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Nov. 26, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 26, 2008, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Okay, so for three days here, we've had consecutive Barack Obama Daily Say Nothings.
They're called press conferences, but he says nothing.
He said during the campaign.
And don't you think, ladies and gentlemen, that it would be important here, maybe even almost urgent for President select Obama to be addressing Russian ships in Venezuela, Hugo Chavez Land.
It seems to me, ladies and gentlemen, that uh this would require an urgent press conference from the office of the president elect.
I mean, the Russians are down there doing war games with their Navy in Venezuelan waters.
Greetings and welcome back.
Great to have you.
Rushlin bought the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Yeah, we're doing open line Friday on Wednesday today, which means that when we go to the phones, the content of the program is all yours.
Normally here we only talk about the things I care about, because I don't want to flat out sit here and be bored talking to people about things I don't care about.
I mean, that would be that would be stupidity, and one thing I am not as stupid.
But on uh Fridays normally we wave all of those rules and restrictions, because I am a benevolent dictator here, and uh if people want to call and talk about anything that I don't care about, I'll try to fake it or do my best.
And it's a way of turning the content program uh content of the program over to you.
We're gonna do that today, since we're not going to be here Friday.
And I have also extended an invitation to some of you Obama voters who uh might want to call for uh any reason whatsoever.
You can call to gloat, you can call to be uh well, I don't want to put ideas on your head, I don't want to lead you as witnesses, but I'm just offering, and you know, look, I am the politest host in America.
Nobody gets hung up on here, nobody gets disconnected.
We don't use phone calls to abuse people or make a point.
I don't, you know, after inviting people here, we uh we treat all of our callers with uh respect uh and uh and admiration.
We try to make it as pleasant an experience as possible so that you will want to re uh repeat the process over and over again.
Now, economic numbers came out today, and the stock market reacted somewhat negatively to it, although right now the Dow Jones industrial average is up about 113 points.
Here's some of the numbers that came out today, and remember the drive-by's love reporting bad news.
Now you might say, but Rush, but Rush, you said this is gonna change after Obama was elected.
I did.
I did say it was going to change, but I forgot something crucial when I made that prediction.
And what I forgot is this Obama needs this crisis.
Ram Emanuel, his chief of staff, has been out there excitedly telling anybody who will listen that this crisis is too big to waste.
Well, if they want to use a crisis, what do they need?
They need a crisis.
And so the drive-bys are either witting or unwitting accomplices here in spreading the notion that things are going to hell fast, and uh, gosh, can't we put Obama in there now?
Can't we just somehow get rid of Bush and Cheney?
Uh have them quit, that'd make Pelosi president, she could defer to Obama.
Can't we just do that now?
This is this is the kind of stuff that's being uh uh speculated, reported.
Some of it, of course, is satire, but some of it is obviously true.
Remember, all good humor requires an element of truth for it to be funny.
So there were three things reported about the economy today that I want to try to put for you in a proper perspective.
The first bit of news that was out today that was bad, jobless claims the worst since 1983.
And of course, it was unexpectedly bad.
They were expecting bad news, but it was unexpectedly worse.
Now here's what you have to know, though, and this is in terms of the functioning U.S. economy.
Do you know that from 1983 to 2008, uh, that's 25 years, the American workforce has doubled in size.
Did you know that?
The American workforce, ladies and gentlemen, has doubled In size since 1983.
Through all of that worst economy in the last 50 years of rot gut we got from the Clintons, from all of the stuff we got the last eight years of Bush, talking about eight years of failed government policies, and people have lost their jobs and incomes are going to hell and wages have fallen, all this horrible news.
Since 1983, we have doubled the workforce.
That means, in real terms, that these unemployment numbers today are actually half as bad now as they were then.
Okay, so with the the the percentage is not a percentage, the number of claims uh there's there's still a whole hell of a lot more people working in the economy today than there were in 83 when there were similar jobless claims that were reported.
So far more people are working today.
The impact, therefore, on the economy is going to be much less.
A little reported story today is that despite all this, personal incomes rose three times more than expected.
It doesn't mean they went up three times, just three times more than expected, and durable goods.
At the same time, the good the news was was not good there.
However, the numbers are from October.
And October, you'll recall, is when the world stopped.
That's that's when the October surprise hit.
And that's when the first bailout stuff hit.
And that's when all the, oh my God, we got to get this done or we're gonna die, we gotta get this done.
The country can't survive another 48 hours, we have to do this now.
Well, everything came to a screeching halt in October.
Uh, therefore, the numbers that uh durable goods and so forth ought to be bad because everybody was told how rotten it was.
The um and all these numbers, by the way, get revised, you know, when you get to the end of the quarter, uh, including economic growth as well.
Now back to the audio sound bites.
Barack Obama interviewed by Baba Wawa.
And one hour special.
I think it was his airing um tonight.
And I did some little little uh uh highlights or excerpts from this interview on Good Morning America today.
One of the questions of Baba Wawa asks Obama, how do you feel when you read about the three heads of the auto companies taking private planes to Washington?
Well, I thought maybe they're a little tone-deaf to what's happening in America right now.
Uh and this has been a chronic problem, not just for the auto industry.
I mean, uh, when people are pulling down hundred million dollar bonuses on Wall Street and taking enormous risks with other people's money.
That indicates a sense that you don't have any perspective on what's happening to ordinary Americans.
Should bank executives, it's almost Christmas time, forego the bonuses?
I think they should.
That's an example of taking responsibility.
I think that if you are already worth tens of millions of dollars, and you are having to lay off workers, the least you can do is say, I'm willing to make some sacrifice as well, because I recognize that there are people who are a lot less well off who are going through some pretty tough times.
Okay.
The uh first off the corporate jets.
It's a it's a it's a moot issue now because these guys have announced that they're gonna carpool to Washington for the next uh next round of hearings when they present their term paper.
Now, this bank executive skipping their bonuses.
When he says, I think that if you're already worth tens of millions of dollars and you're having to lay off workers, the least you can do is say, I'm willing to make some sacrifice as well, because I recognize that there are people who are a lot less well off who are going through some pretty tough times.
Here's the sad thing about this.
This is this is as meaningless and as pointless as worrying where the moon is right now, excepting you're interested in tides.
It has it is just pointless.
You can take all of these bonuses, you could take the salaries of the big three and their bonuses and all these Wall Street firms, and you could pool that money together, and it wouldn't lower the price of gasoline a dime.
It wouldn't help.
It wouldn't, it's not, it's not going to elevate any employees' income at any of these places.
And yet people fall for this because fairness, fairness, fairness is how the liberals pursue their agenda, and it's how they because who's opposed to fairness?
And it is.
We had it, we had a guy yesterday, an auto worker call.
Well, look at the executive.
You're upset at my getting my my pension at $2200 a month.
Look at these guys getting gold in parachutes.
That's not fair.
It's not fair.
Okay, well, I guarantee you this.
Any of you who have this attitude, if your chief executive decides to give up his bonus and not even take a salary, it's not going to matter a dime to you.
It isn't gonna happen.
Thomas Sowell writes of a story today.
It's an old Russian fable.
And these two Russian guys, one of them has a goat, and the other one doesn't have a goat.
And they're walking down the street, and this one guy is very jealous of his friend that's got the goat.
And all of a sudden, a guy that doesn't have a goat runs into some lamp, is sitting there on the side of the road, and he touches a lamp and bamboo, a genie comes out of the lamp.
Genie says, Well, this is your lucky day.
You have one wish.
You can make one wish, anything you want, but just one.
And his wish was, I want my friend's goat to die.
An old Russian fable.
And it's illustrative of all this.
Somebody has to explain to me how in hell it helps me if some bank exec doesn't get a bonus.
Somebody needs to tell you, how does it help you if a bank exec or an auto exec doesn't get his bonus?
Once again, we're talking about a liberty issue.
This is not about money.
This is not about my supporting corporate people over working people.
It is the moment we allow the president of the United States to start dictating who can earn what.
It isn't going to be long before the president and his government get down to where you were working and telling you what you can and can't earn.
This business of class envy was fought by political analysts and scientists to no longer benefit the Democrat Party, but it clearly does.
It was one of the primary weapons that Obama used in the campaign.
And it's all based on this muddled notion of fairness.
But the thing that's really frustrating about it is it basically, let's look at the area of tax cuts and tax increases.
You have people in the middle class, the upper middle class who hear Obama say that he's going to soak the rich.
And he's going to raise their taxes because they've got more than they need, it just isn't fair.
And of course, the people in the middle class, just like they want corporation CEOs to get waxed, they want richer people than they are to get waxed.
And so when it happens, they're supposed to feel happy and they're supposed to thank Obama for doing it, but at the end of the day, there's not a penny more in their pockets or in their bank accounts than before the whacking started.
And all the whacking accomplishes is the government punishing achievers while not benefiting the little guy who claims that he's going to benefit from all this.
And it allows the notion, it's this same old thinking that uh, you know, if if if there's a tax increase that comes along, but yours don't get increased, okay.
I don't care.
It's not my taxes, fine.
You're next.
When we as a voting population do not oppose some of these fundamental things that have to do with liberty and freedom, the pursuit of happiness, economic opportunity, when a half of the population doesn't understand how all this works and simply thrives and thinks they're gonna be happy when somebody else they don't even know suffers,
then the only beneficiaries of this are people like Obama and Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and other big government liberals who are getting what they want out of all this, and that is not even more money.
You start raising taxes on people, and the money to the treasury shrinks because a lot of little guys are gonna get laid off and fired.
No, what they like about it is the cementing of power and specifically securing a Little bit more loss of individual liberty and freedom because these people are about empowering themselves, and once they get it, holding on to it.
So you've got to start asking your yourself a question.
Here's Obama.
I think they should skip Bomb.
How come somebody has tens of millions of dollars?
Not every CEO has tens of millions of dollars.
Small businesses have CEOs.
Not every CEO has tens of millions of dollars.
And it's not Obama's business whether they have enough or not.
Not the government's business, it's nobody's business.
It's not your business whether somebody has enough or not.
Not your right.
You don't get to determine what's enough for anybody but your kids and your family.
That's it.
Aside from that, what anybody else earns and what they have is none of anybody else's business, and most especially the government's.
But now the door has been opened.
It is the government's business.
Obama thinks these people have too much.
They should not only pay more taxes, they should not get bonuses.
They ought to automatically forego them.
Sign of fairness.
Let me ask you this, folks.
CEO due for a bonus, doesn't get it.
On the basis that he's got to understand people are hurting out there.
So what do we want to do?
Spread the misery?
He's not going to get a bonus, so he's going to hurt too.
Is that the solution to this problem?
Take away bonuses so other people suffer, so everybody's suffering?
Hello.
Welcome to the objective of Barack Obama and the Democrat Party.
Spreading misery equally.
They love the crisis.
They love the suffering.
They want to maximize it to help themselves.
Another aspect of this.
Obama says the CEO's got to understand people are certain are suffering out there, it's hurting out there.
They got to go up there and give up their bonus.
Again, CEO gives up the bonus.
How does it help anybody else who's suffering?
It might well be, in fact, that the CEO will be less inclined to make charitable donations.
Which means people then would suffer.
But with all these years of Democrat class envy from FDR on and of course hating the boss and hating corporations is a fundamental aspect of labor union leadership, you know, fostering that view on people.
The Democrats are smart.
They're taking advantage of it and walking themselves all the way into the power bank and nobody's stopping them.
Hi, how are you?
Rush Limbaugh, open line Friday on Wednesday, phone calls coming up soon, but stick with me on this for a second, folks.
Obama says that these CEOs are out of touch.
They have tens of millions of dollars, and because they take bonuses, they really have no idea what it's like out there.
I would submit to you that CEOs are more in touch with what's going on in America.
After all, they run companies that sell products or services to a hopefully majority and mass millions of numbers of Americans.
If you want to know who's really out of touch, try this.
How about Congressmen and Senators pulling down around 167,000 a year and spending trillions of dollars, which ends up destroying certain economic activity.
It seems to me they're the ones that don't get it.
It seems to me if anybody is living in a world that is totally devoid of reality, is people earning 167,000 a year and in charge of trillions of dollars to spend.
And we've got a track record of how poorly they do it.
Year after year after year.
It's like the House bank scandal.
Remember that back in 1988, these guys could go to the House bank and write checks for cash on money they didn't have.
And the bank covered it.
And this was going on and on for years, so their salary was irrelevant.
If you want to talk about people that are out of touch with what life is like in this country, it's not just members of the House and Senate, it's also the drive by media.
Now I'm going to tell you what a real leader would be doing in this situation.
A real leader would use what's happening in the U.S. economy as an opportunity to explain how free markets work.
A real leader would be telling the American people the truth about how we're going to get out of this, and that it's up to them.
And that we're going to get out of your way.
We're going to lower your taxes, we're going to lower corporate taxes, and we're going to get this economy booming, and we're going to start now.
And we're not going to wait for me to come up with legislation to spend a bunch of money on wake make work projects.
Capitalism, free markets, individual liberty.
These are concepts that set people free.
Great leaders and American people talked about setting people free.
George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan.
We hear none of this from the Obama team.
Quite the contrary.
Okay, it's open line Friday on Wednesday, and now we head to the phones, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
New York City.
Steve, I appreciate your patience.
Great to have you with us today.
Hey Ross, nice to speak to you.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Um I just have a quick comment on the two point five million jobs that are supposedly going to be created.
Uh uh uh wait, wait, wait, no, that's been revised.
Two and a half million jobs saved and created.
Well, assuming that let's assume that they're gonna, you know, be created and not saved.
I want to know who among the two point five million unemployed are gonna actually take these jobs.
Are they gonna be financial uh out of work people from the financial sector, uh secretaries?
Uh who's gonna take these jobs?
And are they gonna suddenly be trained in the areas of concrete and rebar and spikes and all these things that have to do with building roads?
You're you're you're you you know you're you're not supposed to ask these kinds of questions.
You're supposed to sit out there and go, yeah, all right.
We're gonna fix the roads and bridges and create two and a half million jobs, and then you're supposed to go buy a turkey and have Thanksgiving, and I'm supposed to ask these questions.
You're not supposed to have this kind of curiosity about uh Obama's plans.
Well, I understand that, and I understand I can't say much about it, but that's why I called you.
Well, see, I uh it it it is it's an excellent question, but the assumption is uh that people make is that the people that already do this kind of work are unemployed already because we haven't been doing the work.
See, we haven't been doing the road repairs, we haven't been doing the bridge maintenance, and so if we haven't been doing it, there are people who are already qualified to do this, who because of the last eight years of Bush failed policies, uh have no jobs, and so they're just they're just waiting out there clamoring.
They already have experience.
This is the way you're supposed to think of this.
Your question's obviously quite good.
Who's gonna be hired to fix up all these potholes?
And what union are they gonna have to join in order to get this done?
And I suppose we're gonna have to make new equipment and uh, you know.
I'll tell you who it's gonna end up being.
If you really want to know the answer, if you want to know who is going to get hired for these jobs, I need to take you back to the campaign to Zanesville, Ohio, where Michelle Obama was addressing a bunch of women in an audience, where she specifically said, your town is dying.
You need to stay.
Do not join a law firm, don't even waste time going to college, don't go to a hedge fund.
You need to stay and help people.
Uh the the people that Michelle Obama told to not improve themselves to stay there and stay in Zanesville and make sure Zanesville doesn't change, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Those are the kind of people that Obama will go out and try to find and hire.
Well, I suppose so, but uh, because they're not gonna go to college and they're not gonna go to Wall Street and not gonna go to service jobs, and there's all there's a whole pool of people out there just sitting around, apparently.
Right.
Question is actually brilliant.
Where are we gonna get people to know how to do bridge work?
Where are we gonna get people to know how to do highway work?
Where are we gonna get these people?
Who are they now?
Are they the unemployed people on Wall Street?
Are they are they secretaries?
How are we gonna train these people?
Um Lisa in Stafford, Virginia.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
Good to talk to you.
Thank you.
Same here.
Hey, well, I was in the mall in Fredericksburg, Virginia the other day and completely humiliated my twenty-year-old when I thanked Thomas Jefferson for fighting the African pirates.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
I'm trying to follow you.
You were in the mall in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
Who completely humiliated your your twenty-year-old?
I did.
Your twenty year old you had a twenty-year-old with you.
Yes.
You humiliated your twenty-year-old.
Yes.
Oh, when you thank Thomas Jefferson for fighting uh the African pirate the Barbary Coast Pirates.
Exactly.
Yes, I think it's a little known fact that the United States has been paying um the pirates off the coast of Africa since the beginning of our history.
And um so I was making that known leather rather loudly in the mall.
Um, you know, because I you know, people think this is all new, but the fact is the United States has been paying um off these pirates.
I don't know if they currently are, but the history books show that the you know, we paid 'em off, and then when Jefferson was president, he said I've had enough of this, and he sent the United States Navy and eight Marines over to Tripoli to get to Philadelphia that had been captured.
Exactly right.
And this was the United States' first encounter with militant Islamists.
Yes, it was so that's another little number of the barbaric Barbary Coast Pirates when these these clowns these clowns are too.
Uh but yeah, we th that we were we had our appeasers in the founding days, and then we paid them off to leave us alone.
Protection money.
And you're right, Thomas Jefferson got fed up with it after a while, and that was our first armed conflict with these people.
Uh but but but your your uh your son had no knowledge of this.
Oh, it was my daughter.
No, she knew she was just humiliated because I was being rather loud and we were right there in the mall.
But I don't really care.
Well, that's you know, that I don't think it's so much what you were saying, it's that you're the parent.
Well, probably.
I wouldn't take it par I wouldn't take it personally.
I I I just think you know, any kid uh age thirty and below is gonna be embarrassed by their parents, uh especially out in public.
I mean, how often is your daughter ask you to go to the movies with her?
Actually, we go quite frequently.
I'm really taking back.
If she's not embarrassed to be seen in the movies with you, then it may be that she's reacting specifically to what you said.
We're a strange family.
You're not my husband's a United States Marine and he's in Afghanistan right now, and we have um pretty much stuck together and the k the girls have been nice to spend their time with me and not their buddies, and I'm very lucky.
Well, God bless you and the uh and the family.
And you do it, you're doing the Lord's work out there.
You you you probably shocked your daughter into uh thinking of something she didn't want to think about.
And that's always good.
Yeah.
Get him out of the cocoon.
Uh Lisa, thanks much.
I appreciate the call.
This is Mike in Indianapolis.
Welcome, sir to the EIB network.
Hello.
Uh good afternoon, Mr. Lumbaugh uh this is uh Mike from uh Heartland.
Uh my uh feline friend here, uh Melchior passes on Thanksgiving wishes to your feline friend Punkin.
Thank you, sir.
And uh my comment that has to do with uh Paul Volker, who uh during the uh standing as an uh uh sort of uh an awesome presence behind uh O'Brock the entire campaign, I was concerned and and and told people that uh i here's a Republican who turned coat uh but had uh uh actually turned coat even before that.
He was the one who headed up the investigation of uh food for oil scandal in the United Nations and uh ended up giving uh Kofi Anon and his son uh uh a bye on the whole deal.
Um this was because at the same time that this uh scandal was going on, of course the the bri uh the Germans and uh the French were um uh using the o embargo as a front to the You know I had I had forgotten that part of Volker's resume.
You're right, he did do the investigation, the oil for food program of the UN and basically gave uh the two head archives, Kofi Anon and his son.
What was his son's name, Kofu?
What was his son's name?
Kofi Anon and um Kofi threw through his kid under the bus a couple of times or threw him overboard, uh, but they both got wrist slaps by by Paul Volker.
Right.
Uh and uh uh Kofi's of course uh messing around down there in Zimbabwe now with uh Jimmy Carter been re denied his mission uh to go in there and stir up trouble when uh actually uh what they could do is um uh get uh uh something done w with uh the arms coming out of South Africa.
the uh Obama said today this is a fresh face uh that Obama hadn't been around Washington since uh the eighties.
Fresh face.
You're speaking euphemistically, right?
Yes, no, he's trying to make people think Volker's been running around chewing his cud for the last twenty six years and has now been called out of retirement because challenges are so important and so great that this is the only guy that can handle it, along with Alston uh Goolsby.
Yeah.
Well, you watch and see what other fresh faces um is uh named to look at Obama's admitting to us he's got no experience.
He's admitting to us he doesn't have any idea here.
He's admitting to us that he's gonna be a figurehead.
He's it's it's his vision.
Now I I uh I I'm not trying to diminish his power influence here because I think he is a committed leftist, and I think he's gonna do everything he can to advance that kind of an agenda.
But when it comes specifically to executive experience, Obama's telling us he hasn't got any.
Which we all pointed out during the campaign.
All right, look, I appreciate that out there um uh for the for the phone call.
It's uh Mike.
We got to take a quick time out here, ladies and gentlemen.
Be patient, we'll come back and resume with all the rest of the program right after this.
I saw a story that it was a follow-up to Sarah Palin.
Remember they're doing everything they can to destroy Sarah Palin out there, and there was a um story about you know, we we had the video too, which she was standing in front, she pardoning the state turkey in Alaska while standing in front of a guy who was slaughtering turkeys for Thanksgiving.
It was a turkey farm.
The New York Times ran a story on this and referred to what was going on behind Sarah Palin as Turkey executions.
The Turkeys were being executed.
Now once again, what is a turkey for?
A turkey can't even fly.
It's one of the dumbest birds out there, but that's irrelevant.
This is a turkey farm.
The turkeys are bred for one reason, ladies and gentlemen.
That's to be consumed.
And yet Sarah Palin standing in front of an execution.
It's like a turkey's being sent in.
And then Bush did his pardon of the turkey today, too.
But with Sarah Palin involved, they had to describe the turkeys as being executed.
The correct term is slaughtered.
Tim in Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
Hi.
Yes, Rush.
Hello, sir.
Hello, Rush.
Yeah, hi.
Testing one, two, three.
Tim, are you there?
Yes, I'm here.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I hear you fine.
It's an honor, sir.
Thank you very much, sir.
Um I just want to say I'm I'm stationed in Fort Bragg, but I'm from the reddest state, Oklahoma.
The reddest, that's right, 65% voted for McCain.
Yes, which actually Oklahoma and Choctaw means red, the home of the red.
Yeah, but they got a weird thing going on there now.
This there they've got some guy that wants to um what's the deal?
He wants, he wants I forget what it is.
He won i if you don't do what he says, they're gonna pull away your Oklahoma or Oklahoma State season tickets.
What?
Yes, I can't I had this two days ago, and I can't remember what this this guy wants to do.
It's it it's it's something about dictating some new behavior or it it's totally unlike anybody governing in Oklahoma.
Uh yeah, he's thinking he's a uh uh uh I think he's a Democrat.
Uh but no let me do that.
No, it wasn't the gu it wasn't the governor, it was some some lowly state official.
I'm just I'm having a mental block.
Somebody's gonna feed me the information here from the website in mere moments.
I'm confident of this.
In the meantime, what was it that you called about?
Okay.
Um my question, we're actually uh uh before my question, I went to a McCain rally here in North Carolina and McCain rally, or in a Palin rally.
Um two McCain rallies and one palin rally, and there were so many more people to see Palin than there was McCain.
And she has energized in my mind, the base, the conservative base, like, hey, you know, this is awesome.
And you know, a lot of people like me, I'm 31 years old, a conservative.
Um we're thinking, you know, you know, Obama is in, but hey, we had to go through Carter to get Reagan.
So I'm thinking we have to go through Obama to get Palin.
But my question to you is why are all these Republicans out there, why don't they like her?
Uh-huh.
Aha.
Okay, I want you to listen to very carefully to this.
It's a it's a long answer that I'm going to try to make very brief.
In the first place, when you say, why don't Republicans like her?
Because there's a whole bunch of different kind of Republicans now.
Like there's you and me.
We're conservative Republicans.
But we also have to deal with liberal and moderate or Rockefeller Republicans in our party.
So that the party uh has as lost its primary identity.
Strong national defense, tax cuts, smaller government.
It's lost its identity.
It doesn't believe smaller government's possible.
The Republican Party has too many people who want the government to grow, just spend the money on different groups of people in different ways in order to get votes.
It's called liberalism light.
They're calling it redefined conservatism.
Sarah Palin makes them nervous because of precisely what you cited.
She inspired and revved up a Republican Party.
But there are people in the Republican Party who don't want it to stand for the things that she stands for.
It's her I think her effectiveness that is making her a target.
The drive-by media and the Democrat Party are also not fond of her, and they're doing everything they can to make her appear to be the face of the Republican Party because they think most of the country despises her too, uh, based on exit polls.
You know, Barbara Walters, in the in the interview I did with her last week.
You like Peyton Palin?
She said, I said, sure, I absolutely do.
I said, I think she was great.
I said, why not why don't you like her?
She was uninformed, Barbara Walter said.
And I said, the light went off in my head because there is the template.
The one interview she did with Katie Courick, and they've all decided she's an idiot.
And she's uninformed.
They do not know that there were people in the McCain campaign trying to sabotage her.
And that she was under tight controls and she finally wanted to bust out and be who she is.
We saw those of us that pay attention saw enough of who she is to realize that she is uh incredibly valuable to the uh conservative uh uh cause in the Republican Party going forward.
But to those that don't like her it's simply because of that, uh Tim, she's effective.
And and she threatens the old boy.
Uh it's not a gender thing.
She she threatens the old boy network.
But I'm telling you, this is a fundamental thing to understand.
We can talk about Obama all we want here, and we can we can try to uh educate people as to what's coming down the pike.
But one of the larger battles we have before we even talk about trying to defeat Obama again, is defining who we are, you know, as a political party.
Because there is a huge battle going on.
There are so many factions in the Republican Party now, and many of them are gutless.
Many of them, when they get to Washington after being elected, go wobbly.
They turn moderate because they think that's what you have to be to get along.
We just ran a presidential campaign based on being moderate and reaching out to all these liberal Democrat voters, thinking that's the only way we can win, ignoring the blueprint for landslide victory.
We got people who think we need to rerun this campaign over and over again.
We got to get rid of our conservative ideology, Arnold Schwarzenegger, we've got to drop conservatism from the Republican Party.
We got our conservative intelligentsia wise men, these people in the media who uh who also think that the worst thing that could happen to Republican parties than to listen to me.
So we have, Tim, I'm telling you, we have a huge battle to define, and the Republican Party is it because that's the only party that's going to oppose Democrats, and and there's going to be a big battle for control of it.
And it's uh in many ways, it's subtly already started, and it's going to intensify once next year gets going and Obama's actually uh inaugurated.
Brief time out coming right back.
It was the state insurance commissioner in Oklahoma, Kim Holland, who said we're gonna take away your season football tickets.
Football season tickets if you don't buy health insurance.
They wanted to make buying health insurance mandatory.
It was not just the season tickets to football games that universities are gonna take away.
There were some other things.
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