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Jan. 23, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 23, 2009, Friday, Hour #3
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Nancy Pelosi, fit to be tied.
Republicans came out of their meeting with the president today, the congressional leader meeting, and said, hey, it's not our money.
We're not crazy about all this.
It doesn't get spent soon.
It gets put Pelosi came out and said, we won the election.
We wrote the legislation.
It's our bill, and it's going to pass.
And it's also Friday.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida, it's Open Line Friday.
Great to have you with us on another exciting excursion into broadcast excellence.
I am Rush Lynn Boy, this talent on loan from God.
Here's the phone number, 800-282-2882, and the email address, illrushbo at EIBNet.com.
Here's a story out of Alaska involving Governor Sarah Palin.
And what it demonstrates is that you can cut government, but you have to really get far from Washington.
Governor Sarah Palin announced in her state of the state speech yesterday, last night, that she wants to freeze all state hiring except for public safety, but also pursue ambitious projects like a road to Nome, Alaska.
She acknowledged that the state is facing a potential budget deficit of more than a billion dollars because of the drop in all prices.
She didn't propose specific cuts to government programs, but said she wants to freeze state hiring as well as restrict non-essential purchases.
She didn't elaborate on what those are.
The governor said she learned about fighting against long odds, protecting family and putting country first, even when the voters put you second, meaning her loss as the running mate to Senator McCain.
She has previously said, by the way, that she's not enthusiastic about the state of Alaska helping pay for the in-state pipeline, the new oil pipeline there, but she wants to work with private business to make it happen.
She has not laid out a plan, but that could change with the bill she said she would introduce next month.
Now, you know, if Republicans would support Sarah Palin, she can still provide an attractive reminder of what a conservative leader can accomplish when they cut the size of government.
If she actually succeeds in this, I guarantee you she will get rid of the budget deficit of nearly a billion dollars.
She's going to develop local energy sources that are sufficient to run local businesses and homes self-sufficiently.
And she's running a straightforward administration.
So I think this is good.
Let's keep an eye on her.
Let's keep an eye on this and see how it works.
We are in the era of responsibility, ladies and gentlemen, as was mentioned during the Immaculate Inauguration Address on Tuesday by the new president, Barack Obama.
As such, we now learn that President Obama will sign an executive order later today ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortion.
It is a move certain to please liberals and other abortion rights advocates.
The reversal was expected.
The so-called Mexico City policy has been reinstated and reversed by Republican and Democrat presidents since Reagan established it in 84.
President Clinton then ended the ban.
George W. Bush reinstituted it in 2001 as one of his first acts in office.
So it's a Friday afternoon document dump kind of executive order.
It won't get a whole lot of fanfare.
But basically what this is doing is the United States will now pay aid money for abortions around the world during the Obama era of responsibility.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it for responsibility.
Do I hear an Edaboy?
Don't hear an Eda Boy.
Heritage Foundation has analyzed what the Bush tax cuts of 2003 did for the economy.
And they posted it at their website yesterday.
And there's a chart here.
It'd probably be better if you looked at it, but let me go through it.
How the 2003 tax cuts stimulated the economy.
You know what the best stimulus to the economy would be right now?
Not do anything.
Do not do the stimulus bill.
And there's Fox right now taking John Thane to task.
He's the guy that spent $1.2 million redecorating his office with bailout money.
Not a cool move.
I understand this.
I understand it's not a cool move.
But this guy is a piker wasting money compared to the people who are now judging him and are setting out to destroy him.
The Barney Franks and the Chris Dodds of the world.
How do you spend the money?
We give you the best of $15,000.
Who needs $15,000?
We're not going to use the Bethlehem.
It's a ridiculous worth of money.
We do it for orders.
We do for mortgages and homeownerships.
What are you doing?
Just hear it all coming now.
Of course, these guys wrote the book on wasting money.
And how much is Obama going to spend redecorating the residents' quarters in the White House?
He can do it.
There's no problem.
I got no problem.
I support Obama, not his policies.
But how is he going to do it?
How much is it going to cost and how much waste is there?
We're paying for that too.
But somehow the people who the authors of waste never get held to account for it.
How the 2003 tax cuts stimulated the economy.
Six quarters, like a year and a half.
These are numbers from a year and a half before and a year and a half after President Bush's 2003 tax cuts were signed into law.
The gross domestic product, a year and a half prior to the president signing his tax cut bill was up 1.7%.
A year and a half after he signed the tax cut law, the gross domestic product was up 4.1%.
Gross private domestic investment, this is annual growth, gross private domestic investment, was down 0.6% a year and a half before the tax cuts.
After the tax cuts, gross private domestic investment went up 9.8%, almost 10%.
Non-residential fixed investment, annual growth.
This is things other than your house, but a fixed investment, stock, apartment building or what have you, but not where you live.
Non-residential fixed investment was down 7% in value, annual growth in the year and a half before the tax cuts, after the tax cuts, a year and a half later, non-residential fixed investment was up 7%.
The standard and poor's 500, which is an indicator of the Dow Jones industrial average.
The S ⁇ P 500, a year and a half before Bush's tax cut, down 18.3%.
And it was on a downward slope after the Bush tax cuts.
A year and a half later, the standard and poor 500 was up 31.5%.
That's a change of close to 50%.
All of these indicators, including jobs, the source, by the way, the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, and Yahoo Finance, and the tables published by the Heritage Foundation at heritage.org.
Jobs gained or lost prior to, you know, people forget we were in a mild recession when Bush took over in 2001.
We had lost 267,000 jobs.
But after the Bush tax cuts, a year and a half after the Bush tax cuts, we were up 307,000 jobs.
And if you go back and do this for the Reagan years forward, you will find the same thing.
In fact, I would maintain to you that we entered a really, really dangerous down period economically.
Remember, the Clinton administration fudged some of the numbers of American businesses and their annual reports via the Commerce Department.
And then 9-11 happened, and that shook the economy.
We had an amazing economic turnaround and a sustained economic turnaround with prosperity, the stock market through the roof, wages up, numbers of jobs created.
All this time, the drive-by is trying to tell you that you were in the middle of a recession and the next day you were going to die and were headed for a depression, trying to convince you it was not what it was.
Every one of these economic indicators a year and a half after the Bush tax cuts skyrockets up.
Don't do this, Mr. President.
Scan the stimulus now.
Cut the corporate tax rate.
Give people a two or three month holiday on their payroll taxes or income taxes.
It doesn't matter.
If you want to stimulate the economy, you have to stimulate the people in the economy.
And stimulating Washington is not going to accomplish that.
Now, by the way, if you want to see this, just go to www.askheritage.org.
This is just one of the many tools, one of the many things available.
You can join it.
Cheapest price to join is $25, but it's just a gold mine.
It is an encyclopedia of knowledge.
And if we ever do this lobbying thing, Heritage Foundation is going to be part of it.
Now, there may be 501c3 rules involved here, but I mean, these people are the ones in Washington.
There's a couple others that would be excellent at this, but this is a great website, and it's just an encyclopedia.
If you want to know anything past or present, you want to know the textbook conservative solution or analysis of the problem, projected fixes, www.heritage.org.
But look up this chart because how the 2003 tax cuts stimulated the economy.
Because it's right, the blueprint works every time it's tried.
This is why it is so frustrating to see our party throw it away.
But rush, but rush, they can't get tax cuts through now.
They don't have enough votes.
I know, I know, I know.
But now is not the future.
The future is not now.
Yesterday was yesterday, and that was the past.
Today is today.
We can't live tomorrow until tomorrow.
But we can plan for tomorrow by looking at what we're doing wrong today, what we did wrong yesterday and last month.
And there's going to be a chance to once again do this the right way.
The future is now.
The future is now.
If we don't learn from the past, we won't learn from the future because the past is repeated in the future.
You've heard that.
George Santayana.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
So the future is now.
At 3 o'clock today, the future will be Monday at 12 noon.
Back after.
Ladies and gentlemen, stop what you're doing for just a second, will you?
If you're driving, keep driving and pay attention.
But if you can stop, stop what you're doing.
Something profound here that just came across the Bloomberg wire, and I wish to share it with you.
And as a setup, as a preamble, I said last night in the part two of my interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, we were discussing the problems in the Republican Party, and I said split in a number of ways.
And I said, what it really comes down to, Sean, and you've heard me say this from behind the golden EIB microphone.
What it really comes down to is that the Republican Party is made up of a bunch of elites, moderate Rockefeller types.
And the dirty little secret is that they resent being in the same party with a bunch of people who are pro-life because the pro-life people are from the South.
They're southerners, and they like NASCAR and they chew tobacco, and they just hate going to the conventions, the Republican Party conventions, and they get teased by their liberal elite buddies in New York and Boston, and the whole Northeastern corridor in California too, for having these, you know, these deliverance types is what they think of them as, in the same party.
Plus these guys, these Rockefeller liberal Republican guys, their wives are always nagging them about abortion to get the Republican Party to get rid of it because you can't win with it, even though we're two landslides.
Now, I said this last night, and it's probably one of the first times it has been said so directly and powerfully on television.
I've said it on this radio show numerous times.
That's the preamble.
A Bloomberg story out just this afternoon by Heidi Prisbilla.
Republican battle for party chairman Pitt's leaders against the base.
Now, wait, it's not what you think.
Republican leaders' efforts to select a new National Party chairman are stirring concerns among Republican voters.
Tell me if you believe this.
Rank and file, this is what it says here.
Rank and file Republicans are telling their leaders they want a more ethnic gender and age diversity in the party that is dominated by white males.
They also want party leaders to cooperate with President Obama, according to surveys, according to surveys.
Now, let me continue.
After losing the White House in 28 seats in Congress last year, some party leaders still aren't hearing the message from voters who are urging them to claw their way back to power by promoting minorities and striking a less partisan tone, said Rich Bond, former Republican National Committee chairman.
We need, this is Rich Bond, who used to run the party, we need a great deal more tolerance for the other guy's point of view.
Not everybody comes from the South with the same constituency, majority white, homogenous in the South, where all people care about is keeping their guns and taxes.
Rich Bond, yeah, he ran the party back during Bush 1.
I mean, he was president 41.
I met him in Houston.
Now, look, I asked you if you believe this.
This is not the first, well, I asked you if you believe that rank-and-file Republicans, those of you in this audience are rank-and-file Republicans, if you are telling Republican leaders that you want more cooperation with Obama, that you want more ethnic, gender, and age diversity in the party leadership, do you believe this?
They've taken surveys, and this is the surveys of Republican.
The base has come back and said, I do believe it.
I'll tell you why I believe it.
I found something that was published by a, I don't remember his name, but he's a fairly well known in a certain region of the country.
I'm not sure the region either, a religious leader.
It was November 5th.
It's a newsletter to his flock.
And there were four things in the newsletter.
And one of the things is as a Christian, we must cooperate for the good of the country with the new president.
Now, a lot of the people of the Republican Party are Christians.
Some are evangelicals.
Some are Catholics.
And some of their spiritual leaders are advising them that we have to cooperate for the good of the country with the new president.
That it's the Christian thing to do, or that it's the religious thing to do, or that it's the right thing to do.
So I do believe that somebody can go take a poll of a sample of Republican voters and get this result.
What I really believe, what I really believe is what Rich Bond is quoted as saying.
I know it's Bloomberg.
I know it's the media.
But Rich Bond, a former Republican National Committee chairman, we need a great deal more tolerance for the other guy's point of view, meaning liberals.
We need to be more tolerant of them.
He's saying we need to be less tolerant of our own voters, those in the South.
He says not everybody comes from the same constituency as a majority white homogenous district in the South where all people care about is keeping their guns and taxes.
Now, Rich Bond sounds exactly like Howard Dean when he says this.
Now, I believe that Rich Bond said it, and I believe he thinks it, and I think a lot of the other elite, country club, blue blood, the old stereotype of the rich Republican fat cat smoking a cigar, those people are largely Democrats now, but the Republicans still have their elite.
And Rich Bond is typified.
I have been, you know, I know this from personal experience because I encountered it.
I've told you the story.
Big, big dinner party, powerful, powerful people from New York.
It was out in the Hamptons.
And after dinner out on the deck of this stylish seaside mansion, a very powerful name you would know, fundraiser and donor for the Republican Party came up, tapped me on the back, said, what are you going to do about all these religious people in our party?
What am I going to do?
Yeah, they're killing us.
This abortion thing is killing us.
This is back in the 90s.
This is the early 90s.
And they laughed.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
But you're the guy who can talk to him, and you're going to have to get him off of this abortion business or our party's going to die.
And you'd have to say the party's dead, and these guys are running it, are they not?
I have read a little bit more of this Bloomberg story, and it gets worse.
Just shared with you, Rich Bond, a former Republican National Committee chairman, said, we need a great deal more tolerance for the other guy's point of view, meaning Democrats and liberals.
Not everybody comes from the same constituency as a majority white homogenous district in the South where all people care about is keeping their guns and taxes.
You know, I said, it sounds like Howard Dean.
It sounds like Obama in his bitter clinger comment.
It actually sounds more like Barack Obama.
So the Republican Party, which swept landslide elections with Republican voters from the South, would just as soon now be rid of you.
And the reason why is because they have no Republicans in the House from the Northeast.
I read this further.
The hard line taken by the leaders has already cost the party.
This is the conservative hard line.
They're saying there has been a conservative hard line taken by the party.
I would like to see it because it is non-existent.
There has not been a conservative hard line taken by the party.
Anyway, the hard line taken by the leaders of the party has cost the party, which has become increasingly rural and southern.
With the defeat of last year, Representative Chris Shays of Connecticut, Republicans no longer hold any House seats in socially moderate New England.
The party also lost three House seats in New York, one in New Jersey.
Yeah, you know who they're losing them to?
Conservative Democrats.
They're losing these seats to Democrats who are more conservative than these Republicans.
Nothing against Chris Shays, but it was about time.
He was nothing but a rhino, Republican in name only.
I tell you what, what we're learning here, we don't even need to learn it.
We know it.
With these guys, it's party first.
Ideology is second, third, fourth, fifth, maybe not even that high.
If the conservatives walked from the base, the base would be about 30 million people.
Maybe 30, yeah, around 30, because what McCain get, 55 million votes.
And the people we're talking about, the 24 to 24, 30 million people in the evangelical pro-life southern, it's a whole, not in this geographic here, but that's about how many votes they represent if they show up is 24 to 30 million people in a presidential race.
So you'd figure if they bolted, McCain would have gotten 30 votes, not 30 million votes, not 55 or 58.
And that's what they want.
It's just, it's, it's, it, it, it's, it's, I don't know, it's stunning.
And these cultural issues, you know what Obama had to do to wrap up all that?
He had to move to the center during his campaign.
He had to go right.
It is, look at all the blue dogs.
Look at who, what's his face just appointed?
Patterson just appointed this blue dog Democrat who wins in Republican district because she's more of a conservative than the Republicans in her district in New York are.
This party, whoever's running this party is so out of it.
And Colin Powell says, you got to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh.
Trust me, General Powell, they have years ago.
And now they're just being honest about it.
We don't like these supporters we have in the South.
We don't like them.
They're too white, too homogenous.
All they care about is guns and taxes.
So you're looking at it if they...
If they succeed in this, if they alienate 25 or 30 million voters, one thing I don't believe in this survey, I do believe that a certain segment of Republican voters wants to work with Obama, again, from the religious influence here.
But I don't believe most Republicans, that represents a cave-in, at least the most conservatives.
But regardless, we'll take it for what it is at face value because it is what it is.
And it just finally illustrates I have been right about this all along in talking about this party and where it's headed and what they're thinking at the leadership level of it.
Don't ask me what we do about it yet, folks.
They're imploding.
They're doing it on their own.
They're driving you out of it.
All you can do is that the grassroots take it over.
That's had to been done a number of times, by the way.
That's what Reagan had to do.
You wouldn't believe the unsung heroes from 1976 on that were working the grassroots, people like Paul Weirick and Phyllis Schlafley.
You would not believe all the work that was going on without any fanfare to take over the grassroots so that local elections and primary elections and congressional and senate races were won by conservative candidates.
That's where it all starts, and it's where it all stops.
If the grassroots get these people elected, nominated, and then these people go up and don't follow through on the agenda, then the grassroots, why should I work this hard if I'm just going to end up being betrayed?
And the left hardly ever betrays their people because they don't renounce themselves.
They don't renounce what they believe.
Back to the audio soundbites here.
Maureen Dowd on Larry King Live last night.
Larry King said, you know, she has a column and she had dinner with Obama, much like the conservative columnists did.
And here's what she said about it.
It's not more fun if, you know, Obama, as he does sometimes already, gets a little sniffy with me about something I've written.
You're thinking, oh, gosh, the president of the United States is already annoyed by the people.
What does he call you?
No, no, but we had a session with him the other day, and he was trying to make clear that just because sometimes he doesn't react or whatever doesn't mean that he's weak.
It just means that he has a very even temperament.
And so you should be careful how you characterize him.
Yeah, we've seen evidence of this because Obama once told her that references to his large ears made him nervous.
He didn't like that.
And I don't think she ever referred to his large ears ever again.
And King says, has Obama called you?
No, but we had a session with him trying to make clear that just because sometimes he doesn't react or whatever doesn't mean that he's weak.
It just means that he has a very even temperament.
So we should be careful how we characterize him.
That's what he said.
Be careful because you might get me wrong.
And they are whipped.
I mean, it's pure PW.
There's no question it's pure PW'd out there.
They are pathetic.
They've totally caved.
I mean, this is a cult.
It is just so excited.
Last night also on Larry King Alive, John McCain, Larry King said, Rush Limbaugh said, I believe yesterday about this administration.
I hope he fails.
What do you make of that, Senator?
I can't really analyze Mr. Limbaugh's remarks, particularly since I don't know the context.
I think most Americans want this president and this country to get out of this ditch we're in.
If Mr. Limbaugh's remarks were in the context that he doesn't agree with his philosophy, I understand that.
He does want government to solve things.
He wants private industry.
Although, as someone said, private industry is the thing that got him into trouble in the first place.
Well, what I hope is that we can have the kind of economic recovery that will restore business, free enterprise, et cetera.
Then oppose the stimulus bill.
Oppose the stimulus bill.
Lar King epitomizes the degree of ignorance there is in the so-called elite classes of the media.
Private industry got us into this mess?
Have you ever heard of Barney Franklin?
Do you know what he did, Glarry?
Have you ever heard of Chris Dodd?
Do you know what he did?
Have you ever heard of Bill Clinton and the Community Redevelopment Act?
Do you know what it did?
Have you ever heard of Acorn?
It's stunning.
I can understand people who line up at Blockbuster 35 deep on a Friday night when it's too below being ignorant about things.
But it's one of the stunning realizations to understand just how ignorant, not stupid, how uninformed some of the elite media people are in this country.
You ought to look at the New York Times corrections these days.
The mistakes that they make are just are just profound.
The reporters don't have a basic education.
There was one instance they reported somebody, some reporter mistakenly characterized some institution as being 64 square miles when it was eight square miles, eight feet by eight feet, eight miles by eight miles.
They reported it as 64 square or eight square miles when it was 64.
Just basic, ignorant things that they're having to correct here.
Private industry.
They just, you know, the mainstream media does what it does for everybody else in the mainstream media, so the templates are set and always followed.
Back after this.
Ha, how are you?
Great to have you, Rush Limbaugh back.
I want to replay this Maureen Dowd soundbite.
This sounds like she's getting to sound more and more like Helen Thomas, which ain't good.
You'd see if you think the same thing.
It's not more fun if, you know, Obama, as he does sometimes already, gets a little sniffy with me about something I've written.
You're thinking, oh, gosh, the president of the United States is already annoyed by the people.
What does he call you?
No, no, but we had a session with him the other day.
All right, that's enough.
So this is dangerously close to Helen Thomas.
She is.
She's speaking from her throat.
She's speaking from her throat.
Well, I don't sound like that.
You know, you can make your sound sound nasal like I'm doing right now.
It's an elitist manner of speaking.
Mr. Limbaugh, you don't understand the proper manner.
We elites have learned to be Hoivy-20.
Our noses are in the air anyway, and why not speak through them?
Just exactly like Judge Hirchner.
Now, you remember her during the Clarence Tamas hearings at Judge Herchner, Susan Herchner.
I'm Maureen Dowd and speak the same way because this is how we sound smarter and more educated than you.
I, on the other hand, ladies and gentlemen, breathe from the diaphragm.
I do not speak through the throat or the nose.
Jim Vandehye, Vandehey, I'm not sure how he pronounces sure, is on MSNBC yesterday talking about me wanting the Obama administration to fail.
I find this fact that we did not go through five years of the Democrat Party trying to destroy this country.
They want us to lose in Iraq.
They try to talk people into a recession.
They wanted people to hate the U.S. military.
Here I am.
I'm saying, I don't want its policies to succeed.
And all of a sudden, I'm the Indian off the reservation.
I'm kind of laughing because I see that everybody seems obsessed with what Rush Limbaugh said.
He's a conservative.
He doesn't like Democrats.
He has a talk radio show, and his job is to be combative.
And he's saying, you know what?
I don't like big government.
He never has.
I think that you will see frustration build among the rank-and-file conservatives who'd feel like so much money is getting spent and so little opposition is coming from Republican lawmakers in Washington.
Jim VanDe Hay, drive-by media specialist at thepolitico.com.
He's one of the founders.
Back to the phones, Richard in Southern California.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Ditto to the last man standing.
Thank you.
I certainly am that.
After reading this story about where the Republicans going, Republican Party's going.
Honest to God, along with all of you people out there, I feel utterly alone.
It sounds to me, Rush, like the appointee to the U.S. Senate from New York is more conservative than John McCain or many of our Republican senators or party leaders.
It does to me, too, based on what little we know about it.
Absolutely right.
But I'd like to leave you with a note of optimism.
I predict that the Obama bubble, just like the dot-com bubble and the housing bubble, will burst.
And I don't know how long it'll take, but I'm hoping to see that happen soon.
Why do you call it a bubble?
Well, it came on over three years of campaigning.
Bubble is built on false premises.
His bubble is built on hot air and assumptions that aren't true about the future, never-ending growth and popularity.
And I think as we see the truth with Obama in the White House, we will puncture that bubble.
It'll burst.
Well, yes, if we see the truth, who's in charge of us seeing the truth?
You are, sir.
I know that.
I'll hold my end up, but the drive-bys are going to be presenting an entirely different picture.
It's going to be an epic battle, as Saddam Hussein said.
Saddam Hussein Obama said.
It's going to be the mother of all battles.
We heard anything about George Obama in the hut.
It's amazing.
Fred in Richmond, Virginia.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir.
Hello.
Mr. Limbaugh, as you are aware, it's a privilege to speak to you.
Thank you, sir, very much.
Yes, sir.
Were it not for you, I would not have known about the latest Robert Reich gimmick with our infrastructure and who he intends to hire and not to hire.
And being one of those who he intends not to hire, I'm outraged.
You're a white male construction worker?
That is correct.
He doesn't want any of you hired for the infrastructure project.
You've got all the jobs as it is.
It must be.
We must have it all tied up.
And surely you wouldn't want an experienced welder working on your bridge when you can get someone who hasn't a clue which end to set on fire on the torch.
Well, it's not about the work being done.
It's about the work being passed out and getting votes for that work.
By the way, I don't know what I don't think Reich has an official position in the Obama administration.
He said that on June or January 7th, you know, when these egghead pseudo-intellectuals get together to talk about how they would spend the money as though they have any authority to do it, he's just there as a head fake.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Limbaugh, we appreciate all you do for us.
You keep us informed.
We hear through you things that we cannot get through normal channels because there are no normal channels.
I understand that.
Believe me, we are all alone.
Thank you and keep us informed.
I will do so, Fred.
Thanks very much.
Rush Limbaugh, the last man standing.
All alone.
All right.
I have been putting two and two together here.
When I do that, I get four.
That doesn't happen very often in our public schools, but it does happen here at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
That Bloomberg story.
Polls show, internal Republican polls, focus groups, think focus groups, show that the Republican base, a vast majority of Republicans, want elected Republicans to work with the new administration.
And we've all been saying, what happened to Republicans?
Why in the world are they caving?
What is going on?
Maybe we found our answer in the Bloomberg story.
Maybe they are doing these focus groups, and maybe that's what the focus groups are saying.
One thing we know about politicians is they love, believe in, and listen to polls.
So they may have concocted their Republican poll showing Republicans don't want any confrontation with Obama.
They think they're doing what the right thing is.
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