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April 23, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 23, 2009, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yes, indeed.
America's Anchor Man is away today, and this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein sitting in.
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It's an honor to be here uh for the next uh three hours.
It's uh it's post-Earth Day, post-Earth Day.
Uh the day the day I think that I think that actually is uh is that a holiday in Massachusetts?
It certainly should be.
Uh anyway, it's the uh the day after uh Earth Day, the day after all the uh all the festivities, uh President Obama and Bill Clinton uh got together for Earth Day and they celebrated it by planting trees.
This is from the uh New York Post.
Clinton started things off before the first sapling was planted near the muddy Anacostia River, when clean shoed Obama complained that somebody had forgotten his boots.
Quote, see your light on your feet, Clinton quipped to the small crowd, which included Michelle Obama.
Obama came back with, quote, I think the president has pretty good shoveling skills, which got a laugh from Clinton.
Perhaps trying to nudge Clinton along.
Obama looked at the hole Clinton had dug, then offered, Mr. President, I don't think you can do any better than that.
Clinton said goodbye, but then started work on another hole.
You know, actually Obama had a good point when he was mocking the depths of Bill Clinton's hole there, because uh certainly when it comes to digging a hole, no one can compete with uh Obama.
I think for Earth Day.
For Earth Day, he should have dug the world's biggest hole and then thrown a teeny weenie uh little itzy bitsy sapling way down in the bottom of it.
Uh anyway, I like that Clinton line.
Clinton said uh good quote, Clinton said goodbye, but then started working on another hole.
Uh you know, I l I love uh I love Earth Day.
I love it, I love it.
I always spend the day planting all these trees.
Uh I live in uh a township in New Hampshire that's 90% forested.
Uh but you can never have too many trees, I uh I feel.
I like that uh bumper sticker you see in Vermont all the time.
Uh more trees less bush.
Bush is gone now.
Bush's history, but they're still driving around with the more trees less bush bumper sticker.
So on Earth Day, I always like to plant some trees, uh, you know, get the tree cover in my town up to maybe 97, 98%.
So I'm out all day in the yard planting trees uh for Earth Day, but then you know, it's the morning after the holidays over, and it's time to take down the trees.
Uh it's it's a big pain in the neck having to take down the trees the day after uh Earth Day I always find.
And so uh so yesterday, and here's a tip for for you environmentalists out there.
I just planted for Earth Day uh artificial trees with the nice little silvery tinsley branches, uh, and then you can just take them down and uh and put them up in the attic till next year's Earth Day.
And so uh you will be you'll be able to recycle the trees, which will be environmentally friendly.
Uh and of course we always have the Earth Day holiday lights uh on them.
You know, not that lousy thing that Edison invented, but those uh environmentally friendly bulbs, the uh the ones that look like curly fries, whatever they're called.
Uh but you know the earth the Earth Day holiday lights.
It's always the same.
You switch them on, and then they all blow, uh and usually all over the sweet little old lady who lives next door, and she comes down the terrible mercury poisoning.
Uh, but I think it's worth it because it uh because it raises awareness.
Uh and I always like to give the kids something on Earth Day too, to make them more aware of all the endangered species in the world.
So uh see yesterday I gave my little girl a uh Mexican green cheeked parrot and my little boy a black rhino from uh East Africa.
Uh I thought they were very appropriate uh Earth Day gifts, but you know what what kids are like?
They think the animals are cute for a bit, uh, and then they get bored, and you know, my son wants to take the uh take the black rhino back and see if we can swap him for an iPod, and the store says, no way, all sales are final.
Uh, you know, a black rhino isn't just for Earth Day, it's for life.
Uh so it's the usual post-holiday routine: black rhino burgers, black rhino soup, black rhino sandwiches, uh black rhino confi on a bed of Amazonian mahogany leaves if you've got John Kerry coming over for dinner.
For the next two weeks, solidly.
Uh just uh broken up by the occasional uh tomato and green cheek parrot uh pizza.
But we always we always anyway, we always round out Earth Day, always round out Earth Day the same way, by going to the big Sierra Club, Earth Day Dinner.
I love it, everyone's there, Al Gore, the uh the UN Sustainable Development Commission, they're all there.
Truly a wonderful moment uh when uh Natalie Cole comes in and sings her famous anthem to industrial uh development, uh unsustainable, that's what you are, and uh and sixty-five thousand of the world's most eligible environmental alarmists all crowd the dance floor to glide uh cheek to cheek uh under a uh a glitter ball of uh premium ox dung, especially flown in from a deforested sub-Saharan dust bowl.
Uh it's always very moving sight.
The glitter the glitter ball glitters because of the uh 120,000 uh flies buzzing around it, uh their gossamo wings uh dappling the environmental alarmists below in a in a myriad of enchanting shadows.
It's uh it's a wonderful evening.
Uh and I'm only sorry that President Obama couldn't be there, but he was doing his bit uh for Earth Day.
He was doing his bit for water conservation uh by reducing the amount of water used at Gitmo interrogation sessions.
Uh so anyway, a happy post-Earth Day to you.
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Uh it's uh it's great to be with you, and we will be uh speaking at Gitmo, returning to the subject Rush talked upon yesterday, uh, about these prosecutions of Bush administration officials who gave legal opinions on interrogation techniques.
Uh and we'll talk some more about that because there have been a couple of developments, including this morning the revelation that most of these uh uh posturing blowhard finger-in-the-windy uh trimmers in the political class who are now saying this is outrageous and we need prosecutions and all the rest of it.
Uh it turns out that they were all informed about this years ago, and they're saying, oh, well, no, no, no.
We were only we only informed that it was legal, we weren't told it was happening, that in all the usual hair splitting.
The fact is they knew uh that this was part of the program in the days after 9-11.
Uh this would be politically motivated prosecutions.
And they don't even have to be prosecutions.
No, but the the prosecution, the the idea that you're in the dock defending your name uh at some uh in some courthouse down the line, that's the least of it.
Uh just the two to three to four-year investigation with you having to keep answering questions and keep an A-list legal team uh on speed dial, just that investigation is the punishment itself.
This is the way it is now uh in in uh America.
And it will teach a very dangerous lesson.
Who will give honest advice to the United States government?
Uh anyone in so-called public service who's asked to give an opinion will look at what's already happening to these guys.
Being called on to retire in shame from public life uh by demagogues like Senator Leahy.
Any anyone in public service will draw the correct lesson from that, uh, and in future they'll prioritize uh CYA over the national interest.
Uh CYA stands for cover your uh dairiere, as uh John Kerry would say.
You can't fight a war effectively if you're focused on the liability issues.
That was the problem in the nine that was the problem in the 1990s, that uh no matter how many embassies they blew up, uh no matter how many U.S. ships they attract they attack, no matter how many barracks they attack, no matter how many people they killed, uh we investigated it uh as a law enforcement matter.
We didn't understand that it was a war and that you fight a war uh through the means of war.
Uh one something that sings sums it up, a single episode that sums it up.
On the first day of the Afghan war, Muller Omar was fleeing in his SUV.
Uh He didn't care about the environment.
He just jumped into the SUV, didn't wait for the Prius to show up.
He jumped into the SUV to skedaddle out of town.
And uh an unmanned drone uh was over Mullah Omar's vehicle and would have been able to drop a big bomb on him and kill the leader of the Taliban.
Kill the leader of the regime that uh supervised the protection and training uh of the uh of the forces of Osama bin Laden, the man who cooperated with Osama bin Laden uh in the deaths of thousands of Americans uh on September 11th, 2001.
The unmanned drone could have just dropped a bomb on his car and it's Hastila Vista to the one-eyed Malah.
He's gone, he's out of there.
This uh disgusting man uh who who enabled, who basically turned uh that country into a training camp against the civilized world.
Uh the drone was about to drop the bomb on him, and someone back at CENTCOM in Florida on the tape said, Oh, whoa, I'm not happy about this.
My Jag isn't gonna like it.
Jag is uh the military lawyer he reported to.
My Jag isn't going to like it.
We could have killed uh Osama bin Laden's closest ally on the first night of the Afghan war, and we didn't because we were worried about the stupid legalisms uh that might arise afterwards.
It would have been good for Afghanistan, good for the world, and good for us to take out Mullah Omar, but we didn't because we hadn't yet got a a uh uh a binding legal opinion on it.
You cannot fight a war uh this way and expect to win it.
And to have what we have now, which is even worse, which is these guys uh just basically saying, okay, you gave your opinion uh and now retrospectively we're gonna criminalize it is an even more dangerous attitude.
We want to we want to take uh the hard decisions that were made in the wake of nine-eleven, the decisions that were effective and prevented any second 9-11 and punish the officials who participated uh in those decisions.
Uh so I want to talk about that and talk a lot more on the show today.
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And as I always say, if you want to defend uh what's going on here, if you want to defend uh the uh investigation of of officials who did nothing other than offer legal advice to the government of the United States, uh I'd be interested to hear how you make the case for that.
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Your undocumented uh anchor man.
You know, I usually I usually joke when when I'm on this show that I I snuck over the uh I snuck over the border uh in the in the trunk of the vehicle.
They uh hide me under the dirty bomb so nobody notices me.
And about an hour, about an hour south of the border, I usually bang on the trunk and they say it's safe uh to let me out of out of the vehicle now.
And then Janet Napolitano, the director of Homeland Security, marvelous woman, uh made a wonderful statement uh the other day.
She said that uh illegally crossing the border is not a crime per se.
And I this was great news.
It's taken uh it's taken so much of the hassle out of uh guest hosting for me, so I didn't bother like getting in the trunk and getting under the dirty nuke or anything this morning.
Uh I just climbed into climbed into the vehicle, uh, came straight through the border, uh sheared the uh sheared the side off the uh the uh immigration guard's booth as I was coming through.
It knocked uh took a nasty chip out out of uh uh out of out of one of my lights.
But other than that, it was gr I mean the guy uh the g uh the guy was in uh annoyed with me and was trying to shoot my tires out and everything, but apparently that's uh that's not because I'm a suspected terrorist, but because I'm one of these uh uh crazed right-wing extremists who believes in federalism and the Tenth Amendment and uh and all the rest of it.
Uh but uh but uh Janet Napolitano has been uh making some interesting remarks about the border.
Uh the Canadians are like mad with her because uh this is by the way, this is the woman who is in charge of the border.
She's the Secretary of Homeland Security.
Does your homeland feel secure with this woman in charge?
She said uh as Rush mentioned yesterday that uh uh that uh the Canadian border was a big concern to her because uh the nine-11 uh terrorists had come through there.
None of them did.
None of them did.
No 9 11 terrorists came through Canada.
Uh and the Canadians are mad because if you remember Janet Napolitano had said that we're not going to call it terrorism anymore, uh the new term, it's not terrorism, it's quote, man caused disaster, unquote.
Uh and uh so it could be anything, you know, it uh a man Yeah, it's global warming, that's right, it's uh Hurricane Katrina, it's uh date rape at Berkeley, and it's terrorism.
It's all, quote, man caused disaster.
And like most of us were cool with that.
Uh but except now she says, oh, nine eleven, these guys all came through from uh Canada.
So it turns out she's actually narrowing it down.
It's not man caused just man caused disaster.
You know, that could be uh you in Michigan or somebody in Alaska or somebody in Fiji, but she's narrowed it down now.
Now it's Canadian man caused disaster.
And the Canadians are furious about this at being uh stuck with the blame for 9-11.
None of the 9-11 guys got in through Canada.
They didn't need to.
You can see uh in the wake of 9 11, Joel Mowbray applied to the State Department to get the visas that these fellas uh got into the country in.
They were Saudi men, uh and guys from the United a couple of guys from the United Arab Emirates, but mostly Saudis, and they applied on the Saudi Fast Track Visa Program.
And this is a terrific visa program.
If you're a terrorist out there and you're interested in getting into America, uh if you apply from Saudi Arabia, you didn't need to go through uh an embassy or a consulate or any U.S. government official, the guy at the travel agent, Ahmed at the travel agent, would process the paperwork for you, and you would sweep right in.
And if you go on the internet and you look at these forms that these guys filled in, uh it says like uh address in the United States.
And being the geniuses they are, Mohammed and Ahmed had put Hotel America.
And that was it.
Hotel America.
That was their address in the United States.
Uh and so Canadians are like getting a bit miffed at being blamed for this.
That's a State Department form there.
It's nothing to do with the government of Canada, nothing to do with Canadians at all.
You know, a a an octogenarian Toronto snowbird who's been wintering in Florida for the last sixty years wouldn't think of trying to get away with putting hotel America on his form.
But if you're like a Saudi male, uh uh Saudi single male, uh with no visible means of support, no job to go back to or anything, putting Hotel America down is just right for sweeping right in.
That was the way it was on September the 10th, 2001.
And Janet Napolitano now, this is a headline, by the way, in the Canadian paper, the National Post, quote, the border for dummies.
Uh and uh the first line of this editorial is can someone please tell us how U.S. security of homeland U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano got her job.
Uh that's very interesting about this.
What I found more fascinating about, by the way, about this story about the guys getting in through Canada, was that uh was this uh idea that uh when it was pointed out to her that in fact all these people had come in on visas acquired in Saudi Arabia from Saudi travel agents that they hadn't filled in properly and they'd just been waved through.
Uh she then got all cryptic and goes, Oh, I can't talk to that.
I can't speak to that.
As if somewhere, somewhere uh out in Roswell, New Mexico or wherever, they've got some like secret files truly revealing the truth about this, and the Canadian uh the Canadian man caused Canadian disaster of 9-11 is in a sealed box somewhere in Roswell, New Mexico.
Uh but she said I but she did say, quote, I can talk about the future, and here's the future.
The future is we have borders, unquote.
That's her, that's Janet Napolitano.
The future is we have borders.
Borders are us.
Borders are us.
It's it's like Toys Are Us was bought by borders, and now border borders are us.
This woman is in charge of homeland security uh for the United States of America.
And that is the other side uh of the prosecution of uh the men who gave legal advice to the Bush administration.
That legal advice was hard-headed advice uh about how a civilized nation uses the maximum powers at its disposal to prosecute a war effectively and efficiently.
Uh and because they did it so effectively uh that eight years later we haven't had a second 9-11, they're now to be punished for it.
Meanwhile, a bird brain who doesn't even know uh the basic reality of how the 19 men who killed 3,000 Americans on September the 11th, 2001, who doesn't know the basic fact of how they entered this country uh is uh i i is in charge of homeland security.
By the way, there is an immigration issue here.
Three of those guys boarded one of the planes uh that morning with illegal immigration uh paperwork that they'd obtained from the parking lot of the 7 Eleven uh in Falls Church, Virginia.
In other words, the southern border illegal immigration is part of this story, and she's denying that.
More straight ahead on the Rush Limbaugh Show, one-eight hundred-two eight two eight eight two.
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Let's go to Brian in uh uh what's this Oh sell I thought Cell Michigan.
I thought he was part of uh one of those uh Somali jihadists or whatever they got out there.
Uh okay, Brian, Cell Michigan.
What a quaint is that that's one of those all American small town, Apple Apple Pie, Norman Rockwell.
Uh Brian from Cell, Michigan.
Great to have you.
Great to have you on the air with us.
Thanks, Mark.
It's an honor.
And uh I'm I'm it's amazing I'm actually speaking with you.
But thank you for taking the call.
My my pleasure.
Um what I was calling about was I'm a former Marine, spent uh ten years in the Marine Corps, was also an interrogator during that time for seven of the ten years, and uh during that time was one of many in the military that went through SEER school, SERE survival evasion, resistance and escape.
Right.
The whole point of that school is to prepare people should they fall into enemy hands.
It's run by for uh prisoners of war in concert with uh supervision by the Department of Defense.
Anyway, it's an excellent school, it's a very difficult school, but the techniques that are used there are very similar, if not identical to what we're hearing about in the uh media right now as being used on the terrorists.
And what I don't understand is why there is so much discussion about how this is torture.
It is it is uh well, bottom line, is it's torture equated with them uh severing the heads of our own people over there in the Middle East.
Yeah.
And yet there's no mention at all about how we actually use this as um a training tool because it's not torture.
There are years of there's years of data that shows that the people who go to this training, it is intense, yes.
But it is not torturous.
I mean we I I mean I I'd say I'm not nuts, although I am working instead of sitting on uh unemployment.
So maybe I am nuts, but maybe maybe you wouldn't be doing you'd be taking the employment check if you hadn't been mentally traumatized by by all this uh that but you're you're making the point that essentially the position of uh Senator Patrick Leahy and the big shot Democrats uh is that it's all right to do it to you, uh, but it's not all right to to do it to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
It's okay to w waterboard Brian, but it's not okay to waterboard uh Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
Yeah, uh apparently that that's what I'm just amazed about because I know that I mean the classes are are not exactly you know two or three people.
There's several hundred that go through it, so there has to have been several thousand that have gone through it on the aviation and the ground side.
Right.
And I don't understand why I you know there's uh there aren't more that are speaking up.
This is not torture.
It is good training, and in this case not, you know, my personal case, I did not get waterboarded, but there's something similar where they would actually um well, I I I won't go into it.
Anyway, there's no No, no, and and there's a and there's a reason to not go into it, which is why this memo uh the revealing these memos is destructive, is because if uh if uh you know what you are trained to resist, uh, and if that is put out there to the world, that's of immense advantage to uh America's enemies.
Likewise it's a an advantage to them uh to know what their guys will have to be trained to resist.
That's why this whole public debate is not really helpful.
Absolutely.
I don't think it was criminal for him to make that information available because as president he can declassify stuff, but I think it should be criminal because what the he just did was play into the hands of our adversaries.
They know exactly what to train for.
And these techniques could technically still be effective in some form, but they're not going to be as effective as they used to be.
And we have just lost a very important tool, which other memos or I don't know what else is out there on the government side that had that confirmed that it was effective for us.
And that's the whole point.
The military has never never been accused of being efficient.
They're always accused of being effective because they're basically told to go in and break things up and make things happen.
And now we're being told that, well, you can only make things happen under certain conditions or certain ways.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah, and you and and and uh you mentioned the fact that uh, you know, those guys uh behead behead you.
In in other words, if you were a serving marine and you uh uh fell into the hands of the wrong people in Iraq or Afghanistan on the Afghan Pakistani border, uh there's no question of them agonizing over what they're gonna do to you.
They're gonna chop your head off, desecrate your corpse, take a video and market it through uh every uh every madrasa in Pakistan.
And there's no and and and they don't have any they don't have any w so the idea that somehow uh if uh America forswears waterboarding, they'll say, Okay, well uh we're still going to behead you, but this time we're gonna sterilize the scimitar first.
I mean, this is this is an absurd way of looking at it, isn't it?
It is, it is.
I am incredulous because uh while I'm amazed that someone can be in a position of uh governmental uh authority and and make these claims, but they're they're able to do this and it's basically uncontested.
You don't hear essential questions being asked.
Instead, it's almost like people are more interested in trying to please uh members of the executive branch or even in this case the legislative branch and just get out of the discussion instead of getting right into it and looking at the facts.
I'm interested in seeing more of this information get out there because because again, there is a lot of information that is not being it's not getting the light of day, and the result is that we have a very skewed picture right now.
Yes, uh yes, we certain we certainly do.
Thank you.
Thank you for your call, Brian.
Uh th this gets to uh it without wishing to, you know, uh tr trivialize it, in a sense it's it's it's part of uh what Rush was talking about the other day uh with this other big story out there, which is uh Carrie Prejon, uh that's how you say her name, is it?
Pre uh the uh Mi Miss California?
Ca Carrie Prechant?
That's a Yeah.
That's yeah, just Miss California.
I didn't know.
I thought it might be like uh, you know, like all the Benoits who came down from Quebec to work in the mills of New Hampshire and Maine and Vermont are all benoit now.
So I thought she might have but apparently she's got a Californian, Carrie Prejon.
But this thing, she gave an honest uh and polite and respectful answer on gay marriage in the um uh Miss USA competition.
And these two stories are really the uh the same story.
They're about the making the price of uh dissent uh from liberal orthodoxy too high.
Uh even on issues where the vast majority of American public opinion uh is uh opposes elite opinion.
Um uh as uh as that uh thuggish blogger who uh who was on the judging panel of uh Miss USA said, Miss USA should be politically correct.
Uh and that's ridiculous in a beauty competition.
It's even more ridiculous at the Pentagon.
Uh it's it's strange to me when you look at the ads that the CIA uses now.
The CIA runs all these celebrate diversity ads as if they're just interested in uh getting their affirmative action quotas in line.
Uh the th there's something uh wrong in the way we're shriveling the public space uh to uh criminalize essentially uh non-liberal views of of looking at these uh uh these issues.
Uh and that's really uh as I said, I don't want to trivialize it, but essentially uh the the the uh the thuggish uh blogger on the judging panel uh demanding that uh Miss California prostrate herself uh before the gods of political correctness and before the gods of liberal orthodoxy uh is exactly the same as what's going on with uh with with this retrospective prosecutions and investigations of the Bush administration.
And actually it's the the um uh the same thing.
You know, basically elite opinion has decided that these issues are settled.
Gay marriage is unstoppable, so get over it or else.
Uh and elite opinion likewise has decided that the war on terror expired with the Bush administration and it's now September the 10th all over again.
So you better get on board or else.
Uh and uh and for what it's worth, Miss California's stated position on gay marriage was exactly the same as Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's in the election campaign.
Uh but that doesn't matter because the the liberal thought enforcers know that Carrie Prejan means it and Barack and Hillary don't.
Uh and they're just going along with a bit of uh, you know, pro-former opposition to gay marriage for the sake of uh political expediency all done with a uh a bit of a wink and a nod.
But that's the same with these terror interrogations, too.
Nancy Pelosi and Patrick Leahy and all the other big shot Democrats were in the loop.
They knew years and years and years ago.
But that's okay because they didn't mean it either.
It was uh, you know, it was after 9-11.
There was a lot of uh hysteria out there.
Sometimes you you gotta string along with these uh bitter clinger type guys with the guns and garden all hung up on all the crazy stuff, just to survive, just for a few months until the whole thing blows over.
Uh and so it's okay for them to uh to to to know what's going on with the waterboarding and the torture and all the rest of it.
Uh it's okay as long as they're just stringing along and they don't really mean it.
But if you do mean it, uh you've got to pay a price, whether you're a contestant on Miss USA or a legal advisor to the Bush administration.
The point is, in both cases, uh to scare off anyone uh who might be inclined to share those views and express it in public, and in a sense, to make those views unrespectable, uh both on uh is relatively peripheral issues like gay marriage and on serious issues like trying to prevent uh men who want to kill thousands uh of civilians, men, women and children in hideous ways uh from accomplishing their ends.
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Mark's tied sit again uh for rush today.
Uh fascinating fascinating story of the paper about a uh a tribesman in the highlands of the uh New Guinea jungle.
Uh he's uh his name is Isum Mandingo.
But uh man Isa Mandingo, uh uh from the uh Highlands of New Guinea is suing the New Yorker magazine uh for claiming uh that he was paralyzed in some tribal blood feud.
This is a story by the best-selling writer Jared Diamond, who was uh he was basically uh portraying these uh upcountry New Guinea tribesmen as vengeful bloodthirsty killers.
And now they're saying, yeah, no, we're like it's like uh it's it's it's like the Brady Bunch out here.
We we're like it's a quiet, sleepy suburban subdivision.
And they're and they're suing uh the New Yorker uh this uh and and that's an interesting point, by the way, when upcountry New Guinea tribesmen like Isom Mandingo are suing the New Yorker magazine, you know you live in a wholly legalistic world.
Everything is lawsuits now, everything is litigated, everything is about liability issues, including even the war on terror.
Uh let's uh let's go to Richard in Concord, California.
Uh Richard, great to have you with us on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Yeah, I'm Mark.
Hey, good to good to good to hear from you.
Uh yeah, um uh I'm a former Marine, and so I want to do my patriotic duty and advise Homeland Security to red flag this call, first of all.
Right.
Because you might be one of those crazy veterans liable to go psycho and gun down everybody at the lunch counter, is that right?
Exactly.
Okay, okay.
So if Homeland Security are listening in, we hope they're tracing this call even now.
Okay, go ahead, Richard.
Okay, uh, what's going on in this world?
I mean, I I can't believe it.
If the Democratic Party, or I should say Leahy, is going after Bush administration for basically saving American lives.
But they won't go after Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for what they've done to our economy, along with Acorn and Obama who represented them.
So because of what they did, people are dying.
People are shooting other people, people are committing suicide.
I think that Dodds and Frank ought to be brought up on involuntary manslaughter charges.
How do you see this?
Well, you're you make uh you make a good point there that in actual that in actual fact, in terms of American lives lost, uh there there seems to be more evidence just from this uh string of suicides related to uh various things going on at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack that actually uh that actually m i if if the issue is protecting Americans,
uh then uh th then some of the then this uh huge great financial racket for which Barney Frank bears a huge degree of personal responsibility is something that should be investigated.
Uh but let's go let's step back and go back to your your broader point, uh Richard.
You know, what they're doing here is they're not they don't yet have the guts to put Bush in the dock.
They don't yet have him uh the courage to drag him into a courtroom and put him there and saying we're prosecuting the pres the former president of the United States for war crimes, which is what a lot of the uh European courts would like to do, by the way.
Uh but what they are doing is they're going after all the uh all the officials who who who uh who who were part of the background on this.
And and the object of that is to make it less likely that a president of the United States will get honest advice on this these issues ever again.
Because what they're doing is they're criminalizing the integrity of politics.
If a president asks for an opinion from somebody, he wants to know that that opinion uh is going to be uh an honest, straightforward opinion.
And what uh Leahy and uh Co.
are saying is no, we don't care about that.
We will retrospectively prosecute you.
But as you say, on the other hand, if you're a lifetime legislator like Barney Frank, you're never held accountable.
They're the one people, the one group of people who are never held accountable for anything.
Uh Barney Frank and Pat Leahy and all the rest can be wrong on every single major issue for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, and they never have to, uh and they'll never be called to account for that.
Uh so in that sense, Richard, you make a very good point.
Yeah, and uh may I bring up one other thing.
Uh you were talking about uh this uh Perez Hilton in this uh Miss USA contest.
Right.
I think the guy's freaking nature for starters, but uh you know this gay agenda thing, Fox News isn't covered in this.
Okay, it's not just about them getting married.
Okay, that's not the problem with me.
The problem is that they want to uh do it they want to uh they want to at least uh um a tax exempt credit on the churches if the churches don't go along with the gay issue.
They also want indoctrinate our children.
They want to teach them in the schools, the gay lifestyle.
I'm talking elementary children.
Yeah, no, no, no, let's b back up before because the the the first point is uh is uh interesting.
They're basically saying that if you teach, if you're and it doesn't matter actually whether you're a Christian or you're a Muslim, although oddly enough it's the Christian churches they like to demonstrate against and like to demonize.
They don't seem so eager to hold a big demonstration outside the radical mosque.
But basically, if they're saying if Islam or Christianity uh if you teach the tenets of Islam or Christianity on homosexuality, uh then you're gonna you're gonna lose your tax exempt status.
Uh because in effect they've decided, this is what I meant about elite opinion has decided the gay debate is over.
There is no debate about it.
Gay marriage is now the uh default formal position.
Even if uh as in California, people vote against it, you vote to uh for constitutional amendments and all the rest of it, doesn't matter, doesn't count.
Uh elite opinion has decided uh that you can only have one acceptable view on this, and if w it doesn't matter whether you're on Miss USA or if whether you're on uh your your uh uh tax uh tax exempt church, no dissent is permitted.
Thank you.
Thank you for your uh uh point, uh Richard.
We're running a little late.
Uh we gotta go back with more straight ahead on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Uh Richard was mentioning that uh that uh gay blogger who was one of the judges on on the uh Miss USA thing.
Uh the one who uh the one who denounced uh Miss USA uh Miss California as a dumb bitch and then subsequently posted on his website uh a photo of her from the TV broadcast uh with the microphone in front of her mouth, photoshopped out and a certain male anatomical part drawn in its place.
And this Twerp blogger, by the way, is objecting to her intolerance.
Uh I don't even understand what what it what is a gay blogger doing uh judging a beauty competition?
Uh there's a there's a writer up in Canada c called Kathy Shadel, who had a great line uh saying that getting Perez Hilton to judge Miss USA is like getting Ray Charles to umpire the world series.
Uh you know, don't make don't get me wrong.
I love I love uh love gays, love all that fabulous gay wit.
But you know, this guy's fabulous gay wit is to sneer at this girl as a dumb bitch.
Uh that's not exactly uh Oscar Wilde, is it?
I don't think Noel Coward is curled up with envy uh about that.
Uh more straight ahead, Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the EIB network.
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