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Sept. 19, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 19, 2008, Friday, Hour #3
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Hey, Karen Tumulty, I have one more thing to say to you.
Karen Tummulty of Time Magazine saying it's racist for McCain to run an Obama ad featuring Franklin Reigns picture.
Franklin Reigns is filthy up to his face in this scandal.
He was forced out of Fannie Mae.
It's more is not racist just because these two guys happen to be black, but I'll tell you what, Ms. Tummulty.
This very intimidation on the race issue is what led to this financial crisis in the first place by forcing a bunch of uncredit worthy loans.
People being afraid of the charge of racism to do the right thing.
So let the fear of being called a racist angle them into doing the wrong thing.
So now you want to shut down McCain for doing the right thing here and focusing the attention on Franklin Reigns, and you're guilty of the same behavior and the same thinking that led to this financial crisis in the first place, Miss Tumblrton.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
And we have one big exciting major broadcast hour remaining telephone number is 800 282-2882.
Excuse me.
Email address Lrushbow at EIB net.com.
From the Associated Press.
Today.
Franklin Reigns, the former chief executive of Fannie Mae.
You might be said, Rush, can you get off Franklin?
No.
I'm going to tell you why.
Everybody's out there trying to focus blame of this.
Obama saying that he did things in the past that could have prevented all this.
Obama's up to his neck in this, as all the Democrats are.
We're talking about your mortgages, your homes, and what led to all of this.
And you need to know who it was.
It wasn't Wall Street.
Senator McCain is wrong to start bashing Wall Street in an angry way in a pandering way.
Wall Street, traditionally, institutionally, is not the problem here.
Now, I know there's some individual houses on Wall Street that did some shenanigans, but But we're talking about the housing crisis is subprime stuff, and that's what led to everything else.
And you've got Democrat fingerprints all over this.
And you need to understand this.
You need to spread the word to other people.
This is just this is a smidgen of what's going to happen if these people get total control over the economy and over the country as they're seeking to in this election.
Franklin Reigns, former CEO Fannie May, two other top executives are paying a total of nearly 31.4 million dollars in fines over their roles in a 2004 accounting scandal in a settlement the government announced today.
Reigns, the former chief financial officer, J. Timothy Howard, and the former controller, Leanne G. Spencer, were accused in a civil lawsuit, December 2006 of manipulating earnings over a six-year period at the company, the largest American financier and guarantor of home mortgages.
Reigns, a prominent Washington figure, who is President Clinton's budget director, has agreed to pay 24.7 million.
Now you may think that's a lot, but he walked out of there with over a hundred million in seven or eight years.
This uh 24.7 includes a two million dollar fine.
J. Timothy Howard is paying 6.4 million, Ms. Spencer, 275,000.
Reigns will also have to give up company stock options valued at 15.6 million.
The uh deal today announced by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, the uh agency known as O'Feyo, it oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack.
That's why Franklin Reigns is in the McCain ad.
And uh, by the way, how did this happen, you say?
How does somebody loot the firm like this?
From the Washington Post, April 7th, 2005.
I wonder if we should trust them.
If we could believe what they write, because they told us today that uh McCain's first mistake was trusting them and putting together his Franklin Reigns ad.
Fannie Mae employees Falsified signatures on accounting transactions that helped the company meet earnings targets for 1998, a manipulation that triggered multi-million dollar bonuses for top executives.
Armando Falcone Jr., director of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight.
Remember now, this is 2005.
Said the entries were related to the movement of 200 million dollars in expenses.
From 1998 to later periods, the result of the changes was an increase in Fannie May's 1998 earnings per share and the release of 27.1 million dollars in bonus pool for senior executives.
Fannie Mae reported paying the following executive bonuses in 1998.
Chairman and Chief Executive James Johnson, 1.9 million.
Franklin Reigns, chairman designate, received 1.1 million.
And it lists others that made other amounts of money.
Falcon, during congressional testimony, and in comments afterward, publicly drew a link for the first time between the falsified signatures, which his agency disclosed last month, and the accounting manipulations that led to bonuses, which O'Feyo disclosed in the fall.
This is why we're telling you about Franklin Reigns.
We had all this oversight.
We had all these regulations.
We had all these regulatory agencies.
And still the crooks inside the place were able to backdate post date expenses so as to create a larger income pool to be distributed for bonuses.
False signatures of employees inside the company, Fannie Mae.
This is 2005.
Reigns and his buddies are forced out in uh Chow, 2004, something around there.
So Reigns was forced out anyway.
That's why, ladies and gentlemen.
Now moving on.
I've got I've got Franklin Reigns Wikipedia entry here.
I'm not going to read the whole thing.
In June of 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported Franklin Reigns, one of several politicians who received below market rate loans at countrywide financial.
Because the corporation considered the officeholders friends of Angelo.
That would be Angelo Mazzillo.
He received loans over $3 million while CEO of Fannie Mae.
Three million dollars in loans while earning close to a hundred million.
On July 16, 2008, Washington Post reported Franklin Reigns had taken calls from Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters, also in an editorial on August 27th this year, titled Tough Decision Coming.
The Washington Post editorial staff claimed that two members of Obama's political circle, James Johnson and Franklin Reigns, are former chief executives of Fannie May.
And Obama is up to his neck in this because he was the number two guy on the list that got money from Fannie Mae.
Right behind Chris Dodd.
Audio soundbite time last night, CNBC's closing bell, Maria Barciromo, interviewing former President Bill Clinton.
And Maria Barcheromo says, Were you surprised the Palin bounce for the McCain campaign?
No, she's an instinctively uh effective candidate.
And with a compelling story.
And I think it was the exciting to some that she was a woman.
It was exciting that she was from Alaska.
Exciting that she's sort of like the person she is.
I get why she's done so well.
She's a mistake to underestimate her.
She's got good intuitive skills are significant.
Now, isn't this interesting?
Isn't this you got Bill Clinton out there saying, uh, don't think we'll underestimate her.
I don't think so.
I think it's exciting.
Some she's a woman, exciting she's from Alaska.
That's a mistake to underestimate her.
She got good, good intuitive skills, very, very, very significant.
Now, who does this undermine?
Who does this undermine, ladies and who would you say it undermines?
That's right.
the Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama.
By the way, the story I just read you on the scandal to cost ex-Fannie Mae officers was from April 19th, not September 19th.
So it's five months ago or four months ago from the AP about how much Franklin Reigns and these guys have to pay back.
Uh we come back, we got some, we got some uh uh Sarah Palin uh sound bites and a comment that she made in Green Bay today.
Too little courage in Washington, which is the damn truth.
They may not have left town, but they left the issue as fast as they could.
Reed Pelosi didn't want to touch this thing going on with the mortgage crisis.
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, all of the stuff in Wall Street this week wanted nothing to do with it.
Back after this.
Get this, they're working on, we're working on the audio, but Bill Burton, a campaign hack, spokeshack for Obama, was interviewed by Tammy Haddad somewhere, National Journal of Radio, some some radio, I don't know what it is, one of these in a website or satellite or whatever.
Anyway, he said, and we're working on the audio as we speak.
He said, Bill Burton said that my purpose, the purpose of Rush Limbaugh show is to destroy the Obama campaign.
That's right, Bill.
I have been working 20 years, 35 years for this moment, Bill, to destroy destroy the Obama campaign.
This is Chris in uh in Tampa, Florida.
We'll get you in here first, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, how are you doing, Rush?
Excellent onstanding, sir.
Thank you.
Excellent.
Good to talk to you.
Good to talk to you.
Um, I just had a comment here.
I actually used to be uh a branch operations manager with full spectrum lending, which is countrywide home loan subprime department.
And uh I can't tell you how many of my loan officers just thought it was absolutely ridiculous when we would get updated guidelines from Fannie Mae pushing our barely subprime customers up to a level or up to expanded approval levels, which they called, which is right between A and subprime.
Yeah, why were you forced to do this?
Oh, well, everyone we had that was uh uh within subprime guidelines had to be run through uh clues, which is uh the the program, the automated underwriting programs, and they would be forced to be pushed up to expanded approval if they got an accept on people who might have just been out of bankruptcy, you know, within a month or or had foreclosures within the past couple months, and they were still getting uplifted to a paper or almost a paper.
Well, we obviously know this is true.
If you'd have called here six years or six months ago and told us that, well, two years ago, I'd thought you were a nut.
I thought that you would, I thought you'd be a disgruntled employee trying to rip uh countrywide, but now we know that what you're telling us is true.
Well, I have I I loved countrywide.
They had uh they had their problems, obviously.
I'd heard of uh um operations managers up in the middle of the room.
Well, you know, Chris Dodd loved countrywide, uh Obama loved countrywide.
Franklin Reigns loved country wide.
I mean you there are a lot of people that love countrywide.
You're in good company there.
Okay, good.
But uh, do you know why Bill Clinton said that uh do you know why Bill Clinton said that uh we shouldn't underestimate Palers out there complimenting her?
Wants a date.
He wants a date.
He's setting a stage for a date.
Sarah Palin yesterday, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, pouncing on Biden's comment that it's patriotic to pay more taxes.
Now, our opponents, they have some strange ideas about raising taxes.
To them, raising taxes, and Joe Biden said it again today.
Raising taxes is about patriotism to the rest of America.
That's not patriotism.
Raising taxes is about killing jobs and hurting small businesses and making things worse.
This isn't about anyone's patriotism.
It's about Barack Obama's poor judgment.
All right, hubba hubbahubba.
She's always on message.
She said, you know what?
Brevity's a solo witch.
She's, you know what she does?
She just simplifies everything.
She brings it down to the basics so everybody knows, understands what she's talking about.
It's an amazing thing.
Politicians want us to think that they have these highly complex jobs.
Require convoluted answers to straightforward questions.
And even when we're given these answers, we are too unsophisticated and ignorant of their important jobs to understand exactly what all they have to do.
This, of course, is why we couldn't have term limits.
Sarah Palin's straightforward answers about her management style, about her view of why elected officials serve and who they serve.
That's a threat.
Her simplicity, her ability to make the complex understandable is what makes her a threat to the Washington establishment.
I mean, she sounds a little naive only because she's straightforward.
She doesn't have all the gobbledygook political speak that these other guys run around with.
As I often note, Breffinny is the soul of wit.
And it's also the f the essence of effective uh communication.
She doesn't have a convoluted answer as to why she sought elected office.
Ask your average politician, why do you want to be president?
Why did you want to represent your district?
Well, I've seen so much suffering, and I wanted to give up my time.
My country has been so wonderful to me, and I wanted to pay something back.
I wanted to give something back.
I wanted to go up there and I wanted to make a difference because I care about the people and I care about the country.
And on and on and on with flowery lingo.
She said, because the PTA was screwed up, my kids' schools was a mess, and I needed to fix it.
And then she kept climbing climbing, uh climbing the ladder.
Here's uh good hit for good measure here.
Uh Palin then went through this is Cedar Rapids yesterday, went through the list of Obama Biden proposed tax increases.
He wants to raise income taxes and raise payroll taxes, and raise investment income taxes, and raise the death tax, and raise business taxes.
He wants to raise taxes by hundreds of billions of dollars.
And at a time like this, that will make today's bad economy seem like the good old days.
And this did not sit well with the walking gaff machine, the man who's gonna give everybody in the country a toaster and any leftover rice cookers from Cuba that Castro doesn't need.
Joe Biden, last night's CBS Evening News with the perky one.
She said, You talked about tax cuts.
There's been quite a bro ha about your comment that paying higher taxes for those making a lot of money is the patriotic thing to do.
Your vice presidential rival, Governor Palin, said to the rest of America, that's not patriotism.
Raising taxes is about killing jobs and hurting small business and making things worse.
I am so sick and tired of this phoniness.
The truth of the matter is that we are in trouble.
And the people who do not need a new tax cut should be willing as patriotic Americans to understand the way to get this economy back up on their feet is to give middle class taxpayers a break.
We take the tax cut they're getting and we give it to the middle class.
You know, I don't care how powerful you think you are, there's one principle, Senator, you needn't understand it's not your money.
And when you start talking about who does and who does not need a tax, that's none of your business.
And Senator, the last I look, the federal government's spending what?
Three trillion dollars.
2.9 trillion.
Senator, do you think rather than raise taxes on anybody, then if you want to give the middle class, however you define it, a tax cut, why do you have to take it from some other citizen?
Why don't you take it from your own damn stockpile at the U.S. Treasury?
There's so much fraud and so much redundancy in government programs.
Don't tell me you can't find a little money out of 2.9 trillion dollars to give a tax cut to your precious million people.
Why does it have to come out of everybody else's pocket?
You guys have the biggest stash of money in the in the in the whole country.
Yesterday an Akron room full of union members, Joe Biden got a little red-faced and angry.
I tell you, Democrats, don't you step down from anybody telling you that we are the American values they value?
I have had it up to him.
Who's out there saying this?
What is he reacting to?
Has there not have they not watered his head enough here for the hair on the key of pet to grow?
Is there is there some dryness there in the brain?
What's what's that they're back to don't challenge our patriotism.
Don't challenge our values, even they admit themselves that they're short on values.
Who's out there insulting their values?
I mean, I will if they want.
I mean, they needed to.
I'm totally capable of it.
I can do a riff on it right now, except I have an obscene profit break coming up, Senator.
So we'll be back and continue after this.
So I got a uh question.
Is anybody you know if Biden has released his uh medical records yet?
His comments, his recent behavior indicate that he hasn't.
If he hasn't, it might be something we should ask for.
We should check into.
Might justify their release to the public.
Okay.
National Journal on the air, the host Tammy Handhead.
Used to be the original producer of Larry King Live.
Then she went over to PMSNBC, got out of there in a nick of time before it went totally off the board, took up residence in a combination of Pyongyang, Beijing, and Moscow.
She has uh Bill Burton, the uh spokeshack for Barack Obama on, and she said, you have an ad out there.
Includes Rush Limbaugh going after Rush Limbaugh, known as poking the bear.
If John McCain and Rush Limbaugh want to get their lot together and take us on, that's fine.
He's made no secret of who he supports in this race.
His radio show every day is an effort to go out and defeat Barack Obama.
That's right.
That's a purpose, Bill.
I've been working 35 years.
I saw this moment 35 years ago.
I've been working 35 years, my entire life preparing to defeat Obama.
No, Bill, we call this free speech here, buddy.
They call it politics.
We call it participatory democracy.
This guy's a paid hack.
He has to go out here and say this stuff.
Uh in fact, that's very true.
If that's all I did was go out there and try to destroy Obama, would not have uh have an audience.
But if my uh if my if my exposing Obama for who he is, if I can clear out all the lies and images that Burton and others have created around him, then I've done my job.
Some days I feel, and this is one of them.
Some days I feel like I need a vacation.
I just asked the staff, and is this still Friday?
You you wouldn't believe the uh the rep well I don't want to, I'm not complaining about it.
You just there's so much out there.
And I oh, here's the second Burton Bite uh head ad says, well, Rush calls Obama the Messiah.
I don't think that we're gonna do anything that either uh gets him to stop or gets him to amp up even more.
Anything that we say about Rush Limbaugh.
Well, it may be interesting for folks to chew on in political circles.
It helps to make a point about where John McCain is and where his politics are and what sort of president that he would be.
You guys don't get it.
You you guys are the only ones out there that apparently don't understand that McCain and I are not that close, issue to issue to issue.
So you think you can attack me and doing so, you're going to you're also at the same time gonna identify Mc They're running against me.
They're saying here is it can I interpret it that way?
Is it they're running against me?
Anything we say about Rush Limbaugh, while it may be interesting for folks to chew on in political circles, it helps to make a point about where McCain is.
They think it's gonna be easier to attack me.
I know, four years.
Howard Dana's been, we're gonna take the country back from Rush Limbaugh.
This flag is not just Rush Limbaugh.
God bless them.
Hey, Chuck, stand up, let him see.
Oh, my God, what?
Oh, geez.
Well, God love you.
You know, well, stand up for Chuck.
Go to Audio Soundbite 35, if you will, Mr. Broadcast Engineer.
This is this afternoon in Coral Gables, Florida.
As uh we mentioned the Messiah was protested here by a large number of black visitors, uh audience members to his rally, and this is some of what it sounded like.
You've seen gas less.
Hold on, guys, hold on.
Hold on, guys.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, everybody.
Hey, young people out there, it's no problem for you to put your signs up, but let everybody let me let me let me finish what I have to say.
All right.
Come on, guys.
All right.
So you're so.
That's hilarious.
When's the last time you heard someone?
Hey, come on, shut up now, put it down, guys.
Let me finish what I have to say.
Let me finish what I'm being pro.
He still thinks they're all his buddies.
Come on, guys.
Hey, hold on, hold on.
Barack Obama.
Let's go back to uh 2007 Nashua New Hampshire Rotary Club meeting.
Senator Biden held a town hall meeting.
What's he doing holding a town hall meeting?
Oh, he's running for president.
I forgot he ran for.
An unidentified audience member says, I've never seen this country so gullible, left and right, conservative, liberal, so forth.
What's your plan to bring them together and do with things right?
I would just down in Oxford, Mississippi.
I promise you.
Woman raising two kids in Oxford, Mississippi, has no different aspiration for her children than someone raising two children here in Nashville.
No difference.
This is a phony division that has been set out.
No, there's nothing phony about the division.
It's liberals versus conservatives, and it's entirely legitimate because you people are who you are.
He's impersonating how people down in Oxford, Mississippi speak.
Later, Senator Biden said this.
We did not nominate in the last two times.
Someone who could, in fact, lay on the table unimpeachable credentials on national security.
Anybody thinks we're gonna elect a democratic president who cannot table in this campaign unimpeachable credentials on national security.
You're kidding yourself.
Well, somebody needs to ask him about that as regards the Messiah.
The Messiah have unimpeachable credentials on national security can lay on the table.
He doesn't even have a plan here for David Axelrod writes the plan.
We're not gonna know what his economic plan is.
And foreign policy, of course, it depends on on what country.
We know that he will not participate in a joint protest of Iran becoming a nuclear nation.
So uh anyway, then Biden, Biden uh, it's a Rotary Club, August 13th, 2007, wraps up with this.
How is it that the Democratic Party, the party of ethnics, basically?
How did we, how did my party get to be the party of anti-God?
How did that happen?
I'll tell you how it happened.
We Democrats became afraid to talk about faith.
We're uncomfortable talking about the elites of my party.
The elites of my party took over.
I can hardly wait for one of these guys the other side to tell me about family value.
I can hardly wait for them to tell me a guy that needed every day for 34 years to be home and put my kids to bed.
I can hardly wait for them to tell me married to the same woman for 30 years after they've been divorced three times what values are.
I can hardly wait for this.
I'm sorry, I just I just I can't do anything but laugh.
And it's not that I'm losing my mind or I'm giddy.
I mean, I just I find this genuinely funny.
Because, Senator, let me tell you about the faith business.
Your base, the base of your party, the kook fringe lunatic base, and many of the what you would call mainstream in your party, hate religion.
You're scared of it.
They're scared of the faith that people have in God.
And I think one of the efforts behind much of liberalism is to wipe out as much God from American society anywhere they can as possible.
Be right back.
Don't go away.
Okay, we are back.
L. Rushbaugh with talent on lawn from God.
I'm seeing I find this fascinating here that the uh the Obama campaign, according to Bill Burton thinks that they can run ads on me and thereby position McCain With me, mention me, and they somehow tar McCain by mentioning me.
Now, you know, I um I I'm not that close to McCain on the issues.
And everybody knows it.
But Mr. Burton, Mr. Spokeshack.
If you want to see close, take a look at Obama and Ayers.
Take a look at Obama and Jeremiah Wright or Obama and Marx.
Not Ground Show.
Carl.
I think Carl is inspiring Obama's speech writers.
I'm not I'm not close to McCain on many issues.
The public should tie McCain and me together, but Obama's close to heirs and right, and the public should not tie them together.
Is that how we're gonna play this?
So I should be tired and feathered with McCain, and we should, and that's somehow is gonna make both of us guilty of something, but we can't talk about Obama being close to heirs and right.
Yes, we can, for as long as we have control things, because we are not gonna screw up the First Amendment.
And I'll tell you what the Joe Biden, I know you're not listening, but the word will get to you.
You know what your real problem, Bal is with this values business?
He has, what the hell happened?
I'll tell you what happened.
Too many of the leads in our party, you can't talk about religion.
You people cannot justify any religious discuss discussion when you are pro-abortion.
When you are gonna make the sacrament to liberalism something like abortion, and you're gonna support wild extremist feminizes who make every abortion a political statement and cause, you are canceled out.
You're canceling yourself out when you start running around talking about religious issues and faith.
You talk about big government, not God.
You liberal Democrats appoint judges who push God out of the public square.
And then you run around and you start pro-choice, which means pro-abortion, then you want to have you want people to think you have values.
When the number one right, the sanctity of life is something cannot be trusted with your party, Joe.
The right to life cannot be trusted in your party.
A baby in the womb is at risk with your party, and you want to run around and talk about values?
And why the country says you don't have values?
Why you have to run around to union members attack our values?
I'm not gonna take it anymore.
This is why Biden is losing the Catholic vote for his candidate, Obama.
Now try this.
Now, warning, ladies and gentlemen, a uh common term uh used for a certain female body part will appear in this soundbite.
I was asked by Cookie if she should bleep it out.
I said, give me the context.
She gave me the context and said, Nope, leave it in.
But if you don't want to hear it, I'm gonna count down from five, and you can turn the radio off for 22 seconds.
They'd make it 30 to be safe.
But if you don't turn down the sound, after having been warned, and then complain about it, I don't care to who, your complaint will fall on deaf ears because you've been warned we are not trying to shock you here.
Mild anyway.
It happened on Fox and Friends today, and an Obama supporter is talking, her name is Caroline, well, she's in Bloomberg News.
But she's talking about Sarah Paler name is Caroline Braum, and she's talking to Brian Kilmead and Gretchen Carlson.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Turn away.
Or don't complain.
Question from Killmead.
If you're a Democrat, for example, a woman first who sees a breakthrough.
I mean, there's a huge breakthrough with Palin here, regardless of your party, right?
If you're asking me, I think the idea that she would appeal to Hillary voters, you know, the the pro-choice versus not seems to be a much bigger issue than, you know, she has tits versus she, you know, has another body part that men have.
She's allowed to say that I look up.
Well, whether she's allowed to say it or kill me got up and walked off.
Kill me, it was laughing himself, still and got up and walked off.
So here's I the answer's nonsensical.
That's a drive-by journals from Bloomberg News.
Caroline Baum, what's the answer?
Pro choice versus not seems to be a much bigger issue than you know that she's a woman.
She says uh blah, blah.
Another body part that men uh don't have.
So many of these libs in hot water.
I and they don't even know it.
I've I've uh been meaning to tell you all week, ladies and gentlemen.
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I mean, this is not somebody just walked down to the five and dime or the Walmart and say, hey, give me one of these Renai tankless water heaters and one take it home and try it.
I mean, you've got to get rid of your old tank heater, and you gotta have people come out and look at it and survey your house and find out uh how large a one you need and where you're gonna put it and so forth, but it is worth it because once you have it in, you never have to worry about it blowing up, you don't have to worry about it going out, you don't have to worry about never having hot water, you don't have to worry about spending to heat water that you're never going to use.
The Renai Tankless Water Heater is uh it's a technological advancement compared to the tank heater.
Tank heater's a model A compared to the Renai Tankless Water Heater, and I got evidence now people are finally putting them in and they love them.
Turn on the hot water, it's there, it's there for as long as you want it.
Well, they got 35 minute shower, it'll be there while somebody's washing the dishes or doing whatever else.
Foreverhot dot uh foreverhotwater.com is the website.
It'll show you how it works.
It's amazing, and it'll give you a little calculator there to show you how much you can save once it's installed.
Foreverhotwater.com.
Julie in Oklahoma City, it's great to have you back.
I remember you.
How are you?
Oh, I'm wonderful.
How are you?
Never better.
Really?
Well, I want to What you want me to say, okay?
I could be better.
What do you want to say?
No, I I want you to say what you feel.
That's why I like you.
Great.
I'm never better.
Well, I was just calling to tell you.
Um, I will be graduating from my police science cops program in two months.
And I've sent two applications out to two police departments, and they have both accepted my applications.
Now that that is fabulous.
I I I I want to uh I want to review your story for people.
I've got about a minute and fifteen seconds here, but you called two years ago.
You want you you wanted to go back to school to become a police officer.
Your family told you that uh you'd never be able to do it, had a lot of people say don't work.
What do you want to do that?
It's stupid, but that was your passion.
You went ahead and did it anyway.
You were fighting against a whole bunch of obstacles, and now you're what how far from graduation?
Uh about eight weeks.
Eight weeks of graduation, and you've got two applications already out.
Accepted.
Accepted.
Yes.
So you had your dream.
This is great.
This is a great follow-up story.
You had your dream, you stuck to it, you remain dedicated to your desires, and are you gonna get to do what you always want.
And how old are you?
Thirty-one.
Thirty-one.
That was part of the story, too.
Uh-huh.
Because you were going back to school and all how's the family now?
How do they feel now?
Um that's a whole nother story, but my children are proud, so.
Well, that's what counts.
Yeah, and you know, it has nothing to do with hope.
It has to do with hard work, right?
Nothing to do with hope.
It has to do with Yeah, hope, you know, hope's an excuse for not doing anything.
It's all hard work.
Well, congratulations.
Every bit of it, so and I just wanted to tell you thank you again because you were such a big part of it, even though you didn't even know it.
So you just keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you.
I will, but remember, you did the work.
Thank you, Julie, very much.
We've got a brief time, and I love these stories because they happen all over the country.
You just don't hear about it.
We'll be back after this.
Get this.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average, if it closes where it is today, will finish ahead for the week.
Ahead for the week.
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