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Oct. 16, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 16, 2008, Thursday, Hour #2
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
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In the next segment, here's the late arriving news from Associated Press.
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation.
Before the presidential election, a senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to the Associated Press Obama today.
A second senior law enforcement official says that the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on Acorn offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations.
Now, be prepared.
I want you to be prepared for 10 days from now the FBI to say we found nothing coordinated.
Folks, I'm not trying to be negative.
I'm telling you that the liberals are all over the federal bureaucracy.
They're in the State Department.
They're in the Pentagon.
They're all over the place.
They're in the Justice Department.
So the FBI is investigating Acorn for voter fraud.
This is an investigation.
It ought to take 10 minutes.
Ohio alone, they can prove it.
And then go to Nevada where you're registering the Dallas Cowboys.
And then go to Missouri where you're registering the Dallas Cowboys.
And then go to St. Louis where you're pulling all kinds of shenanigans.
4,000 fraudulent registrations found in Philadelphia.
This investigation could have been done yesterday in half a day.
So we'll see what shakes out over this.
One more audio soundbite here from Joe the Plumber from his press conference today.
He actually had a press conference outside his house in Holland, Ohio.
Now, keep in mind, the press looks at him the same way they look at Palin.
Who is this freak?
I don't have people like this in America.
Who is this guy?
Plumber?
Wants to make $250,000 and vote McCain?
A blue-collar guy?
Who the hell is this?
Remember now, these reporters had to get visas to go into the foreign country of Ohio to interview Joe the Plumber.
And this is what he said about liberating Iraq and real poverty compared to American poverty.
You know, my friends in the military that have come back and told me the thanks that they've received for us being there, that doesn't get enough play.
I mean, we've liberated another country.
I mean, you know, freedom.
It's things that every one of you guys take for granted.
Everything that Americans take for granted.
I mean, these guys haven't had it.
Now they got it.
I mean, that's an incredible thing.
You know, our guys here that are poverty stricken have cell phones.
Those old people over there, you know, they have one pair of pants and a shirt.
You know, so what we've done over there is an incredible, incredible thing.
Here's Joe the Plumber making the case for the war in Iraq, putting it on the table in a proper context about poverty there versus poverty here.
And the press looks at him like he is from Mars.
You know what else about Joe the Plumber?
I will lay you 10 to 1, this guy knows how to install a Renaissance tankless water heater.
I'll bet you, Joe the Plumber, if you live anywhere near Ohio, if you live in Holland, Ohio, and you've heard me talk about the Renaissance Tankless Water Heater, it's a brilliant invention.
No more big tank, no more heating water that you're never going to use over and over and over again.
Put it in a Renaissance tankless water heater, turn on your faucet, it's there.
Turn your faucet off, it's off, six showers, the washing machine, the dishwasher going, you still got hot water.
And I'll lay you 10 to 1 that Joe the Plumber knows how to put them in.
Go to foreverhotwater.com, ladies and gentlemen.
In fact, Renai, we need to get this guy on as a spokesman as well, Joe the Plumber for the Renaissance Tankless Water Heater.
Go to foreverhotwater.com, find out how it works, and you'll be amazed.
It can save you money down the road.
Foreverhotwater.com.
You calculate how much you can save.
You can see how it would work.
You know, according to Obama, and I listened to his performance last night in the debate.
According to Obama, the purpose of taxes is not to build roads, pay for the national defense, or provide social security.
The purpose of taxes is to equalize incomes.
To Obama, the purpose of taxes is to punish achievement.
Now, I have to believe, based on if the polls are correct and so forth, and who knows, I have to believe most of the country has no idea how Obama looks at tax payments.
We're looked at, those all of us who pay taxes, Obama looks at us as many piggy banks for strangers.
If we make a certain amount of money, we're either going to put money in a piggy bank down the street or some guy will drop a nickel in ours.
That's Obama's economic plan to equalize incomes, pure and simple.
So instead of taking care of our own families and our own businesses, the Obama plan has us making deposits in other people's bank accounts with him as the banker.
You're upset about what's happening on Wall Street.
You're upset with all these banks and so forth.
Imagine Obama's a banker.
And he's going to force you to make deposits, just like the Clinton administration forced banks to make loans to people who couldn't pay them back.
Obama is going to force you to put money into his bank.
And then he's going to give it away to people who he thinks need it more than you do.
This is not America.
And it puts me in a good mood again because Obama's gone too far.
His butt-kissing media friends have gone too far.
This elitist BS might just blow up in their collective smug faces.
I think Joe the Plumber and Joe Sixpack are going to shove their elitism and socialism right down their throats.
That's what I think.
You know who reminds me of Joe the Plumber?
Todd Palin.
Todd Palin and Joe the Plumber could pull this country out of its funk by themselves.
They're tough guys.
They got common sense.
I'd run ads with them.
I would love to have media cowards in those ads talking about Obama's demeanor and his cool factor.
I'll tell you, like I said in the last hour, if I'd have heard one more time from the Fox All-Stars about how cool Obama, David Brooks said, Obama is a mountain.
He's a rainforest.
get up every morning and the mountain is just there.
I didn't see cool.
I don't see elegant.
I see somebody not even really human.
I see somebody devoid of passion.
You can spin it in his favor and you could say that he's cool under fire.
Or you could be more realistic and say he's cool only because he's cold.
And there's a big difference.
He's without feelings.
He's without passion.
He's a programmed robot.
Remember, he has learned well what he has been taught.
He just wants to win.
You can barely even insult the guy.
Like a Stepford husband.
It's really a cold customer.
And I think that's what came across to me last night.
Cold enough to cavort with terrorists.
Cold enough to cavort with people who want to overturn the capitalist system and make it socialist and do it by way of education.
Cold enough to dismiss small-town Americans contemptuously as bitter clingers.
Cold enough to take our guns away.
Obama is cold enough to spread the wealth.
He's cold enough to fundamentally change our form of government.
Cold enough to admire dictators.
Oh, by the way, Castro endorsed him again today.
And the Communist Party USA has a story out today.
Finally, we get what we want.
Yeah, let me find that right.
Which stack is...
Oh, do you know that...
What is this?
Yesterday was, and I will not lose my place.
Yesterday was Love Your Body Day, the NAGS was Love Your Body Day.
The NAGs, a national organization for women, the NAG, National Association for Gals.
For over a decade now, the NAGS Love Your Body campaign has countered the unrealistic beauty standards, gender stereotypes, and sometimes harmful messages.
We are constantly bombarded by media's ideals of what beauty should be, said the NAG Foundation president Kim Gandy.
The vitriolic language used to describe Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, Sarah Palin as a direct effect of the way media and advertising have created a world in which even the most powerful women are reduced to objectification.
Said, hey, you've been on the bandwagon to attack Palin.
What have I always told you, though?
Undeniable truth of life number 24.
Feminism was established so that unattractive women could have easier access to the mainstream.
So what happens?
The only women who mind sexual harassment.
I'm just kidding, drive-bys.
Just kidding.
Just a little lighthearted, interjected comment here.
You ever notice a Hooter's girl doesn't care?
You ram it down their throats day here on the EIB network.
Feminist truth, undeniable truth of life.
Feminism established so as to allow unattractive women easier access.
And here you go.
The NAGs with their Love Your Body Day.
And there's actually, they've got a poster sign here.
It says, I love my thighs.
Closes, I love my thighs.
Love your body day.
If you're a feminazi, if you're a nag, love your body day because nobody else does.
That's what this is all about.
They can't stand that there are still pretty women in the world, and they really can't stand that one of the prettiest is a vice presidential nominee.
But they do mention Sarah here as having been shellacked and attacked for her looks, so forth, objectified.
They say Sarah's been objectified.
But this is also about the women's movement that took away from us all the role of women in life.
It's all so twisted.
So now, Love Your Body Day.
Do we need a Love Your Body Day before the Feminazis geared up?
Love Your Body Day because nobody else will.
Oh, yeah, what else I was looking?
I was looking at that story on the commies.
Let's see.
Sit with me here, folks.
Oh, it's 8,000 suspect registrations of Philadelphia, not 4,000.
Sit with me.
Hershey's third quarter profit doubled.
They lowered prices.
Hershey's third quarter profit doubled.
They lowered prices.
Okay, well, it must have been a different stack.
I'll find it after the break.
It must be in my Obama stack up here somewhere.
Anyway, yes, I will find it.
At any rate, this country, ladies and gentlemen, is not made up of elites like Obama.
It's not made up of elites like the Fox All-Stars or these people in New York, Washington, and the corridor.
This country will respond to Todd Palin.
It will respond to Joe the Plumber.
This country will respond to tough guys.
And I do think when I saw Obama last night, I thought I was watching somebody cold and detached.
And that's another thing that irritated me.
Well, you know, it's a dry.
It's a tie.
It's an overwhelming win.
Obama didn't make a mistake, and McCain didn't force him into winter.
He was so cool.
It was just so detached.
It's so calm.
There's a mountain out there.
Here it is.
This is from the French news agency, a rare bird in the political world, the U.S. Communist Party.
I mean, a rare bird.
U.S. Communist Party, Democrat Party, drive-by media.
What the hell's the difference these days?
Obama campaign, U.S. Communist Party feeling rather smug.
At their New York headquarters on 23rd Street in Manhattan, Regional Party Chairman Libero Della Piana, 36, laid out why he thinks Marxist Leninism's time has finally come.
We're excited.
We feel that we're at a turning point.
He's an imposing half-Italian, half-African-American with a ponytail.
That's what AFP says.
We can afford to be less on the defensive for the first time since Reagan.
We can say that our word in rebuilding America on a new basis, rebuilding a better world, instead of one based on the greed of the few, the U.S. Communist Party founded in 1919, their time has come.
Now, why is that?
Why all of a sudden would the U.S. Communist Party be out there saying our time has come?
Might some of it have to do with the Obama campaign or with Obama himself?
Or there's another possibility.
Maybe these clowns at the U.S. Communist Party are having a party because they think so many Americans have literally lost their minds in this campaign.
In a further effort to discredit Joe the Plumber, CBS Maggie Rodriguez today said he's nothing but a Republican pawn.
Republican pawn, he spoke to Obama when Obama was going door to doors.
No, Democrats don't have pawns.
Joe the Plumber, also, they're going after him here on this, too.
He says he doesn't have a license.
And he says he doesn't need one because he works for somebody else.
He wants to buy out the guy he works for down the road, doesn't have a plan for it.
Joe the Plumber is 34, but he's working on it.
He and his boss have talked about a plan eventually where he would take over, but he doesn't have the plan in place.
He does not earn $250,000.
He wants to buy the company.
He wants to grow it.
And then he will get his license.
Jack Murthy said today in a prepared statement he is sorry for making the comment that Western Pennsylvania is a racist area.
This guy owes about 25 apologies over the last two years.
Yesterday, Murthy told the Pittsburgh Tribune Review that Obama's got a problem with race in western Pennsylvania and that he could expect his skin color to cost him up to four percentage points at the polls on November 4th.
In his statement today, Murthy said, while we cannot deny that race is a factor in this election, I believe we've been able to look beyond race these past few months and that voters today are concerned with the policy that blah, blah, blah.
Now, his opponent, for those of you in Murthy's district, is named Bill Russell.
This is Pennsylvania 12.
Bill Russell, remember the name, Bill Russell.
He said yesterday in a statement, Murthy was using the prestige and platform of public office to make wild, reckless statements about the people he represents.
St. Cloud, Minnesota, St. Cloud man was ticketed for unlawful dumping after admitting to putting dog feces in his neighbor's truck for political reasons.
A man has been ticketed for dumping dog dung on a McCain fan.
Now, of course, this isn't hateful.
This is just playful.
When the Democrats do this, they're just playful.
Oh, what a good practical joke.
Meanwhile, if you're just joining us, Secret Service has done a thorough investigation.
Scranton, Pennsylvania, they can't find anybody at Palin's Rally who said kill him.
Only the Scranton newspaper reporter, whose name escapes me right now, said he heard it, but they've done an exhaustive interview and they can't find anybody who heard it other than the reporter who obviously made it up.
And why would a reporter make it up?
Why, Jason Blair with all the other plagiarists and people that made it up in the drive-by media?
Here's Jenny.
We're going to go to the phones now, as I promised.
We're going to start Davenport, Iowa.
Hi, Jenny.
Great to have you here.
Hello, Mr. Rush.
Hi.
Oh, I'm so excited to talk to you.
I told Snurdy I loved him, too.
But my point was, you know, everybody wants to know who Joe the plumber is.
I think he's Joe the American.
My salary range is in the mid-60s, but someday I would love to be in that upper range.
I don't want to be, I don't want my incentives to be squashed.
I feel like Obama is trying to take our rights to succeed in America.
He wants us just to, he wants to squash those of us that want to succeed.
You know what I'm happy about most here?
I love getting calls of people like you, and I'm glad that people are finally getting it.
Obama did step in it.
Mr. Kuhl did step in it.
For all these people analyzing the debate last night, he stepped in it big time when he said, well, we want to take a little bit from you, spread the wealth around.
He stepped in it big time because he blew the cover of the Democrat Party.
Jenny, the dirty little secret has been, or is that this has been Democrat Party standard operating procedure for decades.
Raising taxes on people and then spreading the wealth around class envy, wealth redistribution.
This is precisely what the Democrat Party is made of.
And it has taken a plumber questioning Obama's tax increases and Obama stepping in it, Mr. Kuhl stepping in it and admitting what the Democrat idea is in a way that everybody understands it.
We want to spread the wealth around.
Spread the wealth.
We're going to take your money.
We're going to spread it to somebody else.
People understand that when you start spreading the wealth around, it means you're going to give it to people who haven't earned it.
And you're going to take it from people who have.
It's not just the rich they're going to tax.
And we're back, El Rushboat, serving humanity.
Your guiding light and shining star behind the golden EIB microphone.
You know, when I look at some of this post-debate analysis, and when I look at some of these idiots that these focus group people find to play with their little gadgets and meters during the debate, you know what I think?
I think there's so much psychology in this.
I think people go in, and this would be true for some of the post-debate media analysts as well.
They think Obama's going to win, so he won the debate.
The two just naturally flow.
Well, I think Obama's going to win.
Yes, he won the debate.
And I think that mindset is messing with some people's objectivity.
So I think Obama's being judged by where he is in the polls today.
I don't think people want to say McCain did something a little better than his opponent when he's behind in the polls, especially if you're a pundit analyst and so forth.
You know, I would give anything, just prove my point, I would give anything to have a focus group be taken into the middle room before the debate started and tells them McCain's up by 10 points.
Okay, focus group, you are real Americans.
You're the undecided.
You're the ones on whom this election is going to hinge.
And the results, as we have them now, according to the latest polling data, it's McCain 51, Obama 41.
And we're going to watch the debate.
You tell us what you think.
I'd love to know if the results would be.
I would love to know.
Oh, McCain get cleaned up.
Kick book this afternoon.
Kick book tonight.
He's up by 10.
I wonder if the ⁇ I think that this is a factor in a whole lot of people's analysis of this.
All right.
This is Hattie in Linwood, Pennsylvania.
Hi, Hattie.
Nice to have you on the program.
Welcome.
Thank you, Russ.
Hattie, where is Linwood?
Is it the Western Pennsylvania or Eastern or something?
It's Eastern.
It's about 45 minutes south of Philadelphia.
Okay, so you're not in the racist part of the state then?
Just wanted to establish that.
That's correct.
Okay.
I just started listening to you in the summertime, and it was a result of hearing your name mentioned on television on Fox News.
And I saw you for the first time on there.
And then people have mentioned about you and said things about you.
So that got me interested in your program.
And I do appreciate you and how informative you are.
And I worked for one of the top six banks that are out there now.
And I was listening last night, and I was one of the undecided.
And they tried to make it believe that, you know, you are where you are now.
And the undecided made us seem like we were useless going nowhere.
And if we went anywhere, it's probably going to go on Obama's side.
But.
Wait, who made you feel that way?
On Fox News, a couple of times when some of the people talked.
After that.
But the undecided were the ones that they were weighing everything on.
After the debate.
After the debate.
Their analysis after the debate.
Yes, a couple of people when they talked.
So I just want to understand how you saw this.
You're undecided.
You're watching it as an undecided voter.
They're talking to you as an undecided voter, telling you, well, there's no question here.
McCain didn't pull it off.
This is Obama's night.
Exactly.
Okay.
And see, the thing is, I didn't vote in the primaries at all because I was just disgusted with the whole mess.
You know, between Republicans and Democrats.
At that time, you know, I just said, I'm waiting for this bus.
Well, Pennsylvania primary was only Democrats.
It was Obama-Hillary.
That's right.
And I said, well, I'm just, well, it went a long time before McCain finally came out at the end.
But the thing is, I listened to the Democrats, and I went on and on like an old story, like an old lady going down the pike, so to speak.
And the thing is, what it is, the taxes, when I worked for the bank, and I just recently retired two years ago, the thing was, when anything good went along the pike, so to speak, we got rewarded with it.
And when things weren't going so well, we also did not get rewarded.
And there were incentives in the company.
When the bank was doing well, things were going.
But every time you turn around, the check would get smaller with taxes or the bank would have to up for your insurance, even though they paid a lot of it.
They'd have to up, you'd have to pay more.
And this thing of taxes, that's the thing that got me.
When he kept talking to him, when McCain would talk about the taxes, even though he doesn't seem like he's real forceful sometimes, I listened to him just like I listened to my grandpa when he was in his 70s and all.
He was older, so with a lot of wisdom.
You know, McCain was great on taxes last night.
He said, why not?
Yes, he was.
He's not going to raise taxes on anybody right now.
That's right.
He should not.
My mother went through the Depression, and she's the one who was also talking to me behind the, because I thought I was going to vote on.
She said, you got to vote.
I went through the Depression.
I was only 10 years old.
And my father-in-law, he ended up losing a job, and then he had to work in gardens and whatever like that.
And rent all many, many years before he could even own a house again.
So it was the taxes and McCain that forced you to decide last night.
Yes, he did because I kept looking at him.
And the other one, he's good at delivery.
He's good at speaking.
He gets an A-plus in school for standing up before a group and delivering very well.
But it's the same old routine.
Yeah, I didn't say anything.
No, he did.
Let me guide you here.
You're watching a debate.
All of a sudden, when the tax issue comes up, lights go off.
So, okay, McCain's my guy.
Then you tune to the Fox All-Stars afterwards, and they're trying to tell you what you saw you didn't see.
Did you think about, oh, maybe I'm wrong here?
I'm going to change my mind back to Undecided?
Yes, I was thinking that.
Okay, well, then what was it that kept you decided for McCain after watching the Fox All-Stars?
Because throughout my years of growth, I started out on a project when I was a young child.
I was one of five.
And my father worked two full-time and two part-time jobs when he came out of the Navy.
And I'm so proud that he did serve our country.
And he saw a lot of things.
Okay, so you just reflected on your own life.
And even after your decision that you'd made last night was, you got a little soft on it watching the post-debate analysis, you finally realized that you were right and you trusted your own instincts.
And that's so, so crucial.
I'm glad you did that.
I wish more people would trust their instincts instead of trying to imagine what everybody else is thinking and agree with them, especially when you don't know.
And especially, you know, in the old days when I was growing up watching post-debate analysis, my dad, we would watch anything political, and here would come the drive-bys.
And look, my dad particularly despised Sander Van Oker, who was at both NBC and ABC.
My dad got close to throwing things to the television.
And he would shake his finger at my brother and say, boys, you are going to be slaves someday if you don't get a handle.
If we don't get a handle on these people in the media and the Democrats, you're going to be slaves.
And my brother and I would laugh at him.
Slaves.
I mean, here we were.
We had just gotten a new car.
I'm angling for a TV set in the room.
And he's telling me we're going to be slaves.
But the point is, we would watch all this political stuff, and here would come the drive-bys telling us what we saw.
And they'd tell us what we thought we didn't see.
And they were always ripping Republicans and always raising up Democrats.
And my dad said, they ought to be shut down.
They ought to be shut down.
People ought to not have to put up with what these people have to say after debate.
We saw it.
We can make up our own minds.
I said, dad, it's the off switch.
You know, but he loved getting mad at them.
And I would suggest, folks, from now on out, whenever there's anything like this and there aren't any more debates, don't watch this stuff.
Trust your own instincts.
You know what you saw last night.
You know what you saw, but Fox is your station in many of your cases.
You tune it on and you got a 180.
You got somebody telling you something exact opposite.
You start questioning yourself.
Question them.
Question them.
Why is it we anoint expert status to these people, especially when they haven't demonstrated any expertise in a long, long time?
And it's not just at Fox.
You know, it's all these pundits.
Everybody's trying to be different.
And by the way, when you work for two places, when you work for the New York Times and Pin Schulzberger and you work for Fox News, you got a little balancing act there in terms of your on-TV post-debate analysis, if you want to hold on to your New York Times column.
Can't serve two masters.
We here at the EIB network, we serve one master, me.
And I serve you.
And you serve yourselves.
And in the process, we make progress.
If I could have one debate wish, it'd be that nobody would watch this post-debate coverage.
From the spin room, it's all so damn predictable.
Okay, now we're going to go to our expert panel at Watch.
And after we do the expert panel, then we're going to go to the spin room where another one of our brilliant correspondents is going to talk to representatives from both campaigns.
And we know we're going to get spun.
Lies like, well, I thought McCain sucked, said the Obama people.
And the McCain people, well, Obama's an honorable guy, but we thought our guy really did well tonight, blah.
And then we go to the host of the next show, who's in the same room telling us the same stuff that happened.
And then we're going to go to some other correspondent somewhere else.
It's all a formula.
And every one of these people, I've been there, folks, I've done it.
When you are on one of those shows, the pressure or the desire is to come up with something nobody else is going to say.
To be unique, to stand out.
And of course, if you happen to be a conservative elitist media person, one of the greatest ways to stand out is to rip your own party, to rip your own candidate, rip your own ideology, and then the drive-bys and the majority in town notice you and so forth.
But there's a lot of pressure to be unique.
And look at what that pressure brings us, gives us.
It gives us sameness.
The pressure to be unique gives us 35 journalists all using the word gravitas to describe the selection of Cheney as Bush's VP.
All this quest, all this action for individuality results in sameness.
If you thought last night Obama was masterful, that's fine.
I didn't.
And before I watched other people's reactions, who are supposedly much smarter than I am, you know, I had totally different thoughts than they did.
But as I say, I looked at Obama and I thought he was stumbling around.
I thought he was defensive.
I thought he was getting a little frustrated.
The camera on him when he's not speaking.
He's kind of doing an algorithm.
He's doing everything but sighing.
Kind of shaking his head.
Nope, Starts writing down furiously notes that he wants to make the next time he speaks.
I thought McCain, when he was on camera not speaking, was awesome.
He was looking at Obama with total disbelief for some of the things he was saying and couldn't wait to get back in there to Kerring.
I thought it was McCain's best night of his political career.
And I know that I am not wrong.
Well, the Plumbers Union, the Democrat Union thugs, are now going after Joe the Plumber.
This is from the website RadarOnline.
It remains to be seen whether John McCain's blue-collar hero, Ohio's Joe the Plumber, is a Republican plant or not.
One thing he's definitely not is a licensed plumber.
This is what they're focusing on.
I mentioned this to you about 20 minutes ago.
Away, though, he succeeded in raising the ire of a lot of his plumbing brethren, particularly those in the United Association of the plumbing and pipe fitting industry.
This is not to be confused with the pigiron workers.
The UA, the United Association of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry, was, quote, the first international union to endorse Obama for president.
Having thrown their support behind him way back in January, radar called them up to see how they felt about a man so inextricably linked to the world of pipes suddenly becoming a campaign talking point.
They said, you know, hopefully Joe put in his time as an apprentice and a journeyman so he can appreciate what it's like to be a working person.
A union spokesperson said, now that he has succeeded and has the chance to become a contractor and a business owner, he should really be supportive of Senator Obama's tax plan, which will benefit the working class people who really need it.
I don't know who this spokesman is, but this spokesman is just dumb.
This is why I said, I don't think people understand what Obama's tax plan is.
They look at look at folks, there's just a certain degree of ignorance that we're going to have to deal with, and it's rampant out there.
And I tell you, it is the most expensive commodity we face in this country is pure ignorance.
Not partisanship and not ideologues.
It's pure ignorance.
100% ignorance.
The most expensive thing we have.
Back to the phones.
This is Shara in Taylor, Michigan.
Hi, Shara.
Nice to have you with us.
Oh, thank you very much for having me.
How are you today?
I'm never better.
Thank you.
Okay, that's good.
I'm a longtime Hillary Clinton supporter.
And there is a couple issues that have been just frying in my brain.
The other day, I believe it was on CNN, they had a lady named Karen Finley on there.
She was a spokesperson for Barack Obama.
Karen Finley.
Yeah.
Wait a second now.
Karen Finley.
Well, Karen Finney or.
That might be because Karen Finley was one of these performance artists who would go on stage and lather her nude body up with chocolate.
Okay, my mistake.
But they had asked her.
Well, she can still be an Obama spokesperson.
Please love your body, babes, yeah.
But they were asking her about the whole Acorn thing, asking her if you ever gave money to Acorn.
And at first she said no.
And then they pressed her again.
It said, well, okay, so you never gave him $800,000.
She goes, oh, well, yeah, we did, but that was during the primary.
So I'm putting that together, and then I'm watching the Barack Obama spoken.
Now, this is okay.
Let me bring people up to speed who may not know what you're talking about because this came up in the debate last night.
I know you're just going to say this.
But Obama denied anything to do with Acorn.
And McCain said, wait, you gave a branch of Acorn $832,000, get out the vote efforts in the primaries.
It was in Ohio and Pennsylvania, a couple other places.
And Obama, that's one of the times he just shook his head.
But they did do it.
Who cares whether it was the primaries?
The primaries were just six months ago.
But as a Hillary Clinton supporter, shouldn't that be concerning?
Especially after watching the debate yesterday.
I mean, every time he was asked, he, I mean, when they asked about Ayers and Acorn, it was the only time that he really looked like he was looking at his hands and reading off of them.
I mean, it was very, very disturbing.
His answer on Bill Ayers was as filled with holes as everything else about Obama is.
And sadly, Senator McCain, I mean, he hit him hard on Ayers, but it would have been nicer if he would have explained who Ayers was and if he would have explained what Ayers is doing now.
But I thought he scored big time on Ayers when Obama said, oh, I was eight years old when he did those despicable acts.
McCain said, you weren't eight years old in 9-11 when he wrote a piece in the New York Times saying he wished he had done more.
I absolutely agree with you.
You really hit him hard on this stuff.
I don't understand these people who don't understand what happened last night.
So you're worried that Hillary got cheated.
I'm concerned that all of us got cheated.
I mean, I think the voters have every right to know what's going on.
And even if I recall, when the Hillary Clintons, like myself, were going to the polls, there was things on the news saying how Hillary Clinton supporters were getting harassed and getting bullied, and they just ignored it.
And it's just starting, it's just confusing me, and it's frying my brain, and it's just been bothering me.
Well, it should be, Shara.
Now, I don't know what, you know, Obama cheating Acorn during the primaries, but I can tell you right now that this Acorn bunch has been around 30 years, and they're doing far more than just fraudulently registering voters.
They are at the root of the home mortgage collapse.
They are at the root of what's wrong with education in the inner cities, the inner city schools.
There's no question they're being investigated in 14 states.
200,000 unconfirmable, unverifiable registrations in Ohio.
Hello, Acorn.
FBI, as I say, is looking into them.
I think you can be confident that the Obama campaign is cheating.
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