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Aug. 27, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 27, 2008, Wednesday, Hour #2
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We welcome to the EIB Network, Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, who is in New York at this hour.
Governor, welcome to the program.
Thank you very much, Rush.
It's been a long time and been listening to you for many years.
You're a great American.
Thank you.
So are you, sir?
Now, let's get right to the chase here.
I said something a couple weeks ago, maybe 10 days ago, about you and Governor Romney that you strenuously objected to.
What was it that I said that was incorrect?
Well, that I had made an issue out of his religion and that had sort of poisoned him with evangelicals.
And that's simply not true.
You know, one of the things that I've been very adamant about is that I don't think his religion has one thing to do with whether or not people should support him.
Some of my favorite public servants in America happen to be the same religion he is the Mormon religion.
That'd be people like Mike Levitt, Orrin Hatch, John Huntsman, the current governor of Utah.
Great people.
They're not.
It has nothing to do with it.
Yeah, but they're not running for president nor running against you for the nomination.
I guess I track this back to at one point you talking about what Romney believes that Christ and Lucifer were brothers.
It was a question that I actually asked of the New York Times magazine writer because he knew a lot more about Mormonism than I did.
It appeared as 11 words in about a 10,000-word story, and that got all the play.
I personally apologize to Mitt because it did come across wrong, and I said it's simply not the way I feel, and it isn't.
And I don't think Mitt Romney's religion has a thing to do with it.
I think, you know, a record has to do with it, but not his religion.
And frankly, my attitude is that the primary is over.
We need to get behind John McCain, support him.
He's our best chance right now, our only chance to beat Barack Obama.
And Barack Obama would destroy small business.
His plans for higher taxes would be abominable.
And his absolutely, frankly, deplorable view about when life begins is nothing short of frightening.
Well, he's got a Pelosi problem on that.
You know, she's been denounced by as many Catholic church leaders as have chosen to spoke out on it, and she's standing by it.
You know, these people are sitting ducks.
I think if the Republican campaign is run the right way, are you on the vice presidential shortlist?
I don't even think I'm on the long list.
I mean, I have not been asked to pack a bag to go to Dayton on Friday, so I don't think there's any illusion.
I mean, if he's looking for a female, the closest I would get is if they would ask me to maybe dress in drag and run that way, but I don't think that's going to happen.
So, no, I don't think I'm on the list at all.
Who do you think is going to be named?
Do you have any inside information?
No, nothing inside.
I don't have a clue.
I mean, he may throw the long ball and pick somebody like a Frank Keating, somebody that hadn't even been talked about, because everybody's focused on a handful of names.
And, you know, McCain just might shock the daylights out of all of us.
What do you think he needs to accomplish with his vice presidential pick?
He's got to get somebody who can rally the base and make people want to go out and nail yard signs, make phone calls, walk streets and drink warm Cokes and eat cold pizza for about a month to get out the vote.
Okay, let's go, Susan.
Can Tom Ridge do that, do you think?
I love Tom Ridge.
Good friend.
And I would support him.
I wish he were pro-life.
But Tom Ridge won't rally the base.
We've got to have a pro-life person who is unapologetically fired up about believing that life begins at conception and that it's an important issue.
And for many of us, this is not a peripheral political issue.
This is an issue of principle upon which we think the country was founded, that all of us are created equal, that every life has worth and value, and that once you decide that some lives aren't worth as much as other lives, you make a sharp left turn toward a direction that this country can ill afford to go.
Speaking here with Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, I guess then you would have to rule out from your preference list Senator Lieberman and Mayor Giuliani.
Well, Lieberman would be a disaster from my perspective because Republicans want to elect a Republican.
And how would you have a debate between Lieberman and Biden when they essentially would sit down there and drink a cup of coffee and agree with each other during the vice presidential debate?
And you've got to have somebody that, when that person goes up against Joe Biden, takes it to him and can go right to his face and put a little elbow in there underneath the basket.
You know, I was surprised by the Biden pick in a way.
That to me was like going to Baskin-Robbins and picking vanilla.
And I could not understand what he was thinking in that.
And I think the polls are now reflecting that it shows a lack of judgment and capacity to think about the playing field out there.
Well, the general consensus opinion on this in terms of punditry analysis is that Obama just did horribly in Pennsylvania.
And that's why during their joint appearance, they mentioned Scranton, Pennsylvania is Biden's hometown five times.
They're trying to convince Democrats that Biden is a Pennsylvanian.
If they lose Pennsylvania, they're done.
And I think this was a pick.
I mean, it's wrong in so many ways.
There's nothing change-oriented.
There's nothing outside why there's nothing universally unique about Biden.
And here's a guy in two presidential runs has never gotten more than 5% in Iowa.
And the idea that he's going to bring votes to the Democrat ticket, it is puzzling.
And maybe it's an acknowledgement of Obama's weaknesses on foreign policy and the presumed strength that Biden has on it.
Well, if Biden were a great vote-getter, he would have done better than the 2,000 or 3,000 votes he got during the entire Democratic primary.
I think that sort of sums it all up.
I mean, the obvious choice if he'd have wanted to unite the Democratic Party and get them all electrified would have been to pick Hillary, and that would have fired him up and brought him together.
Hey, he picks Hillary.
That means he's got to have somebody taste his food every day and start his car for him.
What about Rudy?
You know, Rudy has a lot of pluses in terms of his perception as a strong, strong guy on terror, but that's McCain's strength.
So, you know, you have two guys who are essentially going to have the same strength going into the race.
You know, Rudy's pro-choice, too.
Yeah, and I think, you know, for many people, that's going to be a problem.
My attitude is John McCain is pro-life.
He's clear about that.
And I'm going to support him because he's certainly got a much clearer understanding of when life begins than Barack Obama, who after 47 years of life says it's above his pay grade.
Well, you know, quite frankly, if you're 47 and you hadn't thought about that a human life is valuable and it begins at conception, for all the talk liberals have about their love of science and how much they embrace it and how much they depend upon it to believe in global warming and to deny the existence of creation,
you know, it's interesting to me that the most irrefutable part of science is that when 23 chromosomes from male and female unite and create 46 unique chromosomes in a DNA schedule, that's not only a life, but it's a human life.
It's not a stock of broccoli.
It's not a golden retriever.
It's a human life, and that's irrefutable science.
It's like Peggy Noona.
This is one of the best ways to explain this that I've ever heard.
If life doesn't begin a conception, why are people buying condoms by the package?
Why are they taking a birth control pill?
What about Tim Polenti?
I like Tim.
Tim and I were governors together.
He's a very, very sharp person.
He's been a reform-focused governor in Minnesota.
The only thing that will be somewhat problematic is not many people know him, and he's never had the experience at that level on the national stage.
But I think he's got the capacity and simply the intellect to be able to be a good choice.
Yeah, but one thing that recommends him, he's a governor.
We don't need four senators running for president and vice president.
That's one thing that's attractive to him.
Now, I got to ask, Romney, I know your problem with Romney is you don't trust his record.
You think he's foot-flopped and too many things, and so you don't know who the real Romney is.
But what do you think of him on the vice presidential ticket?
Well, I mean, if McCain picks him, I'm still going to support McCain.
I mean, again, as I've said many times, my problem with Romney was that Romney beat the rest of us up on issues where we had a real strength of record.
You know, I'd been a tax cutter.
I'd built roads.
I had an incredible pro-life record.
You know, during the primary, Romney attacked McCain.
He attacked me.
One of the problems that I think McCain would have if he picked Romney was that it takes the Joe Biden issue off the table where Biden is saying great things about McCain and terrible things about Obama.
You know, they'll be running those tapes back over and over during the debates when Romney was attacking McCain and saying, which time do we trust you, then or now?
Well, but wait a minute.
That's true for both parties.
And McCain's running ads right now featuring Hillary endorsing him.
There is a gold mine of Hillary audio and video that McCain can make an ad of.
Those things happen in primaries.
I mean, you guys were ganging up on Romney, too.
That's what politics is.
I mean, you and McCain joined together in West Virginia on the second or third ballot to take the state for McCain.
I mean, that's hard ball.
You know, it really wasn't us.
The truth is, it was the Ron Paul people who got with our delegates, and there really wasn't a deal cut with the McCain people in West Virginia.
Really?
It was the Ron Paul people who said, we just want a little bit of respect, and if our guy doesn't win on the first ballot, we'll vote for you.
Really, that is not the way it was explained to me.
That's what happened.
I was there.
I know.
I was there.
I know.
Okay, well, look, Governor, I appreciate you giving me the chance here to have the record corrected the way I mischaracterized your opposition to Romney.
It's great to have you on the program, and all the best to you.
Since I do have you, what do you want to do next?
I hear you've have you done a pilot for Fox?
We're working on a program.
I haven't done a pilot yet, but hopefully we'll have something.
I'm doing some Fox contributing things.
I've got a book coming out in November.
And, you know, I failed the auditions for Dancing with the Stars and didn't make the cut on the American Idol.
So, you know, I'm looking for something else to fill in the gaps.
Well, good luck to you, and I hope you find something you love.
Well, I'm sure I will.
I love this country.
I love our party, and I love the principles we stand for.
I want to get John McCain elected so we don't lose the greatness of this nation.
Are you going to St. Paul?
Oh, yeah.
Let me ask you a question.
I'm serious about this.
This hurricane down there is brewing, and if they're right, and this is very early, their range of error is 300 miles, four and five days out.
But the models are starting to coalesce on the Mobile, Alabama, New Orleans area early Monday morning, 2, 8 a.m. something.
If this hurricane and a Cat 3 Cat Ford bears down in New Orleans while the Republicans are in St. Paul, I can just see Obama and Biden in New Orleans, sandbags going down and bottled water.
What would the Republican Party do, do you think?
You know, half the media would decamp St. Paul for New Orleans.
Is there anybody that you've talked to planning this convention that's putting together some way to deal with this?
I think they've called in Pat Robertson to pray it off the coast.
Like Fidel Castro does down in Cuba.
That's right.
Well, something to think about because, you know, they're going to start calling this thing Hurricane 2 or Katrina 2.
And the Democrat, the Drive My Media has successfully made natural disasters Republican issues, as though we're responsible for them and we don't care who gets hurt in them and so forth.
And people are watching that.
Governor, thanks again for your time, and I'll speak to you soon.
Look forward to it, Rush.
Thanks.
Governor Mike Huckabee in New York.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
I can't find it.
I know I've got it in here.
I've got five stacks today, and it's one of these stacks.
Bill Clinton referred to Obama as just a Chicago thug somewhere.
And I don't have any audio of it, but I've got to quote some here in one of these stacks.
I'll find the reason I bring this up.
As you know, this outfit, this 527 and the millionaire donor from Texas that are running ads on Obama and William Ayers.
And by the way, we've got a picture here of Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist, standing on the American flag in a recent photo, in the recent years, as an adult.
And of course, Obama's specious defense is that Ayers was doing all that garbage when Obama was just eight years old.
And of course, we nuked that yesterday because Ayers has not apologized.
And the idea that Obama's 35, 40, whatever he is, a 47, and knows what Ayers did, and Ayers hasn't apologized for it, Obama, they know they're in a ringer on this one because this ad specifically and very well nails the relationship of Obama to this unrepentant terrorist who wanted to blow up the Pentagon and the Capitol building and so forth,
much like the Al-Qaeda people wanted to blow up the Capitol building in 2001.
So the Obama people have fired off a letter to the Justice Department demanding that the primary donor to this 527, the Texas millionaire, be prosecuted.
Be prosecuted.
It would be no different than if we started asking the Justice Department to prosecute George Soros.
But the thing, and by the way, that group has now fired back and they have sent a response letter to the Justice Department basically nuking the whole effort.
But the Chicago thug comment, the reason why this is relevant is because Obama, his history in Chicago politics, has not been to level the playing field.
It has not been a fair fight among honorable opponents.
The Obama way has been to clear the playing field, to get rid of opponents, to wipe them out, which he did to get elected the first couple times to state office.
I mean, he successfully found ways, I think, to disqualify three different opponents and maybe four.
And the reason this is relevant is because we have this image of the soft-spoken, gentle, articulate, anointed, all-knowing Messiah.
And he's just a typical politician.
Like the Clintons, just get rid of anything in your way.
Just destroy whoever's in your way.
Don't defeat them.
Destroy them so they can't come back.
And this is who the guy is.
Clinton told this somebody says it reminds him of a Chicago thug politician.
And the effort here to deal with this ad that Obama doesn't like is a clear indication of who he really is and what this campaign's all about.
And it also illustrates how sensitive an issue William Ayers and Obama's associations are.
Now, get this.
This is from The Hill, Capitol Hill newspaper.
Howard Dean says that Obama will unveil a different message for a different audience in the general election campaign, as opposed to the one he used to capture the Democrat presidential nomination.
A question that I have, how many times does Obama get to change?
So now he's not going to change anything?
Or he is going to change.
Change the message for the general?
What was the message for the primaries?
The message for the primaries was on the Messiah.
Well, there wasn't anything specific.
I'm a Messiah.
People have been debating, you know, when did it start going south for Obama?
And when you try to answer that question, it's okay, if it went south during the trip to Europe and Baghdad and so forth, then why do this outdoor open air in front of 75,000 people speech on Thursday night if you're not trying to recapture what you've lost?
And yet here's Howard Dean, the most foolish chairman of the DNC in my lifetime.
And that's saying some, given some of the nut jobs that Clinton's put in there.
But if he's going to do this giant show with this Greek temple, Greek temples housed gods, ladies and gentlemen, this is not an happenstance choice of a set.
So if he's going to do this, isn't he not trying to recapture what he lost in the primaries?
Isn't he not trying to recapture this whole Messiah business?
Are we going to get people fainting in the crowd?
Are we going to have, well, that's what he's lost.
And if you've got to recapture something, it's really, you've got to recapture what you've lost, right?
Well, I know the moment is over.
You can't go back because the illusion has been busted.
The magic act, we learned the trick.
So we're not going to be fooled by it anymore.
So his, I don't know what he can do now.
It starts getting specific.
He's going to, he's in a world of hurt here.
He's in a world of hurt.
Pelosi telling Democrats, hey, don't worry, these polls are underestimating.
Nancy, these polls are overestimating Obama.
And if anybody wants to know when it started going south for Barack Obama, it's called Operation Chaos, Ohio and Texas.
Thank you, and we'll be back.
Yeah, here it is.
It's in a politico story by John Harris that was filed yesterday.
And the relevant paragraph is, Bill Clinton believes the Democrat nominee, far from practicing a unifying transformational brand of politics, has the political instincts of a Chicago thug, quote unquote, said one longtime associate of Clinton.
Clinton has told people Obama allowed surrogates to try to suppress Hispanic turnout in Nevada caucuses and played a race card in reverse against the Clintons in South Carolina and in other states.
That did happen.
I mean, it was long overdue.
It was well deserved having the race card placed in reverse or used in reserve, thrown in reverse.
But nevertheless, this is what Clinton actually thinks of Obama.
And well, it is.
It really is.
It's like a mob war.
It really is.
Clintons are a mob.
Dan, and so is Obama.
Nobody comes out of Chicago politics, is what Obama's trying to portray himself to be.
Anyway, people have been waiting patiently here on the phones.
Tony in Bremerton, Washington, thank you for waiting, and you're next.
Hey, Rush, longtime listener and all that good stuff.
Love your show.
Look, the other day, last night, I was switching through the channels.
I was on the All Barack channel, switched over to the Nothing But Barack channel, kind of slid by the, you know, all the other good, good Barack channels.
And I got to CNN, and old Charles Barkley was on the air.
And, you know, he's talking.
I like Charles Barkley, so I'm listening to what he says.
He's got to make sure to tell everybody he's an independent, right?
But at the same time, he's spouting the same old, played-out, old-time, I am so sick and tired of it, Democratic alliance.
He's like, well, you know, if I ever run for governor of Alabama, well, I would definitely run as a Democrat because you know the Democrats care about poor people.
And the Republicans, you know what?
I'm like, is this guy for real?
No, no.
Charles Barkley, if he runs for governor, is going to do it in Alabama.
Charles Barkley knows that black Republicans get savaged like Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams.
He won't have a chance with the Democrat Party if he really wants to get elected.
You also are making a huge error and a vast, vast over-assumption of the IQ of Chuck.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
Thanks very much.
Here is Doug in Columbia, South Carolina.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Ditto's Rush.
Thank you.
You bet.
During the last election, when the Republicans lost a lot of ground, I didn't seem to, that you or anybody else got the sense that that was coming.
And I'm wondering during this McCain presidential election that's coming up, what makes you think this is so different?
Well, no, no, wait a minute.
You're talking about the 06 midterm congressional elections?
Yes.
Well, I thought we were in trouble there.
Republicans in Congress had abandoned conservative principles, spending out the wazoo.
The president was.
Sure, you alluded to it, but you didn't play it up, which is good.
I wouldn't expect you to.
Well, but then we had Mark Foley, you know, and then we had that one.
That was it.
With Mark Foley, we lost the House.
We had Macaca, and we lost the Senate.
But what I'm talking about here in this coming presidential election is the opportunity.
What I have come to realize is that there's no lock here for the Democrats.
It's not a juggernaut.
It's not just a matter of letting the time go by and then inaugurate Obama.
That Obama campaign right now is in disarray.
It's falling apart.
That party is not unified.
Everything that we have been told about Obama has been proven false because he can't even unify his own friends.
He can't unify his own party.
He can't even organize his own convention.
He didn't even have control of this convention.
And yet he's going to make Ahmadinejad and all these world leaders become our best friends just with the power of his personality.
That to me presents, and plus their stand with Pelosi now on abortion getting that up the way it has Obama's foot in his mouth on that, and their unwillingness to help take steps to create a greater supply of energy produced in the United States.
They're sitting ducks if it is campaigned against in the right way.
When I see the drive-bys do what they do, and when I hear a lot of Democrats talk locally here, I wonder, I agree with everything you said, but to a lot of people, what relevance does it have?
They're going to do what they want to do anyway.
What relevance does what have?
The disarray that the Obama campaign is in and everything, and the holes that we see in it, others don't seem to see or don't have any regard for it if they do see it.
A lot of people.
Well, remember, 50% of the people don't vote.
That's a good thing.
So it depends on if you're talking to voters or not.
And then it depends whether you're talking to likely voters versus registered voters.
There's a whole bunch of different people you can talk to for anecdotal evidence.
See, you're kind of making my point in a way.
And I mentioned this yesterday.
Conservatives and Republicans for some time are just oriented toward pessimism.
We just are.
We're oriented toward pessimism, defeatism, not because we don't have confidence in ourselves.
It's that the people that we invest in always abandon us or fail to practice in office what they promise when they campaign.
And we have this, we were in the minority in the House of Representatives for 40 years.
So all of a sudden we won it.
But it was sort of like a person who's been vastly overweight all his life, loses the weight, still feels fat for six months psychologically.
We still were losers in our minds.
We were in the minority, even when we were in the majority.
We didn't know how to do it.
And of course, the drive-bys treated us like the minority, even when we were the majority, because they resented us being there.
So I think it's a thing that we have worked very hard on to defeat this pessimism and to think that we're up against a juggernaut that can't lose, that doesn't ever make mistakes.
And so I would encourage you not to be pessimistic about this.
This is a golden opportunity here in the McCain campaign.
I have to give them this.
They are coming back fast and furious with some great ads, with humor, using the Democrats.
It's almost like I were putting the ads together myself, using the Democrats' own words to laugh at Obama and to make points.
The idea that Obama is not who he says he is.
You said you can't run into any people that seem to follow this.
Well, he's losing ground in presidential tracking polls, two different tracking polls, since his convention started.
He didn't get a bump out of Biden.
He's not getting a bump out of the convention.
He's not even control his own convention.
You trust me on this.
People are starting to pay attention now.
I'm not saying that it's in the bag.
I'm saying we have a golden opportunity.
And I also am saying that the conventional wisdom is that this is a Democrat romp here.
This is the Democrats year of the 20th century and 21st century combined.
And I don't see it.
Just don't see it.
I always oppose conventional wisdom on principle because conventional wisdom is nothing more than a bunch of people conforming.
Who needs that?
Blake in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
You, sir, are next.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
I have another reason for us to be optimistic about this election season.
What's that?
I was watching the convention last night, and one thing I heard him say a couple of times was, you show me a good loser, and I'll show you someone that's always a loser.
And I mean, I'm listening to this, and I'm thinking, well, you know, that doesn't sound very unified.
And I'll tell you the reason.
What it is, is identity politics has backfired against the Democrats.
That's right.
Their policies, if they last long enough, will always come back and bite them.
That's right.
Because right now they have two candidates that are pretty much on the issue is carving copies of each other.
So you have, you know, two identities, the black woman, I'm sorry, the white woman and the black man.
And that boils down to pretty much almost a religion where you choose your faith and then you're just stuck on that because you have no substantive reason to change what you believe.
Yep, that is, that's that sums them up.
Identity politics is a good way to describe the Democrats, identity victim politics.
And the reason they do this, it's intrinsically who they are.
But never forget, folks, they can't be honest about their message.
They just cannot be honest about it.
So everything has to be masked, camouflaged, and packaged as something that it isn't.
The latest example is Michelle Obama.
That's not who the woman is.
She is not Jude and Cleaver raising those two little girls, staying at home every day.
She works.
She's on leave from a hospital job, University of Chicago Hospital, $310,000 a year.
She's from Harvard and Princeton.
But she had to throw all that away in that speech.
Because Democrats think, Michelle, you can't go out and be who you are because the American people won't like you.
And Obama, it's much, much the same thing.
So keep that in mind, and you'll make a lot of ground.
You'll go a long way to understanding what it is that Democrats are trying to do.
This is why it's important, folks, to keep hammering the point that this Democrat ticket, you put Biden on it, you've got Obama.
These are two extreme leftists.
And one of them is radical.
And that's Obama.
His associations are with radicals, anti-American, well, hate America radicals.
They were his mentors.
They still are close friends.
This is a radical, radical leftist.
And Biden's voting record is just as leftist as Obama is.
There is nothing new.
There is nothing novel.
There is nothing unique.
They've even gone, they made the same mistake.
Biden is a Northeastern liberal.
Northeastern liberals do not get elected president or vice president.
And even if they try to convince people that he's really from Scranton, Pennsylvania, it's still a Northeast liberal.
We'll be back.
We're just getting started on the EIB network.
You know, I look at this story and I just scratch my head.
They have the Russians.
The Russians are having a big car show.
Their car show in Moscow.
You know, we have car shows.
We have car shows in Detroit.
We have car shows all over the place.
And what are our car shows, though?
Our car shows made up of cars that nobody's ever going to build, really cool-looking cars nobody's ever going to build.
Our car shows have become, here's the latest lawnmower with two seats on it, called a bubble car, the smart car.
The Russians are showing off fuel-guzzling trucks, SUVs.
Those are the vehicles on center stage at the Moscow car show, flaunting the difference, the indifference of Russian buyers to fuel economy and climate change as they project the growing wealth since they conquered Georgia through their cars.
International car makers who premiered bigger and more powerful machines at the semi-annual event this year seem to grasp the prejudice against fuel-saving cars in Russia.
Hell yes, you know, they don't have any environmentalist wackos there.
They're in Siberia.
Look at this.
What are we doing?
We're trying to downsize ourselves out of superpower status.
The American left, in conjunction with the Democrat Party, is moving us in that direction.
Meanwhile, the TRICOMs are building big, and the Russians are building big.
And the Russians are producing their own oil.
And we have to deal with fools like Nancy Pelosi, who wouldn't know a gasoline pump if she saw one, unless it was parked next to an abortion doctor's office.
Brian in Auburn Hills, Michigan.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hey, Rochester Denner, how are you doing?
Very well, sir.
Thank you.
I don't know what's in the water over there at the Arkansas Governor's Mansion, but I believe Governor Huckabee just told you a blatant lie to your face when he was describing what happened at the West Virginia convention.
All but 12 of McCain's delegates went for him, and to say that Ron Paul was this vast force behind Huckabee winning that convention is just preposterous, especially when you see what happened after the fifth year.
You know, I have to admit that my memory was a little foggy on the details, which is why I was going to look it up and refresh myself memory on this after the program ended.
But Romney won on the first ballot.
Yeah, I mean.
And we know that there's something personal between Huckabee and Romney.
And I think he alluded to what it may be, and that is all these attack ads.
They all hated Romney because Romney was early with his own money running a bunch of attack ads on him, and they didn't like it.
But my memory was that you're exactly right, that Huckabee and McCain joined forces to keep McCain in there and Romney out in West Virginia.
And I also believe he was being disingenuous when he said that he has nothing against his religion.
I am not neither Baptist nor Mormon, but I was stationed in the Air Force out in Hill Air Force Base, Utah, back in the late 90s, and I distinctly remember there being a swell of Baptists coming to Salt Lake City, basically just to stage protest and directly combat the Mormon stronghold out there.
So there's definitely something between those two faiths.
And for him to come on and just say, no, no, I have nothing against it.
I believe he's being a little disingenuous there as well.
Well, no, no, no.
Let me be specific about this because I did go look at some Nexus data on Governor Huckabee and the things that he had said.
And he has, in recent months, there are a lot of stories of Huckabee saying, my problem with Mitt Romney is not his religion, it's his record.
Now, you might be presuming or assuming that he's Baptist, Romney's Mormon.
Those two don't mix.
And, you know, in his heart, he's got a problem with the Mormon religion, but he would tell you he never made that the issue.
He may never have made the issue, but I mean, just he's said time and again, I've never had anything.
I just don't think he's being honest with either you or anybody else when he came on your show today.
Well, it's interesting that you say that.
I'm happy for the review, and I'm glad you listened.
Thanks very much, Brian.
Speaking of Auburn Hills, Michigan, Auburn Hills, of course, is the greater detroit metro area.
Get this.
This is from the New York Times and a Michigan governor to hold proceedings that could lead to the ouster of the mayor of Detroit.
This would be Kwame Kilpatrick, an embarrassing governor trying to get rid of an embarrassing mayor.
You people in Michigan, you need to get a clue.
The problem with Michigan is the same thing in Pennsylvania.
The people leaving the state are Republicans, and they're relocating in other parts of the country.
And what's left are welfare state and elderly people.
So Kwame's got to go here.
This Associated Press incomes fall in Michigan, number in poverty rises.
Michigan is our own little Petri dish.
Michigan is the Petri dish where the liberal algae germ grows and grows and grows and multiplies without anybody checking it.
With there being no antibiotic, with there being no medicine, no drug to stop the unchecked geometric proportional expansion of liberalism, you get Michigan.
Michigan, the only state where poverty rose last year, as well as the only one where incomes fell.
Who's running the show?
A lib Democrat, and it's been lib Democrats running that show in the state of Michigan.
Just like New Orleans was a Petri dish for liberalism too before Katrina.
Obama promising a speech tomorrow night with purpose.
No more rhetoric, he says.
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