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August 15, 2008, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24 7 Podcast.
Have you um have you seen these pictures from uh from Hawaii of the Messiah body surfing?
No wonder the guy had to pass on meeting with soldiers in a hospital in Germany and had to be working out like a madman.
He knew he was going on vacation, he'd be sitting out there on a beach in Hawaii, you want to look studly.
My question, though, ladies and gentlemen, you got the Messiah and you got water, and he's body surfing, board surfing.
Why doesn't he just walk on the water?
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Well, the situation in Georgia, uh, ladies and gentlemen, is uh his continues to heat up.
And you got Gorbachev on Larry King Alive last night.
You got Sakashvili on Larry King Live.
Uh the uh we we've now learned that uh Russian soldiers are killing innocent citizens, firing on journalists, and robbing banks.
And I haven't heard Jack Mertha say one thing condemning these Russian soldiers.
Now I remember when Congressman Merth of Pennsylvania uh wanted to try to besmirch and impugn the honor and the integrity of the U.S. military in Iraq on baseless rumors.
Here we have videotape of Russian soldiers robbing banks and shooting journalists and killing citizens, and I haven't heard from uh from Congressman Mertha.
He he's I guess he patiently waiting for all the facts to uh to come in.
By the way, uh I folks, you know me.
I don't like to be a CI told you so, but have you seen the price of oil per barrel today?
112 bucks, it's getting it's he got down to as low as 111.
A point is it's a three-month low.
Down from 150 uh at 148 at one point, and one of the reasons is that the dollar is strengthening.
Another reason is, of course, market forces.
I just I re I remember saying, Mack when that oil price kept jumping like three bucks a day and kept that's like no end in sight.
I said, folks, the market will not be able to support this.
It uh it just won't, and it's it's it's now the price is responding to market forces.
You'll notice that Congress has passed no legislation to change any of this.
They haven't done diddly squat, no politicians' words, no presidential action has had anything to do with this.
It is the market that is working exactly as it will if you just leave it alone.
Now, the uh Secretary of State Connellizer Rice just had a joint press conference with Mikhail Shakasvili and uh and and it was pretty powerful press conference, we're working on audio sound bites of that.
One of the things that Secretary Rice said was that all Russian forces and irregular units with them must leave Georgia immediately.
She said this in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi.
Speaking of a joint press conference with uh Sakash Vili, after he had signed a ceasefire deal, Secretary Rice said with the signing of this accord, all Russian troops and any paramilitary and irregular troops, irregular troops, well let me define irregular troops for you.
These are volunteers, quote unquote.
They're still the Russian Red Army.
They're just in different uniforms, there's supposedly volunteers, but it's the Russian Red Army in there, irregulars, mercenaries, paramilitary, what have you.
Uh Condi says you got to get out?
No, we've signed a Peace Corps.
Now, if you're gonna say that, if you are gonna say to Vladimir Putin and the KGB, okay, Sakashvili signed this thing, you must get out immediately.
If he doesn't get out immediately, then what?
Some of this is troubling to a lot of people.
I would throw myself in that in that contingent because if you're going to start throwing these demands and words around and you're ignored, then what do you do next?
I mean, if you if you're not if this is really the the West and uh and the and the European Union are demonstrating here that there's not much they can do.
You know, when when this business happened in um in 1968, when the Russians went in Czechoslovakia, LBJ was at the Vietnam War going on.
We had a uh we had a presidential election at the time they did it, didn't do anything then either.
So I this this this this is this is there is more going on here than I think people realize.
Uh just because it's half a world away, people think it's uh it's not it's not all of that relevant.
What's funny, and I I know it shouldn't be funny, but it is from the UK Times Online, the headline of the story, Kremlin dusts off Cold War lexicon to make the U.S. the villain in Georgia.
Russians were told over breakfast via their media what really happened in Georgia.
The conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the vice president to stop Obama being elected president of the United States.
This is what Putin's media is telling the Russian citizenry.
It sounds like it's right off the pages of the Daily Coast.
It sounds like it's right out of a kook fringe website on the left in this country.
And by the way, let's not forget Obama's foreign policy advisors are on the same page.
This is Bush's fault, or in the Obama campaign's case, it is McCain's fault.
Let's go back.
The audio soundbite, Tuesday night on hardball, David Schuster talking to Susan Rice, the Messiah's foreign policy advisor, and Schuster says, would the uh would the campaign support imposing economic sanctions on Russia as some Republicans are calling for?
By reviewing all aspects of our bilateral relationship with Russia as Senator Obama has advocated, we'll be able to take account of what steps are appropriate.
But here's the thing, David.
We cannot shoot from the hip.
We cannot act on the basis of ideology or preconceived notions.
When this crisis began, Barack Obama, uh, the administration indeed, and all of our NATO allies took a very measured and reasoned approach because we were dealing with the facts as we knew them.
John McCain shot from the hip, very aggressive, very belligerent statement, and he may or may not have complicated the situation.
Okay, so the Kremlin and the Obama camp are on the same page.
They are blaming Republicans for what the Russians did.
This is, I mean it's it's it's it's masterful.
At the same time, it is mind-boggling to watch this thing.
Uh Obama hacks and his media press secretaries have embraced the Russian spin.
And this Times Online story is just fascinating.
Russians were told over breakfast on the uh main news of Vesti FM, a state radio station, uh, like the government and much of Russia's media has reverted the old habits of Soviet years in which a sinister American hand was held to lie behind every conflict, especially those embarrassing the Moscow.
Modern Russia may be plugged into the internet and the global marketplace, but the battle for world opinion that the Kremlin is replaying uh is an old black and white movie.
From the Times online in the UK, the Obama angle is getting wide play.
It was aired on Wednesday by Sergei Markov, a senior political scientist who is close to Putin.
George Bush's administration is promoting the interest of John McCain, said Dr. Markov, to the Russian people.
Defeated by Obama on all fronts, McCain has one last card to play the creation of a virtual cold war with Russia.
Bush himself did not want a war in the South Ossetia, but his Republican Party didn't leave him any choice.
The Americans were now engineering an armed conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
So the Russian people are being told by Putin's media that we're next preparing a war in Ukraine with Russia, and the Obama people are on the same page, and the Russian media is quoting the Obama people to give the report credibility.
It just amazing to me how often the American left is on the side of our enemies.
It just is incredible.
And I'll tell you something, folks.
When you start using the words of your enemy, uh you are you're in deep trouble.
When you start believing what your enemy believes, you're dead.
When you allow the enemy to use your words to their benefit, you're dead.
In the meantime, the Messiah is nowhere to be found other than on the waves out in Hawaii.
It's almost strategic.
How can Obama be blamed for what's happening in in Georgia if he's out surfing?
And McCain's out giving speeches about this stuff, and so they can point fingers at McCain how he's he's worsening the conflict.
He's in a he's in a big conspiracy with Cheney to get himself elected so that uh Obama won't be.
I gotta take quick timeout, a lot to do on the program today.
The oil price is down.
Uh the oh, this book by Jerome Corsi.
You know, this is fascinating, folks.
Jerome Corsi was also a co-author of one of those books that the Swift Boat vets put out against John Kerry.
So the Obama campaign has now mounted this rapid response website, and the drive-by, it's the incestuousness here.
Media matters will do an analysis of Corsi's book, and then the drive-by's like Jake Tapper and ABC will pick it up and they can start sourcing each other.
And media matters, well, as ABC said, and ABC has media matters, said the political hack news organizations.
What they're doing, they're investigating the background of Jerome Corsey.
And they're trying to discredit Corsi, and they're telling a few lies about some of the assertions.
I've read some of the book, and it's pretty damn good.
It's very interesting.
And there are a lot of endnotes in here that document some of his assertions.
Well, what's fascinating to me is that the drive-bys are spending ten times the amount of energy trying to get who the background on Corsi than they are on Obama.
They have spent no time working on the background of Obama.
It is other people having to come up with the fact that this guy numerous times, three times in Illinois, voted for legislation that would allow doctors and patients to murder babies who survived abortions and were out of the womb.
Radical stuff.
Three times he voted for this.
The people he's hung around with, the training he got from these Sol Olinski neighborhood organizations, the Jeremiah Wright stuff.
I mean, there's plenty for the drive-bys to investigate, just as there was plenty for them to investigate about John Edwards.
But they bought the story.
They loved the story of Edwards, and now they apparently are shocked, and they're they're making the same error with Obama, but they don't care.
They don't care who Obama is.
All they think is he represents something historic that they can nail themselves to, take some credit for it, get rid of Republicans in power.
Doesn't matter how flawed or incompetent or inexperienced Obama is, because the drive-bys every day on the editorial pages and on television will tell Obama how to govern.
Quick timeout, back after this.
Don't go away.
Oh, yeah, they're fit to be tight out there.
I mean, it's funny.
The left is just in conniption fits over some things we've been saying here about Edwards and uh what's her name?
Uh Riley?
Riley Riley Hunter.
Uh it's just it's these people are off, they're unhinged, and they're gonna get even worse if they uh if they lose this presidential election.
Greetings, welcome back, open line Friday.
Ilrushboat to the audio sound bites.
President Bush this morning in Washington on his way to Crawford, Texas.
Russia has damaged its credibility and its relations with the nations of the free world.
Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century.
Only Russia can decide whether it will now put itself back on the path of responsible nations or continue to pursue a policy that promises only confrontation and isolation.
Stop bullying.
I if you're gonna say these things, what are you gonna do to back them up?
I mean, if if because if you say these, like if Rice says you gotta get out of here now, we've signed the accords.
Stop bullying.
Uh Look at we know who Putin is, he's KGB.
Do you think Putin's just gonna say, oh, okay, you want us to stop bullying, fine, we'll stop bullying.
Oh, oh, you want us to leave now simply because you signed a peaceful fine, well, we'll leave.
That's not what Putin's gonna do.
And so we start issuing these demands, and if uh if if they aren't heard or met, we're gonna have to do something.
I'll tell you what, I this economic sanction business is not gonna work, because if if people try to economically sanction Russia, they're just gonna freeze the pipeline and they're gonna they're gonna freeze Western Europe out of energy.
One of these days that we're gonna we're we're gonna find out how how this stuff's gonna be dealt with.
I mean, this is tyranny on the march, and it's happening uh a lot of places around the world, and it's gonna have to be dealt with at some point, just is Gorbachev last night on Larry King Live.
Uh we have it with a translator here.
Gorbachev uh or Larry said, Are are you saying that Georgia started this?
Yes, indeed, there is no doubt about it.
Zimbali was attacked.
Forced by an Armada.
It did not Russia was responding.
What to presa to what happened in Simbali.
But some nine yeah.
There is just no doubt about it.
But you move to I don't know why.
It's happened that it is being presented that Russia invaded Georgia.
This is really disinformation, this is all lies.
Yes, Mikhail Gorbachev, citizen of the world.
Darling of the left now sees fit to to uh cozy up to his old buds in uh in Russia, the old Soviet Union.
Now it is true that Georgia did make a move into South Ossetia last Thursday night, a week ago yesterday, but the uh the fact remains that the Russians were gonna do this at some point no matter what, they had amassed all of this military armor and manpower, and it took a while to do this.
This is uh the Caucasus Mountains again are are not easy to traverse.
It took them quite a while to get everything in position so that when something happened that they could claim was a provocation, they were in place and ready to roll.
If they had not amassed any of these forces anywhere near the region, and the Georgians had still made their little move into South Ossetia on Thursday night, the Russians couldn't have been there in a long time.
This took a long time to set up, and they were going to do this at some point anyway.
And they were gonna they're gonna come up with some excuse where they would they've been provoked.
Uh there's there's there can be little doubt here that what Putin wants to do.
They want to rebuild a Russian Empire.
There's no question.
Not as the old Soviet Union.
They got grander scheme designs than that.
And Putin, people are already calling him the new r new Tsar of Russia, and of course the Tsars preceded uh the the uh the prime ministers, the presidents, the so forth uh back in the old Soviet days.
Larry King then followed up, he said, Well, the foreign minister has asserted that the President of Georgia can no longer be our partner in negotiations.
It'd be better if he went.
Do you want to change a leadership in Georgia?
Sarkash really had misled Europe.
He's misled the United States.
Unless one were to think that it was all an American project and that Sakashvili just implemented it.
This uh was a total surprise as regards the peacekeeping contingent there.
So, she's a person who certainly does not deserve trust.
Sakashvili is a liar, doesn't deserve any trust.
This coming from Mikhail Gorbachev, once and present communist speaking on behalf of once and present communist and KGB chieftain, Vladimir Putin.
So Larry King ever, ever persevering.
Do you fear, Mr. President, the world is moving toward a new Cold War?
This is a big danger.
The United States armed Georgia with sophisticated weapons, aircraft, linebackers.
Land weapons, mountains of weapons were supplied to Georgia.
Weapons budgets, military budgets grow.
When the weapons pile up, it's works one day.
It actually shoots one day.
And this is what happened.
So I think that the signs of a Cold War are present.
There you have it.
Mikhail Segevich Gorbachev basically signaling, yep, there's a Cold War.
And he wouldn't be saying this if he weren't excited about it, and if you weren't thinking that it was actually going to happen.
You know, some people are now saying, you know, we fooled ourselves that the Cold War never actually ended.
The wall came down and there were some democratic reforms in Russia, but then Putin showed up and the KGB started asserting itself.
Larry King said, What's your overall reaction to what Gorbachev had to say?
He said that uh you were the aggressor.
I'm not shocked to hear it from former KGB operatives like Vladimir Putin or his former defense minister, Sergei Ivanov.
Those people come from the Orwellian world where lying is just an instrument of communication.
But I'm profoundly shocked that somebody like Mikhail Gorbachev, for whom I had lots of respect in the past, well, would use his appearance on your show for basically vindicating license deceptions.
This is the man, Mr. Gorbachev, who helped to drive, you know, bring down KGB kingdom.
And he's the one who is you know justifying that KGB, what the KGB people are doing right now in my country.
Shame on you, Mr. Gorbachev, for perpetrating the very regime you helped to defeat and you all fought against as a head of the Soviet Union.
Well, you got Sakashvili now calling him uh KGB.
Is it possible, folks, that Gorbachev always hated what happened when his Soviet Union went away and his presidency went away, and he likes what's happening now.
By the way, it did not take the polls long to agree to an American base with ten interceptor missiles, defense missiles.
They didn't want any part of it.
Just a week ago, just ten days ago, two weeks ago or longer, the Polish government was missiles in here.
That's just gonna provoke people.
And then here comes the move into Georgia by the Russians and the KGB.
And guess what?
Yesterday the Polish government said, bring us those missiles or ten interceptors on an American base, and the Russians are saying this will not go unpunished.
Now, when the Russians have said things will not go unpunished, they have meant it.
They have been signaling that they were going to go into Georgia for a long time, even not just with their words, with their with their military maneuvers.
And they've got leverage.
They've got those pipelines.
They're gonna they they can they can freeze out Europe.
They can they can shut off the flow of uh oil and natural gas, and they've got enough financial reserves to do it for a while.
And it would just take a day or two or three, maybe a week, and it caused utter chaos.
There are things they can do.
This will not go unpunished.
We're gonna go back, ladies and gentlemen, February 26th of this year.
The um program was meet the pre actually was one of the debates, it was a debate in in uh uh Cleveland, and it was moderated by Tim Russert.
And Tim Russert said to Obama, he's forty-two years old.
He's a former law professor.
He is Mr. Putin's campaign manager.
He's gonna be the new president of Russia.
And if he says to the Russian troops, you know what?
Why don't you go help Serbia retake Kosovo?
What does President Obama do if the Russian president tells the troops to go retake Kosovo?
Well, I think that we work with the international community that is also recognized Kosovo.
Uh, and state that that's unacceptable.
Uh but fortunately we have a strong international structure uh you know, anchored in NATO uh to deal with this issue.
We don't have to work in isolation.
Be very clear.
We have recognized the country of Kosovo as as uh an independent sovereign nation, uh, as has Great Britain and many other countries in the region, and I think that uh that carries with it then certain obligations to ensure that they uh are not invaded.
Hey, Messiah, where's where's NATO?
What what's NATO doing here?
Uh, where are our allies?
What's um, you know, just change the question around from uh Russians retaking Kosovo for Serbia to moving into Georgia, and you have you have Obama's answer here.
And some might say even that Obama's language was belligerent himself when he said it's unacceptable.
That's unacceptable.
That's that's that's uh belligerent.
Why that that might have even aggravated tensions back then between the Soviet Union, Russia, and uh and the United States.
So it's interesting to go back.
There's a lot of stuff on the record that Obama has said about such scenarios that uh date back to the campaign and the debates.
And once again, his answer here sounds empty.
It's just vapid.
Well, it's unacceptable, but we have a international structure, you know, NATO, uh deal with this.
We don't have to work in isolation.
Be very clear, we've recognized the country of Kosovo's independent side.
So did we with Georgia.
So I play this uh ladies and gentlemen, just to uh illustrate for you the just the the incompetence and the inexperience and the the the this is the fluff vapid nature of these of these comments.
Let's go to the phones.
People have been waiting patiently, and it is open line Friday will start in Kansas City.
This is Stephanie, great to have you here.
Welcome.
Thank you, Rush.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
I'm a longtime listener and I just love your show.
Thank you.
Um I think that you're right um in almost every way about Russia, but I have to disagree with you when you say that we have no pressure that we can bring to bear uh because the West needs their oil and gas so badly.
I I don't think their reserves uh their money reserves are what you think they are.
I think they're probably overstated, and I think they're spending their pet their petrodollars as soon as they get them in.
And therefore I think that uh they need us more than we need them because oil is the oil is their only export.
Yeah, but all I got.
Wait a second, they they are spending the petrodollar as soon as they come in, but on what?
They're spending it on new weapons, they're spending it on the military that they are deploying now.
And uh what I I'm not saying we don't have any options.
I'm saying if we're gonna talk tough, we better be able to follow up the talk with something, and I don't know.
They're they're thinking we can kick them out of G eight, we could humiliate them, we could just deconstitute the G eight and reconstitute it as the G seven with them out of it.
We can keep them out of the world trade organization.
Well, where the things that we can do, but every it would you not agree that the last thing on anybody's list here is any kind of military action.
I I would agree, but I also don't think that I they may be spending money on their military, but I thought it was really interesting when President Fuck Shvili said this morning that they called up their old age pensioners in Moscow and got them to fly the planes.
And I I wonder where it's got that information, but if they're actually bringing their military people out of retirement to fly the the planes that they have now, that would tell me that their military actually is in horrendous shape.
And actually, I don't know where their dollars are going, but I actually think Russia is is is in a bad way.
I I think that they're the Russian bear is actually just made of paper.
This is interesting you have this opinion.
Uh from what is it derived?
I mean don't don't misunderstand the question, but you sound almost like a scholarly authority, and I want to know if you have such scholarly uh credentials.
Not it's nothing wrong if you don't.
You just sound very assertive, very bright, very intelligent, and very I'm I'm impressed with people who are very certain about what they say.
There's got to be a reason for certitude.
What is yours?
Uh I I I listen to you a lot.
I read the Wall Street Journal, I read the Financial Times, and in reading about Russia, it it I I the billionaires, I think, are the ones the the oil heirs and the other oligarchs in Russia are I think the ones who have benefited the most.
Um I I also have a couple of Russian friends who do who did leave the comp the country admittedly you know, seven to ten years ago.
But from what I understand from then them living there, it it's actually a a rather poor country to live in, and services are not good.
Well, it always was.
The infrastructure's the infrastructure is extremely, you know, decrept.
And I I just think that they rely very heavily on the petrodollars just to keep their country running on a day-to-day basis.
And I don't think that they have a lot of reserves, which is why I felt that we could bring more pressure to bear, even if we did something like say that the West still takes their oil, but they we say something, and maybe this is too extreme, but say something like, Well, we're going to put the payments that we owe you in reserve, and we're not actually um going to be submitting them right now.
You know, we're we're gonna we're gonna hold them until we feel like they're gonna cooperate.
I know people are people are talking about about economic sanctions.
All I'm saying here th there's a lot of bluster here, there's no question about it, but the Russians are putting action behind the bluster.
And nobody else is.
And so I look at the back in the days of the Soviet Union, it was always a decrepit, because always a third world country with a first-rate military.
And there's no question that they're trying to re-establish that that Putin is in the same way.
They they do have a lot of really brand new rich Russians.
I mean, one of them just bought a house where I live uh up the road for 95 million dollars from Donald Trump.
And he may never even live in it.
They're just they're invading us here, Sterdley.
You know, they're I mean, they're they're they're they're right uh they're right here across the bridge.
They haven't closed yet.
Well, I think they did close.
Uh they're buying some some Russian, I think just bought the most expensive house in the world, 750 million dollars uh the Côte d'Izur or somewhere in the center of the yeah.
That was yeah, it was in it was in France.
Yeah, I saw that in the paper.
750 million dollars for a house.
Yeah, and I I think that those people have basically raped that country of the wealth that maybe should belong to Russia, and that's uh so just it's it's I I am in no way a scholar.
It's I just you know, it's just in reading it it and and in having the few friends that I have that came, you know, left there uh albeit almost a decade ago.
I just think that we don't really know what it's like there unless you travel there and you're in there, and I I I still think I think we have we could bring some pressure to bear.
So I would just disagreeing with your one statement, which is that we can't bring any pressure to bear against them economically.
And I just was saying, you know, I think maybe we could because I think really they need those petrodollars desperately because it's the only thing they've got to sell the rest of the world.
True, but let's you know, you're giving them a little credit here that you would assign to rational people.
And what what Putin and the uh and the boys are doing here with Georgia is rational only if you look at their definition of it.
There's nothing rational about going into a neighboring country and conquering it and taking it with a country that doesn't threaten you.
Absolutely.
So but yet they do it.
Why?
Well, their rationale is we never thought this country should have been busted up, and we're gonna re we're gonna rebuild our empire, and we don't care if we rob banks in a process and kill citizens and fire on journalists, we're gonna do it, and we're gonna scare the hell out of everybody, and we're gonna make them think they're next, and we're gonna use these bullying tactics to bluff our way through this if you're right that they don't have the money to keep this up.
But if they see, I think that they're it with with it to them it would be totally rational to shut off the energy pipelines to the West just to show what kind of I mean incredible harm, damage they could cause to uh uh nations in Western Europe all the way through the the European Union, and I think that they'd sit there, they would gladly sacrifice a week's worth of petrodollars to demonstrate their power, because that's what this is all about.
This is all about flexing their muscle while the rest of the world's distracted and fighting back with words.
Well, you're right, because obviously they don't care if their own people suffer.
I I think you can say that easily.
The Russian people suffer, I don't think the Russian government cares.
And you're right, they did do it.
What was it last year to Ukraine where they shut off the gas pipeline that went through the Ukraine because they were, you know, again, using bluster and and you know, they weren't.
Exactly right, exactly right.
All right, well, look, Stephanie, I'm uh it's been fascinating to talk to you.
I'm glad you called.
I hope you'll uh try to get through again uh some future occasion.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
You bet.
Quick timeout, folks.
Open line Friday continues after this.
Is that it for the name shots of four names shouts in that jingle?
I've been patient, patiently.
Well, I like it too, but I got things to say here.
Audience has things to hear.
I can say my name as well as it can be shouted in a jingle.
Anyway, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Well, we're gonna talk about this as the uh program unfolds, but uh this this Georgian situation plus uh what is uh is happening in in some other international areas.
There's something going on with the McCain campaign here as the as a selection process dwindles down for the vice presidency.
Uh and and it's it looks like McCain advisors are laying the groundwork for either picking a Democrat, Joe Lieberman, or a pro-choice Republican to further McCain's move to the center and the left uh to pick up disaffected Obama voters.
Because there is just they're just assuming that those of us in the base will show up and solidify simply in fact they think that's already happened, but they think we'll just show up and solidify because of our just fear and uh unacceptable attitudes toward Barack Obama, the Lord Messiah most merciful.
And I I I think they're misjudging.
If they think they can put a pro-choice candidate on the ticket, McCain's telling us that he's going to go out and make sure that he picks the right kind of judges for the Supreme Court.
Well, now one of the definitions that the conservative base has for the right kind of judge on the Supreme Court is not somebody who's going to vote to affirm Roe v.
Wade if it ever comes up.
So this we we're going to start doubting all kinds of things again.
If if he's going to go with a pro-choice, or even a Democrat who is good on the war but has just as liberal the voting record as Chris Dodd does, if he's going to go one of those two routes, then it's going to be reasonable for us to start doubting what he has said and promised about the right kind of judges on the courts.
So this this the fur is going to fly on this one.
The last time it flew was when somebody suggested that the that McCain might put a Democrat on a ticket.
That just you know, it's one thing for Democrats for our enemies to say, hey, why don't you pick one of us on your ticket?
It's another thing for our side to put the spear in our own heart.
Well, anyway, back to the phones we go.
This is Jeremy in Los Angeles.
I'm glad you called, sir.
You are on open line Friday.
Hey, man.
I uh I called and disagree with you, but not to defend uh Vladimir Putin or to come off as some calmie lefty.
But I think there's some things that are missing here.
One, uh less than a month ago, we had a thousand special forces on the ground.
That's been documented in mainstream press.
The Israelis had their special forces on the ground.
We have been funding and training and arming Georgia.
There's no way Georgia made this move without approval from Washington.
And so we know Putin and Bush were out of the country.
It happened when all eyes were on Beijing.
There's no doubt that there was an entity in Washington that gave some type of green light.
They would not be.
Wait a second.
Let me take these things in order.
All right.
Georgia's an ally.
What is wrong when that when everybody knows that they are in the crosshairs of Russia?
Right.
They made a move into a region, though, that was a Russian.
No, no, no, no.
I want to stick in order.
I'm gonna get to that in a minute.
I don't want to stick to the why, what what is what is wrong, and what's even provocative about training the Georgian military.
They are an ally.
What's wrong with the Israelis being there and doing the same thing?
We train the militaries in a lot of countries.
Well, I think what's interesting though is that we had that much personnel on the ground.
I mean, nobody's asked.
There's been re been reports out of European media that that they're that soldiers uh have been on the ground.
They've seen, for example, there was a lady who was being interviewed, she said she saw a black soldier in a black uniform.
Now there's not too many black folks over in Eastern Europe.
I would like to know have we lost anybody?
Did we lose any of our special forces there?
Or did Dine Corps or Blackwater have any of their people there?
What are you doing here?
Come on.
You don't want to come off as a commie lefty and you just managed to do it in three words.
No, it's about telling the whole story.
It is people are trying the whole story is happening right before your very eyes.
And it's just typical of you guys to sit here.
But I'm getting irritated again.
I started this day irritated, and I'm starting to get irritated again.
It's one thing for you guys to have your little conspiratorial beliefs about black water and uh some sin being committed with a thousand U.S. troops training an allied military.
But to then go on and start down the path that our we caused it, that it's our fault, and that somebody in Washington had to authorize it when nobody you're just speculating that, as though it's certitude.
We don't know that this was authorized by anybody, and we don't even know that what happened was significant enough to call the Russians were there anyway.
Why am I not being listened to on it?
The Russians, it took months to get that attack force in position.
This was gonna happen at some point.
The Russians are who they are, and there's no moral equivalence.
We're not the Russians.
You guys are more like the Russians than this is just Yes, I was irritated because I got in here today.
First place where I tried to print checks last night at home and the printer blew up on me.
It just stopped right in the middle of print job.
So I went upstairs, which is a lot of steps in my house.
I went upstairs to the secondary Printer and it blew up.
I started swearing.
I kicked the hell out of one of the printers.
I got a new one delivered today.
Had to come in and print the stuff today.
The printers here blew up.
And then the whole computer crashed.
So what's going on?
I'm being sabotaged here.
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Hey, according to the Associated Press, uh the Russians have threatened a nuclear attack on uh Poland.
And the AP seems to be very happy about it, by the way.
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