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March 4, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 4, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 Podcast.
Cracks are beginning to show, ladies and gentlemen, in the Democrat Party over the Obama agenda.
Russ Feingold, Senator from Wisconsin, wants the president to veto the omnibus spending bill.
Here are some headlines.
Democrat revolt may slow Democrat agenda.
Moderate Democrats feel sticker shock.
Senator Martinez working with Democrats to kill Omnibus Bill.
Moderates uneasy with Obama plan.
There's some cracks here and some fissures here.
Some holes in the dike, if you will, uh starting to break out now here on the uh on the side of the of the Democrat Party.
We'll get to the details of all of that as the program unfolds before your very eyes and ears.
But now it is known.
It is on the record thanks to Politico.com since last fall.
The White House, led by Rom Emanuel, the chief of staff to Barack Obama has been targeting me, your host, your harmless, lovable little fuzzball.
Their standard operating procedure.
They need a demon to distract and divert from what their agenda is.
They need a demon about whom they can lie so as to persuade average Americans that they're the good guys, the benevolent good guys, and the mean SOBs are their enemies stopping trying to stop this great young little president from doing miraculous and wonderful things.
Here is a new ad that this union bunch is running in Washington, D.C., ladies and gentlemen.
And of course it's been picked up all over the web.
It's been oh, you guys, if you haven't done so, you gotta go to Rush Limbaugh.com.
The Democrat National, the DNCC, whatever it is.
They have a questionnaire up there.
It's hilarious.
I have to give them credit.
You can see it right now at Rush Limbaugh.com.
It is uh it is a form letter where any Republican can send a note of apology to me.
The note is an apology note to me, and you can fill in your name and the reason you're apologizing.
Uh it is funny.
I had to laugh when I saw it last night.
I instructed Coco is put it up there.
It's hilarious.
It is as good as the old Saturday Night Live stuff back when Saturday Night Live was actually funny.
But there's a new ad targeted at your lovable, harmless little fuzzball host from that union bunch.
It starts today in Washington, D.C., which means it's gonna be all over the cable networks pretty soon.
Who was the leader?
Republicans held as a hero last weekend.
Was it Sarah Palin?
No, no, no.
Bobby Gindle.
No, no, no.
Michael Steele.
No, no, no.
Mitch McConnell?
No, no, no.
And who?
Not Rush Limbaugh.
Yes.
Call the Republican leadership.
Tell them to just say no to the politics of Rush Limbaugh.
I hope he fails.
Paid for by Americans United for Change.
That's the Union Bunch.
Can you see call the Republican leadership and say no to Limbaugh?
Now, ladies and gentlemen.
Political story.
I got an email last night from the uh writer of the story, Jonathan Martin, who did not tell me the full details of what the story they were working on was.
He did not tell me that they have discovered that there is a team inside the White House targeting me and that they've been doing this since last fall when they went out and did some polling data and found out I've got very high negatives among uh certain groups, so they thought, well, this is the guy to demonize because Bush is leaving.
We need somebody.
And so this is being led from the White House.
There is an orchestrated attack.
Daily drumbeat on me from the White House.
The uh participants here are James Carville, Paul Bagala, and Rom Emanuel.
But make no mistake about it, Emmanuel is the leader of all of this.
Uh Carville and Bigala are just trying to ride my fame into their fortune and become relevant again.
Uh Bagala and Carville.
Don't confuse them with the power brokers that are that are managing this.
It's all Emmanuel.
Bigala and Carville are second-rate talking heads on CNN.
CNN has no audience.
Rom Emanuel is the power behind the throne.
And don't let his effeminate nature and his ballerina past mislead you on this.
He may look effeminate.
He was a ballerina one time, but he has the fearful instincts of a female rat defending its young.
Well, take a look.
When Emmanuel and Carville and Bagala are together, and I I've seen pictures, it looks like it's a reunion of the village people.
Why?
They are really the official greeters in Roswell, New Mexico at Aero 51, where Carville was born.
My point here is that uh these are really odious, empty, nasty people who are feasting on their own arrogance.
They are power hungry.
But you know what?
They've never had a serious debate over ideas.
Their goal is to destroy opponents, which is what they're trying to do now.
They don't want to engage opponents.
Their idea of victory is the destruction of the opponent.
Then they're not for a level playing field.
They want to clear the playing field so that their ideas do not have to undergo any scrutiny.
So what do they do?
They leak stories to the politico, intended to create impressions about their own importance and their brilliance.
When in fact they aren't even bit players on the nation stage.
This is Emmanuel, and this is Obama.
But I have an idea.
If these guys are so impressed with themselves, and if they are so sure of their correctness, why doesn't President Obama come on my show?
We will do a one-on-one debate of ideas and policies.
Now his people in this political story, it's on the record.
They're claiming they wanted me all along.
They wanted me to be the focus of attention, so let's have the debate.
I am offering President Obama to come on this program without staffers, without a telepromp, without note cards to debate me on the issues.
Let's talk about free markets versus government control.
Let's talk about nationalizing health care and raising taxes on small business.
Let's talk about the New Deal versus Reaganomics.
Let's talk about closing Guantanamo Bay, and let's talk about sending $900 million to Hamas.
Let's talk about illegal immigration and lawlessness on the borders.
Let's talk about massive deficits and the destroying the opportunities of future generations.
Let's talk about acorn, community agitators, the unions that represent the government employees which form millions of dollars into your campaign, President Obama.
Let's talk about your elimination of school choice for minority students in the District of Columbia.
Let's talk about your efforts to future reduced domestic drilling and refining of oil.
Let's talk about your stock market.
By the way, Mr. President, I want to help.
Yesterday you said you looked at the stock market as no different than a tracking pole goes up and down.
There's no up and down here.
We have a plunge.
The president yesterday suggested we're getting to the point where profits and earnings ratios are approaching that point where you want to invest.
Mr. President, there is no profits and earnings ratio.
It's price and earnings ratio.
President of the United States.
He doesn't know anything about the stock market.
He's admitted it before.
Let's talk about it anyway.
You want to maintain it's a tracking poll?
I'd love to talk to you about that.
Let's talk about all of these things, Mr. President.
Let's go and have a debate on this show.
No limits.
Now that your handlers are praising themselves for promoting me as the head of a political party, and they think that's a great thing, then it should be a no-brainer for you to further advance this strategy by debating me on the issues and on the merits and wipe me out once and for all.
Just come on this program, let's have a little debate.
You tell me how wrong I am, and you can convince the rest of the American people who don't agree with you how wrong we all are.
You're a smart guy, Mr. President.
You don't need these hacks to front for you.
You've debated the best.
You've debated Hillary Clinton.
You've debated John Edwards, you've debated Joe Biden, you've debated Dennis Kucinich, you've debated um you've debated um well, you've debated the best out there.
You are one of the most gifted public speakers of our age.
I would think, Mr. President, you would jump at this opportunity.
Don't send lightweights like Bagala and Carville to do your bidding.
And forget about the ballerina, Emmanuel.
He's got things to do in his office.
These people compared to you, Mr. President, are rhetorical chum.
I would rather have an intelligent, open discussion with you, where you lay out your philosophy and policies and I lay out mine.
And we can question each other in a real debate.
Any time here at the EIB network studios.
If you're too busy partying or flying around giving speeches and so forth, then send Vice President Biden.
I'm sure he would be very capable of articulating your vision for America.
And if he won't work, send Geitner.
Now we can talk about the tax code.
And if that won't work, uh go get Bob Rubin.
Or go go go, I don't care, Son, whoever you want if you can't make it.
You don't need to be leaking stories to politico like this thing that's published today.
You don't need to have your allies writing op-eds and all the rest.
If you can win at this, then come here and beat me at my own game.
And get rid of me once and for all.
And show all the people of America that I am wrong.
In fact, Mr. President, you know what?
I know these are tough economic times, and you're trying to convince people that you're saving the taxpayers' money, that you're cutting spending, that you're cutting the deficit.
In that vein, I, Mr. President, will send my jet, EIB 1 to pick you up and bring you here and take you back to wherever you want to go.
You'd love it.
I mean, it's not as big and luxurious as your jet, but it's got enough seats for your Secret Service detail.
But it is something to behold.
I'm very proud of it, Mr. President.
I worked for it.
I uh paid for it.
Uh taxpayers pay you for your travel.
Uh nobody pays me for mine.
I pay for it.
I pay for the airplane, I pay for the travel, I pay for practically everything I do.
Uh we can talk about that too.
Can tell you what that's like.
And once you land, by the way, I have a fleet of SUVs, because I have guests here all the time.
I got four or five SUVs, I can send a caravan to pick you up.
I'll even put you up at the breakers.
It's a five-star resort.
I'll do it all on my dime.
We don't want the taxpayers footing any of the bill for this.
And my jet burns a lot less fuel than your two.
And your C-130 to bring your limousine and SUV caravan here.
In fact, you know what, Mr. President, I'll tell you what I will do.
If you will do this, I will promise to order some wag you Kobe beef, $100 a pound, just like you serve at your cocktail parties and your Super Bowl party.
I'll get it from Allen Brothers in Chicago.
Since you like that, I know you like hundred pound, uh hundred dollar per pound beef, you serve it at the White House, but I'll cover the cost.
I will cover the cost, Mr. President, so that the taxpayers do not have to pay for it as they did your Super Bowl party and as they do your Wednesday afternoon cocktail parties.
So you have no excuses.
Your flunkies are demanding this debate.
Your flunkies are targeting a private citizen with an enemies list that so far has three or four names on it.
Mine, Rick Santelli, Jim Kramer at CNBC, and let's not forget Joe the Plumber, who your allies in Ohio also tried to destroy.
The difference is that Joe the Plumber does not have his own microphone every day.
They're shutting Santelli up at CNBC.
They're gonna shut Kramer up pretty soon, too, but he'll go he'll go down uh with a fight.
But that isn't going to happen here to me.
I'm calling.
I'm ready.
I'm I'll do everything I can to facilitate it.
The very courageous man, Mr. President, and I am, after all, just the last man standing.
If you take me out, if you can wipe me out in a debate and prove to the rest of America that what I say is senseless and wrong, do you realize you will own the United States of America?
You will have no opposition.
You have America's media in your back pocket.
It's amazing.
In 1972, Richard Nixon had an enemies list.
And the media was outraged by this.
They were out at the same time, those who weren't on it were a little jealous.
But they were outraged that a president would engage in this kind of behavior toward the media.
Now they go after a private citizen.
Ram Emanuel leading the team, going after private citizen, and the drive-by media applaud, get on board, and help further the mission.
We live in different times.
So if you can wipe me out, and by the way, Mr. President and Mr. Emmanuel, don't make the mistake of assuming I'm wiping myself out here in the process.
I want to thank you guys for uh elevating me beyond the stature I already earned and achieved, because now more and more Americans have the opportunity to learn who you really are, what your ideas will really accomplish, and what damage and harm I think your policies will bring for a very, very long time to them and to this country.
So I want to thank you for the opportunity.
Obviously, it's a threat, targeting me.
I've extended the invitation.
Looking forward to hearing back from whoever in your cabal, one way or the other, on accepting my offer.
Back after this.
You know, some days the idiocy of the media surprises even me.
I just now watching during the break, PMS NBC.
And by the way, don't expect anybody in the media to ask Robert Gibbs about the political story today that shows Emmanuel leading Bogala and uh and Carbell, probably Stephanopoulos, too, uh, in this in this plan to demonize me that they've been doing since last fall.
We now know it's on the record, uh, folks.
Uh I don't it's a three-page political story.
I don't have to, I don't want to read the whole thing to you, but the headline, Rush Job inside the Democrats' limbaugh plans.
And uh it's it's uh it's a celebration.
Jonathan Martin of the Politico celebrating the brilliance of the administration and coming after me.
Totally in the tank.
Jonathan Martin got to put him in the butt boy bubble of media people along with Ed Henry.
You know, Jake Tapper, by the way, was told he was not put in a butt boy bubble yesterday by me.
And he said, I'm glad about that.
It sounds like it's kind of smelly in there.
That was that's that's one of the things he tweeted in uh response to it.
I gotta put Jonathan Martin in a butt boy bubble.
These guys are just ecstatic.
There won't be any questions of Robert Gibbs about this inside.
This is a plumber's operation.
Inside the White House uh effort to come after me.
It won't be one.
So I'm watching anyway.
There she is.
I don't even know who it is.
Uh but some woman is answering questions about the the it's it they're still stuck on me and Steele.
I guess I should tell you what happened.
Steele called me Monday night.
He told me what happened, he apologized, he said, We're on the same page.
I want the same things you want.
I said, Mr. Steele, look, I'm I understand I it's time to move forward.
It just it's this I don't take these kind of things personally.
I thought you gave up an opportunity or two to you know to say some really brilliant things when you're on the D.L. Hughley show on CNN, but you know, we we put it to bed.
That's I haven't talked about it much because as far as I'm concerned, it's over, but these guys are still focusing on it.
I get this.
The uh the brilliant butt boy David Schuster is the host of this thing going on on PMSNBC.
He's got this guest, and they're just supposedly wringing their hands over the lack of leadership of the Republican Party.
Oh, it's so hell horrible.
We get this, get this.
At some point, ladies and gentlemen, the brilliant Obama and Emmanuel will find some Republican they can work with to advance the Obama agenda.
Uh bulletin drive-by's Obama can do whatever he wants without one Republican vote.
His problem is Fissures popping up in his own party.
You people in the drive-bys are astounding each and every day.
This is from the uh uh CQ.
What is C Congressional Quarterly?
Democrat representatives Jim Matheson of Utah, Gabriel Giffords of Arizona have joined a quiet revolt in the House.
That could slow some of Obama's fast moving priorities.
The two are among 49 Democrats from congressional districts that backed Senator McCain in the presidential race, and whose support for the Democrat majority's progressive agenda is increasingly not assured.
A dozen of them were among twenty House Democrats who voted against the 410 billion omnibus spending bill.
On February 25th, another group later forced House leaders to sideline a contentious bill to allow bankruptcy judges to modify home loans.
They have succeeded in that, by the way.
From the politico, moderate Democrats feel sticker shock.
Moderate and conservative Democrats in the Senate are starting to choke over the massive spending and tax increases.
In Obama's budget plans, they begun plotting to increase their influence over the agenda of a president who is turning out to be much more liberal than they are.
Turning out to be always been much more liberal.
And uh they don't they don't know who the guy is.
Uh it's not the Obama that they knew.
There are other stories in this stack.
I will continue informing you when we come back.
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Let me reiterate, I I'm I'm very serious about my offer to debate President Obama on this program to send my airplane to pick him up, save taxpayer dollars, to buy the hundred dollar a pound beef for the uh post-debate uh party.
Uh I'll buy that, I'll buy that, I'll put him up at a hotel.
No taxpayer dollars to be spent on this.
Why wouldn't he want to come talk to me?
They have made me the head of the Republican Party, and he wants to be bipartisan.
And he's got his minions out there on television saying, well, eventually President Obama will find somebody he can work with on the Republican side to advance his agenda.
I'm here.
I'm here to be persuaded.
I have been named the leader of the Republican Party.
The Democrats inside the White House, Obama and Ram Emanuel have seen to it.
The de facto head of the Republican Party, I've not sought it, didn't campaign for it, but apparently they have named me, so why not come talk to me, the Grand Poo Bah?
The head honcho.
Why waste your time with those guys in Washington?
You can't get them to get on board with you anyway.
You might have a better shot with me, Mr. President.
And if you want bipartisanship, I mean.
What I mean, what what better definition of bipartisanship could there be than you coming to debate me on these issues of the day.
This is not, Mr. President, a cheap trick just to get an interview.
It is exactly as I laid it out.
Now here's more from the stack I put together today of the dissension starting in the Democrat Party from the politico.
Moderate Democrats feel sticker shock.
They're beginning to get very, very worried over the agenda of a president who is turning out to be much more liberal than they are.
The anxiety that moderate and conservative Democrats in the Senate are feeling about Obama's agenda is potentially significant, says the politico.
In the House, moderate Democrats have much less leverage to slow action on a majority that under Pelosi is eager to embrace the boldest and most expensive parts of the agenda.
But in the Senate, where it takes 60 votes, if there are some defection there, and there are.
Russ Feingold wants the president to veto the budget bill, doesn't like it.
There are a lot of people upset about this.
Senator Martinez, this is from Fox News.com.
Uh Senator Mel Martinez here in Florida working with Democrats to kill the omnibus spending bill.
Congress faces a tight Friday deadline by which the 410 billion dollar omnibus spending mill must pass to fund the majority of government agencies now running on a temporary spending measure.
If it doesn't pass, the government would either have to shut down or another temporary measure would have to be hastily crafted.
There won't be a shutdown, but I mean this is this is what's uh what's uh what put possibly happen if they don't come to an agreement.
Martinez is a Republican.
There are Democrats working with him.
And then a fascinating story.
Do you remember the Caterpillar incident?
This is just an amazing story, and another reason, another reason why I am so grateful for the Heritage Foundation.
They and I'll tell you, they are just doing some fabulous, fabulous work in shoring up our end of things.
You know, I say I'm the last man standing here, but I have a support crew and a support staff at the Heritage Foundation, which uh which I cherish.
Here's let me give you the scenario of what happened in case you have forgotten.
One day, it happened to be a day prior to President Obama flying to Peoria to meet with the president of the CEO of Caterpillar.
The president announced that he had talked to the CEO of Caterpillar, and the CEO of Caterpillar had assured him that he was going to start hiring people after the stimulus bill was passed.
He'll start rehiring laid-off employees.
Well, we go to the next day, and after the event is over, and the reporters get to the chairman of the company, Caterpillar says, Well, no, no, not really.
We're facing uh some more hard times before we can actually start hiring people back.
But that didn't make much coverage in the drive-by media because all they were interested in was promoting Obama's photo up and his lie, as it turns out, it was a bold-faced lie.
It was a bold-faced ambush, it was a bold-faced example of manipulation, where the CEO of Caterpillar was tricked into saying that he would hire new workers if the stimulus bill were passed.
The Heritage Foundation put on a conservative bloggers briefing yesterday, and a congressman showed up, Aaron Schock.
Now, Aaron Schock is 27.
He visited the conservative bloggers' briefing at Heritage yesterday, and he spoke on a range of issues.
But he told a particularly interesting story regarding a visit with President Obama to the Caterpillar plant in Peoria, which is Aaron Schock's district.
Now, the giant plants on the east bank of the Illinois River, it's home to Caterpillar.
The and by the way, Caterpillar makes makes more than just just you know heavy equipment.
Uh they make construction and mining equipment, diesel and natural gas engines.
They make industrial gas turbines.
The CEO is Jim Owens.
And in response to Obama's claims of the stimulus bill's power to create jobs.
Remember, he said, I think realistically, no.
The truth is we're going to have to have more layoffs before we start speaking again.
This happened on February 12th.
The February 12th speech in Aaron Schock's home district merited him a ride on Air Force One, which Aaron Schock took, said the president didn't lobby him heavily.
It was really when we got in front of everyone that he began doing that.
So, believing he was on friendly turf, Obama called out the young congressman at the beginning of his speech.
Obama said, Congressman Shock, where is he?
Oh, he's back here.
It's right there.
Stand up, Aaron.
There was applause.
Aaron's still trying to make up his mind about our republic recovery package.
So Obama said, you know, he has a chance to be in the mold of Bob Michael.
And Ray Lahood.
And so we're we we know that all of you are going to talk to him after our event, because he's a very talented young man.
I got great confidence in him to do the right thing for the people of Peoria.
Shock said yesterday at Heritage, I was surprised to be called out the way I was.
His next line, shocks, drew a lot of laughter from surrounding bloggers.
The funny part was I stuck around for 45 minutes while Obama was in there taking pictures.
And the Caterpillar, and we reported this to you.
This was known.
The caterpillar employees came up to me and they said, Hey, Aaron, stick to your guns.
This this is a bad bill, this stimulus bill.
He said the irony was that the local United auto workers in Peoria didn't even endorse Obama's stimulus bill.
Later, through calls and emails, caterpillar employees continued to urge Aaron Shock not to vote for the stimulus bill.
And Aaron Schock said I had 1,400 caterpillar employees alone urging me to vote against it.
After the rally, Aaron Schock, the president, and the CEO Jim Owens boarded Air Force One.
Aaron Schock said he sat nervously next to Owens because he believed Obama.
When Obama had said Owens supported the stimulus.
He says, I know Jim Owens is a guy's a PhD, he's a graduate of Wharton.
This guy's smarter than this.
I don't think this is something he'd say.
So I got on a plane, Air Force One, and I leaned over to Jim Owens, CEO at Caterpillar.
I said, Jim, are you really promoting the stimulus bill?
Here is Aaron Schock paraphrasing what Jim Owens' response was.
Aaron, I got ambushed.
The president called me up and said, Jim, what would it take for you to rehire people at Caterpillar?
Owens responded by saying if a responsible stimulus bill was passed, he'd be able to rehire workers.
So the president left that phone call, went out and said the CEO of Caterpillar said that if my bill passes, we'll make a couple of assumptions.
First, that his stimulus bill was responsible, which it wasn't, and number two, that it was going to get the economy going and which it didn't.
So Obama tricked the CEO of Caterpillar into supporting publicly his stimulus.
And Aaron Schock revealed this at a little seminar at Heritage yesterday.
So what would it take?
What would it take, Mr. Owens, to get you to support my stimulus?
A responsible one.
So Obama goes out the next day.
He supports it.
He's going to rehire workers.
Well, he hadn't started rehiring workers.
This is Barack Obama.
This is the White House of Ram Emanuel and Barack Obama manipulating, ambushing supposed supporters, misleading them, and using them to advance an agenda they do not support.
This kind of thing is starting to happen more and more.
It's going to be a long there's not massive fallout right now, but there is not unity in the Democrat Party.
Do not believe for a moment that there is.
Opportunities abound, ladies and gentlemen, to stop this.
Opportunities abound to at least put some boulders in the road and slow this down.
At some point, the America that we know, the America that we love, the America that we all want to succeed, its survival is going to depend on this administration being stopped.
Back right after this with much more.
Stay with us.
Hey, can I can I ask you a question here before we go grab a couple of phone calls?
If you've got Russ Feingold, and if you've got moderate Republicans or Democrats in the House, if you have a number of other Democrats in the Senate who are opposed to some of this and want Obama to veto it, couldn't you say that they are interested in it failing?
Couldn't we say that?
Couldn't we say this accurately that now Democrats, some Democrats want some of this to fail.
Now, why would that be?
Do you think my maybe they're hearing from their constituents?
You think I think so, ladies and gentlemen?
I think a number of you are calling your Congress critters, whether they be Republicans or Democrats, and you're unloading on them.
And then you dutifully hear the influence of your phone calls by hearing some of these people we can't do this.
We got this is overloaded, earmarks and so forth.
So I guess there are now some Democrats on Capitol Hill who want some of this to fail.
Uh meaning They're coming over to my side on this.
Now to the phones to St. Louis and Steve.
I'm glad you called, sir.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Rush, I I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of confused.
I don't understand why you would want to have Obama debate you.
Uh and the reason being, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to I want you to be honest.
For the past eight years, have you not embraced the policies of George Bush and the Republican Party?
And if you have, if you have, if you have those policies, look where we are now.
The policies.
This is a nice try.
No, there's no try.
It is.
It is.
It's a nice trick.
I know about certain population centers in St. Louis.
I don't know where your house is, and I don't know where you live, but we can find out.
You have embraced the policies.
That's what Gibbs said.
That's what Gibbs said about Santelli.
They did not.
You're still there, sir.
Well, you what name for me the policies of George W. Bush you remember me supporting, sir.
You for eight years you haven't ever discounted any of his policies.
You haven't ever said that any of his policies did not work.
Sir, who do you think helped lead the fight against Bush's desire for amnesty for illegal aliens?
Who do you think led the fight against who do you think what would you do differently?
What would you do differently?
I opposed it totally.
What would I do differently?
I also differ.
I also announced that.
No, no.
Don't change premise your questionnaire, sir, or your channel.
I'm not.
You're not answering your own.
You called up with a false premise that I have blanketly agreed with George W. Bush.
Therefore, how can I possibly debate Obama?
I'm answering your silly question.
I opposed Medicare, the new Medicare entitlement.
Republicans don't do entitlements.
I cringed at some of the spending the Bush administration was doing.
I came to the defense of rub Republicans in the House who were horn swoggled by all this because they dare not oppose their own president for the sake of uh of party unity.
I opposed the new tone.
Uh Steve, I oppose from the outset the idea that the Bush administration was more friendly with its enemies than with its friends.
Uh I oppose steel tariffs.
I oppose campaign finance reform.
I oppose the education bill.
And that bailout didn't go well down here either.
I didn't, I wasn't supportive of that bailout.
The TARP money So nice try.
That's why I say nice try.
You need to expand your horizons on who I am beyond some of these cheap little propaganda sites disguised as news sites.
Who's next on this program?
Uh Robin Binghamton in New York.
Nice to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hello, my name is Rob Kilmer, and I heard what you said about debates, and I have a simple question for you.
Yeah.
Yes or no?
Are you willing to debate the future of this nation and defend your position one on one in prime time national television with a prominent Democrat, whether it's Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Rahm Emanuel, whoever.
I don't I'm not talking a radio interview.
I'm talking the real thing, a true debate.
Are you willing to do it or no?
I established the terms.
The terms are the President of the United States.
It's he who is attacking me.
I thought it was Ram Emanuel.
Well, who does Rama Manuel work for?
Well, I mean it's not it's it's Ram Emanuel as opposed to Carval and McGala.
They're just pretenders trying to get rich again on the on the back of my fame.
So you it it has to be on your terms that you will defend your position that and you want to convince everybody in the nation that you're right, as long as it's either airily defined.
Why would I want to give a television network, any television network, which for the last number of years has done its best to trash me, any of them.
Why would I want to give them the benefit of this?
I made my offer.
It doesn't Well, wait a minute.
I I thought it was about what's best for the nation.
It kind of sounds like what's best for Rush Limbaugh.
It is.
Well, are you willing to defend your position in front of a nationally televised audience or not?
Not radio, not where you control the format.
Have the guts to take your position out there.
Risk.
Convince people you're right.
Are you willing to do it or not?
There is no format you missed.
There is no format that I create.
It will be a standard debate, just like they do on television.
No, on television.
Three hours.
No.
Why not?
Well, I'll do three if he wants to stay that long.
I'll do six if he wants to stay that long.
National television.
Not really.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Are you saying that you have a traditional television?
Same difference.
I set the I set the terms.
That's that's not an idea that's about an agenda that's a good idea.
Wait a second.
Wait a philosophy.
You don't get to set the terms either.
Last I knew, President Obama has done all kinds of debates where the agenda has not been set by him, where the agenda has been set by Tom Brokaw, or whatever the moderator is, Gwen Eiffel or something.
I think the onus is on President Bomba Obama to step out of his comfort zone.
The onus is on President Obama.
I extended the invitation.
I'm here.
I'm willing.
I'm able.
And they can put a camera in here.
Doesn't there's one in here already anyway.
I hate it, but it's here.
As far as my offer to debate, I won't Obama, I do not want to flunky.
This is leader to leader.
This debate is right here on the radio, right here on my 600 stations.
Obama voters are getting scared, snurdly reports being swamped by liberal callers who want to uh try to pick holes here in my offer.
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