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Dec. 15, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 15, 2008, Monday, Hour #2
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You know, in your own way, folks.
You gotta love Blogo.
You gotta love Blagov Bogoevit.
I mean, just flipping these people in Chicago off.
He's not resigning.
He's not he's not quitting.
He's causing them all kinds of problems.
Great to have you with us, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence at Broadcasting Network, our phone number if you want to be on the program today, 800-282-2882, and the email address L Rushbow at EIBNet.com.
So yesterday, Colin Powell goes on CNN and uh and tells the nation that the Republican Party, which hasn't been listening to me for years, needs to stop listening to me.
I'm not a party man.
I am not a Republican.
I don't do what I do for the Republicans to listen to me.
I do a radio show that has its own requirements for success, which do not include getting certain people elected or having a certain political party be something.
But nevertheless, in spite of all that, after after Powell says, I'm the I'm the I'm the guy that supported the candidate he liked.
He wanted a moderate, stand for nothing candidate.
We got one.
We got McCain.
I'm the guy that supported him.
Powell sabotaged him, stabs him in the back, endorses Obama, and I'm the one that has to stop me listening to.
And then, and then, after with all this Blogoyovich stuff going on, that wizard of Smart McCain's out there attacking Republicans for criticizing Obama and Blogoyovich.
He's out there attacking the Republican National Committee.
I guess the Republican National Committee should stop listening to itself.
Republic the Republican National Committee ought to stop being who it is.
In a surprising rebuke, it's not surprising.
In a surprising rebuke to the warriors who fought for him through the tough times.
Senator McCain yesterday sided with Obama and scolded the RNC for fanning the Illinois corruption scandal.
Stephanopoulos said the chairman of the Republican National Committee has been highly critical of the way Obama has dealt with this.
He's had a statement every single day saying Obama team should reveal all contacts they've had with uh with uh Blogo says that Obama's promise of transparency, the American people's now being tested.
Do you agree with that?
And of course, McCain right on cue.
Well, I think I think the Obama campaign should, and they will give all the information.
Nextory, you know, and you all due respect the Republican National Committee.
I I I think we should we should we should try to be working constructively together.
Not only on issues such as this, but but on the economy.
The stimulus package reforms their national.
I just it's just mind-boggling I, uh, ladies and gentlemen, in the midst of all this, remain the problem.
Try this from the Associated Press today, the headline Obama Mounting Challenges.
Now I I I remind you it was just last week that we had a story from A.P. Obama, which told us of all these questionable people and uh dubious repute that Obama has known for many, many years.
People like um Tony Rescoe.
We didn't know this before the election.
They didn't tell us this before the election.
Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, uh Emil Emil, his real mentor in Illinois politics.
I came from her to last name.
All these people we didn't know.
And now from Liz Sadoti or Sadati, I don't know how she pronounces it, from A.P. Obama, President elect Barack Obama relatively young and inexperienced.
Hmm?
What's that?
Uh read this again.
President elect Barack Obama relatively young and inexperienced.
Well, this goes against everything I thought I knew about Obama.
Is facing a rapidly growing list of monumental challenges as he prepares to take the reins of a nation in turmoil.
Obama said after his election, I do not understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead.
I again I I sit here uh in stunned amazement, because I thought it was all going to get better.
Sea levels were going to recede, and the ice was gonna start freezing again, and people are gonna love us, and the Russians were not gonna be sending warships to Cuba and Venezuela, and Iran was not gonna be criticizing our movies anymore.
Our athletes were not gonna be shooting themselves in the thigh in nightclubs at one o'clock in the morning.
None of this I but now they quote Obama saying, I do not understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead.
And then Liz Sadoti says, it was a sobering assessment at the time.
But the country's problems have only worsened since then.
Now Obama sounds dire, particularly as he talks about the economy.
We're in an emergency, he says, quote unquote.
He spoke during a week in which Congress killed a bailout of the failing auto industry.
The government reported jobless claims spiked to their highest levels in more than 25 years.
And the Treasury Department said the nation registered a record federal budget deficit for November.
With woes foreign and domestic on more fronts than even FDR encountered.
When he took office in the midst of the Great Depression, Obama will be sworn in as the country's 44th president.
Did you know he was going to be sworn in this month or next month?
Well, I guess I'd heard that too, but I his leadership will be tested immediately, and in many ways, his performance in the outset could well set the tone for the president.
Presidency, uh folks.
Um they they can make this as bad as they want to sound, but this is we're not the Great Depression here.
We don't have 25% unemployment.
We don't have people jumping out windows yet.
I mean, some of these Madoff people have yet to be heard from.
But I mean, this this ongoing comparison here to FDR, this is this is just ridiculous.
And most hysterians, uh, sorry, historians, uh, liken the situation facing Obama to that which confronted Roosevelt, but the comparison does not seem to do justice to the colossal challenges Obama's facing, for which he's inexperienced, and for which he doesn't understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead.
See how they're setting him up here?
They're setting us up because they think it's gonna all get fixed and so forth.
He's gonna be the greatest guy in the history of the country.
Most inexperienced, most clueless.
But with the wave of an angelic messianic hand, we'll all get repaired.
Magically so.
Now, back one a couple more things here on Bernard Madoff, folks.
A fifty billion dollar Ponzi scheme, which is what he was running.
I want to put this in perspective for you.
It is nothing compared to the money being invested from the TARP program.
That's a Ponzi scheme.
700 billion in bailouts.
The eight trillion dollars promised to create the Great Society.
Eight trillion dollars since the 60s on the war on poverty and other elements of the Great Society, and an objective undeniable failure.
Madoff's a terrible guy, but his problem was he said, I'm not from the government, and I'm here to help you.
And people bought into it.
If you steal money and you are from the government, it's a whole new ball game.
You can get away with it all day long.
You do it under the rubric of helping people.
You slap a title on the guy like Treasury Secretary.
He's a hero.
Or you make some guy a union boss.
He's a hero.
This auto bailout is a far bigger scheme than Bernard Madoff.
But this, in this case, it's all our money, folks.
Whether we invest as taxpayers or as individuals, the automobile bailout said to be about 15 billion dollars.
You've been scammed.
Try 150 billion or more.
The way things are structured now, it's a financial black hole.
The United Auto Workers leadership is a bandit in this deal.
They are the Frito Bandito.
They are running around and they're getting away with all this.
Investors are gonna get screwed, the public's gonna get screwed, the country is screwed.
Tell me this is not some scheme.
We all know it's a scheme.
And and And Madoff has nothing on our own treasury secretary.
He has nothing on Ron Gettelfinger of the United Auto Workers.
He has nothing on any politician telling us the world will end unless we give them our money.
The country will end unless we give them our money.
They're telling us they will make us better off if we'll just give them our money.
I I've I feel like I said last last hour, I feel bad for the people at this jackass screwed, and he's probably going to go to jail.
I'm told that he looked pretty content and happy when they put him in the car to run him off to be charged at jail.
And I if I'd run this scam for 25 years and lived on the edge, I'd kind of be glad it's over too.
Just in a sense of relief.
But uh given the way things are headed, like I said, the people that got shafted here may want to ask for a bailout.
I mean, they all voted.
The vast majority of them voted and contributed money to Democrat candidates.
Stolen assets are troubled assets, are they not?
And this is this is a troubled asset program, the TARP program, the troubled asset relief program, and Bernard Madoff's assets are certainly troubled.
So put a request in for TARP funds before it's too late.
All these things do come to an end at some point because eventually everybody wants their money and it isn't there.
Now Bernard Madoff might have been able to go a little longer if he could have printed what he needed to pay out to people.
The government can do that.
Madoff could not.
That's the one thing that he did not figure on.
We'll be right back.
Your calls are next.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Russian ball program, serving humanity while executing a signed host duties, flawlessly zero mistakes so far.
Last week we told you how tough it is out there.
For America's parents who have a dilemma.
Do they tell Rachel?
You're a mom, I need to ask you this question.
Economic times are tough out there.
Are you telling your kids how tough they are, or are you buying them whatever they want as always so as to shield them from the pain?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, Rachel is telling her kids, social services will be knocking on your door soon for causing trauma.
She's being honest with her kids.
The big dilemma for parents.
Do you keep spending as usual on your kids or do you not?
Well, the New York Times picks up on this.
By the way, do you know that most after-school programs folks have resorted to cutting hours of operation?
Most after school programs have cut field trips.
Did you hear about this?
This is tragic.
I mean, the people that gave birth to these kids are actually not going to have to stay home with them.
I mean, this is sacrifice above and beyond.
Whoever thought this would happen in America.
You have a baby, you have a kid, and you actually have to be home when it comes home from school?
What kind of screw job is this?
All of this brought to us by George Bush, supposedly in this faltering economy.
Fears are mounting here.
The kids are going to be lost to the streets, forced to stay home alone, maybe turn into gangsters unless we have more money and quick.
I mean, children are already being told that Santa's sack is going to be a little bit smaller than last year.
And as I say, parents have this agonizing choice between spending money as if times haven't changed, or telling their children they can't have everything that they want for Christmas.
And now this.
After schools programs have been shut down.
Maybe people just stop having kids and we wouldn't have this problem.
There's any number of ways to stop having kids.
One's to stop having sex, one's to do sex but not do real sex, one's abortion, any number of ways to spare kids from this trauma.
The New York Times picks up on this even further as the rich get poorer.
Teenagers feel the crunch.
Jody Hamilton began her senior year of Hascrew in Woodcliffe Lake, New Jersey this fall on the usual prosperous footing.
Her parents were providing a weekly allowance of 100 and paying for private Pilates classes, as well as a physics tutor who reported once a week to their 4,000 square foot home.
I hope I'm not going to read here that these people invested with Bernard Madoff.
What is the size of their home have to do with in anything here?
Hundred dollar a week allowance, Pilates classes, a physics tutor.
What's wrong with the teacher?
4,000 square foot home.
But but but but but but but in October, Jody's mother lost her job managing a huge dental practice in the Bronx, then landed one closer to home that requires more hours for less money.
Pilates was dropped, along with takeout sushi dinners.
Jody's allowance, which covers lunch during the week, slipped to 60 bucks.
Instead of having a tutor, Jody has become a tutor, earning 150 dollars a week through that and babysitting.
She's 17.
She said, I just thought it would be responsible to get a job and have my own money so my parents didn't have to pay for everything.
This is the best lesson this kid's ever learned.
And the New York Times writes of this as though this is some kind of tragedy out there.
It's impossible to quantify how many affluent parents have trimmed allowances in recent months, or how many of their children in turn have sought either formal employment or odd jobs.
Well, damn it, folks, it's unreal now.
First, Santa's sack is getting smaller.
Second, agonizing choice over whether to tell them how rotten things are or just continue the illusion things are fine and hunky dory.
Then you'll lose the allowance and you gotta go get a job.
And now you're faced with having to work.
The problem is they're not finding the market welcoming as they go out looking for work.
We have a new syndrome, folks.
I've been waiting for this.
We haven't had a new syndrome in too long a time.
But we have one now.
And this is this is from um just a second.
Do I know this?
I do not know where this is from.
But as the health writer at some wire service, I'm sure.
It's called layoff survivor syndrome.
Guilty and stressed, layoff survivors suffer too.
Employees who remain face extra work, uncertainty, and no sympathy whatsoever.
For nearly a year, Suzanne Beckstrom watched warily as employee after employee was laid off in her office at a small Southern California housing development, one by one.
She said goodbye to construction workers, sales staff, administrative health, even the marketing manager who oversaw her work.
Each time the 60-year-old Carlsbad California agent and housing options coordinator expected to be next, and each time she got a reprieve, leaving her with mixed emotions of relief, uncertainty, and guilt.
Organizational psychologists call it layoff survivor syndrome, the collection of emotional, psychological, physical reactions long documented in workers who remain on the job.
Being left behind, they say can sometimes be as distressing as being let go.
Now that is a crock, and you and I all know it.
Every time you're passed over, you know, when the grim reaper goes by, you go, sh, thank God.
The last thing you do is hey, fire me too, so I'll feel better.
What kind of idiots think we are?
This is exactly what I mean, folks, when I say we've had to go out and invent our traumas.
Layoff survivors, this is whoever wrote this, whatever source this is, they're trying to create layoff survivor syndrome.
They want you to feel like a piece of dung, if indeed you're still working while other people have laid off.
They're trying to create it.
Harold Kaufman, a professor of management and director of organizational behavior at the Polytech University of New York said, in fact, the survivors are also victims.
Now, the survivors are also victims.
We have to invent.
By the way, those of you who live in New York, the uh governor there, David Patterson has come up with a way to raise 404 million dollars.
This morning on WNBC News, the correspondent Glenn Zimmerman.
Another way to save some money, or at least in this case, make some money is the so-called ob tax.
For example, with that, a can of Coke would cost 15% more than Diet Coke.
He is going to raise taxes on fattening items, fat food items.
And so if a can of Coke has sugar in it, a fifteen percent higher tax.
I, ladies and gentlemen, L. Rushbow predicted this December 9th, 1994 on my television show.
Well, they're going to start capitalizing on this discrimination against the fat.
I can see spending caps at McDonald's.
Spending caps at McDonald's, we're going to hear stories about secondhand fat being a health hat.
You know what's going to happen?
You're going to be sitting in that restaurant, and that fat pig is going to be eating unsallad or something, and you're going to say, you know, I'm in the presence of a fat person eating, and I can just sense fat globules all around me.
And it's going to infect me, and I'm going to get fat.
Maybe they'll even have a calorie tax or a grams of fat tax.
I mean, this is just silly.
That's 14 years ago.
And I, Il Roshbow called it.
That's what I mean, folks, when I say being on the cutting edge of societal evolution.
Now the lead this New York Times story, the leader that I just read, as the rich get poorer, the rich are getting poorer.
See, this is as the rich get the rich are getting poorer.
This should be the climactic ecstasy for the left.
My whole life, liberals have been complaining about the rich getting richer.
Now that horrible trend is in reverse.
Madoff wiped out many, many, many rich people.
They ought to be throwing parties at the New York Times.
Not worried about it.
Why can't they be consistent?
And welcome back, Rush Limbaugh.
This is the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Great to have you with us.
And we are happy and honored to uh welcome back to the program the Vice President, Dick Cheney.
Mr. Vice President, thank you.
As always, it's a it's an honor and a delight to have you here with us.
Well, Rush, it's uh great to talk to you again.
Tell me how you are.
You've got uh thirty some odd days left uh in office.
What is this like?
Well, it's thirty-five days to be exact.
Um well I guess the way to describe it is it's not my first rodeo.
This is uh the fourth time I've transitioned out from the public sector to the private life.
And uh you know, I'm looking forward, obviously, to having uh a little quieter time in my life, time with family and so forth, but I'll also miss it.
It's really been a remarkable experience these last eight years, and and uh I'm uh in some respects sad to uh to see it end.
What are you most proud of?
I mean, uh everybody's focusing right now on uh on negative things.
We find ourselves in the midst of a of an uh economic circumstance that uh has people uh unsettled because they don't know yet where it's going in terms of where it's gonna bottom out.
Uh in times like this, though, I mean, uh when when you get reflective, I have a theory that people when they look back on times in their past, that they tend to remember the good things.
Uh what are those for you?
Well, I think uh probably the most significant thing during our time here, Rush, has been the fact that we've been able to stop or disrupt all further Al Qaeda attacks on the on the U.S. homeland.
Uh that doesn't mean there won't be some in the future, but I think the extent to which we've kept the country safe and secure now for the last seven and a half years has been uh probably the achievement that I'm proudest of.
I think it uh required some very tough decisions by the president, some remarkable uh work by some very capable uh military and an intelligence folks who've worked with us.
Does it bother you that uh that achievement is largely missing in uh in present-day historical reflection that uh in fact maybe it's it's uh mischaracterized as not the way you just said it.
Does that bother you, or you let you confident and content to let history handle things like this?
Well, I think you have to let history handle things like that.
You know, we're uh we didn't do it because uh we thought we were gonna be loved.
We did it because we believed very deeply in our obligations to protect the country.
And after 9-11.
See, I would expect to be loved for doing that.
I I would expect to be appreciated for saving my country from uh from evil like we faced.
Well, but it's hard to get credit for things that don't happen.
And uh, in a sense that's that's what we had here.
I think uh I harked back to that day.
Uh I was sitting at the same desk I'm at now here in the West Wing of the White House when we got word that there was a plane headed at five hundred miles an hour towards the uh airspace here over the city after the two billions that are already been hit in New York.
And uh you never forget those moments.
But I think the response is uh speaks for itself.
The terror surveillance program, the Patriot Act, the interrogation program of high value uh detainees, all has made it possible for us to uh to defend the nation.
Talk about the incoming administration for just a second, and one in one regard, one of the uh unfair to me, maybe I'm wrong about this.
One of the unfair criticisms is that you and the president have uh have have spent an inordinate amount of time beefing up in a separation of powers since the power of the executive branch.
You have strengthened it uh based on on some um uh weakening that you felt that it had experienced in previous administration administrations.
Now, do you think the incoming administration will benefit from the strengthening you have engaged in with the uh with the executive branch?
Do you expect them to cede some of their power back to the legislative branch?
Well, um my guess is once they get here and they're faced with the same problems we deal with every day, that uh they will appreciate uh some of the things we put in place.
Um we did not exceed uh our constitutional uh th authority as some have suggested, but we uh the President believes, I believe very deeply in a strong executive, and I think that's essential in this day and age.
And I think uh the Obama administration is not likely to uh cede that authority back to the Congress.
I think they'll find uh that given a challenge they face, they'll need all the authority they can muster.
Saw a story in the uh in the paper a couple of weeks ago.
Uh it was either the Washington Post or the New York Times that that kind of made me laugh, and if I were you, it would have frustrated me.
I was I was able to laugh at it, but this story uh was fr in a newspaper that had continually been critical of the interrogation techniques at Guantanamo Bay, and had been supportive of uh of Democrats who had wanted to shut the place down and perhaps bring the prisoners home and give them access to the U.S. court system uh as though they were U.S. citizens.
This story happened to say that perhaps uh President elect Obama will not close Guantanamo and will not have to do too much, just maybe write a new law to give him authority to keep the place open, because he wants the flexibility and needs the flexibility in order to deal with the problems presented by the prisoners there.
Now, I j uh sir, I I had to laugh because the thing that you and President Bush have been tarred and feathered over for the last five or six years, they're now claiming, oh, this is good for us.
This is is that an example of things that you've put in place to help defend the country they're gonna be appreciative of once they get there and see it.
Well, I think so.
I think Guantanamo has been very well run.
I think uh if you look at it from the perspective of the uh requirements we had, once you go out and capture a bunch of terrorists, as we did in Afghanistan and um elsewhere, then you've got to have some place to put them.
If you bring them here to the U.S. and put them in our uh our local court system, then they uh are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens.
Remember, these are unlawful combatants.
These are people whose uh don't belong to any uh recognized military force, they don't obey the rules of of warfare.
Uh they're unlawful combatants.
And uh you can't if you're not gonna have a place to locate 'em like Guantanamo, then you either have to bring them here to the continental United States, and I don't know any member of Congress who's volunteering to have uh Al Qaeda terrorists deposited in his district, or you've got to turn them over to some foreign government.
And uh we found lots of times when you do that that a number of them have gone back into onto the battlefield and tried to kill Americans again.
So if they're not a very good thing.
Guantanamo's have been very, very v valuable, and I think uh they'll discover that trying to close it's a very hard proposition.
Let me let me ask you about the uh the economy and uh the future where we're headed here.
There's there's as I mentioned earlier, there's a great deal of uh fear and uncertainty because it appears it to just the average American that all of these institutions that had a lot of money, including the government, don't really have it.
And many people alive today, Mr. Vice President, have never lived through something like this, which is why the press can get away with comparing what's happening now to the Great Depression when it isn't.
But still, you know, everything is relative and it's it's uh it these are frightful times.
Uh people don't understand where we're getting the money to bail out all of these entities that don't have the money that everybody thought that they had.
What would you say to them?
Well the um financial situation in particular has been especially difficult because uh what happened on a global basis really it's not just the U.S. problem but we ended up with a a crisis in a which the the financial system came close to just freezing up.
Nobody was able to borrow any money.
Uh the wheels of commerce uh started to screech to a stop and obviously we're in a serious recession now in part as a result of uh that financial crisis I uh think the approach we've taken that is to provide liquidity to the uh banking system going working uh through treasury and uh the program authorized by the Congress as well as the work that the Federal Reserve has been doing is taking us in the right direction.
I think we're beginning to see signs that it's had a positive effect and that a lot of these problems will pass.
But obviously there's still a lot of work to be done out there, and we're still faced with the aftermath of a lot of this for the next several months.
It's a problem the Obama administration is going to have to deal with.
Well, same with the automobile bailout.
There are a lot of people who do not, simply do not understand why it is their responsibility as taxpayers to bail out the auto industry, or any other industry for that matter, which has been troubled for the longest time.
And people are beginning to ask, all this money being spent by the federal government, even if its purposes are admirable and well-intentioned, where is it coming from?
Where are we getting all this money?
How do you grow an economy with a deficit that's going to end up to be over a trillion dollars, an annual deficit perhaps next year?
they they're they're they're very much concerned and everybody's afraid and we see this uh scandal on Wall Street with the the the Ponzi scheme just makes more and more people fearful they're gonna lose what they have.
Well the Ponzi scheme on Wall Street obviously is uh is very disturbing uh unfortunately we've always had some uh bad apples on the in the scene who uh uh just involved themselves in out and out theft which I think is probably what happened here.
On the auto thing, um it comes in especially bad time because it's say it's on the heels of the financial crisis and we're on the downside of a recession and maybe the worst since World War II.
And if the automobile industry goes belly up now there's uh deep concern that that would be a you know a major shock to the system.
It might be different under different economic circumstances.
It's also important to remember that in most cases what we're talking about are loans.
That is there's the expectation that eventually the taxpayers will be paid back that uh these entities including the banks as well as the uh automobile industry will uh be responsible for repaying the uh the funds that are being advanced at this point.
But it's a in effect the full faith credit of the United States government that's going into these programs, no question about it.
Over the years when I've spoken to you you have uh uh purposely avoided any partisanship because I know that this has been a uh a policy of the administration but I have I have to say when it comes for example to the housing crisis the subprime mortgage business uh blowing up I mean Mr. Vice President this is largely a a Democrat Party scandal your administration tried numbers of different times early on in the in the early part of this decade to get new
regulators in there and because the warning signs were all over the place.
And the very people whose fingerprints are on the destruction that is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack are now being allowed to sit there and ostensibly act like they were just innocent bystanders, and they're now the white knights running in to fix it when they broke it.
No, I agree, uh Rush, that I think the uh we did see fairly early on that there was a potential crisis and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
I can remember Alan Greenspan when he was chairman of the Federal Reserve voicing concerns to us that this is a potential major problem if there was systemic failure here, so we put together a reform reform package.
But um Congress uh simply wouldn't touch it.
And uh the uh banking committees chaired by uh by the uh Democrats on both the House and the Senate side, obviously, have not been willing until we've had this uh major crisis to talk about fundamental reform.
And that's one of the reasons that uh we've been so concerned about this particular development is because indeed those uh uh financial uh security, securitized instruments that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac issue are held by uh firms uh uh all over the world, so it's uh it has global consequences if we don't get it right.
Well, we hope that uh it all works out.
Uh we have faith in as Americans in our country that uh that it will, but in some in some quarters that faith is uh somewhat shaken right now.
Mr. Vice President, I just I I I I want to thank you so much for your uh for your time today and for each and every time that you've called the program, it's been uh it's been an honor to be able to ask you these questions and talk to you about things as they happen.
Uh and I I was gonna ask you about legacy, but I think I think you answered that in terms if you even care about it.
Uh the thing that you uh you're most proud of is the uh protecting the country in the face of a never ending threat by uh Al Qaeda and and like-minded people, correct?
Yes, sir.
Yep.
All right, so thank you.
Thanks for your time.
I appreciate it, and I uh look forward to next time I see you in person, sir.
All right, Rush, it's great to talk to you again.
Vice President Dick Cheney, and we will have a brief time out, be right back after this.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
Here's Cameron in Hartford, Connecticut.
Cameron, thank you for waiting.
I uh appreciate your patience.
Well, it's grand to be on following uh the vice president.
And uh huge responsibility.
Goody two shoes did o's, and I wanted to mention and ask you if you might agree that uh this display of uh strength by our president yesterday when someone stood up and started hurling things at him, which could have been shoe bombs, I suppose.
Um will we ever see this kind of uh reaction in the future by future presidents and their their secret security details.
I mean, when you think about it, I mean think back to when he went out in Yankee Stadium, walked out to the mound solo after 91101.
Right.
And walked by himself to the mound and threw a strike.
There's a there's a an inner strength that this man has that regardless of any of his other uh foibles uh comes through in a way which I don't think we'll see again.
One of the you you raise an interesting point about this.
One of the things that I've noticed the drive-by's are ecstatic with this.
The drive by stinks is the coolest thing in the world, wish they'd have done it themselves.
They're thankful for this guy who threw the shoe, and they've gone into great detail explaining that this is one of the most profound insults in the Arab world is the sole of the shoe, filth and dirt.
You stomp on your opponent's face with it, and that's cool.
And they're wishing they could have done it.
This guy's a hero to them.
The second thing I've seen is is that uh oh, I I've seen the video of it, and it's just on the face of it, it's kind of hilarious.
But everybody's asking, why didn't the Secret Service get into that?
Why didn't they actually they did what people don't know is Bush told the secret girl get away.
He saw what happened as some local weed through a shoe.
It was Bush who kept that room under control by keeping the Secret Service from moving in there and and uprooting everybody and throwing them out.
Now, as to your question about what we see this again, here's what you have to ask yourself.
Let's imagine here that uh rather than President Bush, it's Obama somewhere in the Arab world and some reporter from some Arab news agency decides to throw their shoe at Obama.
And let's say that, you know, Obama the same thing happens.
He ducks, gets out of the way.
I will I who can know who can project the future, but I would I would be rarer uh uh pretty confident in suggesting that the media would take out after whoever did it and personally string the guy up.
There would be no praise for the guy, there would be no admiration for the guy, and the news coverage would be how dare they!
How dare and Obama, I think, would probably he'd try to play it down while at the same time suggesting this was this is just something not done to heads of state and so forth, and uh probably fire somebody on the Secret Service under uh well nobody's looking and that kind of thing.
Uh just a difference in in comportment.
We don't know.
That that's just that's just a wild guess.
By the way, thank thanks for the call out there, Cameron.
Gary Ackerman, a Congressman New York, has come out and trashed Caroline Kennedy as Hillary Clinton's Senate replacement, saying she doesn't know anything more about being a senator than J-Lo does, Jennifer Lopez, and some other high-ranking Democrat has come out and trashed Caroline Kennedy.
They do not want her to take over Hillary's seat.
Democrat on Democrat.
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