Feb. 4, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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| Hey, great to be with you. | |
| It's uh Mark Stein today. | |
| Mark Belling will be in tomorrow. | |
| It's uh it's some new federal regulation. | |
| Every uh radio show uh now has to have at least uh three marks uh for its guest hosts. | |
| It's some some variation of the fairness doctrine. | |
| Not enough marks, there's not enough marks on the radio. | |
| You know, uh Air Air America well they uh Air America had marks, yeah, because they were uh they were Marxists, so they had way too much marks. | |
| But uh uh but wait just here we have me and then we got Mark uh Mark Belling in tomorrow. | |
| And we were talking about I said, you know, essentially Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at the end of the last hour, uh that uh what happened was they were set up to give uh mortgages to people who wouldn't normally qualify for a mortgage. | |
| And H.R. got all kind of indignant dignity with me and he said, Don't you understand that there is now the human right to a mortgage in America? | |
| And uh and he was like you know, he was uh he didn't really mean that. | |
| But you've got to be very careful when you use these terms. | |
| Uh I'm I mentioned yesterday I ran into some difficulties with the Canadian Human Rights Commission. | |
| The human rights commission up in Canada actually thinks there is a human right to a mortgage. | |
| Uh and and that the fact that you earn no money, the fact that you're totally irresponsible, the fact that you have no way of repaying the loan you've taken to get this house should be no obstacle to you getting that house, because there should be a human right uh to a mortgage. | |
| Uh you've got to be always very careful about making jokes about these things because th we live in such a crazy world. | |
| You make a joke about something, next thing you know it comes true. | |
| I I um uh c uh a few years ago when this phrase undocumented immigrant started uh coming into fashion. | |
| I couldn't believe that you could people could seriously use this thing, undocumented immigrant. | |
| Because for one thing it's not true actually, they've got tons of documents. | |
| They've got fake driver's licenses and uh fake social security numbers, all the and actually a lot of the time they got genuine driver's licenses and genuine social security numbers. | |
| They've got all the documents they need. | |
| But I started when the this phrase undocumented immigrant came in, I started using this phrase undocumented Americans, you know, fine upstanding members of the undocumented American community. | |
| Next thing I know, Senator Harry Reid is there on the floor of the Senate uh saying we need to pass this amnesty bill so that all these undocumented Americans can come out of the shadows. | |
| The undocumented American phrase jumps from a cheap joke and becomes reality. | |
| You always gotta be very careful in this day and age about making a joke about uh some of these things. | |
| Uh so no, I don't want to accept the human right to a mortgage. | |
| Uh I don't think that's the case. | |
| You interfere with the market uh and what you do is uh you you in in the end destroy the market. | |
| And uh although most of the blame attaches to people like Barney Frank, uh in a sense, uh an element of the Republican Party got succored because they understood that home ownership is a good thing. | |
| That generally speaking, uh home ownership is good for society. | |
| When people own their homes, uh they become interested in uh in economic growth and liberty and the other features that spur economic growth. | |
| Uh if you have a city where most people rent, uh generally speaking it becomes a uh it becomes a kind of socialist basket case. | |
| So property ownership is uh explicitly connected uh with liberty and with economic opportunity. | |
| But if you destroy the basis of home ownership, if you just say there's no uh na anyone can own a home now, we'll destroy the meaning of the phrase home ownership, we'll give these ridiculous mortgages uh at ridiculous rates that bear no relation either to the value of the property or to this guy's ability to repay the loan, then what you're doing is actually undermining undermining home ownership uh and uh and and uh destroying the very uh the the very qualities it brings to an economy. | |
| And we were talking earlier in uh in the last hour uh uh about putting a floor, a floor, as the caller put it. | |
| I think it was Bob in Kalamazoo on the um a Dave in Kalamazoo. | |
| Uh uh putting a flaw on the housing crisis and uh and actually helping bottom out the housing market. | |
| Well he's a builder and he knows uh that uh before you can uh have a floor, you've got to have a proper foundation, uh you've got to have struts, uh you've gotta have a sub floor, and then you put your nice uh hardwood floor or your wall to wall carpet or whatever on top of it. | |
| Uh and and the reality is that what uh the the actions Congress took undermine the foundation, undermine the foundation of the American property market. | |
| So we've got a we've got to bear that in mind too. | |
| Um lots of things going on in the club gitmo front, by the way. | |
| Uh You you may remember that uh the president has announced uh his intention to look into the possibility of perhaps setting up a commission to investigate the possibility of looking into uh the viability of the possibility of closing Gitmo in a year's time. | |
| Uh it's interesting to know now, what what's going to happen to all these fellas, you know, uh from uh Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. | |
| When I went there, by the way, they were in terrific shape. | |
| I ate the same food when I went to Gitmo as uh the uh uh as the uh uh the uh jihadist seat, and it's uh it was a huge it's uh like a huge thing. | |
| Um and uh I mentioned yesterday that these tall, thin Afghan men that you see when you wander around Afghanistan, when you go to Gitmo, these are the most corpulent Afghan I've never seen Afghan guys this overweight. | |
| Uh and I don't know whether this is some kind of CIA strategy, so that when they're released and they go back to Afghanistan, they're too fat to get the suicide uh bomber belt around them. | |
| You know, this is a real problem. | |
| They've been in Gitmo for three or four years, they bulked out, uh, you know, they're 260 pounds, turned eighty pounds now, and they go back and uh uh and the guy says, the g the head guy in Waziristan says, uh we'd like you to uh we'd like you to go to that U.S. military base and blow yourself up, and they say, Well, I c I'd love to. | |
| I can't get the I don't know what's happened, I can't my old Centex belt doesn't seem to fit anymore. | |
| Uh but they were but they're living on a terrific diet uh over at Gidmo, and uh uh a couple of them, I think uh the the uh couple of them who were returned to Pakistan said about six months later that they really miss Gitmo. | |
| They're having a terrific time there. | |
| Anyway, the Gitmo uh Gitmo uh suspects, uh detainees who have been returned to uh productive life in society, they're never not in the news. | |
| This is um from the New York Times today. | |
| Uh Dubai. | |
| Eleven Saudis who were released from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and then passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists. | |
| By the way, how likely do you think a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists, how effective would you say that was likely to be? | |
| Uh uh a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists are now believed to have fled the country and joined terrorist groups abroad, Saudi officials said Tuesday. | |
| Well, there's a surprise. | |
| So another eleven Saudis uh released from Guantanamo Bay, they've now rejoined the jihad, uh, and they're gonna be showing up in various bits and pieces at a suicide bombing near you uh sooner or later. | |
| Uh the fact is, you know, we've been grossly sentimental about these uh these fellas in uh in Guantanamo Bay. | |
| You know, everyone thinks, oh, the poor fella, he's he was just some uh he was just some pushtoon yak herd who happens to be standing on the wrong battlefield in Afghanistan, and the next thing you know, he's in Guantanamo and all his rights have been taken away from him. | |
| You know, the average uh the average Pushtun Yak herd does not generally have two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in hard currency on him and uh one of these uh GPS uh satellite things. | |
| The thing is, uh most of the people who are in Gitmo uh are in a legally dubious zone, but they are dangerous people. | |
| Uh you know, uh President Obama, when he was talking about the release of Guantanamo detainees, and as I said, we've just seen a typical story. | |
| You can see these stories every uh every couple of days. | |
| Eleven Saudis who were released from Gitmo, they've now uh fled the country to rejoin terrorist groups. | |
| Uh President Obama said the other day, can we guarantee that they're not going to try to participate in another attack? | |
| No, Obama said. | |
| Quote, but what I can guarantee is that if we don't uphold our constitution and our values, that over time that will make us less safe. | |
| And that will be a recruitment tool for organizations like Al Qaeda, unquote. | |
| So this guy uh essentially the President's argument is saying that, you know, if we don't uphold our constitution and our values, which by the way means extending the protections of the United States Constitution to everybody on the planet. | |
| You know, the United States Constitution is supposed to apply to the United States and to citizens of the United States and people who live in the United States. | |
| Uh and it doesn't. | |
| Uh it it's now a universal thing. | |
| It applies anywhere. | |
| If I mentioned Mullers in space, uh right at the top of the show, my this new uh sci fi program I'm pitching to Paramount, Mullers in space. | |
| And you can bet that if somebody arrested a muller on planet Zongo, the first thing that would happen is they would say, well, this uh he needs to have his Miranda rights. | |
| He needs to have the full protections of the United States Constitution. | |
| You know, when the Democrats were talking about this thing about the Bush administration, eavesdropping on uh the jihadist phone calls, and they were saying, Well, well, you know, some of these calls are on U.S. numbers, and that's uh that's in breach of the US Constitution. | |
| So now apparently it's not just that US citizens are protected by the the United States Constitution, but so is a U.S. telephone number. | |
| It's like it's like if you've got like uh you got a 202 number, you got a 212 number, you know. | |
| Uh if you're in Vermont, if you're Howard Dean, you'll have an 802 number. | |
| Uh these numbers, it's like these numbers enjoy constitutional protection. | |
| And like that might have made sense. | |
| I mean, that didn't even make sense. | |
| When I uh when I bought my um place in uh in uh New Hampshire, I bought it in uh originally as a vacation place. | |
| So I wasn't living here. | |
| But I immediately uh I got a phone line, I got a fax line, I got a private line. | |
| Uh so I got had three telephone numbers uh in New Hampshire, and uh and if only I'd known that they were protected by the United States Constitution, even though I, as a sinister foreigner, had taken them out. | |
| And now, uh a few years later, you can uh these phone numbers you can go and buy a a Verizon cell phone that will ring out anywhere on the planet. | |
| In my experience, it's uh hard to get it to ring out when you're actually in the United States, but apparently on the rest of the planet it works fine. | |
| So you can w what you have is that people go up and buy huge numbers of Verizon cell phones, uh other American company cell phones. | |
| Uh there was some fellas um in Michigan, near Dearborn, Michigan, who were stopped with mysteriously, it's something like 4,000 cell phones in the trunk. | |
| Now, what was all that about? | |
| Well, that's the point. | |
| The guy the guy sitting in the cave in Waziristan, he has a U.S. cell phone number. | |
| And the uh the Democratic Party, uh so when he calls to uh arrange, you know, the next terrorist outrage, a Bali nightclub bombing, uh Madrid train bombing, London tube bombing, he's using his uh 202, 212, whatever it is, U.S. area code telephone number, and the Democrats wanted to extend the constitutional protections of the U.S. Constitution to telephone numbers that can be used now anywhere on the planet. | |
| Uh the point is Gitmo is serious business. | |
| You know, you can you can mor you can be the kind of moral narcissist who says we need to close Gitmo and return these guys, uh, but when they're returned, they're they uh they rejoin the jihad and they do bad things. | |
| There are two kinds of the idea that there are a lot of innocent people caught up in there is uh is not credible. | |
| Uh by the way, I one thing I uh I like about uh Gitbo is uh the uh there's some people they don't want to return to their home countries because they're uh they're wanted for various activities there. | |
| So they want to go back home. | |
| So America's been trying to find somebody that will take these uh take these uh jihadists. | |
| And uh uh obviously the easiest thing, because you just stick them on the greyhound, is to send them to Canada. | |
| So uh the idea was that we'd be sending all these jihadists up to Canada, uh, where they could live uh productive lives as part of Canadian society. | |
| Because they're, you know, the average jihadist is almost as anti-American as the average Canadian. | |
| So they'd fit in quite well there. | |
| And uh what happened was the Canadians go, Canadians are normally suckers for this kind of thing. | |
| It's like all the radioactive material they found in uh in Iraq, for some reason the Americans shipped it to Canada. | |
| I never figured out what that was about. | |
| Canadians are normally suckers for these kind of things, but they go, Oh, wait a minute, you're proposing to resettle hundreds of jihadists in Canada because they can't go back to their home country? | |
| Well, you know, wait a minute, they're in America. | |
| Wouldn't it be as they're already in America, wouldn't it be more convenient for them to like stay with you in America? | |
| The reality is nobody wants these people. | |
| They're dangerous people. | |
| Uh they're gonna join cells, uh, they're gonna be uh the this idea that they're just, you know, uh high on the hill was a lonely goat herd, and then uh alas, the fourth infantry division came along and picked him up and took him to Gitmo. | |
| These are not lonely goat herds, uh, these are these are bad men who do bad things. | |
| And if you look at the percentage of them uh that have uh re-offended as uh uh as the criminal justice people would say, you would know that when you release these guys from Gitmo, these last diehards from Gitmo, they are gonna go back uh to doing what they do best, which is waging war against the great Satan. | |
| We'll talk about that and lots more straight ahead on the Rush Limbor Show. | |
| More to come. | |
| Mark Stein on the Rush Limbaugh Show from the EIB Network. | |
| You know, I mentioned that story in the New York Times about these uh guys released from Gitmo who have now believed to escape from Saudi Arabia and join terrorist groups abroad. | |
| I love the uh I love this quote from the chief spokesman of the Interior Ministry in Saudi Arabia. | |
| General Mansoor Al Turki. | |
| He's he's appealed for these uh these uh Gitmo jihadists to return to Saudi Arabia and turn themselves in. | |
| Quote, they will, of course, be interviewed and investigated and prosecuted for any crimes they may have committed, said General Mansoor Al-Turkey. | |
| But by turning themselves in before committing any crime, they will have a better chance to be returned to their families, unquote. | |
| That's great. | |
| That's great. | |
| If you don't commit any crime in Saudi Arabia, you'll have a better chance of being returned to your family, as opposed to, you know, spending uh the next thirty years down in the basement with the electrodes clamped where you don't want them clamped. | |
| Uh uh this is now do you begin to understand why these uh these jihadists were having such a great time uh enjoying the uh the backlava from the specially flown-in pastry chef in Gitmo. | |
| I mean, this was a this was a good life for them, uh, and they've got a the uh now we've got this out of side out of mind policy where we're returning them to the likes of General Mansur Al Turki, and you can bet that the average jihadist, if you if you if you've got a choice between Gitmo uh or being returned to General Mansur Al Turkey's care, you're gonna get out of General Al Turkey's care and go rejoin the jihad. | |
| This is going to put more dangerous guys out there in the world uh who are going to be back uh doing the old death to the great Satan dance as soon as they can. | |
| Let's go to James in Atlanta, Georgia. | |
| James, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| Thank you for having me. | |
| My pleasure. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| Uh well, you know, I'm a little off course here. | |
| I you want you're talking about Gitmo, and I agree with you on that. | |
| You're feel feel free to feel free to wander off topic. | |
| It's uh it's it like an it's like an illegal open line Friday. | |
| Uh place is going to hell while Russia's away. | |
| Well, cheers, cheers. | |
| That's wonderful. | |
| Uh yeah, I was uh studying last night with my ten-year-old son, and of course the nine billion dollar s supposed uh bailout comes to mind, and uh and we were talking about the revolutionary war. | |
| And he was you know, we're starting for his little test that he had to take today. | |
| And uh it was interesting because uh we talked about the the Patriots uh the guys who developed our country, they got us to where we are today. | |
| And we we talked about uh one particular reason why what generated the whole concept of the revolutionary war, and it all came down to tax. | |
| Right, right. | |
| And go figure, go figure. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And and here we are talking about taxing Americans to limit to the probably the most that they've ever been taxed in their life and in history, and uh and everyone's standing by and saying okay. | |
| And I I I guess on the word of change. | |
| And uh that's the and you make a very good point. | |
| You know, everyone thinks uh everyone talks in uh high flown ideas about America, but America was founded on an economic argument, uh, apart from anything else. | |
| Essentially, uh you talk about the uh Boston Tea Party. | |
| Uh the British tried to distort the market. | |
| They tried to say to the American colonists, it wasn't a uh by American policy like uh the Obama administration is trying to enforce. | |
| It's uh it was a by is a by British policy. | |
| They had certain uh tea companies uh that they wanted uh to uh to have a hammerlock on trade with the colonies, uh and uh the colonists, bless them, had other ideas. | |
| And in those days, people felt strongly enough about it to say, hey no, big government, uh you don't know best uh w what's w about what economic decisions to make. | |
| Those of us living here, living on the ground, we know best what economic decisions to make. | |
| And they told big government in the former George the Third to go take a hike. | |
| The trouble is now that if George the Third had been running uh in the November election alongside uh Barack Obama and John McCain, George the Third would have been the small government candidate. | |
| That's how bad things have got in the two centuries since the founding of this republic. | |
| I'm not arguing for a restoration of George the Third. | |
| I'm just saying that boy, we could use a guy like that today. | |
| Uh now we'll talk we'll talk. | |
| No taxation without representation. | |
| That is a great slogan. | |
| You know what we're getting now? | |
| We're getting the opposite. | |
| We we we're we're getting people who don't pay any pay uh people who don't pay any taxes but who vote. | |
| Uh and it looks like on present course, fifty-one percent uh will uh of the American electorate won't be paying any federal income tax come the next election. | |
| Well then we maybe we ought to reintroduce the introduce the slogan no uh representation without taxation. | |
| You pay something to the Federal Treasury uh and then you get your say. | |
| We'll talk about that and lots of other stuff straight ahead. | |
| Uh Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show from the EIB network. | |
| Uh more following uh the half hour break. | |
| Real still got a few seconds to go. | |
| Uh got to get more professional at this kind of thing. | |
| Great to be with you. | |
| Mark Belling will be in tomorrow on the Rush Limbaugh Show, and Rush returns on Tuesday. | |
| Uh lots more still to come. | |
| I I got an email from uh a listener called Gail, uh who was uh who uh who who was objecting to my uh criticism of this lady out in California who's had these uh eight uh extra babies, you know, and she's going, Where's freedom of choice people? | |
| Doesn't a woman have a right to her body? | |
| Isn't that what freedom of choice people say? | |
| Wouldn't it be the lady who had six children then made a personal decision to have eight more, wouldn't that fall under the Freedom of Choice Act? | |
| Uh and uh, you know, that's a that's a fair enough point. | |
| There w what she's doing, though, this woman out of California is it's the taxpayers of California who are going to be paying for these uh extra eight kids. | |
| Uh and that's the uh that's the reality there. | |
| When why uh if you if you have six kids and you want to have in vitro fertilization to have another eight, I'm all uh in favor of you doing that if that's really what you want to do, but you should do it on your own dime. | |
| As far as I can understand, this woman is now touting these babies in hoping of getting some two million, four million dollar deal uh that will pay for all the diapers and things she needs. | |
| And maybe that's the solution to jump starting the economy. | |
| Maybe if we all had in vitro fertilization, I'll include me in this, because wasn't there that cockamami story about the guy who gave birth to a baby? | |
| Maybe I should have in vitro fertilization. | |
| And if I uh have eight kids and then someone's prepared to give me four million to do them, uh that's as likely to work as anything in this stimulus package. | |
| So uh maybe uh maybe you're right. | |
| Maybe I've been too hard on this woman out in California when I've been mocking the in vitro fertilization of the economy. | |
| Uh let's go to Joe in uh Minneapolis, uh, which is uh strangely enough, uh it's not just Larry Craig uh central, it's Jihad Central. | |
| Uh strange bizarre uh riot in uh I think it was in St. Paul the other day, where you had a hammer smob and a fatter mob battling each other on the streets uh of uh St. Paul. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| Uh I feel a bit like uh what Henry Kissinger of the Rad Iraq War. | |
| It's a shame both of them can't lose, but for some reason uh uh uh for some for some reason Minneapolis is now the easternmost part of the West Bank. | |
| I don't know what what that's all about. | |
| Joe in Minneapolis, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show. | |
| Good to have you with us. | |
| Hi, Joe, are you there? | |
| No, this is Daryl. | |
| Oh, Darrell, okay. | |
| Well, Darrell, that's close enough. | |
| Daryl from Pennsylvania. | |
| Darrell from Pennsylvania, Joe from Minneapolis, you know, let's not get hung up on the on details. | |
| Daryl, it's great to have you with us. | |
| I just wanted to mention that I think the uh the five hundred thousand dollar limits on CEO pay is a great idea, providing let's not just stop there. | |
| We do the same thing for any former congressmen or senators after they leave, they can only make five hundred thousand a year also. | |
| I think that's a great idea. | |
| That would solve a lot of Dashell's problems right off the bat. | |
| Yeah, you're right. | |
| He's basically made uh five million dollars in nothing flat. | |
| Uh for doing for doing work, no one can quite explain what it is they do, what it is they do. | |
| He's a consultant. | |
| Uh I d I don't even know what to what what he's consulting on. | |
| He's not he says he's not a lobbyist. | |
| Uh he works for a law firm, but he's not a lawyer. | |
| Uh he gets uh he he he's uh but he's a consultant. | |
| Uh when when I first came to Washington, I'm an in you know, I'm a naive young fellow, just straight off the boat. | |
| And I used to go and meet people in Washington, they I'd say, what do you do? | |
| and they'd say, Oh, I'm a consultant. | |
| And I used to assume that this was some sort of CIA cover, you know, that the CIA guys in Washington uh call themselves consultants. | |
| But eventually you meet so many consultants, you think There can't be that many uh CIA agents in deep cover in Washington. | |
| And you realize that it's just a way for uh a lot of fellows like uh like Tom Dashell, who happened to be elected to a couple of times in Congress, uh, to uh cash in on their Rolodex. | |
| And you're right, if the issue is that people uh should not enrich themselves on the taxpayers' dime, which is what it is when we look at these companies that have been taken over uh by the taxpayer and the guys uh the the flop chairman and chief executives of these companies still want to make the ten million dollar bonuses. | |
| Uh if that law does apply to these companies that are now on the taxpayers' dime, maybe it ought to apply also uh to uh fellows like uh uh uh like Tom Dashell, that there may be uh you ought to you ought to be limited and constrained in uh in in cashing in uh on the value of your uh government service. | |
| Thanks, uh thanks for the call, Daryl from uh Pennsylvania, and uh sorry uh I mistook you for a Minnesotan. | |
| Let's go to Tony in uh Washington, DC, Stimulus Central. | |
| Stimulate us, Tony, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show. | |
| Hi, Mark, how are you? | |
| I'm good. | |
| Good to have you with us. | |
| Uh just wanted to call a comment uh on the remarks he made regarding uh terrorist use of cell phones, basically. | |
| Right. | |
| Um you got it all wrong. | |
| Uh I'm uh former NSA employee and I still do consulting in the intelligence community, and the phone numbers is not what is protected under the Fourth Amendment Executive Order 1233 and uh several United States Signal Intelligence Directives. | |
| It is protecting the US telecommunication companies because they are uh owned by US persons uh for the most part. | |
| So because they're using a service provider, then we have to go to the court and get the FISA warrant in order to be able to do our job. | |
| But it's not it's not the phone number itself, it's just the fact that it's a U.S. service provider. | |
| No, and I I take your point. | |
| But what I'm what I was the point I was making was really on the uh practical effect of this, that as you say, you use the term US person, which is a legal uh a legal term uh to cover not just US citizens, but people who are in the United States legally. | |
| So you can be a uh green card holder, or even I understand uh according to some of the debate that Mohammed Atta, who was uh just here on a little flight student visa at uh when he was here in Florida and obviously not doing the full course, he was only learning to take off not out of land and all the rest of it. | |
| Uh that Mohammed Atta, according to some definitions, would be regarded as a quote US person in legal terms because he was here on some kind of student visa or whatever. | |
| So that's a that's a legal definition. | |
| As you say, these companies, uh Verizon US cellular and whatever, uh are owned by U.S. persons. | |
| But they don't just sell to US persons. | |
| If you're a Belgian or you're a Fijian, you can buy a cell phone from these companies and use it anywhere you want to use it. | |
| So that in in practical terms, uh in in practical terms, uh when we're dealing with the actual product, the product is used by all kinds of people who aren't U.S. persons. | |
| That's that's basically that was basically the point I was making there. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And Mohammed Otto was protected uh and defined as a U.S. person uh because he was here on a tourist visa. | |
| So the minute somebody lands in the United States, it's no longer the mission of the National Security Agency and the Department of Defense who controls National Security Agency, it's an SBI issue. | |
| Right at that point. | |
| Right, but but you're but you're saying that i i if you land on a tourist visa, in other words, if you're a Swedish businessman who shows up at uh a JFK or LAX to spend three days here in business meetings for for that protective for that period in law, you count as a uh as a US person. | |
| In t in terms of the Fourth Amendment and electronic surveillance, yes. | |
| Right. | |
| And that's and that's why the system is so messed up and and we need to do something about it. | |
| And I wholehearted with you and Rush and other conservatives on our stance on Gitna uh and other things. | |
| You know, everybody wants to say, oh, it's you know, civil liberties, civil liberties. | |
| Like I said, I was an NSA employee, I'm still involved in the intel in the US intelligence community. | |
| We don't care about what you know whatever politicians are doing. | |
| We care about protecting the nation and that's it. | |
| Mark, thank you for your time. | |
| And thank and thank you for uh for protecting the nation. | |
| That's the priority. | |
| People get complacent. | |
| Uh it it's a famous line about terrorism uh that uh the IRA's message to Mrs. Thatcher after they failed to kill her at uh the Conservative Party conference in uh in England in whatever it was uh nineteen eighty one, I think it was. | |
| Uh and the IRA said uh when she survived the attack, uh you have to be lucky every day, uh we only have to be lucky once. | |
| And there's an and and and there's a reverse of that when you flip it around, that if you've been lucky every day, as America has uh for uh seven and a half years now, since September eleventh, two thousand one, people get complacent. | |
| They don't realize that it isn't luck, that in fact the reason that the uh jihad hasn't been able to pull off an attack and kill thousands of Americans as they did on September eleventh, is because systems have been put in place, not to make it impossible, but to make it a lot more difficult for them to kill thousands of Americans on the American mainland. | |
| Uh and the longer that goes by, the more people say, well, there isn't any war on terror, it's just some uh it's just some thing that Bush and Cheney cooked up to boost the Halliburton share price, uh there isn't really any war. | |
| And people get complacent. | |
| They don't realize that there's a reason uh why uh uh thousands of Americans haven't died in an attack uh uh in one of these fifty states since September eleventh, two thousand one, and in in part uh it's because uh every single day, uh agencies uh of the government uh that uh Bush uh motivated after September eleventh uh are making sure that it's a lot harder for the Jihad to pull that stuff. | |
| Uh this is uh Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show from the EIB network. | |
| We will have more for you straight ahead. | |
| Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the EIB network. | |
| I was uh I was talking about George the Third uh uh ten minutes ago, saying, you know, uh if uh he was if he'd been running in November uh against McCain and Obama, he would be been the small government guy. | |
| The other thing uh I I forgot about uh uh uh George the third is that after he lost the American colonies, he he went kinda mad. | |
| Because it upset him, obviously, you know, it was something it would upset you if you'd lost uh all this nice prime uh real estate in the Atlantic Seaboard, and he went a little uh insane. | |
| But the odd thing is George the Third insane is not as insane as Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi sane. | |
| So even on the even as a l a gibbering lunatic, George the Third still makes more sense uh than Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank do. | |
| Uh let's go to Ginny in Las Vegas. | |
| Uh Ginny, uh thanks for waiting. | |
| You are on the Rush Limbaugh Show. | |
| Good to talk to you. | |
| Well, you are a delight. | |
| I've had so much merriment listening to you the last uh few days. | |
| Wonderful. | |
| Oh, I'm calling about the February 16th Forbes magazine. | |
| Right. | |
| Cover story, Tim Geifner. | |
| Right. | |
| And on page thirty-four, the second column, uh nothing surprises this seventy-six-year-old anymore, but this did kind of get a reaction. | |
| There's just two sentences here. | |
| Some question his technical skills. | |
| He doesn't like math, says one junior Fred Fedestaffer, referring to the sort of PhD-level number-crunching practice by economists. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Can you believe that? | |
| Yeah, well, that's the great thing. | |
| If you don't like math, Treasury Secretary is a terrific job to do. | |
| If you don't like math, if you don't like math, uh being uh big being speaker of the house is a terrific job to do. | |
| Uh if you don't like math, heading heading up a big congressional committee is the because uh there's no you know, you know, like I I I d I wasn't a big uh fan of math myself, and uh uh w th when they teach it now, uh it's all a m a lot more loosey-goosey than it was in my days. | |
| But like when you were doing fractions, you were supposed to get it right. | |
| It wasn't good enough just to be in the ballpark. | |
| It wasn't good uh enough to say, well, you know, uh seventy-three and uh uh and uh thirty-four. | |
| What is that? | |
| It it's not a satisfying answer to say, well, it's somewhere north of a hundred. | |
| You can't do that when you're doing uh you know, grade three math class. | |
| But you can if you're treasury secretary, if you i if you if you speak with the house, you can you say, well, we need a ballpark figure here. | |
| What's the best kind of ballpark figure? | |
| One with twelve zeros at the end. | |
| Who needs to know about math? | |
| If he if he's lousy at math, being Treasury Secretary of the United States is the perfect job for him. | |
| Uh it's not even like filling in your tax return where you got all those uh difficult questions like uh, oh, you know, is is uh my kid summer camp a legitimate business expense. | |
| There's nothing on that. | |
| It's like just add, just add a few more zeros to it. | |
| You know, I saw a call today saying that, you know, we really need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan uh as quickly as possible. | |
| There's a guy in the uh in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette who says, because we really need that ten billion dollars a month that we're spending uh in Iraq, supposedly. | |
| Uh ten billion dollars a month is nothing. | |
| It's nothing. | |
| We're talking now, we have if effectively uh got a whole new scale of government expense that we've la uh introduced uh in the last four months. | |
| You know, I mention I keep mentioning this business of Zimbabwe devaluing its currency because uh uh the the they they've got the highest inflation in the world. | |
| We still have a real currency. | |
| It's like if you go to your like if I go to my little general store in my town in New Hampshire uh and I buy a cup of coffee and a newspaper, it'll cost me just over a buck. | |
| So a dollar is still a dollar in kind of real-ish terms in the real America. | |
| Uh but a buck isn't anything in uh if you're in Congress. | |
| If you're in Congress, you're dealing with this wacky new Zimbabwean unit that doesn't count for anything unless it's got twelve zeros on the end of it. | |
| If you if you uh if you're like Robert C. Byrd, you know, Robert C. Byrd, there's apparently still two acres of West Virginia that hasn't got a building named for Robert C. Byrd in it. | |
| So if you're Robert C. Bird and you're gonna and you're you've been bringing pork back to uh West Virginia for decade after decade after decade, billions and billions of dollars, and you go back there now and you say, well, I brought you billions of dollars of pork, and uh they'll say, hey, get lost, lose it, bring us trillions of dollars of pork. | |
| Essentially that is now the answer. | |
| You know, uh more and more zeros. | |
| It's not if if you take a uh one billion dollars, uh if you got a little uh earmark, a little government program, got a little, you know, the Robert C. Byrd Institute for this, institute for that. | |
| Actually, I believe there is a Robercy Institute for this and a Robercy Institute for that. | |
| But if, you know, the the the if if it's got uh if it's uh just a mere billion dollar expense, it's a uh it's it's pork, it's an earmark. | |
| But you add another three zeros to it, and boom, by magic, pork is transformed into stimulus. | |
| Uh and that's that's that's essentially what we've done now. | |
| We've got a real dollar that you use when you go to your general store and you buy a newspaper and a cup of coffee, and then they've got this Zimbabwean dollar that they're now using to work out the federal budget. | |
| No good is gonna come of uh that. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| Uh thanks very much for your uh uh call, Jenny. | |
| This is uh Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show, and we'll have more straight ahead. | |
| Mark Stein in for Rush Limb. | |
| Well, let's let's quickly hear from Jim in San Diego before you go. | |
| Jim, uh we're we're push for time here. | |
| What's what's your point? | |
| Obama wants to put in a bipartisan cabinet. | |
| He's putting in Democrats and Republicans. | |
| So far I can't find any problems with any of the Republicans for taxes that he's pointing in there, but he still keeps coming up with these Democrats that have a problem, so why not just put in all Republicans and it's all taken care of? | |
| Well, you're you're right. | |
| It is a it is a bipartisan cabinet. | |
| It's uh it's got people who don't pay their taxes, and it's got people who do pay their taxes. | |
| This is a this tremendous this is what he means by reaching across the aisle. | |
| He's reached across the aisle to Raylor Hood and Judd Gregg, who do pay their tax boy, Judd Gregg, you know, must feel like a real idiot. | |
| I mean, he he must he must be thinking, wow, why did I get the get the same deal that this Tim Geitner got? | |
| You know, but I I having said that, I do really feel sorry uh for uh for poor old Tom Dashell, because he timed things. | |
| He didn't even raise the question of, you know, he might have a few concerns until Obama got the nomination. | |
| Then he didn't even start notifying people about the concerns until Obama had won the election. | |
| And only when he got offered the nomination did he stick that great big six-figure sum and toss it down the huge sucking moor of of the Federal Treasury, and he didn't even get the job. | |
| You gotta feel sorry for Tom Dashell after the way things panned out for him. | |
| He's down to six figure sum, and he's still not a a cabinet secretary. | |
| This has been Mark Stein uh sitting in for Rush on the EIB network. | |
| I've had a great time. | |
| It's always a great honor. | |
| This is one of the jobs Americans will do, and I'm glad you folks let me do it. |
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