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Nov. 13, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 13, 2008, Thursday, Hour #3
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Well, I got one hour to try to live up to that, because so far it's been a probably too meandering, probably too clock ignorant ADD stream of consciousness kind of thing.
But you know, it's real.
It's me.
And I'm so pleased that you are tolerating me.
Filling in for Rush on this day, and I so much appreciate it.
It is the EIB network, the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Mark Davis joining you from the studios of WBAP, Dallas Fort Worth, where I've been hanging out for low these past fifteen years.
In a minute, though, we're going to go to a city where I once worked.
And I know that creates enormous listener suspense.
But speaking of suspense, here's a guy who had some a moment ago because he actually thought I was going to put him on the air.
But it was the end of the hour, it would have been really short, and trust me, this will be much better and much more relaxed.
Let's head out west of Chicago along the shores of the Rock River.
In Sterling, Illinois, Bob, your time has come.
Pleasure to have you, sir.
How are you doing?
Pretty good, Mark.
Thanks for taking my call.
First of all, first time calling, and uh give you a brief history before I get to share uh uh Governor Palin.
I uh never really cared for Rush Limbar back in early nineties when I was when I got out of the Navy, I was in the Navy from eighty one to ninety-one.
And my cousin was like so adamant about Rush for us, and I said, you know what?
The guy gives a lot of uh points out a lot of problems, but this is before I even listened to him.
I said, give me solutions.
Then I'll listen to the guy.
Well then just recently I started listening to him for some I mean it was Sean Hannity who turned me on to him, really.
And I tell you what.
Oh, stop just stop for a minute.
That's unbelievably uh Sean before the I hated Rush, but Sean got me to like him.
Well the thing is, see, that way I did everything backwards.
Right.
But and now I know why Rush is who he is, and God bless him for that.
And I guess it's possible, Lord knows people have spent a lot of time analyzing that.
But eighty percent, maybe ninety-eight percent of the people who disparage Rush have never heard the show or paid much attention to the bigger.
Same here.
That's that would be.
But now I know something?
And I'll tell you, and since you've been so kind with us for time, wise, this takes nothing of the time away from what you want to say about Governor Palin or anything else.
I am fascinated by things people say.
And here's something someone says 47 times a day.
Um it th something about problems but not solutions.
All right.
Correct.
I belie uh I I I know, and you're right, and that's great, and solutions are lovely.
Sometimes there is no solution immediately at hand, and that the only way you really get to a solution is by really examining and examining and examining again the problem.
Let's take a million talk show issues.
What's the solution to abortion?
I know what it is.
Overturn Roe v.
Wade, let the states make up their own minds.
That honors the Constitution.
What is the solution to gay marriage?
To have these these these stupid courts like they did in Connecticut, stop telling everybody there's a right uh for gay marriage to enjoy uh equanimity with uh with heterosexual unions.
There is no such right.
But if a state wants to recognize gay marriage, it may because that honors the Constitution.
Here's the thing.
That's my solution.
But that might not be somebody else's, and thus the debate goes on and on and on, and so it really just sort of stays a problem.
I I guess so if if anything strikes you, and I'm not really talking to you, it's sort of using this as a lesson for everybody.
If anybody says, Well, it's all problems and no solutions, well, guess what?
Problems change.
The their face changes all the time, and uh and sometimes you stumble onto a solution when you least expect it.
Don't ever grow weary.
If something really is a ri a problem, talk about it.
Talk about it all day, every day.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Sorry to waste your time.
What's going on?
I think a lot had to do with uh the problem solutions thing.
Uh the military train I had in the Navy, and first of all, I served under the greatest commander in chief in Ronald Reagan.
And I tell you what, I learned a lot about improvise, adapt, and overcome.
And when Mr. Obama was running for Senate here, I did I you know I met him one time in Rock Falls.
I not personally, but he came there and speak, a little speech and all that.
And even then I just didn't there was something about him, I don't trust.
Now I understand what it is.
But like I Rush says you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
Well, a lot of Illinois.
I'm behind Emmy Lines, by the way.
I should be careful what I say, because I might get uh audited like uh Mr. Joe the Plumber.
But anyhow, uh get back to Mrs. Mrs. Palin.
You know, uh go you back thirty seconds.
You said you sort of came to understand what it is that enabled you to trust Senator Obama.
Um A, what is it, and B, do you still No, there was nothing.
Oh, okay.
You realize that this boy, like your disfavor that you showed the Limbaugh show, the affinity you had for Barack Obama was similarly baseless.
Right.
And it was discernment, though.
That's what it is.
I mean the thing is people that are voting for Obama, God bless him and all that.
But the most people I talk to really don't have much wisdom behind it.
It's all about you know bumper stickers and you know, I'm a Christian.
It makes me feel good.
Well, it's just it's the truth.
I mean, you know, God will give use the foolishness of the world to baffle the wiz the wise people and knowledge like Sarah Palin.
Everyone thinks she's uh you know uh uh whatever, but you know what?
She's a strong conservative woman.
And that's a threat to a lot of people.
But I you know, my main question was uh or my comment was she doesn't need to be a senator.
As a governor, I think a governor has more executive power, more experience, and can actually delegate and make a decision where a senator can just go with the win.
I think you you're very you you have a great point about that.
The um here's the problem.
You're I think the point has been made, and you just made it very well and she made it very well.
Governors have a lot more governor's job is a lot more like the president than a senator's job.
Uh however, if you're the governor of a state that is on the far side of the moon, which Alaska might as well be for most of us in the lower 48, and God bless those limbaugh affiliates in Alaska, I love you.
Um i it's an appearance game.
And if she can come down to the lower 48 to the seat of power and shake things up in the Senate as she has done in Juneau, that is nothing but good.
Nothing but good.
I you know, that's another point I never saw either, but you're right about that too.
But I just don't want her to change who she is.
No, and I and I think uh I even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn.
I I I I had a sentence last hour that I'll just be saying a hundred times.
I believe she would change the Senate more than the Senate would change her.
Bob, thank you.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate hearing from you, and God bless Sterling, Illinois.
Now, it's funny, and the the two minutes that I just took on that thing about problems rather than solutions, this is a neat exercise.
Identify things that people say all the time, and if and that have always struck you as weird.
And and disagree with them.
Here's another one.
Yeah, uh, in the corporate world, which is rife with doublespeak.
You ever have somebody say, Bill, you're too negative.
You know what?
God, did I go in this riff last time I hosted the show?
I'm sorry.
If if if I did, I'm sorry.
But this it's valuable enough.
It every time I come back, I'll tell this 60 second story.
Stopping bad ideas is a positive thing.
In a country, in a company, in a corporate boardroom, in Congress, in a governor's mansion, in a state legislature.
If you're perceived as the person who's always rising up and saying no, the person who's always rising up and and talking about what's bad with a particular idea, oh, he's too negative.
He needs to be more positive.
Those words are meaningless.
Negative about what?
I'm negative about the radical gay agenda.
I'm negative about radical pro-choicers.
I'm negative about people who want to pull out of Iraq.
I'm negative about uh all manner of things.
Flip the coin though, and I'm positive about people who want to win the war, positive about keeping the definition of marriage the same, uh positive uh about cutting taxes, positive about cutting the size of government.
It depends on what the thing is, whether I'm negative or positive about it.
They are the ultimate in relative terms.
So where am I going with this?
A question I'm often asked, is if somebody has identified you, hmm, Tommy, you're always negative.
Very civilly, say, Well, you know what?
Maybe the most valuable thing I can do in helping it to chart a positive course for this company is to point at b point out bad ideas and help us fight them.
Because without negativity, everything gets green lighted.
Hey, I got a great idea.
Let's put uh everybody's 401k uh into uh you know uh uh Bahamian uh golf cart stocks.
Hey, great idea.
Oh, it and if so what I mean?
Bad ideas deserve to be fought.
And if you're the person who is negative and preventing the ascendancy of bad ideas, that is in and of itself a positive thing to do.
My motivational series of books will be out soon on the internet.
Uh right now it's one eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two, one call from Illinois deserves another one.
This time we are in Centralia.
Frank Mark Davison for Rush Limbaugh, how are ya?
How do you do, sir?
I appreciate your time.
Thank you.
All right, well, the one the one question that I that I overall had and by the way, I agree with everything that you said in terms of with the bailout situation.
I really believe in individual accountability.
And if a person uh you know, if a person as you said, you know, they have a bad idea, well, you know, they have to try to they have to rise and overcome.
It's you know, uh the free enterprise, the business that I'm in, if we don't succeed, we don't have a business, and that's just the nature, and I agree with that.
The only thing that um the only thing I I guess I have to ask is is that when it comes to med when it comes to like health care, that's that's where I deviate off of that that course.
And I've heard a lot of conservatives they they've talked to uh the uh like the health care situation very much the same way that they've talked about uh but you know the bailouts and the holdouts and uh so the question I overall had was is there is there a conservative approach that can benefit all the American people?
Um let me take thirty let me give it a a thirty to sixty second, if I'm capable of that, a version of it, and then give you the floor back to see what you think.
The conservative approach to health care.
It's kind of funny, in keeping with what I just said.
First, let's identify the problem.
And that is government is shot full of the entire network of health care, government intrusion, government over regulation, government uh uh impediments to the free market uh price of of of things from tests to aspirins.
So the first thing you do is you get government as much out of health care as possible.
There we have identified the problem and done something positive by fighting it.
Then, in the free and open marketplace, individuals who need health care, sometimes through the insurance system, sometimes not, sometimes willfully not, are out there uh competing that these service providers, uh whether it's doctors, hospitals, uh, people who do testing, people who uh uh pharmaceutical companies are in a real marketplace rather than one that is perverted by government and inflated by insurance.
The the twelve dollar aspirin i is exists because some insurance company is stupid enough to pay it and they don't care.
Well, uh w we uh we have a an insurance problem as well as a uh uh a health care um marketplace problem.
We have the b everybody says we have the best health care system in the world, and it's true.
What it needs is to be unfettered and freed from government edict so that doctors and patients and providers of health care and consumers of health care can interact more like the providers and consumers of almost any other uh uh product or service.
Last thing there's something different about this.
It's not selling a car, it's not selling a refrigerator.
In health care, people might die.
And unlike you I could sit here all day and say, well, a car company might go under.
I can't sit there and say, well, Uncle Bill might die.
You we don't want that to happen.
And the good news there is the bailout, if you will, will be churches, private charities, and indigent hospitals, which will always exist.
People are not dying in America for lack of health care.
It's a myth.
I'll stop now and see what you think so far.
No, actually everything that you say makes good sense.
Um the what the the uh well like what you say, and this is the one thing that I overall that I applaud, and I thought that you know John McCain, I thought that John McCain in the debates, you know, he hit the nail on the head when you know he talked about, you know, his health care plan.
Uh it's it's just there's there's a lot of trust involved, and you have to forgive me for this, but I don't have a lot of when it comes to insurance, I don't have a lot of uh I don't have a lot of faith in, you know, insurance is uh or health insurance's um, you know, uh good will towards men, so to speak.
It is a spotty history.
Yes, sir.
And so I g I guess w overall, like what you had what you had said, and it's very sound, it would all rely on it, would all rely on the honor and the integrity of the insurance business.
And there would be and and and you know what, and I think the insurance industry would become more honest and become more reliable, there'd be fewer bad actors, fewer ridiculous uh claim uh crises when everybody's dealing with what things actually cost in an open marketplace rather than duking it out and trying to elbow each other out for the most inflated costs they can from individual pills to expensive tests.
I I need to scoot here, Frank, but but thank you for the opportunity to make that thought.
And and and if it resonated with you, I'm proud and happy and I love you and give and give us a buzz anyway any time.
Russia being glad to hear from you.
Uh from Central, Illinois to other towns, next it is the Rush Limbaugh Show, 1800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis filling in in Texas, and we shall continue.
1-800-282-2882.
That's the number on the Rush Limbaugh Show, even when Rush is away for a day.
I'm Mark Davis in his stead, much appreciated.
Down here at WBAP Dallas Fort Worth, that's where I am now, and let's go to a place I once was.
We are along the banks of the St. John's in Newval County, Florida.
We're in Jacksonville on WOKV.
Russ, hi, how are you?
How do you do?
I'm doing absolutely great.
Thank you, sir.
I I um in that.
Wow, let's do let's do something, because you sound like you're on Mars.
Big Jacksonville uh send up too there.
All right, you got about three seconds there, my brother.
Is that better?
We can fight through it for a bit.
Give it a shot.
Basically, uh, I've been listening to the commentaries before and after the election, and I felt like they didn't understand what I was hearing from other people out here in the factories and then the job sites.
And that's it, we're not we're not filled with class envy.
We don't care what the CEO is making.
We care what we're making.
Right.
We care whether or not we can bring home enough money to put food on table, uh you know, pay for repairs on the car, things things of that nature.
Right.
And um Yeah, I and I was telling you before, I heard uh we me and some friends were listening to me a voice tell a guy who called up and was talking about our jobs being shipped overseas, and he said, they're not your job.
And they looked at me and they said, See, see, this is why you know we don't vote for McCain, and uh because the conservatives don't get it.
Well, yeah, actually, I'm afraid they do, and I'm going to stick up for my brother Neil on this because it's not.
It is a job, which may be yours, it may be someone else's.
It is the decision made by the company.
Now, once you have it, it is yours.
It's yours to have as long as a job is a mutual relationship.
You are there because you want to be, and the company has you there because they want you there.
As soon as one of those uh I mean, what what if you decided to leave a company and the company said, wait a minute, you're my employee.
You'd get up in their face, sooner you're not, I could do whatever I want.
Guess what?
So can the company.
And of the things that you mentioned at the beginning of your call about making ends meet and you know, uh not worrying about what CEOs make, worrying about what you make.
You're absolutely right.
And the first thing you need to understand is government has nothing to do with what you make.
Government has nothing to do with helping you make ends meet.
That is not government's job.
It is your job, and it's a hard job sometimes when the marketplace waters are rough, but that's just the way it is.
And the better the sooner you realize that, the easier life will be.
Right.
Well, I am I understand that that and I understand your point.
And to extend I agree to your point, but what I'm saying is if people are going to manage this country, they have to understand that that when we're down here saying, you know, look, you know, we're when we're bringing up these issues, we're not saying, well, well, we're jealous of you because you live in a McMahon, you know, and and we can't even afford a house.
We're basically saying, well, look, we can't afford a house, which means the other guy over there making houses, he's not gonna sell a house.
Right.
Yeah, the the the restaurants around here in Jacksonville aren't getting boarded up because for but for one reason, that's because we can no longer afford to go out and eat.
Understand.
Now, what was that was that always the case?
Because when I did the first talk show I ever did from 1982 to 85 on WOKV, there was talk of an NFL team.
Jake God Bold was mayor.
They hadn't built Jacksonville landing yet, uh, the Rouse project up there downtown.
But the place was on the verge of a boom.
Of course, it was the Reagan years, which helped.
Things rise, they fall.
Everything is cyclical.
I under I understand that.
And you're right.
You know, it's not it's not always been like that.
But for the last 20 years, you know, the the uh the working man's wages have not kept up with inflation.
Now we're not talking about a matter of the state.
Boy, stop right there.
Stop right there.
They have exceed inflation has been non existent for most of the last 15 years.
Wages have absolutely out uh outstretched inflation.
Absolutely by every definition.
Maybe for some people for the uh you're not talking no, not for some people.
It listen, it depends on what kind of what you're doing for a living.
I mean, if what if if you if you're having a tougher time, that has to do with what you're making.
You don't that may not be the case for the guy next door.
And it's not certainly not the case for the country at large.
Well, the the the census says the according to census, if you go back uh to nineteen eighty-nine and uh or we got what yours.
I looked it up.
I got about ten seconds, go ahead.
The median the median income has not kept up.
Well, I'm sorry.
Well, first of all, the that is simply factually incorrect.
I love you, love Jacksonville, work hard, improve yourself, hunker down.
If things get bad enough, move.
That's a lovely option nobody talks about.
Come to Texas.
We're we're not sucking wind over here.
I I mean it.
And God bless Florida, you're doing fine too.
All righty.
I love all people.
Mark Davis in for Rush.
Be right back.
And he thanks you for that.
Referring to myself as a third person.
Rush here on the EIB network.
And uh it's funny.
I think Rush is tickled by the same thing that I am and all of us who do this for a living.
Um I do a local thing here in Dallas Fort Worth on Thursday mornings, usually.
Our local Fox affiliate has uh been inviting me over for weekly discussions of stuff in the news pretty well since 911.
And um i I love going over there and talking to those folks and and their great reporters and their wonderful uh support staff.
And um after I got there and sort of, you know, done the makeup thing and got ready for the TV bit, uh somebody came up and said, So, after the election, uh guess things are a little slow.
I I I think it just kind of looked at them and uh are you paying attention?
Uh it's uh it if if the election home stretch I mean gave us an enormous amount of material.
It's funny.
It gave us intensity of material.
It was all about Obama, McCain, McCain, Obama, Obama, McCain, McCain, Obama, Palin Biden, Biden, Paylo Biden.
It was all sort of on a on a a narrow track, but a hundred thousand uh watts of energy.
Now we got everything.
Everything to talk about.
The entire landscape of what the new president might actually do.
The entire landscape of, you know, the uh postmortems on why McCain lost, the entire landscape of speculation of what lies ahead.
If anything, I mean, no matter how this election went, all it was gonna do is yield an unbelievable fertile field of topical chaos theory uh that's gonna play out for the uh foreseeable future.
So be happy that there's a limbaugh show to guide you.
And plenty of local hosts like me on the stations that carry rush.
All righty, very, very glad to be with you.
1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in Dallas Fort Worth.
Let's head to and boy, we're talking a lot about this city, and there are plenty of emotions up there, and it's a pleasure to go back into WJR territory and say hi to Bill in Detroit.
Welcome, sir to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Nice to have you.
Yes, Mark, it's nice to talk to you.
Hi.
Uh I do disagree with you, though, as far as the buyout goes or bailout.
And I really don't think it is a bailout after you loan money to a person, it's a loan.
It's not a bailout, it's not giving you money.
Would this not be a good one?
Full disclosure.
Full disclosure, are you a GM employee?
I am a Ford retiree.
Oh, okay.
All right, go a go ahead.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Uh you look back what they did to Chrysler or uh and uh the 70s, we bailed him out for two million million dollar loan.
Fell into your own trap there, didn't you?
You just called it a bailout.
Well, it's uh it's a bailout except you want to call it that.
But I call it uh a loan.
Well, uh if if you're they paid the loan back, Chrysler took uh Chrysler employees took a pay cut, they worked it out together, and they come they survived it still stronger.
Here's the thing it's kind of a semantics issue, but that's okay.
Semantics are important, semantics are the science of the meaning of words.
Is it a ba uh what's the difference between a bailout and a loan?
Uh some bailouts you don't expect to get paid back.
Right?
That you're completely right.
And it is uh it's it is important to say that it that in the midst of this bailout, we do expect to get the money back, and it would be really nice if we got the money back.
Uh bailout per se, colloquially, is to get somebody out of a jam.
Uh I I would really suggest that if a friend of mine, you know, needed uh twenty grand and I was in a position to give it to him and I considered it worthy, and I really wasn't totally sure I was gonna get it back, I might.
Uh that's a bailout.
It's a loan and a bailout.
They're not mutually exclusive.
In in um in in the Chrysler case, it's kind of funny, and it's a always a valid question.
You asked, how old are you, son?
As it turns out, I I'm actually fifty-one today.
Thanks for asking.
And in the when the when the Chrysler bailout uh happened, I had just graduated from college.
I'd gone to work for my very first radio station, Charleston, West Virginia.
And it was like fall of 1979.
And even in my little mushy brain, I remember thinking, and and and by the way, this was not to avoid extinction, it was to avoid bankruptcy.
And I remember asking at the time, what's the matter with bankruptcy?
Bankruptcy is the appropriate place to be for a company that's run out of money.
It doesn't mean you're gonna die.
It means you're reorganized, you get your you know what together, and you come back to fight stronger another day.
Oh, yeah.
And even though and the Chrysler bailout worked out well.
With the government got its money back.
That didn't mean it was right.
I say something.
Of course, I'm sorry.
Now, on uh another note of that, though another part of that, is that if the GM or God forbid uh Ford or Chrysler goes bankrupt, there's a hundred hundred thousand uh GM or probably uh like amount of Fords and uh Chrysler that would lose their pensions.
Well, but again, you're equating bankruptcy with extinction.
Uh look at airlines.
They're there are airlines flying today that are bankrupt.
It doesn't mean you vanish from the face of the earth.
It means you reorganize, you really seriously look at getting your act together.
It now you are it doesn't mean you're wrong about that, because you're right.
There it depending on how the company chooses to reorganize, that may be one of the extremely difficult decisions they have to make.
They can that's uh they could do that in a heartbeat.
They can do do away with tensions, and our pen our living goes down, and uh for the three, four hundred thousand, they they lose most of what they have.
I have a feeling, because I clearly I'm not without sympathy, because and and in fact, let me throw you some cred that you probably weren't expecting, because this is your life, and you know who else's life it is?
My magnificent father-in-law.
Thirty years lives out out in south of Paris, Texas, but for thirty years served right here in Arlington, Texas, the GM plant right here between Dallas and Fort Worth.
Uh and they and they they they sometimes dread uh, you know, the envelopes that come in the mail.
Uh-oh, here the deductibles are going up for the health care.
I bet that's something you know a lot about.
And I somehow think, and it's weird because you're the guy who's worked for them, and and I'm not, I somehow, maybe I've got more faith in them than you do, uh, and maybe I'm naive too, but I think that they would try to do almost anything short of uh you know cutting all you guys lose.
I'm hoping you're right.
But I I'm and uh for Ford's for Ford's uh they've treat the retirees pretty good because they know we are what put them where they're at now.
Of course, ex you're the life blood.
Um your years of service to Ford were from when to when seventy-four to two thousand six.
And I also I buy Ford products.
My family buys foreign products, and we help in that way also.
Two things.
Uh first of all, I'm the proud owner of an F-250.
Love it, love it, love it.
First car I ever owned.
My dad just went out and got it.
I had he's he said, I'm not gonna tell you what it's gonna be, because I'm basically gonna get you what I can afford, and you'll love it.
And I said, Yes, sir.
It was a 1970 Ford Maverick, and I love the living daylights out of that thing.
Um I'd say I I kinda got a scoot, but do me a favor.
I uh it was a joy to talk to you.
Thank you for your service to the magnificent American automobile industry, and I really appreciate your voice in in today's debate.
I really, really appreciate it, Bill.
Thank you.
All right, it is 1800-282-2882 on the phone, and what we'll do now is head into Huron, South Dakota Stan, that is you.
Mark Davis, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Hi.
Hello, Mark, how are you doing today?
Good, thank you.
Great.
Say, I was calling uh a few callers back.
There was a caller that said uh by bailing out um uh different businesses, it's basically like rewarding rewarding failure.
And I I couldn't agree more.
I guess the one exception I I'm thinking about with uh the lending uh industry, the lending companies where they kind of got into that mess because of government policies and because they were being forced to take on loans that they knew would probably be defaulted on.
And I just kind of wonder what you think about, you know, maybe in that case, you know, it is up to the government to kind of think about it.
This is this is a magnificent point that you're making, and I can feel your caution uh as you as you craft tactfully that which I will now uh in in in honor of the last bumper too and I'll take out the Peter Gabriel's sledgehammer.
Here is the truth.
You you're you're absolutely Right.
Listen, a lot of banks were just stupid.
A lot of lenders were just stupid.
Like, what in the world are we doing?
Blah.
But some special dispensation is owed to banks who, with the government gun to their head, absolutely had to make loans for fear of lawsuit, for fear of discrimination lawsuit, for fear of allegations of racial bias.
They had to, as a practical matter, make loans to minority lenders who they knew were going to default, because if they had looked into the black or Hispanic or whatever face of the applicant and said, Boy, I'm sorry.
Uh you're just no way in the world you qualify for this.
That that person might well run out and sue them, or some government agency might take a look at the demographics of the declined loans and come down with the fires of hell on a bank for being racist when all they had really done is look at the numbers.
So yes, there is some special dis uh dispensation, a uh a little a little air bubble of of forgiveness, you might call it, because some banks did not make those loans by choice.
Yeah, and as far as you know, losing losing a pension or losing uh um your retirement, you know, if for those people that might think about putting their 401ks into the Social Security system, you know, they when Social Security goes belly up, well, they might lose those two anyway.
So, well, but maybe uh but it's Stan, great point.
Uh I believe that it's kind of like privatizing education will only strengthen it.
I believe privatizing Social Security will only strengthen it.
When people uh have the opportunity, not not by mandate, but have the opportunity if they wish, I don't think they'd have a lot of takers these days, to take uh take their their their fate out of Social Security and put it in the free and open investment marketplace, takes a lot of the pressure off the Social Security uh pool and enable and and and gives it some uh some breathing room.
That is some beautiful country in South Dakota, Stan.
Thank you for calling us from here on.
I appreciate it.
1-800-282-2882, Mark Davis in Texas in for rush, and back in a moment.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show for twelve more precious minutes.
And I'm Mark Davis, enjoying every one of those minutes as the fill-in guy of the moment from WBAP in Dallas Fort Worth.
It's been great to be with you, and let's go right here to my local neighborhood, if I may.
We are in Cowtown in Fort Worth with Rhett.
Hey, Mark Davis, how are you doing, buddy?
Hey, Mark, how's it going?
It's great.
Uh I've got a couple of things.
Uh, I think you remember me uh a few weeks ago mentioning this before the election that w uh a theory that I have, one reason, and I give George Bush and our military all the credit in the world, but one reason we have not had any more terrorist attacks is so we could have a uh a presidential uh candidate such as uh Barack Obama and then sub subsequently, unfortunately a president like this man.
Can I pause you because it's it's weird because I remember your theory, and I I don't know it's your theory, but I don't know if you phrased it well.
If I remember it correctly, it was you said that one of the reasons that Barack Obama may be electable and may in fact win is because Bush has in fact been so successful.
It's like his success will backfire on him.
The war's been so successful, we haven't had more attacks, and we're all so uh im improperly uh overly secure, false sense of security, you go, oh, you know, we're good, Obama can win.
Well, I think it I think it was, you know, that's one reason.
I mean, of course, Bush is uh has helped protect this nation, but I think maybe the terrorists, you know, this is this combination of both.
That's the reason now they wanted somebody who was weak on defense, such as Barack Obama.
And I I think part of their plan and is that okay, we get a guy in office like this, he cuts our military, he cuts all of our defenses.
Hey, you know, we're uh sitting ducks.
Well, that's that's the baseline fear.
That is the baseline fear.
I mean, if if if it's no more complex than that, Barack Obama's a weak president, viscerally anti-military, follows those instincts, cuts our military, pulls out of Iraq, empowers Al Qaeda, and we have another 9-11.
I mean, now will that happen?
I don't know.
Could that happen?
Absolutely.
Uh Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Go ahead, Scott.
I just want to say something else.
Kind of kind of related.
I think what's happened is the liberal media has brainwashed a lot of the American public into believing there's no danger, you know.
We're we're living uh this is pre-9-11, you know, everything's hunky-dory, and that's that's another reason that they elected uh, you know, uh, I will I will blister the media for anything and everything that they deserve, and maybe even some things that they don't sometimes.
Uh uh this ain't the media.
That it is it's us.
It we as a country, and maybe there's a media component to this, I don't know, but it's still our fault.
We are fat, lazy, war-weary, historically illiterate, and it's not the media's job to make us any different.
It is our job.
Remember, we're the ones who talk about personal responsibility all the time.
It's our responsibility to know what a war is, what it feels like.
Talk to some veterans of World War II.
They will tell you what casualties are.
Every time I hear someone uh uh urinate on this war by talking about 4,000 war dead, uh you know what 4,000 war dead is called?
It's called the summer of 68.
Uh in in in in one season of one war, just about.
Uh it is our fault.
It's there it's it's our fault.
We are societally historically illiterate and not strong enough of will and of spine and of heart to stand up in this battle of civilizations and win it.
And that's one thing that just happens to not be CNN's fault.
I love you, man.
Appreciate it.
1-800-282-2882, 1-800-282-2882.
Let's go ahead and take our pause now, come back and have room on the other side for maybe another person or two.
Mark Davison for Rush on the EIB Network.
Saturday night special, right?
Now, speaking of firearms, uh little story to tell.
Is this happening in your neighborhood?
I was in a sporting goods store the other day, and uh I was actually looking for a present for my producer.
Yeah, he's a big hunter, and I wanted to get him a little hunting hat or some little goofy thing.
And um it's a cool story.
Academy, sports and outdoors.
And uh wonderful store.
And I'm in there and I'm behind a guy, and it's and this will sometime boy.
You ever wonder what it's like to be rush?
You can rush go to a movie, God love him.
Can he go to a store?
Can he go to Target?
You know, uh it's it's just I mean, listen, and boy, and I don't think he'll be complaining about it, but you do have to think about this.
We talked about this here here in the in the in the Metroplex about what's it like.
In fact, I talked to Deion Sanders about this when during the time that he was a cowboy.
And uh we were talking about something, he was talking about the slings and arrows of fame, and I said, Oh, please spare me the violin music.
And he said, Listen, I'm not complaining.
I'm so not complaining.
But, and I'll get back to the sporting goods store in a minute.
He said, if I'm if it's Christmas season and it's toys are us, and I want to go buy some a toys toys for my daughters, I have three choices.
Go in alone, be mobbed immediately, and never get out and never do anything.
That's one.
Go in with uh an uh a security guy or a small entourage essentially to keep people off me so that I can go in, buy stuff and leave like a normal person, in which case I'm uh a complete you know what, or walk the line in between there, go in with a little entourage, some security, buy my stuff, and then take ten or fifteen minutes to talk to people.
At some point I gotta stop and I gotta leave, and then those and then those people hate me.
You so I I got no choice.
So anyway, fame has its highs and its lows.
Here's the deal.
Uh so I'm in the sporting goods store because I can do it anonymously, and because I ain't that famous yet.
And the guy's in front of me, and uh, and he says, Hey Mark, I love your show.
Thank you.
What you got?
Well, just celebrating the new president.
He's got like a hundred and fifty boxes of shotgun shells.
Guns and ammo are at a premium because I'm thinking people wonder how long they'll be able to buy them.
Mark Davis in for Rush, God bless you.
Thank you very, very much, and I'll see you whenever next time is.
Be good.
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