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May 1, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 1, 2009, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24 7 Podcast.
Well, it's good that I can make you smile in there, Mr. Snerdley.
Boy, I never saw such a dour, depressed look.
I said, What's bothering you?
Said the news every day.
It's just bad.
So what news did he say we're gonna get a younger liberal for 50 more years in the court?
I said something to Snerdley that I will say to you that brightened his smile.
And that is that Arlen Spector may have done us a favor by switching parties.
I'm going to explain this and lots of other stuff as we get going on Friday.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
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Anyway, open line Friday when we go to the phones, whatever you want to talk about's fine.
That's not the case the rest of the week.
But on Friday, I mean, this, folks, this is one of the the largest, greatest career risks anyone in major media has ever taken.
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I guess about 45 minutes ago, I'm sitting here minding my own business bothering nobody in the process of doing show prep, and I get uh I get an email from a drive-by media guy that I like, Chris Salizza, who writes uh the blog The Fix at the Washington Post,
and he says, hey, I'm I'm doing a story here on Souter and the and the Supreme Court nomination that Obama's got coming up here, and I want to know if uh if you think that the Republicans will be making a mistake by really opposing this, or should they should they not do anything?
What what what damage can the Republicans do to this?
And I'm paraphrasing the question.
I wrote him back and I said, you know, I I I look at all of this different template than you guys do.
I said, the fun for me is gonna be watching all the nut cases on the left go wacko trying to convince Obama to pick one of their own.
That's I mean, the Republicans, uh I told him the Republicans can, you know, that any time they seriously contrast themselves with Obama, I think it's a win-win for them.
But I said, you're focused on what the Republicans are gonna do.
I thought where where did when did it change that you don't focus on the people who have power?
I mean, you continue to look at the Republicans here, but the Democrats are the ones that have power, and the real fun for me is gonna be watching all these wacko fringe nutcases from the blogs and everything else start pressuring Obama to pick somebody like Ward Churchill.
Now, I we've got some great audio sound bites to what Obama thinks of the court anyway, that's coming up on the program today.
I also told Chris, I said I'm also she gonna keep a sharp eye to see if his nominee has a tax problem because that seems to be standard operating procedure uh for Obama cabinet picks, and now we'll see if it holds for Supreme Court nomination.
The search will be on for a Supreme Court nominee who has a tax problem.
And and Supreme Court Justice David Souter leaving the Supreme Court in June.
So all the liberal eyes now turn to Obama for a replacement, a name, his first appointment destined to be reported, by the way, whoever he picks.
Just like Gibbs, the greatest PR guy, the greatest spokesman ever, whoever he picks, we're gonna hear that it's the smartest, the best.
Well, nobody could have ever found a person this good and this qualified to be on the Supreme Court.
We all know the nominee is gonna be a liberal.
I mean, that's that's a given.
But will it be an African American liberal?
Will it be a female liberal?
Will it be an African American female liberal?
Or will it be an African American female liberal from Chicago?
Or will it be a Latino?
Latina, I should say it, that Hispanic woman.
Now, the the early betting right now is on Sonia Sotomayer, who is Hispanic.
Uh, And that that's but yes, it's a little early to go on that stuff.
As I say, uh whoever, whatever names surface, or gonna be some leftists unhappy about it.
Uh, and they'll they'll guard and you now you have to understand, too, that when liberals start choosing nominees to the Supreme Court, they don't necessarily go find people who have any knowledge of the law.
Obama looks at the Supreme Court.
Well, you'll hear this coming up in the sound bites.
Obama looks at the court, and he wants people who have the proper feelings.
He wants people who empathize with the downtrodden.
Uh if they know the law, so much the better.
But they don't, and you know, a Supreme Court justice does not have to be a lawyer.
Supreme Court Justice does not have to have ever argued a case in court.
Supreme Court Justice does not have to, Supreme Court Justice can wear $540 tennis shoes like Michelle Obama wore at a feed the poor thing the other day.
Yeah, they said parrot Lon Vin is that the French Dawn, you would know how do you pronounce the French fashion house L A N V I N Vin.
Anyway, sh she wears some t-shirt, uh, some tennis shoes there that the cost apparently, according to the New York Daily News is $540 a pair while she's out there feeding the poor.
And they asked her office about come on, they said they did they they snorted, it's just shoes.
Yeah, it's just shoes.
You can buy a pair of kids that look about the same for 15 bucks.
They don't quite look the same, but they're close to looking the same.
Now, uh, no, fifteen.
Let me find let me find the I got it right here.
I've got a uh Cir5, I'm saying $35 uh champion canvas blue multi kids.
Right in here.
And they're purple and they're light blue and they're yellow, then you can pick your colors, and 35 bucks a pair, as opposed to 54.
But remember now, she's she's beloved, and she's it's it's it's his shoes.
It's just shoes, they say.
By the way, if Barack Obama's press conferences were an actual television show, they would be canceled.
In February, for if February 9th, the Soto uh uh the the pseudo State of the Union address 49.5 million watched.
His March 24th primetime press conference, 40.4 million watched, down from 49, and Wednesday night, 28.8 million.
He's down from 49 and a half million to 28.8 million uh in since February 9th.
Um if this was a reality show, it would be in trouble.
Now, if the press actually asked some tough questions at these things, the ravings might come back.
Since that's not gonna happen, the Obama primetime press conferences are in trouble, regardless what the critics and the media say.
It was said to have been an unbelievable performance, enchanting, dreamy, brilliant, steamy even, but fewer and fewer Americans are watching.
Boy, have you uh have you noticed, folks, the outrage today from several quarters over the Chrysler deal, and it's about what we touched on yesterday, Obama dumping on the hedge funds and dumping on the debt holders.
Oh, there's some real anger about this today.
I'm gonna try to help help you make sense of this.
It can get kind of convoluted.
One of my talents, of course, is making the complex understandable.
I'm gonna give that a shot.
I'm also gonna explain to you with the help of a uh an attorney who has a blog.
Uh his name is um Michael Dorf.
Cornell Law School.
His uh blog is Dorf on Law.
He had a post a couple days before Sutter's retirement was in play.
So his post has nothing to do with suitor quitting, but it's all about how Arlen Spector changing parties and thus leaving the Senate Republican side on the uh Judiciary Committee may now actually help the Republicans filibuster nominees in the committee and prevent any of these nominees from getting out of the committee.
You to break a filibuster, the law says the Senate rules say you have to have one member of the minority vote with the majority.
Well, that surefire vote was Spectre, and he's gone.
So the Republicans, the remaining Republicans on the committee, if they wanted to, if they wanted to hold firm, they could lock up whoever the nominee is in the committee with a quasi filibuster.
The weak link now, and this is not all that encouraging.
The weak link is Lindsay Gramnesty.
And Lindsay Graham is the remember was one of the gang of 14.
But uh if if if Lindsay Gramnesty can be made to hold firm, it's just it's something that could happen.
It's it's a possibility if the Republicans want to play the game that way.
I'll give you the details of this.
Lots of things happening on the program today.
You sit tight, we'll be back and continue after this.
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Open line Friday.
Let's go to the audio sound bites, and let's let's listen to what the drive-by's are saying as it regards the Supreme Court opening created by the announced retirement of David Souter.
We have a montage here today.
Robin Roberts of ABC, George Steffi Stephanopoulos of ABC, Chuck Todd from NBC, and Chris Wallace of the Fox News Channel talking about who Obama might pick.
It's widely expected that this election will be a woman.
President Obama has said that he wants to add another woman to the court.
I would say the leading candidate is Judge Sonia Sotomayer.
She would be not only a woman, but the first Hispanic.
But the Hispanic community really would like to see the first ever Hispanic Supreme Court justice.
A lot of pressure to appoint a woman, a lot of pressure to appoint a Hispanic, the first Hispanic.
How about a twofer, Sonia Sotomayer, uh, an appeals court judge, an Hispanic woman.
You heard it here first.
Well, it it's the pressure already being brought to bear according to the drive-by is for an Hispanic woman.
The pressure, it must be unbearable for Obama.
The pressure being brought to him.
By the way, somebody sent me a note during the break saying I mispronounced Sonia Sotomayor's name.
That her name is actually pronounced Sonia Sotomayor.
Uh not as in mayor, it's spelled S-O-T-O-M-A-Y-O-R.
These guys all pronounce it Sotomayor, as I did, but I'm told it's pronounced Sotomayor.
Regardless, we're covering our bases.
Who is she?
She is a judge now on the Court of Appeals.
I'm not sure which circuit she's on, but she um she's one of these judges that allows her personal views to be a factor in the way she decides cases.
She uh gave a speech at Berkeley in 2002.
She said she believes it is appropriate for a judge to consider their experiences as women and people of color in their decision making, which she believes should affect our decisions as judges.
And that's right up Obama's alley.
That's, as you will hear uh in the program today, that's exactly the kind of judge Obama wants.
In uh recent case, Ricci versus DeStefano, Judge Sotomayor was chastised by another Clinton appointee, Jose Cabranis, for going to extraordinary lengths to dispense with claims of unfair treatment raised by firefighters.
Judge Sotomayor's panel of judges heard a case raising important questions under Title VII, equal protection law, but attempted to dispose of the firefighters' arguments in a summary order until called out by Judge Cabranus, the Supreme Court has agreed to review the case.
So anyway, that's that's the big name.
There are other names on the list, too.
Uh if you're looking at women, Elena Kagan, uh Diane Wood, uh.
We'll see.
But it it's not it's not gonna change the balance of anything, folks.
I mean, Suter, for the most part, votes with the libs.
Whoever Obama picks is going to be a lib, probably with a tax problem.
And uh so the balance won't be upset.
It's just that we got to get a younger lib.
But we all knew this.
I mean, this is the exact kind of thing is going to happen uh on uh Supreme Court nominations, what with Obama uh winning the presidency.
Now, all this talk about about Souter retiring and the fight over his replacement and so forth.
There is a uh, you know, it's conventional wisdom was that that uh Arlan Specter defecting to the Democrats put them close to a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, which would allow Obama to just bail skate through his agenda.
And on most subjects it appears to be true.
However, Spectre's defection may actually end up giving Republicans the ability to filibuster judicial nominees at the Judiciary Committee level so that the nominees never get out of committee.
Now, those are big ifs, but it's possible.
Here's the explanation from Professor Michael Dorf of Cornell Law School on his blog, Dorf on Law, and this written two days before Souter announced he was quitting.
Does Arlan Specter's defection from Republican to Democrat strengthen the president's hand in Congress?
Perhaps overall, but not on judicial appointments, because breaking the equivalent of a filibuster in the Senate Judiciary Committee requires the consent of at least one member of the minority, in this case the Republicans.
Now, before today, Spectre was likely to be that one Republican who would vote to break a filibuster on the Republican side, but he's gone.
Here's here's the um here's the rule.
Senate Judiciary Committee rule.
Bringing a matter to a vote.
The chairman shall entertain a non-debatable motion to bring a matter before the committee to a vote if there is objection to bring the matter to a vote without further debate.
A roll call vote of the committee shall be taken.
And debate shall be terminated if the motion to bring the matter to a vote without further debate passes, with ten votes in the affirmative, one of which must be cast by the minority.
Now, this is interesting.
Specter, Spector could allow a nominee out of committee if Spectre was a member of the Republican minority, but as part of the majority, he's just another Democrat vote.
Now, here are the other Republicans on the Judiciary Committee.
Orrin Hatch, Charles Grassley, John Kyle, Jeff Sessions, Lindsay Gramnesty, John Cornyn, and Tom Coburn.
The weak link, obviously, is Lindsey Grahamnesty.
It was one of the uh a member of the gang of 14.
But if Lindsey Gramnesty chose to stay the course and vote with the Republicans, they may not be able to stop runaway spending or any of that, but they may be able to stop judicial nominations.
Spectre may have ended up handling handing the Republicans a gift in this regard.
Now, folks, admittedly, this is a bit of a long shot because this is going to require that the Republicans have the fortitude to even do this, to even try it.
Because if they did, if they essentially filibustered the vote in the Judiciary Committee, you the media is going to be all over these.
I mean, it is going to, it's it's going to be like Dunkirk.
It's going to be like Hiroshima.
It's going to be like Nagasaki.
I mean, nuclear ammo is going to rain down on these guys if they try it.
But it's possible they could do it.
And if so, how how how now you might be thinking, well, it is change the rules.
Well, how likely is it that they'll change the rules?
They adopt the rules at the start of a congressional year.
They can't be amended, but it's a tough thing to do.
And Dingy Harry, he's already cooked his goose there when he's uh with his uh insistence on rules regarding the seating of Roland Burris.
Uh the renegade replacement for Obama in the Senate is nominated by Blago.
Uh Rod Blagoyovich.
So fascinating to watch and and and learn all the uh possibilities here.
Uh in uh in the process here of uh stonewalling any particular judicial nominee that the Republicans choose to filibuster or stop.
Next up is is Chrysler and folks.
Actually, no, let me let me not start this now because we got a couple of minutes before the break.
Let's go to Soundbite number four.
This show you that the as the way the libs look at judges, Supreme Court or otherwise, it's all about identity politics.
On today's show today, Matt Lauer talking to Chuck Todd.
Now, why don't we take these two things and combine them?
The pressure to appoint a woman, the pressure to appoint an Hispanic.
We look at somebody like Sonia Sotomayor, who is an Hispanic woman, a federal appeals judge.
What are her chances, old Chuck?
Well, I think a lot of people look at him and they they seem to be pretty good.
She's uh both uh checks a lot of boxes on the academic front.
She's uh been on the federal bench quite a bit, so she certainly has the qualifications.
Uh the background is very important.
We heard President Obama as candidate Obama talk about somebody who didn't necessarily grow up of privilege or grew up in the academic world, and so she does check all the correct boxes.
So you see, it is exactly, as I said at the top of the program.
Judicial qualifications are not the primary concern.
Empathy, feelings, uh identity politics.
Gotta go get a woman.
Gotta go get an Hispanic woman.
Now, this is this is the media speculation here, and the media is attempting obviously to shape this.
And we don't know to what extent the Obama White House is leaked.
Yeah, if anybody, Sonia Sotomayor's name.
But you can see that clearly there's a steamroller effect here gathering for for her nomination, and nobody's talking about her legal qualifications.
These no that guy, that side's not.
They're talking about the things that you notice about her when you look at her.
She's a woman and that she's an Hispanic, and somehow that's all you need to be qualified.
Okay.
So according to the Obama administration, folks, we are now profiling candidates for the Supreme Court.
They have to check all the right boxes.
That's that's what uh Chucker Todd said at uh at NBC at Sonia's Sotomayor.
She checks all the right boxes.
Profiling, bad for law enforcement, but good for judicial selection.
Maybe Chuck or Todd can tell us when it's appropriate to use race and gender when it's not.
I guess it's perfectly fine for liberal Democrats to use race and gender and make sure they check all the right boxes.
In other words, profile.
So profiling.
This is what I meant.
This is what I meant when I said the fun for me is gonna be watching all these liberal groups go nuts advocating for the people they want Obama to pick.
And they're gonna go nuts on the basis of identity politics and uh profiling and all that.
Remember when George W. Bush appointed Alberto Gonzalez to attorney general, the first Hispanic ever.
Alberto Gonzalez was attacked.
Bush got no credit for the appointment with the media.
When Bush's father appointed the second black to the court, same thing.
It wasn't a real Hispanic, and Clarence Thomas wasn't an authentic black guy.
So both Clarence Thomas and Alberto Gonzalez under attack from day one, but now the Obama administration profiling for Supreme Court nominations.
Let's see what kind of scrutiny Obama's nominee gets.
I can tell you there won't be any scrutiny.
What we're gonna get.
We're gonna get why this is the smartest woman, or smartest Hispanic, or smartest, whatever they pick, ever.
This is the most qualified judge ever.
Oliver Wendell Holmes is on third base compared to this person.
It's just gonna be the same hype that we got about Robert Gibbs.
Well, there's never ever been a better press spokesman, press secretary than that idiot.
It's gonna be the same.
Nobody's scrutiny.
To give you here, illustration.
This happened today on Scarborough's show on PMS NBC was talking to the um I guess Tavis Smiley, he's on PB.
He checks all the boxes too.
Tavis Smiley's male, he's black, his minority, and he works PBS.
So Tavis Smiley, perfect guest for NBC, checks all the boxes.
And Scarborough said to Tavis Smiley, Tavis, let's talk about identity politics.
They're good Marshall replacing the court by Clarence Thomas.
Do you think that African Americans deserve to have a justice on the court that represents the majority of their Joe?
Joe, please say you didn't ask that.
Joe.
Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.
That's I don't care who the guest is.
What do you do?
I love Joe Scarborough.
I don't.
I asking Tavis Smiley.
Do you think that African Americans deserve to have a justice on the court that represents the majority of their Joe?
You got a book coming out on conservatism, and you ask that.
Anyway, here's what Tavis Charlie smiley, which again, perfect guest for MSNBC.
If he checks all the boxes, he's black, the minority, and works at PBS.
Here's his answer.
I think that every president ought to consider how the court ought to be balanced.
As an African American, I will sit and tell you that I do not agree with there's almost nothing that Clarence Thomas has ruled on.
I think I can think of one case where he would on in a cross-burning case, which shock the heck.
I mean, I almost went to full cardiac arrest when he came down on the right side of this cross-burning case, but it was in fact a cross-burning case, and my thing is if you can't get that right, Justice Thomas.
Having said that, there is an African American on the court.
And if identity politics are going to play here, there is not a Hispanic on the court.
And I don't think you ought to, you know, pick and choose based upon ethnicity.
But I think it is true, though, that we live now, Joe, in the most multicultural, multiracial, multi-ethnic America ever, and that everybody in this great country deserves to see himself or herself represented in their court system.
That is that is just stupid.
That is that is a perfect illustration of what the hell is wrong with the whole culture and the whole country.
Uh Tavis, you're you're you you're your your Clarence Thomas remarks are just embarrassingly naive and ignorant.
Asians don't have anybody in the court.
I don't hear them complaining.
I don't, I I even beyond that, though.
Just he goes, he says here, I don't think we ought to do identity politics, and then goes on to lay out how we need to have virtually every folks.
We got so many mutts in this country now.
There's been so much, I don't know how you we're not just Asians anymore or white Americans.
I mean, everybody is something of we've all got so much the the I know we're just whatever happened to concept, we're all just Americans.
Why and what about finding people with the best qualifications?
This is, after all, the supreme court.
Everybody ever found a a logical reason to go out and find the best judge, the best candidate, the best American you can find.
Well, now we're being told that it is not only okay, it is required that we profile.
And in this opening, we gotta get we we gotta make we gotta we gotta get the the the female Hispanic on there.
We gotta get the female, it's just it's to listen to this stuff is just I mean, I sit here and laugh about it, but it's just it's it's a great illustration of what the left has done to our entire culture.
Merit doesn't matter.
Pandering to minorities is everything.
Now here's Obama.
Now let's this is July 18th, 2007.
This is uh in Washington during the annual planned parenthood conference.
Obama said this about the Supreme Court.
We need somebody who's got the empathy to recognize what it's like to be uh a young teenage mom.
Uh the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor or African American or gay or disabled.
Well, this is I mean, this is two years ago, year and a half ago now.
That's President Obama before Planned Parenthood, so we need somebody with empathy.
We uh that knows what it's what this has nothing to do With legal cases.
Yep.
Here.
Well, I'm sure we can find one.
Now here's what we need.
We need a uh teenage single mother who is gay, as a lesbian, uh, who's dirt poor, African American, and disabled.
Or if we can't find that person, we need a bigger Supreme Court.
So you're gonna find, I'm sure we can find in any blue city a poor minority teenage mother who can barely get around.
Disabled, uh, lesbian, had the kid with uh surrogacy or artificial insemination.
I'm sure we can find him.
You know they're all over the place.
Uh we could find one.
Whether they're qualified to be on the court doesn't matter because their qualifications, Obama just said what they are.
Now here he is again in Las Vegas.
This is November 2007, and it's uh presidential uh Democrat presidential uh debate, Barack Obama and the moderator Wolf Blitzer have this exchange about the Supreme Court.
Sometimes we're only looking at academics or people who've been in the courts.
If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that's the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.
Fine.
That means we need to get criminals, too.
I mean, obviously, if you're criminal, the system hasn't worked for you.
So we need to get lawbreakers.
We need to add lawbreakers to the to the other list's uh identity.
Who who's gonna vet these people?
You know where I'll tell you where we're gonna get the next if if it's not Sonia, I mean Sonia Sotomayor may be good, but she doesn't fit all this stuff.
She is sadly lacking in the qualifications Obama himself has laid out.
It seems to me that to find the next Supreme Court justice or nominee, we're gonna have to go to the Jerry Springer show, and he's the guy that's gonna vet them.
What soundbite did I leave off with?
What?
Whoa.
We're up to number eight, so I left off with number uh seven.
Let's get play number seven again.
Here's Barack Obama, November 15, 2007, Democrat debate, presidential debate.
Uh Wolf Blitzer and Obama have this exchange.
Sometimes we're only looking at academics or people who've been in the courts.
Yeah.
If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that's the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.
Yeah, and he also said he wants somebody to be poor.
Clarence Thomas grew up poor, uh, Mr. President, just to throw that in.
Now, uh there's some other people.
Uh by the way, Sonia Sotomayor is Pretorican.
This is going to make the Mexicans and the Cubans angry.
There will not be unity here on the Hispanic side.
Sonia Sotomayor is Proto-Rican, and that's ignoring the Mexicans.
And that's ignoring the Cubans.
And by the way, folks, since we want people, uh he says, uh what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have system not work for you.
We gotta get an illegal alien on the Supreme Court.
We need an illegal immigrant on the Supreme Court.
They fit the definition of what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them.
The court is looking at foreign law more and more.
Shouldn't we have a representative from the United Nations on the Supreme Court?
And I find it curious, folks, I find it very, very curious, that um nobody has mentioned a Muslim or an Islamist.
I mean, they live here too.
Uh, and they suffer, as we all know, vast uh discrimination.
So what Obama's really looking for here, folks, what he really means with all these comments, he's looking for a radical who is a minority who will use the court to advance Obama's political agenda.
That's what in there in the being serious about it, this is what it all boils down to.
If he's looking for a criminal, then there's no better nomination.
I mean, then you guys talk about a guy who checks all the boxes.
Al C. Hastings, black, Former judge, impeached as a judge, now member of Congress, gen, he's a confirmed criminal.
And criminals, you know, the system's not worked for him.
We need a criminal.
We need an illegal immigrant.
We need a Muslim Islamist.
Uh we need a single mother uh who's gay, uh very poor.
I mean, this is these these are the qualifications Obama through.
It's looking worse and worse for poor old Sonia Soto Mayor as the day goes on here.
She simply doesn't check enough boxes.
Chuck Todd says he checks all the boxes because we listened to Obama describe his own qualifications.
Sonia Sotomayor is a Piker.
Here.
Let's go to May 11th, last year.
CNN's late edition, Wolf Blitzer interviewing Obama.
And Blitzer says, are there members or justices right now upon whom you would model, you would look at?
Who do who do you like?
What I do want is a judge who is sympathetic enough to those who are on the outside, those who are vulnerable, those who are powerless, those who can't have access to political power, and as a consequence can't protect themselves from being dealt with sometimes unfairly.
See, wants a judge sympathetic enough to those who are on the outside.
So it's all about an advance get Sololinsky.
Just go get resurrect Sololinsky.
Exhume the body and nominate him.
Because that's what this is.
Rules for radicals.
Put one of these clowns on the Supreme Court.
And the more boxes you can check off on the identity politics side, uh the uh the better.
Now, I have a see I told you so here from my own program October 28th last year.
I've I this is what I said on this program about then Senator Obama's philosophy of the Supreme Court.
You know, legal justice is an entirely different thing than political and economic justice.
And Obama wants the court to be concerned with economic justice.
He wants legal cases that end up before federal courts, including the Supreme Court.
He wants judges on those courts to look at economic and political aspects of the case, not the legal definition of justice.
Because the legal definition of justice is not what he's interested in.
Economic justice, punishing achievers, labeling them guilty when they haven't done anything.
Returning the nation's wealth to its quote-unquote rightful owners.
And wherever he can advance that agenda, Supreme Court's a great place, these people end up for life there.
So let's let's go back to 2001.
Chicago FM radio station, the host interviewing State Senator Obama, and her question, we're joined here by Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator from the 13th District, senior lecturer in a law school, University of Chicago.
And this is what Obama said about the redistribution of wealth.
If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples, so that uh I would now have the right to vote.
I would now be able to sit at a lunch counter and and order, and as long as I could pay for it, I'd be okay.
But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in the society.
There you have it.
That's Barack Obama eight years ago in Chicago on an FM radio station.
Redistribution of wealth, economic justice.
That's the court.
That's what it's to be used for.
In this next bite, he is very upset.
The Warren Court was not radical enough.
As radical as I think people tried to characterize the warrant court.
It wasn't that radical.
It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution.
At least as it's been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you.
Says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.
And that hasn't shifted.
And one of the tragedies of The civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused.
I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change.
And uh in some ways we still suffer from that.
So there you have it, his own words, and he's not changed.
Redistribution of wealth, returning the wealth of the nation to its rightful owners.
That's the purpose of judges.
That's the purpose of courts.
And here again, he addresses this, you know, he talks about how Al-Qaeda is not constrained by Constitution.
Here he explains what that means.
He feels constrained by a constitution, series of negative rights.
It says what the government can't do, what the government can't do with the camp, can't but the constitution doesn't say what the government can do.
And he wants to change that, and he wants to have judges on the Supreme Court that are going to facilitate and implement his radical social agenda has nothing to do, per se, with justice, legal justice, or the law.
We will be right back.
Now, interesting here, folks, the way Obama looks at filling uh openings on courts.
Judges who feel in experience rather than judges who use the law.
I think you could look at the Chrysler bankruptcy that Obama put together and say the same principle.
We need to solve the problems of Chrysler and General Motors on the basis of feel, not the law.
And in that way, the bondholders get shafted and they get called out as a bunch of selfish SOBs by the president.
I'll explain all this when we come back.
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