I was uh having a private communication, my official Sony concierge.
About a uh delivery that's stuck on a broken airplane.
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By the way, folks, I I read the most hilarious thing last night.
I didn't print it out and bring it in here because you just keep and now hearing it's gonna be a negotiated item once we once we get unionized with card check in here.
Uh the fact the staff standing up uh when I approach the microphone.
Well, you go ahead and think that way.
Uh you think card checks gonna get in here.
We don't have enough people here to qualify.
You're you you want to unionize the the battle's on.
As I was saying, uh, ladies and gentlemen, last night I was reading, I was doing show prep and uh I came across the funniest thing.
I didn't print it out because it was so obviously a parody, but it reads.
I wish I had printed it out, because it reads like a genuine news story.
Let me ask you a question.
Who is the one obvious person not yet named to the to the Obama cabinet from the Clinton administration?
Who is the one person that Obama has not yet named who was prominent in the Clinton years?
Exactly right, Monica Lewinsky.
They're bringing back everywhere, even brought back Alice Rivlin to do consultancy.
I'm sure that Madeline Albright will be, you know, prancing around over at the State Department doing some things undercover and behind the scenes, not the theoretically, but figuratively uh under the cover.
But Lewinsky.
And this this this uh little little humor, this sat satirical story, had Monica Lewinsky being appointed to a position at the State Department for a host of valid reasons.
She has exhibited amazing oral skills, which are crucial to the acts of diplomacy.
Uh she uh is very, very economic, saves everything, including her wardrobe, uh, which would go a long way to help Obama's plan to cut budgets and so forth.
But there were other things in it.
It was just it was it was hilarious.
I still have it on my home computer.
I'll print it out and I'll bring it in, uh bring it in tomorrow.
All right.
Barry Ritzholtz, uh uh a financial blogger, has run the numbers on the bailout.
And he cites a guy named Jim Bianco of Bianca Research, who crunched inflation adjusted numbers here and compared some previous federal government expenditures to the current total of the bailout.
Now, depending on where you look, the total bailout money to date is either six trillion or seven point four trillion.
These guys, they just ran it up to 4.6 trillion.
And it's more than that now.
It's at least two trillion more than that.
Now the current the current national debt is like seven trillion.
I think something maybe it's higher than that.
But regardless, that's irrelevant here.
This current bailout, calculated only up to 4.6 trillion dollars, has cost more than all of the following government expenditures combined.
Are you ready?
The Marshall Plan, the Louisiana Purchase, the race To the moon, the SNL crisis, the Korean War, the New Deal, the invasion of Iraq, the Vietnam War, and NASA.
All of those combined in inflation adjusted dollars equal 3.92 trillion dollars in today's dollars.
This bailout is more than all of those combined.
Now, would you like to hear the inflation adjusted dollar amounts for each of these line items?
The Marshall Plan back when we did it cost 12.7 billion.
If we did it today, and it rebuilt Europe after World War II for those of you who voted for Obama, if we did the Marshall Plan today, it would cost 115.3 billion dollars.
We rebuilt Europe for 115.3 billion dollars in today's dollars, and we have just spent, according to these guys, 4.6 trillion on bailouts of the U.S. financial industry.
The Louisiana purchase in today's dollars would cost 217 billion.
Now, for those of you who voted for Obama, the Louisiana purchase was Thomas Jefferson's.
It's how we got New Orleans and much of the territory all the way to the left coast, and it gave us the Lewis and Clark expedition, which Jefferson ordered to go out find out what the hell we just bought.
The race to the moon in today's dollars would have cost 237 billion dollars.
That's more than the Marshall Plan and the Louisiana purchase in today's dollars.
The SNL crisis, we bailed out the SNLs and fixed that today's dollars, 256 billion.
Back then it was 153.
The Korean War, $54 billion back in the 50s.
Today's cost would be 454 billion.
The New Deal.
Today's dollars, it's estimated to be 500 billion.
If we did the New Deal today, that's half a trillion.
We have spent 4.6 trillion.
The New Deal was half a trillion in today's dollars.
We have spent 4.6 trillion and probably more than that.
At least six or seven.
The invasion of Iraq, $597 billion.
In today's dollars.
The Vietnam War.
Back in the era of the Vietnam War, it cost $111 billion.
To do it today would cost us $698 billion.
And NASA, this is not the race to the whole NASA budget.
Over the years, $416.7 billion.
In today's dollars, it's $851.2 billion.
Maybe this is an annual cost here for NASA.
Yeah, it's an annual $416.6 billion.
So all of these add up to $3.92 trillion.
Marshall Plan, New Deal, Louisiana Persis, Race to the Moon, Siddharth Crisis, a la la da.
And we have spent the $4.6 trillion.
The only comes close as World War II.
And even that cost less than what we have spent.
But at least in World War II, we were producing something, and everybody was working, and there was a tangible result, and that is we were able to stop David.
We were able to stop Hitler.
I mean, that was we did a great thing in World War II.
And I and I'm again, I have to emphasize this is using a figure of 4.6 trillion as the bailout today, which is far, far uh more than that.
Ladies and gentlemen, in August of 2007, I was fortunate enough to be invited to the White House to have dinner with President and Mrs. Bush up in the residence.
And for two hours prior to dinner, I was uh taken into the treaty room in the residences down the hall from the Lincoln bedroom with uh President Bush and Ed Gillespie, who had replaced Carl Rove.
And the president took me around the world and told me what was going on and where and what was being done about it, what the challenges were and so forth.
No secrets were divulged.
When he got to China, he said most interesting conversation I've ever had with Hu Xin Tao, Chinese Premier.
I said, Who?
What's your biggest challenge every day when you get up?
What is your biggest challenge?
And the president told me that Hu Xin Tao's answer was I have to create twenty-five million new jobs a year, and I gotta keep them in the countryside.
Because if those people ram my cities, I lose control over them.
I can't handle any more population in the cities.
And I remember, after having that meeting, I came back and shared some of what the president had told with you.
So you may remember that story.
Two stories.
One is from the Times of India, and it's from Beijing.
Chinese leaders have finally admitted the country is facing a grim situation on the employment front owing to the global economic crisis.
An official survey has shown that demand for labor has fallen five and a half percent in the third quarter of this year across eighty-four different cities.
Yin Wymin, the head of the Ministry of Human Resources, said that labor discontent was a top concern of the Chikom government as the employment situation is turned grim.
The government is clearly worried that among jobless workers, unrest would result in protest demonstrations and unruly scenes, in which case they'll just pull out the tanks, but they you know they don't want people to see that.
The past weeks have seen strikes by taxi drivers in four cities and a workers' riot at the party headquarters in Gansu province.
China has nearly a hundred and fifty million migrant workers who have left their rural homes in central and west China to work in the factories of South China.
The extent of unemployment caused in factories cutting back production following loss of export orders is still not known, but the numbers might prove to be big enough to cause social tension.
You have to love those words social tension.
They ever got millions of people with jobs, no job, nothing.
That's a powder keg, and they're leaving the countryside.
And here's a companion story from StrategyPage.com.
Date lined a couple days ago.
Civil unrest in China is a growing problem that the government's trying to hide.
Mobs attacking the cops or government buildings is an increasingly common event.
The news gets out via the internet, not the government controlled media.
The causes corruption in the police and among local government officials, these are all communists.
Most Chinese see membership in the Communist Party as a license to steal.
Because only party members can be government officials, which includes the cops and military commanders.
The government admits that these incidents occur but refuses to release details.
Information gets out via the internet, and that indicates an increasing boldness, apparently born of desperation on the part of the protesters.
This indicates that many officials at the local level are not listening to the growing government pronouncements about fighting corruption.
And it goes on to the whole point of this story is that the ChICOM government is facing this revolt because there is a rural rebellion.
That Hu Xin Tao is failing in his uh in his stated necessity to create 25 million new jobs out in the countryside.
And one of the reasons is the U.S. collabs.
I mean, we're not importing as much because there's disposable incomes down and spending all this money on nothing.
All this money is not Can you imagine if the U.S. consumer was spending some of this money and oh well, that's a pipe dream.
Uh but nevertheless, I just found these two stories interesting because it was just what, fourteen months ago, that uh President Bush told me that this is the biggest challenge that the Hu Xin Tao, the uh Chicom leader has, and here it's coming to pass.
The president said he told Hu Xin Tao, who you've already lost control, buddy.
You've already lost control.
I mean, you're it's you you're you got your police state and so forth, but you've also got people clamoring for cars and nicer homes, cheaper gasoline and so forth and so on.
Capitalism is has made its way in.
Not haven't lost total control, but this stuff, when the people in the rural provinces start migrating to the cities, they got big problems and it's starting to manifest itself.
We'll be back.
Thanks, Mr. Engineer, for playing this song reminding me where my Sony order is stuck.
Here's a good song, Johnny Rivers in Memphis 1965 or 1966.
El Rushbow, half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
Pittsburgh and Sean.
Glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the big program.
Thank you, Rush.
Hey, uh I was just telling your call screener.
Uh, you know, everybody keeps talking about, you know, should we bail out the consumer or bail out the big three when it comes to these cars?
I mean, why not do both?
I said, why can't you set up like a rebate system on a scale?
Like if you have good credit, you get a $2,000 remain that goes directly to the you know the big one of the big three, whichever one you buy the car from.
If you have less credit, give them up to like a five thousand dollar credit.
That way you're helping the consumer, you're encouraging them to buy a car, and you're helping, you know, the big three at the same time.
You know, you you have a great idea, but it's it's um you you're not going far enough.
If you have a great idea, you need to go all the way.
It's just it's just well, no, no, then stick with me on this.
It's just like this whole bailout plan.
Uh, you know, the the um the the Obama he thinks it would be very uh worthwhile to have two and a half million new jobs for the government or saved for the government, people doing roads and bridges and so forth.
And he thinks this is going to be you know very instrumental in reviving the U.S. economy.
Well, if this is a good idea, why stop at two and a half million new jobs?
Why not just hire every American to work for the government?
If working for the government is what brings about economic prosperity, then Obama should just hire every one of us.
And that's true solution.
Why are we switching more toward a you know service economy?
Exactly.
Now, your idea, why go through all this rig and roll of credits and rebates and so forth?
Why not just have the government buy everybody a brand new car?
They can keep the cars they have or trade one in that they don't want, because many people are multiple car families.
If it's if just have the government buy everybody a car, and look at what that would do.
You make sure that the cars are American made.
I don't know if I agree with you on that far, but I mean, if they're gonna give them the big three the money, why not encourage people?
I'm saying do it that way to encourage the people to actually buy the cars instead of just giving them the money and doing what they're doing with it now, and then six months from now asking for more.
Well, they're gonna they're gonna in order to get people to buy the cars, they're gonna have to have cars people want to buy.
And that's gonna be a problem because the bailout money is going to have requirements attached to it that they gotta go green, they gotta go alternative energy, they gotta go, they gotta go small, they get they gotta build cars that a lot of people don't really want.
So basically they're gonna force them to dig the hole deeper.
I think there's an effort here to to green as much of American industry as possible on the basis that we need to stop global warming and so forth and so on.
This is a dream for these people, Sean.
This is a dream for liberals who have been dying to run as much of American business as possible, with all these businesses, you know, traipsing up to Washington with their hands out.
You can attach all kind of conditions you want once you hand out the money.
This is why I don't accept freebies.
I do not, I refuse.
I mean, somebody, you know, give me a piece of gum, don't misunderstand.
But I don't I don't I don't take I don't because I don't want to be obligated.
I don't want the strings that come into somebody I that's why I would never run for office.
I mean, the pay cut's a primary reason.
But the next reason I wouldn't do it is because you gotta go out there and fundraise.
And the moment you hold your hand out, and you ask people for money, there is an expectation attached to it.
Now, in an ideal world, the expectation is that the person giving you the money will be satisfied if you just stay true to your ideas and your your ideals and principles and do everything you can to implement them.
But a lot of people, uh as we all know, when they donate particularly large sums, have um tangible expectations that go beyond ideas and ideals.
And that I couldn't do.
I'm just uh for I have I have tried to set my life up my whole life so that I didn't need to pend on anybody, so that I didn't have to ask anybody for it, because I've been through the I didn't want to go through it again, and I don't want to be obligated to anybody.
And there are ways of doing that.
And so that's why if they this bailout money is going to come with so many stipulations, you don't even want to think of it.
Doing show prep last night, and I came across so many stories that made me think that there's spoofs.
I'm not reading this.
This cannot be a real news story.
And with so many internet sites out there now doing spoofs, I said, I wonder if I'm getting scammed here.
And this one turned out to be real.
It's from the South Florida Sun Sentinel.
The Florida Governor Charlie Christ said yesterday that he is considering a holiday season moratorium on home foreclosures here in Florida, a move similar to a 90-day foreclosure ban sought by Governor Schwarzenegger in California earlier this month.
Chris told reporters at the Capitol in Tallahassee, I think it'd be a good idea to be able to do.
I want to work with the banking industry, and I want to do it in a way that is not harmful to them.
And we want them to continue to succeed, to continue to loan money, but we want to stop foreclosures.
Now, can you understand why I thought that was a spoof.
We want the banks to continue to succeed, and we want to connect to loan money, but we don't want to have foreclosures.
Excuse me, I I mean this is this Governor Christ is a Republican.
We want the banks to succeed.
We want the banks to continue to loan money, but we want to stop foreclosures.
Especially during the holidays.
Well uh Kay, I don't know how you do this.
I really don't know how you have the banking industry succeed, have the have them to continue to loan money, but then not foreclose and the people that don't pay them back.
I don't know how you do that.
Uh in California, Governor Schwarzenegger has asked lawmakers to enact a 90-day stay on the home foreclosures, similar to what President elect Barack Obama proposed at the federal level.
Federal level these guys love John McCain, too.
Chris and Governor Schwartz.
I'm sorry, folks, I'm speechless.
I genuinely am speechless.
I mean, these are the Republicans talking about this and this.
You know, I'm reading this and I'm it's I fight the urge to burst out laughing.
This it gotta be a spoof.
This is the this is something a liberal would say.
Well, we love the banks.
We want the banks to keep lending money.
And we want them to make money.
We don't want them to foreclose on anybody.
Especially during the holidays.
Oh, okay.
Good.
Sounds like a plan.
Write it into law and sign it.
Here's uh Tim in Chelsea, Alabama.
Hi, Tim.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Retired Army Ditto's rush.
Thanks for being on AFN all those years.
Thank you, sir, very much.
Uh the big three auto uh makers have an opportunity if they grow a spine to stump break government out of their business the same way to big tobacco missed it ten years ago.
Ten years ago, big tobacco could have broken the government from uh bothering them by doing two things.
Just saying we're not gonna sell any cigarettes in the United States for amount of time, and we're not going to buy the tobacco from the farmers to protect the taxes.
Government would have defecated themselves uh granting them immunity from those.
This is an interesting idea, I've got to tell you, because it goes to the point we've had all these people talk about a cigarettes kill, tobaccos kill, uh can't advertise it, can't do this, gotta get Joe Campbell out of there.
It's so bad, ban the product then.
It's causing health care costs to scar.
Ban the product if it's so bad.
But they won't ban the product because they won't do it out the tax revenue.
So your point is that Big tobacco could have just said, fine, we're punting America.
Yes, sir.
And and big three automakers can do something similar to get Congress out of their business by doing two things.
They could declare that uh the bankruptcy now before they take it down with government money to do the reorganization, and they could reincorporate as part of the reorganization in the Bahamas, therefore they get rid of all the uh standards that apply to domestic automakers.
Yeah, well.
You know that has about as much chance of happening as big tobacco.
Well, they got they've got no spine.
Uh now, see here's here's the thing, though.
Members of Congress already do this.
There's another story today.
There was a story yesterday in the New York Post about Charlie Wrangle.
Do you know what he's done now?
Now stick with me on this, Tim.
All right, sir.
Charlie Wrangell has declared that his home in Washington, D.C. is his primary residence.
He declared it as a homestead, so he doesn't have to pay taxes there.
Well, that means he's no longer representing his uh district.
Well, right, but he also has primary residence in New York.
It may not be primary, but he he declared his place that he lives in Washington to be homesteaded.
Members of Congress do not pay local DC taxes because their official residence is somewhere else.
He's got a he somehow got a homestead exemption in the district club.
This guy's got more apartments on a salary of a hundred and sixty grand, and he's got this vacation rental place down in the Dominican Republic where they catch him sleeping in the back of a hammock.
Uh, which is a very interesting picture.
Well and Charlie Wrangle could he Charlie Wrangle could probably serve as a consultant to advise Big Three Auto on how to restructure where did you say the Bahamas?
Uh Bahamas, uh Jamaica, wherever the tax breaks are the best.
Cayman.
Let's not forget the Cayman Islands offshore.
You go over to Bermuda.
Go over there.
Uh now they get rid of all the uh all the requirements, and if they need to, they don't sell you uh autos in the U.S., they just ship overseas to where their business is good.
Yeah, well, it's interesting theory, but you know it'll never happen.
Oh, yes, sir.
Well, no, it's not even if they had the spine.
The the suppliers, the all of the uh that's part of your your trick, right?
This is all right, you people you you want to tell me how to run the business, I'm gonna leave the country.
We're just gonna shut down, we're gonna make cars in America.
And that would keep con Congress would back off because they'd only kill the cow.
I don't think I mean that's the theory.
I think I think it would make them so damn mad.
I I th I think they'd make sure that nobody ever treated them like that again.
They'd put them in jail, they'd do something, hold them in contempt of Congress, they'd do something.
Well, you know, you g standing up for freedom is a fight.
You gotta fight the fight.
I know, but that that's that that's that's not what these guys in the auto business right now are looking at surviving.
And I just um, you know, those are those are the kind of things that they're really fun to talk about, and you would love to see.
I would have loved to seen big tobacco stick into these people.
I just would have loved.
Oh, I cannot tell you because that your product kills, then ban it.
You gracious public servants, if it kills, ban the damn stuff.
But you can't because you can't deal without the tax revenue.
You can't survive without people buying the product and killing themselves, as you say.
Hell, cigarette smokers deserve medals of honor or some congressional medal of water, because they're the ones paying for health care costs right.
Well, I don't know anybody's paying for anything anymore except the bailout.
This is Peter in San Mateo, California.
Hi, Peter, you're on the EIB network.
Nice to have you with us.
Uh Rush, thank you for taking my call uh very quickly here.
Um the nation uh in World War II was uh actively persuaded uh to buy war bonds.
Uh one of my professors from Stanford, uh Professor Elmer Fagan, uh cautioned Mor FDR and Morgothhal that after World War II we had face a major inflationary period because of the debt.
Well, Morgenthal and uh Roosevelt argued that it doesn't make any difference how large the debt is, we owe it to ourselves.
And uh Fagan argued it is crucial who owns the debt, the savings bonds, uh, Namely, the holders of the debt had a high propensity to spend rather than save after the war.
The result?
Inflation.
Too much money, chasing too many things, homes, cars, appliances, and furnishings.
That was a very instructive period, and it was it was remarkable because Fagan parted ways with Roosevelt and Morgenthal over this issue of what would happen after the war when all of this debt was going to be all of these saving bonds were going to be redeemed, and uh the inflationary period we would have.
Uh I I'm not gonna try and uh out guess what's gonna happen in the future here, but I think this was a very instructive period of how uh people didn't really know their economics and think it through.
Okay, well don't tell them what give us the modern day scenario, what's what's going to happen uh uh after this.
Because there's no World War II here.
Well, that's true.
Uh the uh uh all of all of these debts that are out there, all of these uh um loans and everything are gonna have to be uh uh paid back at some point.
Who says?
Well, of course, if they can if they want to wave a magic wand and and uh put it aside, but uh this this economy has just gotten upside down.
Just but I thought Obama's gonna fix this with his uh infrastructure program.
Yeah, and the moon's blue too.
Yeah, well, we gotta fix the crumbling roads, the crumbling bridges and the crumbling schools and the crumbling states and the crumbling mountains.
We gotta there's a lot crumbling and we're gonna fix it.
I'm jazzed.
Okay, well uh Peter, thanks for the phone call out there.
I appreciate it.
So I guess we are to expect hyperinflation after a while with all this, either that or a very bad deflationary cycle.
And it if the for no, the the the danger of the the if Snergley just asked if if foreign governments are buying all this debt, don't we have to pay it back?
Theoretically, yeah, you have to pay everything back, but I called your attention to the national debt, which never gets reduced.
It just with every year's budget deficit gets added to the national debt.
But this, what's happening here is unprecedented, and it has never happened before.
There isn't the money to pay it back.
There's not going to be the money to even service annual debt payments.
We're gonna have an annual budget deficit of one point three trillion dollars, maybe more, in one fiscal year.
A budget deficit.
There's and with with all that's not they're gonna continue to buy the debt, but that they're not buying the debt in order to get it back.
They um uh at some point, I mean, m maybe, but the it's it's just like the federal government is telling big three auto, you want the money, here's what you gotta do for it.
The big danger here in having all this foreign debt owned by the Chicoms is the leverage they hold.
Uh and the and what other whatever other uh foreign countries.
It's the policy leverage that they hold, and it is the threat of calling the debt.
It's the threat, okay.
We need the money.
You give us the money with the threat that that's always hanging over you.
When you deal with loan sharks, deal with loan sharks.
Now, one of the reasons all these countries have been buying foreign debts, because we've been the economic leader of the world, and they've had an interest in our economy being strong and so forth, even while they compete with us.
It's a little bit more complicated than all this.
But the I look at folks.
Pay this back.
Pay it back.
Wait till you see what's gonna happen to the federal budget once we start nationalizing health care, once we start raising taxes on pay it back.
Arguably there won't be paying anything.
I just saw that the the the Citibank deal, the government's taking an ownership stake in Citibank now.
So they're taking an ownership, they're gonna be taking an ownership.
Barney Frank wants to own eighty percent of the auto industry.
Now, while this hasn't been stated, it wouldn't surprise me if someday, if that ever happened, for example, that he would uh suggest in giving the union.
Let's just let the federal government just give the ownership of the auto industry to the unions.
Anyway, quick timeout.
I'm long in this segment.
Got to take a brief time out.
Be back.
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David in Avon Park, Florida.
Nice to have you on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Good morning or afternoon.
Yes.
Hi.
Uh hi.
Yes.
Okay.
You want me to start then?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm a United Auto Worker.
I retired in 99.
My retirement salary was $2200 a month.
Uh the union negotiated contract.
Uh negotiated us dollar for dollar away.
In other words, when we get Social Security, uh, we lose it dollar for dollar.
Now, 2200, I get 1,100 from General Motors, I get $1,100 from Social Security.
Uh now, if that's breaking the bank, I don't know what is.
Um this, as I've said earlier, is a this is a tough thing for me because I've I have I have no quarrel with anybody earning as much as they can.
I am not at all like people who want to limit what people can earn, but I do think it ought to be earned, and I think it ought to have value to it.
And when you pay people who aren't working, it's a great deal if you can get it, but at some point the people doing the paying aren't going to be able to afford it.
Well, let me say something to you.
I worked 31 hard years there at Gerald Motors and three different plants, having to real relocate twice.
Uh uh the CEO of Gerald Motors right now is making 14 million.
Uh Roger Smith retired at 2.3.
His biggest salary was 750,000.
Show me a man that's three times as much re uh retired.
I know this age-old class envy argument about management versus labor is uh is is never ever gonna go away, but you know it getting into it.
You know it getting into it.
We all have hard luck stories.
I've been doing what I've been doing for 40 years.
I've been fired eight times.
I've been told I can't tell you how many times I didn't have the talent to succeed.
And I'm paying for my own retirement.
I'm not counting on anybody to pay me when I leave this because there's nobody who will.