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April 17, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 17, 2009, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24 7 Podcast.
Greetings to you, music lovers and thrill seekers and conversationalists and donors all across the fruited plain time for the award-winning thrill-packed, ever-exciting, increasingly popular, growing by leaps and bounds Rush Limbaugh program on Friday.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
And it's also the 19th annual Curathon for Leukemia and Lymphoma.
Nineteen years we've been doing this.
I've been doing the radio show for 20 plus years, so that means the leukemia crowd came on board in 1989.
And it's been wonderful.
and so have you alright here the rules and we have a lot of new listeners yesterday we set an email record Something like 425,000 emails during the program yesterday.
Yeah.
So I know there are not a new listeners out there.
And uh bringing up to speed here on Open Line Friday, Monday through Thursday.
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Uh and if people call Monday through Thursday about things that don't interest me, they never see the light of broadcast day.
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We'll be mentioning it throughout the busy broadcast day.
It's 877 3798.
That is the number to cure leukemia and lymphoma for one day.
And we do this one day every year.
This is our 19th year.
We are raising money for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
It's the world's largest voluntary health organization dedicated not only to funding blood cancer research, but education and patient services to people just like you.
Now the uh the work of the Leukemia Lymphoma Society's international funding research at home and overseas, and they are outstanding in all that they do.
It's interesting.
This is 19 years, and I have been working with the same people for 19 years.
Pam Edelstein and Larry Vanderveen.
Now that's commitment, and everybody involved of the Leukemia Lymphoma Society that we deal with has been personally affected by this disease.
One way or another, either they themselves have contracted a form of blood cancer or members of their families have.
They are in this because of the commitment to the cause.
Nineteen years, the same people.
It's almost like they're part-time employees.
They're dependable, you can count on them, and they're here.
Now, a lot of important and wonderful charities out there, but what uh what I love about the leukemia lymphoma society is that they are advancing every year.
Through hard work and the generosity of people like you, we have blood cancers now playing defense.
The blood cancers are on defense, removing the ball each and every year.
It's slow, but it is steady progress.
This is uh this this day every year.
We do usually do it in April, uh, some sometime in April every year is one of the uh one of the most meaningful days of the year, and it's stunning the uh level of support the leukemia and lymphoma society has received from you.
One day a year, less than three hours total.
We do not devote the entire program to the uh cause.
We uh we we mix our fundraising effort here in with the rest of Open Line Friday, and the um the amount of money that you all have contributed to this cause to cure blood cancers over the years is just stunning.
Now, everybody is aware that we are in uh challenging economic times.
The unemployment rate is what it is, and uh so you know everybody's expectations are realistic.
We're always high, and we always dream.
Uh, But the uh nevertheless, these diseases go on.
Uh they don't know economic circumstances, and they don't know gender, and they don't know race or religion or anything else.
They strike people at times late in life.
You generally hear about the disease when somebody you know, somebody who's famous contracts a form of it.
It can happen in their 40s or 50s, and it is stunning when it happens, but it hits everybody.
And there is uh there's there's no rhyme or reason to it.
Everybody is uh is potential victim here.
900,000 patients, and their families are living with leukemia, lymphoma, Hodgkin's disease, myeloma.
A hundred thousand more patients are diagnosed every year.
Now, these people have uh more than hope going for them because the work they're doing today for the leukemia and lymphoma society is bringing quantifiable change, uh, progress, and especially for kids.
Leukemia is the number one cancer killer of children under the age of twenty.
The most common form of childhood leukemia has an overall survival rate today of 88%.
That's up one percent since a year ago.
The progress here is demonstrable, and it's significant.
Lymphoma is diagnosed in 63,000 Americans every year, 20,000 succumbed to the disease.
The five-year survival rate has risen from 47% in 1974 to 65% today, which is up another 2% from a year ago.
Hodgkin's disease today.
Hodgkin's disease considered curable.
The five-year survival rate is now up to 86%, and it is even higher for those under 20.
Non-Hodgkins lymphoma has a uh long-term survival rate of 65%.
None of this would be possible were it not for the generosity of Americans all over the country who are contributing to research.
Each time that we uh draw near to the Curathon, I uh I always receive tons of emails from family members uh or people who uh have uh one of the various blood cancers describing their circumstances, how their treatment is going, how valuable the research from the leukemia lymphoma society has been, and the uh emails are always filled with thanks.
People asking to be uh passed on to you for all of the uh generosity, contributions, donations that you have made.
Myeloma.
Myeloma is a cancer of the plasma cells.
Sixty-three thousand Americans currently live with this disease.
There are 15,000 new patients diagnosed every year.
Now, this disease rarely strikes those under the age of 50.
And the five-year survival rate was only 32 percent a couple years ago.
It's uh gone up to 35% now.
Uh leukemia lymphoma society dollars instrumental in the development of a new treatment since we last spoke, Velcade, uh, that brought about these recent gains.
Velcade.
Uh so the research goes on.
Lots of breakthroughs to be telling you about during the course of the day.
And as always, uh ladies and gentlemen, a couple things here.
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And as usual, as is always the case, I, ladies and gentlemen, never sit here and ask you to do something that I haven't done or that I don't do.
And I don't want to impugn those who moderate and host curathons on radio or television and implore you.
Because every time I watch these things, other than Jerry Lewis.
Every time I watch, well, what are you doing?
Well, what are you?
I mean, you're telling everybody else to drop everything they're doing.
What are you doing?
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Oh.
Yeah, time has cured a lot of diseases.
So, ladies and gentlemen, I'll start.
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In the meantime, a brief timeout will come back.
Barack Obama in Mexico.
I didn't know this till last night.
He wrote an op-ed that has run in 15 Central American and South American newspapers and the Miami Herald.
And basically, he is apologizing for the United States in this op-ed uh that was published on the day of his arrival in Mexico.
We got lots to do today.
It's open line Friday.
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We'll continue after this.
We're back.
It's open line Friday, and we are curing lymphoma and leukemia here on our annual curaton to do just that.
This is year number 19.
And there have been years, by the way, not too long ago.
Throughout the, I guess the last seven and a half years, you remember the drive by media was doing everything they could to make us believe we were in a recession or heading there as part of their ongoing effort here to depress you so as to make a Democrat option on election day more palatable.
And even during those years when we have thought that, well, you know, this obviously we're we're gonna have trouble maintaining the level of support we had last year.
This is a economy is what it is.
Now, admittedly, and we've always been wrong about that.
Every year we thought we were gonna have a down year.
We didn't.
And is a testament to all of you, and uh every year this happens, the uh the people that we work with here at the uh leukemia lymphoma society are just there in tears at the end of each program every every uh year, as am I. Uh, but this this year is a uh unique circumstance.
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Barack Obama in Mexico, brief visit yesterday on his way to this summit of the Americas, and he published an op-ed in a lot of newspapers down there.
And it just it it this is it's almost like the teleprompter wrote the op-ed.
Here's here's an excerpt.
Too often the United States has not sought or maintained relations with its neighbors.
Now this is a published in Mexico.
It's published in Florida.
It's published 15 places in Central and South America.
Too often, the United States is not sought or maintained relations with its neighbors.
We've allowed ourselves to be distracted by other priorities without realizing that our progress is directly linked to progress in the whole American continent.
My government is committed to the promise of a new day.
We will renew and maintain more extensive relationships between United States and the hemisphere for the sake of our common prosperity and our common security.
Now, too often the United States has not sought or maintained relations with its neighbors.
Let's pretend we're in Mexico City.
we open the newspaper, we're reading this.
In the 90s, and I won't forget this because I got a call from the then chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, explaining it to me, a $25 billion bailout for the government of Mexico, because they were in big, big trouble.
What percentage of the Mexican workforce do you think we employ?
How many of them are here?
We signed NAFTA.
How many American businesses have relocated?
What in the world is he apologizing for?
He's apologizing because he acknowledged he wants people.
He wants people around the world to have their hate for this country confirmed by no less than the President of the United States.
Because the more people inside and outside this country who disapprove of it, the more opportunity and power he will be given to reshape it, to rebuild it with his with his new foundation.
This part's pretty interesting, too.
To confront our economic crisis, we don't need to debate whether a rigid and state-directed economy or an unregulated runaway capitalism is better.
We need to take pragmatic and responsible steps to promote our common prosperity.
To combat crime and violence, it's not necessary to discuss whether the fault lies with the right-wing paramilitaries or leftist insurgents.
Practical cooperation is needed to reinforce our common security.
Once again, the time-honored technique that Barack Obama uses, the straw man, runaway capitalism.
We don't have runaway capitalism.
What he means by runaway capitalism is no regulations on any business whatsoever.
We don't need to debate whether a rigid and state-directed economy or an unregulated runaway capitalism is better.
We most certainly do, but we need to redefine the terms here.
And this is where we find ourselves today.
We have to admit, those of us who are capitalists, we have to admit that some of these people at the banks did overstep, but I don't know, you know, it I'm not willing to concede that it's a number one problem and fault of the banks when you've got Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton and Chris Dodd suggesting and Janet Reno threatening these banks to make loans to people that they couldn't pay back.
So the banks are dealing in worthless paper.
They have to come up with ways to make the worthless worth something.
So they create all these new derivatives, credit default swaps, package these mortgages security, sell them and sell them as long as the boom's going great, and everybody seems to be making money, it seems to be going fine.
And everybody was making a mistake at the same time because basic foundational principles are being ignored.
You cannot loan money to people that can't pay it back and survive, as the lender.
At some point, if you pass off your horrible business experience of loaning lots of people, money that they can never pay back.
If you pass it up to somebody else down the line and they pass it off, at some point it's going to come due, and it has.
The debate most clearly is about what is the best way to provide prosperity for the greatest number of people in the world.
And you can go around the world, folks, and you can find the unequal distribution of capitalism as the number one reason why people remain poor.
And here's the problem that always results, and I have mentioned this on several occasions.
When capitalism screws up, or when the case has been persuasively made that capitalism screws up, such as these banks, you get more government.
You get more government to fix it.
Everybody looks to the government to make it fair, Mr. Limbaugh.
But then when government screws up, you don't get more capitalism.
When government screws up, you get more government.
When the Great Society doesn't work, when it doesn't eradicate poverty, you get more poverty programs that don't work.
So we're kind of screwed here.
So you end up you have to ask Philip Klein and the American Spectator question I'm going to paraphrase here.
Ask yourself, who do you want essentially running the economics of the United States in this hemisphere?
Marx, Lenin, Stalin.
Or would you rather take your chances with some American CEOs?
I know how I would answer that, but right now, Obama's ruling that out.
And welcome back, Rush Limbaugh and the EIB Network.
Nice to have you here at uh 800-282-2882.
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The uh program and the uh phone number if you want to go landline route or your cell phone to make a donation to cure lymphoma and leukemia 877-379-8888.
But most people get it, we are ahead at at the first break, we were ahead of last year's pace.
I that just I was blown away last year that the I forget what was going on last year.
Oh, we're heading into rotten economy.
I I I was stunned that we beat last year, uh the previous year last year.
I'm amazed.
We've got not only more dollars brought in, but uh uh we have if I'm reading this right, we have more donors as well, which would make sense because our audience is expanded by uh leaps and bounds.
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All right, it is open line Friday.
Let's go to the phones.
We're gonna start with Diana in Ashland, Ohio.
Now, this is fascinating.
Yesterday afternoon we had a phone call from somebody who was at the Tea Party in Ashland, Ohio, and said that Rush, it was an eighty-two-year-old guy, World War II vet, and he said, Rush, a woman read your dad's speech in the signers of the declaration, and you could have heard a pin drop, and she's called us.
That's who Diana is.
Hi, Diana.
Great to have you here.
That's a wonderful thing that you did.
Thank you.
I uh I really call it to just thank you for putting it on the site so that I was able to share it with the six hundred wonderful people that had come to our our tea party in Ashland.
Well, it it blew me away that that that uh anybody would either think to do that at at the tea party.
That's uh that's terrific.
Our family's especially proud.
And this guy said that that you could hear a pin drop when you were reading it.
It was absolutely silent.
Um, and at the end, everybody did cheer.
I got very good vibes from people.
People were very happy to have heard the sacrifice and the really the suffering that some of our founders went through, especially the lesser known ones that we don't really care about, just like your father's speech had said.
And uh I just got amazing feedback, everybody loved it, and I thought that the speech itself was appropriate to the things that the Tea Party um Tea Party rallies were all about, which was the limited government and and stopping the excessive uh taxation.
God bless you.
I can't thank you enough for doing that.
And we we've posted it again yesterday afternoon at uh at Rush Limbaugh.com.
It's amazing.
Diana, thank you.
You're welcome and thank you.
You bet.
Uh emails last night from people who had read it for the first time who knew nothing about it.
It is stunning to me.
I I it really is.
I guess I guess I shouldn't be surprised, because we all know what the status of the public school system has been for a while.
So many people who read that speech at Rushlimbaugh.com, the signers of the declaration, our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor, they had no idea.
They just thought they signed the declaration and went on.
So if you don't know about this, if you don't know what the people who declared independence for this country, what they would and by the way, here's another interesting little factoid for you.
There weren't official polls back then, but historians as Obama would say, all historians agree from all sides of the aisle.
One third of the population was for independence.
One third was against independence because they were scared of what the British would do and a third didn't care either way.
So you see it was a third of the population that got in gear essentially and uh went on to participate and lead the revolutionary war and in fact that one third probably expanded and grew as um as time went on.
This is Madeline up next in Melbourne, Florida.
Madeline, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello Rush.
Once again, it's an honor to speak with you.
Thank you.
I'm so fired up today between Napolitano and this latest of the memo, or whatever, what is it called?
The CIA interrogation memo.
Oh, please.
Come on.
Obama, he really, he thought about this so long.
He struggled with whether or not to release the details here.
And then the left, do you know the left, Madeline, has all been out of shape because Obama said, no, we've got to move on.
we're not going to prosecute any of the CIA people, people that did the interrogations but he did not rule out prosecuting former Bush administration officials.
Yeah I heard that what what was the is this the purpose of this to just distract people from the all the idiot things he's doing I mean don't aren't people more concerned about the economy uh their dogs and the other no no no I want you to stop and think of this again.
Try to come up with your own answer.
Here you have memos.
And by the way, if you look at what we are calling torture, you have to laugh.
For example, what was it?
Slapping?
Putting an insect in with a prisoner in a small, confined area?
There were ten of these, but if you go through what are said to be the four worst, waterboarding, of course, which worked on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
I'm looking here for the...
Yeah, sleep deprivation, facial slaps, placing one high-ranking al-Qaeda suspect, that would be Abu Zabidah, in a cramped box with what he told was a stinging insect.
This guy had a paranoia about stinging insects.
They put him in with a caterpillar.
Oh.
A caterpillar doesn't sting.
But they told him it stung.
And it worked.
This is what supposedly made us the moral equivalent of al-Qaeda.
So you tell me, why would Barack Obama feel it necessary to release this to the world?
Especially when you look at what Obama said.
Let me read you this.
First, the interrogation techniques described in these memos have already been widely reported.
So he had to get the...
truth out because it was already out so answer your own question again why would he do this I can't answer that.
I I I just doesn't it makes no sense to me.
I I I don't get it.
I I you have you have to help me out there because I don't know.
Come on now is the Bush bash because the Bush bashing just has something to do with it and which never ends well that's part of it, but it's far about far more than that.
It makes total sense that Obama would do this.
Well, now why are you frowning at me, snurredly?
Do you think that's everything left up to me and nobody is there no critical thinking left anymore?
Is it always all going to be up to me?
Yes, it is.
I guess it it's every something every single day with the Madeline.
I can't take it anymore.
You have a president of the United States who at every opportunity on foreign soil is doing what?
Full out of himself.
Weak-up.
He's apologizing for his own country.
Yeah, that's right.
He's writing op-eds that run in Mexico and Central American company countries yesterday and today that apologize for his own country.
He goes to the G twenty.
He apologizes for his own country.
Now, during the prosecution of the Iraq War, one of the mutt number one talking points, and its purpose was to discredit the U.S. military, to demoralize the U.S. military, and to secure the defeat of the United States, was to manufacture all this horrible rotten brouhahaha about torture.
And of course it started with Abu Ghraib in uh in in Baghdad and then Club Gitno and so forth.
For a president of the United States who does not like this country as it's currently structured, and who by his own admission is now going to build a new foundation.
Isn't it easy and easier to release this and say, see, I told you our country was guilty.
We Democrats told you our country was guilty.
These memos from my predecessor prove that this country is guilty.
We have gone beyond our values and morals or what have you.
So if you have a president whose mentors, he sat in church twenty years hearing what a rotten, unfair, unjust country the United States was.
He heard it from his parents.
He heard it from Bill Ayers.
He believes it.
So releasing plus he he keeps the media on his side because they they they bought into this totally.
This is this makes total sense.
This makes and it it people are saying, but rush, but rush.
And and and Mike Hayden and Mike Mucasey, the the Hayden CIA, former CIA McCasey, former attorney general, but great, great, great op-ed about this.
My God, we've just shown our enemies what we do.
We've just given away the effective elements of our techniques here.
And G why why would Obama do that?
Because look at now, you there you we do arrive at a point where I can't explain certain things.
I I don't maybe Obama thinks we're not gonna get hit again.
Maybe Obama thinks maybe he really does believe, like people in conflict resolution class do.
Maybe he believes that Al Qaeda is going to read this memo and understand that Obama released it, and maybe he thinks he thinks that terrorists around the world are going to conclude, hey, the United States is okay now.
We don't need to attack him.
I I that's naive.
I can't believe he really explains it.
What he's done now, if we're hit again, he owns it.
If we're hit again, President Obama owns it.
All right, another timeout.
Thanks, Madeline.
I appreciate the uh the phone call once again.
Our 19th Annual Curathon, leukemia and lymphoma.
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All right, we just got the 1235 numbers in 1235 Eastern time, and we are still ahead of last year.
I'm stunned.
I went into this curaton this year with uh kind of average expectations.
You you all surprise me every you surprise me in more ways than you'll ever know.
So that's our 19th Carathon, leukemia and lymphoma, WWW.rush Limbaugh.com to make a donation.
Lots of progress, lots of breakthroughs have uh taken place in this disease or these the blood cancers, and I want to detail some of those for you as we start the next hour.
Uh since the subject of the um interrogation memos have been brought up by a caller who didn't quite understand why.
Let's go to some audio sound bites on this.
By the way, I'm getting I'm getting nagged by some people who say, hey, I know some caterpillars that sting.
Okay, so a caterpillar because you can't die from the thing.
I mean, if a caterpillar stings, I've never heard of a caterpillar that stings, but if it stings, it stings.
But you don't die from one.
You might think you're going to, but we're talking about people who cut people's heads off for crying out what are we what are we getting all concerned here about putting somebody in a little box with a caterpillar.
So here's a uh this a montage from last night and this morning.
Stephanopoulos, Mika Bzinsky, Joe Scarborough, Chris Matthews, and Tom Foreman of CNN.
The fact that Zubeto was tortured with an insect in the confinement box, that was surprising, actually putting bugs.
What kind of bug?
How big was this bug?
Put somebody in a coffin and you throw bugs in?
One memo, even O'Cade throwing in an insect of which he was believed to be deathly afraid.
You is torture?
Slapping somebody in the face is torture.
Sleep deprivation is torture.
Throwing somebody in a little cramped environment, throwing him with a caterpillar.
Look at we found out that this Zubaida who cuts people's heads off, who murders people, who tries to engage in mass killing.
And by the way, according to MUCACE, the former attorney general and Mike Hayden, the former CIA director, all this stuff worked, including the water board on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
They say it is a myth, and there are a lot of myths about this.
They say in their brilliant appear that it's a myth that people lie to escape torture.
Uh this for people to say that, to have an objection to that, it just shows their ignorance.
This isn't w what what interrogation is about is gathering intel.
It's not just exclusively about trying to ascertain guilt.
It's about ascertaining intel.
And there are many techniques that you use.
One of the techniques to test a suspect is to ask him questions to which you already know the answers.
Find out if he's being honest with you or not from the get-go.
But the idea that that uh torture doesn't work, that's been put out from you know, John McCain on down to where I McCain for the longest time said torture didn't work, and then he admitted in his acceptance speech Republican National Convention last summer that he was broken by the North Vietnamese.
So what are we to think here?
We're talking about national security.
You know, people got to put this in context.
If you want to pretend that we live in the idyllic days, 24 inches of snow in Denver tonight and tomorrow, by the way.
Thank you, global warmth.
Yep, 24-inch snow in Denver tonight and tomorrow, maximum possible.
Here it is, April the 17th.
You want to live in these idyllic days, April 17, 2009, and start thinking about putting these poor people in with caterpillar or slapping them in the face.
Oh, yeah, how horrible.
Think put yourself in the aftermath of 9-11.
Put yourself by the way, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad was claiming credit for beheading Daniel Pearl.
You know, we're supposed to sit or worry about a face slap.
Here is Obama hiself.
The uh Spanish version, Spanish language version, Juan Carlos Lopez interviewing Obama says uh Spanish judge Balthazar Garsen is considering a lawsuit filed by attorneys representing six Spaniards who are at one point held at Guantanamo, and that lawsuit wants to go after President Bush's legal team.
What's your reaction to that?
I've been very clear that uh uh Guantanamo's to be closed, that some of the practices of enhanced interrogation techniques uh I think ran counter to American values and American traditions.
Still lost.
So I've put an end to these policies.
No, it's still open.
I I I'm a strong believer that uh it's important to look forward and not backwards.
We are moving a process forward here in the United States to understand what happened, but also to focus on uh how we make sure that uh the the manner in which we operate currently uh is consistent with uh our values and our uh uh traditions.
What the hell values and traditions are these people talking about?
I've hear this for eight years.
What the hell values and traditions are they talking about?
Appeasement?
Surrender?
What the hell values what traditions?
National security, defend and protect the people of this country and the Constitution.
That's the oath.
Brief time out back after this.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
From me, everybody, Leukemia Lymphoma Society, our 19th Curaton.
We are ahead in dollars and donors over last year, which was a record year.
It's unbelievable.
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