some folks who are cool, who are funny, and who uh oh, by the way, in the midst of learning what they feel, have a worldview that's that's that's that's like yours.
In in about our final minute, your your story is so fascinating.
May I ask you just one thing.
Have you uh you're 19, uh have you ever set foot in Iraq ever?
No.
Okay, do you do you have a language?
I understand.
Does it mean something to you that the country of your parents' birth, I presume, uh is is now free to chart its own course, and wouldn't it be something at some point to to visit that place and have it be a free country?
Yes, I have relatives who who still live there, and I could tell you the stories of how happy they are.
They can walk out of their houses because the Marines are watching them.
I they sent me video tapes of our Marines watching over their villages, and they don't have to worry about anything.
I mean, I've got horror stories, and I've got wonderful stories.
Well, Brittany, my story is I gotta run.
But I thank you so much on so many levels.
God bless you, and uh Ed you've just really you've made the show.
You've and made my day.
God bless you.
That is Brittany, and that is wisdom.
Mark Davis, right back.
Who is sadly unable to continue the broadcast because Mamon is made good on a threat of providing the polka version of hocus pocus by just sort of let this roll for a couple of minutes?
The answer is yes, it is.
Thank you, Mike.
Hey, it's Friday, you know, and as I've said, if you take a look at current events, we laugh lest we cry.
So the Republic still hangs by a thread.
Uh we are probably in greater danger from terror because of the softness of the current administration, but sometimes you just got to have a chuckle.
All righty.
Well, combining whatever tone you like with the various stories of the day.
I'm Mark Davis filling in for Rush, Thrush Limbaugh Show for a Friday, and he will be back on Monday.
And the number, of course, is 1-800-282-2882-1800-282-2882.
Um somehow coming out of that, I really feel like I ought to throw out some talk show red meat.
Especially if we're if we're going to Star Trek reviews in the next hour, I definitely need to toss out some good mainstream talk show red beat.
President Obama voted in the Senate to provide additional funding for a program targeted for elimination by his budget that provides states a federal subsidy to offset the costs of jailing illegal immigrants.
So again, so the the base coat story here is the notion of jailing illegal immigrants.
The states it's kind of funny, I'm not a big fan of the federal guy.
I don't think federal money ought to go to the states for hardly anything.
Let states build their own roads, let states build their own everything, and we could thus reduce our taxes so much that the states would have everything they needed to build everything they wanted.
But if we're going to have money pouring out of Washington to the states, let's at least have it for good things, like keeping illegal immigrants imprisoned.
Prison space is tough in a lot of states, and so we're talking 400 million dollars a year.
It's called the state criminal alien assistance program.
And uh and they're gonna kill it, saving 400 million dollars.
That fiscal 2010 uh budget, uh, it is one of the largest non-defense discretionary cuts proposed in the president's budget.
It is popular with border state politicians in Capitol Hill making its elimination a tough sell to lawmakers, particularly from California.
And here's what's interesting about this.
You know who's pushed for additional funding for this program uh often?
Diane Feinstein.
And it's kind of funny because uh how it's a way in which you can intellectually and ideologically be incredibly soft on the borders, but when the time comes where you actually kind of have to get some votes from from San Diego, uh you don't uh destroy a program that helps your state keep in prison uh illegal immigrants who deserve to be there.
So anyway, it is called the state criminal alien assistance program.
And the um the Obama budget slices it.
Uh I mean slices it out, excises it, removes it.
It it's it's a program ectomy.
And and here's what's funny, because there are two things you can say about President Obama's mythical, well, not totally mythical, a tiny sliver of uh of budget cuts.
They are either A, so small as to be laughable, or B, they actually cut things that are good.
Uh uh uh uh on the Obama beat, you want something else?
Next Wednesday.
And in fact, you know something?
There are two things.
There are two things.
Let's talk about President Obama and two count them two universities.
And yes, one of them is Notre Dame.
Mm-hmm.
Here's the controversy that won't die.
There's a billboard story, because a president's coming to Notre Dame.
Yeah, and Catholic university, and he's walking in there, essentially wearing a sandwich board that uh d advertises how cavalier he is about the unborn.
And so there's an issue of whether, you know, this particular president needs to uh speak in Notre Dame.
Those who don't believe so wanted to put up a billboard that said, uh, you know, Barack Obama, he's pro-abortion.
You know, Notre Dame, how dare you honor him.
And we get into the lexicon on this again.
The billboard company wouldn't uh wouldn't run it.
So you gotta change the word.
You gotta make it pro-abortion choice.
Oh God.
And I I know because I get that.
I d I truly do get that.
I mean, the term is pro-choice.
I mean, I know and I get that, but that sounds so great.
Who's against choice?
It's choice.
Yeah, the choice to terminate a life that deserves to, you know, live.
Pretty, pretty dark choice there.
But it in may there's somebody can make a dictionary point there that I understand.
For example, uh, am I pro-waterboarding?
Well, you know, well, no.
I mean, pro waterboarding means I want everybody waterboarded.
Come on.
No, in certain circumstances, I'm willing to accept it as a valid interrogation technique.
Uh probably most pro-choice people would tell you, I mean, they don't actively want every pregnant woman who doesn't want the baby to get an abortion.
The responsible uh pro-choicer with a shred of a conscience uh should be thrilled uh every time a woman chooses life and chooses to either have the baby or put the baby up for adoption or whatever.
Uh that should not cause chagrin among pro-choicers.
Th they say they are about the choice.
That if that's what she wants to do, fine.
But if she wants to terminate that pregnancy, don't take away that choice.
So if those people with that belief would probably not like to be referred to as pro-abortion, as if they're actually rooting for the termination of the pregnancy in the case of every unwanted uh event.
So that was the billboard um controversy, but should the people have been able to say that the president uh was was not pro-choice or even pro-abortion choice, but pro abortion.
You know, uh when you stick up for infanticide like this guy has, you know, when I mean I I I believe there are I know some people who are pro-choice.
Who are thrilled if someone puts a baby up for adoption, who are thrilled if um if if someone chooses to keep the baby.
They're pro-choicers, they're good for the good.
Right.
They don't want terminate uh pregnancy to be terminated, but if that's what a woman chooses to do, she should have that right.
Blah, blah, blah.
So I know pro-choicers.
I've been around pro-choicers, pro-choicers are friends of mine.
This president, man, I woof.
There's some people I think who are so radical about this that they they do begin to give off a vibe of actually being pro-abortion.
Tiny stupid story, if I may.
There was a um concert, the Majestic Theater in Dallas.
It featured artists that I enormously love.
Graham Nash, Nancy Griffith, uh, Sean Colvin.
All of whom just, you know, granola eating earth shoe liberals from totally the get-go.
But great tunes, so I was on board, so I went.
And in fact, was it was in fact it was called the concert for choice.
It was about that.
I don't care, I get to see Sean Colvin.
Whatever.
I'll take the pamphlet and throw it away.
And also in attendance, though, was uh Gloria Steinem.
And it looked for a minute like I was actually gonna get a chance to interview Gloria Steinem.
And I'm at her thing, and it's and I I would have found a way to constructively and civilly get through hopefully some pretty challenging questions.
Well, she was suddenly unavailable.
I don't know.
I was the only like straight conservative man.
Oh, excuse me, I left somebody out.
The reason straightness is important.
Headlining, the indigo girls.
Now, let me tell you about Emily and Amy.
Uh they will if you're a limbaugh fan or whatever, you're not gonna agree with them politically about anything, but it is virtuosity like I've never seen on a stage.
They are truly incredible.
And uh so indigo girls take the stage at a crowd that was clearly just 80% uh flannel and wallet chain lesbians just rush the stage and you know, underwear's hitting the stage and blossoming out and dropping like parachutes around them.
It was a wonder.
It was a great show.
Didn't get to talk to uh to Barbara Streisand, but someone on my show that day said, knowing because I talked about it in detail, even more agonizing detail than I am now, and I said, I really look forward to seeing Sean Colvin, a magnificent woman, a great songwriter, and who also at that time happened to be about uh eight months pregnant.
And a caller asked me on the air, said, if you get to talk to Gloria Steinem, ask her if she's angry with Sean Colvin.
I said, What?
What about?
For having the baby.
I believe the caller was kidding.
Um, but the reason I tell that story is that there are some people who come across merely as pro-choice, and there are others for whom the termination of pregnancy is, uh as Rush and others have put it, is a sacrament.
That it's not just an option they wish to have uh offered.
Every once in a while you'll see someone who says, you know, abortion, hey, hey, got to think about that.
Really keeps those populations under control.
Probably better for the earth.
Didn't we have that recently?
Fewer people, better for the earth.
Yay, abortion.
Wow.
Now that's pro-abortion.
So anyway, so there's the Barack Obama Notre Dame thing going on.
And um and a big debate about that, I got an article about that.
But he's also going to Arizona State on Wednesday.
Arizona State on Wednesday, and the issue there is somewhat different, and I will tell you about it next.
Mark Davis sitting in for Rush on a Friday on the EIB Network.
It is the Friday, Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in.
Uh uh I trust me, the story of President Obama's Wednesday appearance at a college will take a lot less a lot less time to tell, even in my hands.
If you're going to see President Obama speak at ASU at Arizona State next Wednesday, uh sunblock, the university is holding the ceremony outside on a day when the temperature is supposed to be ninety-eight degrees, and so far it's like, okay, hey, it's Arizona State.
If you didn't want to have a commencement ceremony outside in the desert uh in the spring, don't go to Arizona State.
And there are plenty of wonderful reasons to go to Arizona State.
But little did they know, little did they know, that they would be honored by the president speaking at the commencement, and that's lovely for those who love that.
But there are some attendant security concerns.
Graduates are being told to show up four hours ahead of time.
Okay, but those are hail and hearty 21-year-olds, right?
Well, i there's there's just stories that uh and locally there and in Sun Devil Country, um people's eighty-one-year-old grandparents are saying, Well, you know, guess what?
I guess I can't go, because uh, you know, I want to see, you know, little Janie graduate, but I'd kind of like to not die.
So I don't, and I don't know.
And so what do you do about that?
I I you know what it goes to, I know it's easy to say, oh, Obama, he didn't care about you know and I uh whatever.
I and okay, what fine.
But here's the thing.
Every president, even presidents we may admire, uh, have to go through life knowing that wherever they choose to show up, uh it's an instant nightmare for everybody.
I mean, this is this is why it's uh, you know, it's why President Reagan, right, who's the favorite uh president ever of uh what we might call the religious right, Reagan.
How often did Reagan go to church when he was president?
Uh pretty close to never.
Because he just knew that if he walked across to St. John's there or walked across anywhere else, that the you know, it's like the minute they wake up that morning, you're like, Well, and they pick out a church they're gonna go to.
Well, the good news, bad news for for that flock.
The good news is, wow, Reagan's coming to church.
The bad news is uh it'll a nine-hour ordeal in view of when you got to get there and how long it takes you to leave.
So all right.
Speaking of uh such uh things, let's go to Palmetto, Florida.
Jack is there with a little thought about Republicans and religion and such.
Hey, Jack, Mark Davis, in for Rush.
How are you?
Hey, Mark.
Hi.
Uh, nice talking with you.
Nice talking to you.
Yeah, I just want to if the kin is big enough to include atheist conservatives.
Sure.
I actually don't consider myself an atheist.
I consider myself a deist like Ben Franklin and the thousand fathers.
They didn't know about the Big Bang back then.
They felt like God ground the clock, sit on the shelf, and stood back and watched his work.
The watchmaker God, that everything was indeed intelligently created, but after that, not so much divine intervention, and actually, and actually not so much Jesus either.
And that is and that's behind all that.
That's very founding fathers.
But even if you even if you show me a hardcore atheist.
I mean I mean, maybe somebody who just absolutely does who actively proactively says, I do not believe in God.
But I believe in lower taxes.
I believe in winning the war.
I believe in leaving abortion decisions to the states, then of course that person could be a Republican.
Absolutely.
I'm I'm a conservative, and if you cut me, I believe red, white, and blue.
Mm-hmm.
And and just I just think uh Beck has been wearing religion on his sleeve, and it it seems to me like Rush has been a little bit more Fox is also Boo.
Well, but back up.
Beck, I th it's kind of funny.
I'm uh the I'm very much a guest in somebody else's house, and Rush can do whatever he wants, but if I'm no no no, but here if I'm here uh in in his metaphoric chair, I don't really need to talk about other shows, but I'll gladly talk about his if something makes my eyebrow go off.
By what definition has Rush seemed to become more I mean more overtly religious to you.
I mean I know the man is he's a man of faith, but uh but uh he s doesn't trot that out on the show very much at all.
No, he doesn't.
But uh maybe I'm just sensitive because um you okay uh i evangelism.
Evangelism means you want to convert people to your belief.
As every religion seeks to do.
Yes, but uh show me one evangelistic atheist besides Madeline Murray O'Hare.
Uh well good point.
Well, you I don't even know if she was trying to convert people.
She was just a bitter, hate-filled, horrible person.
Yes, she was.
Um but but the but you are I guess you are on to something in the following regard.
Uh if of the atheists I know and have, you know, welcome to the show and talk to, they don't seem to lie awake at night wondering how many other atheists they can convert.
They they just want to be left alone to go not believe in God.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
I mean, and um and okay, whatever anybody wants to do.
Whatever anybody wants to do.
Hey, but you know, I still believe in saying God bless America.
Well, good.
Well, and I think by your own admission, you are yeah, you're you're not you're neither atheist nor agnostic.
You seem to actually have.
You you you're probably of deeper faith than uh the than a ton of people I could mention.
I have re I went to a private Christian school.
I have read the Bible, unlike a lot of people.
Mm-hmm.
And uh but I believe in science, and uh yeah, honestly, this this whole global warming thing, and and our dear chosen one president is like a religious fetish, too.
Now that's a religion.
Yep.
You have differed, you've dared to differ with the dogma.
Jack, I I have loved our time, and thank you very, very much.
I appreciate it.
I just pick up a smile on my face.
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I'm Mark Davis filling in, and let's get our final break of this hour done.
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Let's go to Redford, Michigan.
Becky, hi, Mark Davis in for Rush, and it's a pleasure to have you.
Hi, I'm Becky from Redford, Michigan.
So I hear.
And um my comment to your call screener when we uh talk about this big theory, and it's always the Republicans reaching out.
Look, um, I think you have to go to the root of the situation.
I teach in um one of uh Michigan's largest universities.
I'd rather not say which one.
No, that narrows it down to uh the the whole communications uh program um in our school as in other schools, it it's run by um the most you know radical of liberals.
No, and they're the ones who are training these little blondes who go on television as Republican strategists.
Not all of them.
I don't think with a broad brush.
So even a young conservative would have their skills mitigated or poisoned by having received a communications training from some radical left it there leftist there to either uh Spartan or Wolverine country.
I think that's one of the reasons why we're having trouble getting people to take a stand because they think, oh gosh, I'm gonna be politically incorrect.
I I understand.
Becky, let me scoot because I have to and thank you for that.
Here's the good news.
I think you have a good point.
The good news is take that person whose message has been, you know, gunked up, a conservative message in their head, gunked up by a liberal communications professor.
They get older, they get smarter.
And that's good news.
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