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Oct. 10, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 10, 2008, Friday, Hour #2
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It is Friday.
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It's open line Friday.
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The Dow Jones Industrial Average is at uh minus 338, the price of oil.
Let me check here.
Price of oil is $80 a barrel.
The uh price of gasoline is starting now to come down a little bit to reflect this.
It's uh well, some people are sad that the oil price is coming down.
Vladimir Putin's upset about it.
Just do you see that uh Puty Poot got a new little uh tiger cub out there, and he's out there petting this little tiger cub.
I just saw the video of it, and I was so hoping the tiger cub would just be a tiger.
Oh, I like your hand, Puty Poot.
Take a big chomp out of it, but it didn't happen.
Probably a communist tiger.
Uh official mascot now of the KGB.
But anyway, Putin's not happy about it.
Little Mahmoud Ahmadinizad cannot be happy about this, uh, nor can Hugo Chavez be happy about the uh the oil price.
But the gasoline price will start to come down.
Now, I I want to I want to focus on the economy again because I made a point in the previous hour that I'm mystified, and perhaps because I'm a realist and I'm highly informed on all these things, and I look at things logically as they are, rather than accept the conventional wisdom.
And I just I don't understand why it is a given that a tanking market and a teetering economy automatically benefit a socialist.
Why is it why is it said that this is it's just it's a media template?
It is a media narrative that there's gonna benefit McC uh Obama and people seem to go along with it, and I think the reason is, of course, well, it's change.
We need somebody new.
They're eight years of Bush.
Uh, the president, even though his party no longer runs Congress, is considered to be the one in charge and in power, so it's it's his fault he gets the blame.
So it's up to McCain to make the case here.
Now, I also said in the previous hour that you cannot remove from the economic uh uh melees that we're in.
You cannot remove Obama from it.
You cannot remove Bill Ayers from it, you cannot remove Acorn from it.
And I've checked my email after I've said this, and people say, Come on, Rush, you're making it why why are you nobody's gonna believe that?
This is such a stretch.
It's not a stretch at all.
What is the root right now of this economic problem?
What's the root of it?
Subprime mortgages.
Well, not supposedly.
What has happened in the subprime mortgage industry?
The whole concept look at HUD yesterday uh admitting five million illegal aliens were given mortgages without with fake social security numbers and so forth to go out and purchase homes that they didn't have to pay back.
Five million of them.
And that's just a drop in the bucket to the number that are out there and the number of banks that were involved.
Now, whose idea was this?
Democrats, starting with Jimmy Carter, and moving through Bill Clinton.
Who pressured banks via intimidation to make these kinds of loans?
Democrats led by Jamie Gorellick and Janet Reno in the Clinton administration, led by Acorn.
Barack Obama was part of a suit against Citibank, Citicorp, to make them make such loans.
The suit was settled out of court because of the pressure brought to bear.
Stanley Kurtz at National Review has as you know distilled the connection between Obama and Ayers and the economy.
Obama and Ayers served together on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where they funnel tons of cash to finance Acorn.
Acorn pressures banks, through many other things, CRA-related complaints to extend high-risk mortgages to risky customers.
Acorn works with Democrats in Congress and others to pressure Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack to further loosen credit standards, spreading the contagion of high-risk credit practices to the broader financial markets.
Subprime mess gives us the credit markets emergency.
Now, nobody's contending here that Obama and Acorn are at the foundation of this.
But it is their work, their belief.
It is their notion that it's unfair that people who can't afford houses shouldn't have a house.
So they came up a way that people couldn't afford them, could have a house, and it all led to where we are.
The idea that one of the participants and architects of this current crisis will be elected president on the basis that he's the only guy that can fix it is frankly absurd.
Democrat fingerprints are all over this.
And Senator McCain yesterday started naming names when he was in Walkershaw, Wisconsin.
Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, just a name too.
Franklin Reigns, it's all over the place.
You've heard these names left and right.
The point is, Obama has been every step of the way for strengthening Fannie Mae for resisting any overall effort to regulate and reform Fannie Mae.
He has advisors from Fannie Mae who raped the place for hundreds of millions of dollars as advisors on his presidential economic advisory team.
He is now lying on his website, claiming he had nothing to do with Acorn ever.
It's a flat out lie and can be proven and is being proven on various blogs all over the internet.
So the idea that the very people who are the architects of this are somehow the ones to be put in charge to fix it.
Sorry, folks, just because it's conventional wisdom and just because it's the narrative doesn't make it right.
It's a disaster waiting to happen.
You believe me when I tell you, there are people on the Democrat side of the aisle who are celebrating and happy about this for three reasons.
A, they want people suffering and hurting before an election.
They want people who have a little bit more than somebody else to be suffering and hurting a little bit more.
It's about time those people were gotten even with the winners of life's lottery.
They also are happy because the more pain and suffering you have, the greater the likelihood that you will fall for the notion that Democrats need to be elected to fix this.
And the third reason they like it is because it's destroying the capitalist system.
All the solutions being prose to fix this are socialist.
Government taking over this, government taking over that.
Government going to buy some banks, government going to take over the mortgage business, government going to take over Wall Street, government going to regulate this, government going to do that.
They love it.
They love this collapse.
Obama's not making speeches.
We have the tools to fix this.
We've got to use our tools, every two we have it.
He doesn't propose any solution that I've heard that makes one iota's worth of sense.
This economic collapse has been the vision of people like Bill Ayers and the people at ACORN for as long as they have been working on the things they're working on.
They do not like America as currently constituted.
They love this, folks.
They're secretly having celebration parties.
Now you might say, Rush, aren't they being hurt too?
Probably so.
Probably so.
But they have networks.
They're part of a network scheme.
They're going to be all right.
Wall Street Journal today suggests that Christopher Dodd be put on the witness stand.
Former Lehman Brothers CEO Dick Fooled was uh under oath on Monday when he was grilled on Capitol Hill about his role in the current financial meltdown.
But if members really want to understand the credit mania, they should also call Chris Dodd.
The Connecticut Senator has been out front denouncing, quote, the companies that form the foundation of our financial markets, unquote, for their insatiable appetite for risk.
That is one that is that is such a lie.
They didn't if in a normal, unregulated environment, no bank would have made the loans that these banks made unless they were told to, unless they were forced to by law, unless they were pressured by people from the Justice Department with investigations of no nobody with half a brain would make these subprime loans.
Nobody would loan money to anybody who didn't have an address.
Nobody would loan money to anybody who can't prove they have an income.
And for Chris Dodd to sit here and say, companies that form the foundation of our financial markets, their insatiable appetite for risk.
This is criminal.
Blaming it on these people?
Insatiable appetite for risk.
He also decried reckless, careless, sometimes unscrupulous actors in the mortgage lending industry.
He has proclaimed that American taxpayers deserve to know how we arrived at this moment.
Well, fine and dandy, Senator Dodd, then we propose that you take the stand under oath.
But Senator Dodd should get expelled first for his conflict of interest in accepting his sweetheart loans from countrywide and the Friends of Angelo program.
Dodd now claims that he never knew that he saved thousands of dollars in lower interest rates and fees.
But countrywide's loan officer Robert Feinberg scoffs at that notion.
He personally discussed the loans with Dodd, as he did with other friends of Angelo's, to make sure he understood the bargain he was getting, and that was the entire point of the program.
Feinberg points out for the extraordinarily clueless that was the whole point of having a special Friends of Angelo program.
I mean, after all, folks, why cut Chris Dodd a break on his mortgage interest rate and lose extra profit if Dodd was unaware of it?
If Dodd's unaware of it, you raise the interest rate and screw him to the wall.
It wasn't intended to be a secret.
It was to butter up policymakers and watchdogs.
Jim Johnson at Fannie Mae got millions of dollars in Friends of Angelo loans while he was supposed to keep an eye on the quality of countrywide loans that he was buying while at Fannie Mae.
Jamie Gorellick served on the Fannie Mae board.
She also got a friend of Angelo loan.
Chris Dodd sold out the American taxpayer for a few thousand dollars and a boatload of campaign contributions, and then blocked the kind of reform that would have prevented this collapse.
Dodd needs to start answering questions rather than serving as an inquisitor to Wall Street execs, and he should be doing it from the status of an ex-senator.
That's the Wall Street Journal today, and that is in one in an editorial, and that is exactly right.
So this mess that we are in, bought, paid for, sponsored, promoted, conceived, implemented, protected by Democrats.
There is no logical reason whatsoever to have these people placed back in charge in the White House or in Congress in a majority position.
As the Wall Street Journal says, a lot of them should be thrown out of office.
A lot of them should be brought up to testify to explain exactly their role in this.
Your home value is gone.
Your 401k is gone.
The Democrat Party did this to you.
Elements in the Democrat Party are happy about it because they think this is going to make you more prone to let the government fix this because they think they've conceded in making you believe Wall Street did this to you.
That your evil broker did this to you.
They did it to you.
They want you to believe they are your savior.
They are your ruin nation.
If given more power and half the chance, We'll be back.
Ha.
Welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
Let me synthesize this for you.
People who shouldn't be voting.
People who shouldn't be getting home loans.
These practices are undermining our country.
But these people who shouldn't be voting, acorn registered voters 7200 times whatever.
People who get loans, mortgages that they can never pay back.
This is the new Democrat Party power base.
The push to get people in homes they can't afford has undermined the economy.
The push to get people to the polls who don't even know where the polls are, much less who is running for office because they are either dead or they vote someplace else.
This will undermine the political system.
So you undermine the economy, you undermine the political system, and what do you do?
You destroy America as currently defined.
Obama is tied directly to both efforts.
This is acorn.
Acorn is involved in both fraudulent, massively fraudulent voter registration and the home mortgage crisis by pre- and it's a it's a Democrat funded group.
Do you know that the government funds acorn?
Not in this bailout.
I'm not even talking that was not even talking about the bailout.
Just for 30 years, Acorn's a 30-year-old organization.
And for 30 years, they have been listed as nonpartisan.
And they give government grants.
Obama is tied to the mortgage crisis and the fraudulent registration of voters via acorn.
This is a deliberate attempt to destroy capitalism, replace it with socialism.
It's all tied together.
Obama is the leader.
The foot soldiers are behind the curtain.
You don't see them, but they're there.
Obama's out there saying, Well, you know, McCain didn't say this to my face.
One of the bravest men this country has ever produced is John McCain.
Say it to his face, Senator.
Senator, it is time that this radical be stood up to.
You're the one who must do it.
You are the presidential nominee of our party.
This has nothing to do with partisanship.
It has nothing to do with race.
It has to do with solving this problem.
And we're not going to solve this problem by working hand in hand with Barack Obama and his buds.
A confrontation is in order.
State the facts.
Let the American people decide.
State the facts to his face.
Senator McCain, next week in the debate.
Easiest assignment he could ever have.
You will not be tortured for reporting the facts.
You might be pilloried by the press.
But that's nothing, Senator, compared to what you have endured in your life.
You'll be a hero again.
So the phones we go.
This is Marjorie in San Antonio.
Hi, Marjorie.
I'm glad you waited.
You are on Open Line Friday.
Hello?
Yes, hi, Marjorie.
Hi, I'm thrilled to speak to you.
Thank you.
Same here.
I was calling about uh the different ideas that are coming out of Washington about fixing this whole economic slowdown.
Yes, ma'am.
And it's driving me nuts that they're always talking about buying these bad loans that should never have been made.
Yes.
What we need to do is get cash moving in the economy, and what better way to do that than allowing offshore drilling?
Yes, in fact, you know, this is uh uh an excellent point, and one that I was gonna make later in the program is that you have called.
I will now steer into this excellent point, and I'll do it, I'll do it in the uh in the following way.
We keep hearing that we've lost X numbers of trillions of dollars here in the market with the decline, and eventually that wealth will be recreated if if uh if people don't say it will be the market's gonna rebound at some point.
Well, I say that I'm gonna assuming that maybe too much.
But the historical uh cycles are that the market will rebound.
Well, if we stay out of it, yeah.
Yeah, well, I understand your sentiment.
But okay, let's let well we've lost two trillion dollars at least.
So where can we go get two trillion more?
Where can Where can we go get it?
And you just it's just it's sitting there.
Two trillion dollars is just sitting there waiting for our government to get its hands on.
A government can get a two trillion dollars, not by taxing it, but by earning it.
Two trillion with all did have to do is, as you say, start drilling.
Exactly.
The royalty fees alone.
Listen to me, give you a little paragraph here.
This is the Congressional Research Service recently estimated the potential federal revenue from N war oil development at $191 billion over 30 years, roughly $18.36 a barrel based on projections of recoverable reserves, applying that formula to the 107 billion plus barrels.
Oops.
Hang on here.
Gene, I misread the clock.
I'll finish this when we get back.
Let me start this again.
Two trillion dollars is out there.
All we got to do is start drilling for it.
Ask me or answer a question for me.
Why do not our leaders go after all that oil and all that revenue?
Why do they want more revenue by stealing it from us with higher taxes?
Why there's there's all kinds of revenue out there and less dependence on foreign oil.
And what Marjorie was going to ask me was, well, wait a minute.
Now the oil price now is $80 a barrel.
Does that mean that there is less pressure to drill?
It ought not mean that at all.
This is what got us in this problem in the first place, is waiting to drill because the price was cheap and port it cheaply and so forth and so on.
We've had a tinge of what the future could hold.
We got to learn from it.
Congressional Research Service recently estimated the potential federal revenue from N war at about $191 billion over 30 years.
Applying the formula to the 107 billion plus barrels of recoverable oil that uh federal agencies estimate is in N war, the nearby National Petroleum Reserve and offshore tells us that sensible drilling could yield nearly two million dollars in overall revenue, two trillion in overall revenue in over 30 years, an average of 65 and a half billion dollars a year.
This from the Congressional Research Service.
So there is money out there.
There is way and it's uh we'll increase uh our own national security, all kinds of reasons to do it.
No, for some reason Obama wants to raise taxes on us.
He wants to re-regulate the U.S. economy.
By the way, the uh these polls, these presidential polls are just all over the place today.
You've you've got you've got Obama up four and a half, four point two, you got Obama up five, you got Obama up six.
I don't know about the poll that had him up eleven yesterday, but the let's see, what is it?
The uh Fox poll that was just announced this hour.
Get this.
4639 Obama.
4639.
Now, before you start focusing on the spread of seven points, 4639, this tells me that they're disgusted with with all these candidates.
4639 means that the people are fed up with these these campaigns until McCain touched down in Wisconsin yesterday and got a dose of it.
These can Obama's going to try to be as bland as he can.
He's not gonna tell you anything specific.
He's in the lead, he thinks he gets a natural victory out of the economy, so he is Mr. Boring.
He is Mr. Don't Upset the Apple Cart.
And people are losing interest.
Gone is the day where he was the Lord Barack Obama, the most merciful, all of that stuff.
He's even gonna go out and buy half hour on television.
By the way, we found out the price.
$961,000 for that half hour.
Some sour economy, right?
$961,000, almost a million dollars for Obama's half hour on uh on television.
So McCain's got to step it up as that rally in Walkershaw yesterday uh uh indicated, because 46 to 39 tells me that neither of these campaigns are lighting big fires under anybody, and it also tells me that voters do not sense any leadership at all from anywhere on this economic problem.
And I, if you're one of those people who thinks you're not getting any leadership, do not blame you.
I do not the president, God love him.
I have I have a lot of respect for George W. Bush.
And I can't call him a friend, but he's an acquaintance.
He came out this morning and he gave a little paternalistic speech.
We'll be okay.
You'll be fine.
That's that's the wrong, wrong attitude.
I mean, this is people want people think there's a solution to this.
You know, there are a lot of ideas out there.
People have thrown a lot of ideas, good and bad.
But that's all they are right now is talk.
Nobody's actually, okay, let's do that.
They're talking about it, hoping the market will react to speculation that we might do X or might do Y. Yeah, the government thinking about buying some banks.
Oop, nope, nope, down the 150 on that.
Nope, no, give up that idea.
Um the government thinking it's gonna buy the auto companies.
Oh, no, don't do that.
Mark it down under 300, don't do that.
Uh Obama goes up in a polls by oh no, a 600 point, oh, it can't be Obama.
Let's cover that news up.
They've got to do something.
If they're gonna do something, they gotta stop talking about it and do it.
If they're not gonna do anything, stop talking and let the market fix itself.
And that's what needs to happen.
It would be painful.
I was watching some of these clowns today on TV.
I don't want to mention any names because they're all the same.
And you know, you know who's really responsible for this?
All of us.
Living way beyond our means.
I'm not kidding you, a bunch of liberals.
This was on, this was uh this was on MSNBC.
And he said this all started in the late 90s, when we had this big bubble, and credit was easy, and the Fed lowered interest rates, and people could go out, not only buy new houses, they could buy a second and third car.
Then if they buy the new house, they could add on a kitchen or a bedroom, or maybe buy the house next door.
The quote was back in the early 2000s, you could have whatever you wanted.
And so people have spent way beyond their means, and the credit crunch is really due to the American people living lives they had no business living.
I don't want to tell you it doesn't matter.
Take your pick.
They all say it.
This is this is this is my point earlier when I've been trying to say that there are people happy about this, happy you're suffering.
It's your fault.
It's not Obama's, it's not acorns, it's not Fannie Mays or Freddie Mac's.
It's not it's not these poor people that had no business being given mortgages, and nobody's dumping on them, by the way.
Those people have been conditioned when the government office door opens that on the other side of the door is some goodie for free.
Can't blame them.
That's how they've been raised.
At uh at any rate, then this guy went on to say that's the silver lining in the cloud, because now that people can't get credit, they have to start living in their means.
Let me I I'm gonna I'm gonna give you you people a profundity.
And this is the essence of America.
And I some people, this is going to offend.
This is the essence of America, this is the essence of capitalism.
The desire of people to live beyond their means is precisely what fuels economic growth.
It is precisely what leads to increased living standards.
People pursuing better lives for themselves and their families is not living beyond their means.
But the desire to have more than you have, to earn more than you do, is the foundational building block of a capitalist system.
And we not, and that by the way, is a universal yearning of the human spirit to improve one's lifestyle, to improve the quality of one's life, to do so for one's family.
America has been the one place in the history of human civilization where that could be done.
And now we have the Democrat presidential candidate, Barack Obama, running around the world, warning and telling everybody our best days are behind us, that those dreams are not possible anymore.
And we've got to fix that.
And we're gonna fix that by putting the government in charge of dreams.
He tells people in Berlin, he tells little seven year olds who ask him why he wants to be president, come our country's not what it once was.
Um Barack Obama, uh, want to make it more government or it.
the quest to improve one's life.
And we're not talking greed here.
We're talking the natural yearning spirit.
It is this quest, you can call it live beyond your means.
All that means is to improve your standard of living is what propels all this.
And the minute people stop trying to do that, the minute people accept whatever they have and trade away the opportunity to earn more for security or peace blanket from the government, that's the beginning of the day that we lose what America is.
And if that happens, it's going to take us 25 years to get it back.
It's going to take a generation to get it back, because it'll fail, and at some point, young people will not want.
After they'll read history, they'll see the prosperous times of the past in this country say, why aren't we doing anymore?
And the answers will be right in front of their face.
Twenty-five years ago.
So the economy automatically redounding to Obama's benefit.
I don't see it.
As I've just done, the case can be made passionately, positively, truthfully, for anybody but Obama.
And I'm telling you, when I see a poll that says 4639, that tells me that the voters of this country are not excited about either of these two.
Which means to me this election is still wide open.
That's exactly what we do here, folks.
We make the complex understandable.
I want to go back to Walkershaw, Wisconsin yesterday for two audio sound bites.
You know what the drive-by's reported about about Walker Shaw?
Anger is the theme of McCain rallies.
Anger.
People in the rallies fed up.
Lunatic fringe, mad as it can be.
And they and it's because of the uh the guy who admitted he was mad.
Uh let me give you guys a drive-by's a little hint.
We are mad.
We are sitting around watching the country get reoriented and changed.
You're doing nothing whatsoever, representative of what your original job is, but we fight on.
Here is first of two bites from yesterday, since the media is recasting this.
Uh and they did not use the second bite that I'm going to use, the realtor who wanted McCain to name names, they didn't use that.
So we will uh expose it once again to our vast audience here.
Here is cut one of two.
I'm mad.
I'm really mad.
And what's gonna surprise you, it's not the economy.
It's a socialist taking over our country.
I think it's so important in today's country what we're really missing on what's going on.
When you have an Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the hooligans up there gonna run this country, we gotta have our head examined.
It's time that you two are representing us, and we are mad.
So go get them.
So they heard the message yesterday.
Then this, it was a town hall meeting.
This was also good, and the media spent hardly any time on this at all.
I'm a realtor witnessing firsthand the effect the mortgage crisis has had on many people's lives.
Well, you assure us that as president, you will take immediate action to investigate, prosecute, and name the names of the people actually responsible.
I will.
And it is already a matter of record that Democrat members of Congress fought against reform, and it's a matter of record in hearings that they said everything was fine.
Senator Obama a year ago said these kinds of subprime loans are quote, fine with him.
And the fact is that the same people that are now claiming credit for this rescue are the same ones that were willing co-conspirators in causing this problem that it is.
And you know their names.
And you will know more of their names.
Congressman Barney Frank and Senator Chris God are two of them.
So it's just right out there in front of him.
He says right out.
That's how he can, if he can boy do this, say it to Obama's face next week in the debate.
You've been challenged here, Senator McCain, by this man child.
He wants to hear it in his face.
Why you let him have it right in the face.
Well, goody.
Hubbahubba, down 593 on the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
Let's see if we let's see if we can make it 594.
I feel like an auctioneer here.
Down 593.
Here is, we're going back to the phones.
Gina in uh Chicago.
Great to have you on the program.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, I'm just excited to talk to you because I used to be a bleeding heart liberal until I started working in a socialist um form of government.
But anyway, I am calling you because um in the 1990s I used to work in a housing near housing project, like um Cabrini Green.
Oh, yes, we've heard of Cabrina Green here.
Yes, uh-huh.
And I worked there, um I was hired to um help people, I thought.
And what it turned out to be was like through the WIC program, and um, you know, we're supposed to do provide nutrition education and you know, this kind of help people out of their situation, is what I was thinking.
Wait, wait a second now.
See, that I when I hear this, I asked, what the hell are schools and parents for?
So you're you're in a housing project, Cabrini Green, and you're and then you're in there because you're a good liberal and you want to do good works and uh you got good intentions, and they tell you these people need nutrition training.
Yes, well, it's not just nutrition training, but you have to one other point I want to make is that there are there are probably over fifty percent of the infants in the United States right now are on this program.
But this is just another way for the socialists to get to them.
Yeah.
And I'm glad that you're finally saying socialists and capitalists, because that's exactly what's going on.
But when I worked here, I was trying to help people, and I was going to my boss saying, you know, people first of all, it was rot with fraud.
There were people who shouldn't have been on, they could have come up to me and given me a note that said I made five dollars, and they would have said, okay, here's your income, and they would have qualified for them them for the program.
But I don't think that's even the problem.
I mean, it was wrought with fraud, and um they just all they cared about was getting more and more and more people on the program.
They didn't care about the people, they didn't care about how the people are helping them out of their show.
Hold on a minute.
We're missing a key element.
What was the program?
This this program was a WIC program, and this is a Chicago, it was um a Chicago run.
That's a liberal favorite.
I oh yeah, I've I've been around liberals, especially liberal women.
I hope that women and infants and children program is not cut.
Oh, Bush doesn't take the knife to the WIC program.
Right.
But the but the the issue really more is that this is like Chicago, the Chicago liberal elite were running this this I was a a nonprofit federally qualified health center is what they called it.
But basically, they didn't they didn't want to help anybody.
All they wanted to do is write more grants for more money, increase their caseload.
They were not trying to help people out of their situation, they weren't trying to help people make a way for themselves.
And um we we would even they even asked us to register people who we knew were illegal aliens to vote.
So my job, instead of be keep being a nutritionist, start became distributing checks, getting more people on the program, and registering people to vote.
How long did it take you to come to the realization of what was actually going on here?
Um it didn't take too long, and then when I confronted my boss about it, all that she told me was, oh, if you think there's no risk factor, find a risk factor.
And then when I had a problem with someone that I was working with that was supposed to be under me, I asked her, I said, you know, can you if you do this, I have to write you up.
And she would tell me, you can write me up as many times as you want.
I'm not gonna do it.
And I went up to my boss and I said, you know, you know, can we can I get rid of her?
Can I wait?
I'm running out of time here, and I want to make a point about something that you said, because this is what converted this woman from a bleeding heart liberal to uh to one of us.
She goes in there under the guise that this whole program is designed to help people, and the very people administering the program couldn't care less if anybody gets helped.
It's not that, Gina.
It's even worse.
It's not that they don't care that people don't get helped, it's the design that they don't get help.
It's the design that they stay as dependent as possible on whatever meager thing they're being given.
And it is to create votes.
It is an attack on capital.
You saw it, it's an attack on capitalism.
There's no attempting if if these programs were designed to help, we would have given up on them 30 years ago because we know they never have worked.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
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