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July 25, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 25, 2008, Friday, Hour #3
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Greetings, my friends, and welcome back.
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Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
One hour to go when we go to the phones.
The content is yours.
You can ask anything you want.
You can bring up any subject to talk about whatever you want to talk about.
Make comments, ask questions, feel free.
The one day of the week you can do this this Friday, Monday through Thursday.
We only talk about things that interest me because I don't want to sit here and be bored.
But I will fake it on Friday.
Very interesting observation from 19-year-old Chelsea in Hollywood.
She's watching this Obama show, the disciples and the uh and the and and the Messiah.
She says, I feel like I'm watching Brittany Spears.
So what does she mean by that?
Not that Obama's Brittany Spears, but that it's just a spectator event.
It's it's it's uh media just forcing things on people.
I got a couple emails for people why rush, why why is Sarkozy going so out of his way to be nice and greet Obama?
Very simple.
The media circus.
He's a politician, stagecraft.
He'll gladly get all this attention and accept all this attention that the worldwide media is focusing on him.
What with Obama in town?
Doesn't mean anything.
Uh far if he refused to see him, he can't do that.
So um it all it all makes sense.
None of this is anything to worry about, ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, new from uh white comedian Paul Shanklin, the drive-by media actually singing the chorus in this Diddy.
I uh uh we uh and uh uh now uh uh right now.
And and I identify if if uh you want to uh uh that that's a bunch.
Um so so let me tick these off.
Um it is true that uh uh uh uh what uh uh uh and uh uh in a Iraq uh uh are seen as uh uh and so uh uh uh by the way.
I thought, ladies and gentlemen, that Barack Obama just said moments ago in a joint press conference with Nicholas Sarkozy that uh we only have one president at a time, and there's only only one president that makes foreign policy.
And yet, from the Associated Press, Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama said Friday that Iran should promptly accept an international call to freeze its uranium enrichment program, which uh some nations see as a potential step toward obtaining nuclear weapons and not wait for the next U.S. president.
Uh the Messiah met with French president Nicholas Sarkozy in Paris, where they discussed Iran, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, climate change, and other issues.
And I I thought I thought Barack said that we only have one president at a time.
Why is he telling Iran what to do?
In a joint appearance with Nicholas Sarkozy.
An amazing thing happened on Hardball last night.
Heather Wilson, Republican Congress babe from New Mexico, was a guest on Chris Matthew's show.
The uh other guest was Robert Wexler, the uh representative of Congress from uh now and Boca, although he didn't have a house there.
We just learned this.
He lives in Maryland, his uh official residence is his mother's house, where they don't allow kids.
He's got three kids.
Nevertheless, that's not the story.
They were on discussing the Obama speech in Germany.
And Chris Matthews said, Congresswoman Heather Wilson, what do you make of those remarks by Barack Obama today?
Saying something like there's a wall between the United States and Europe.
I mean, we we've been allies with with Western Germany and with Germany as a whole since the end of the Second World War.
NATO is one of our strongest alliances.
And so what's he talking about?
What's the substance behind that?
Europeans hate George Bush.
To reassure Americans that the mistakes that he made with respect to Middle East policy because of his experience, maybe they shouldn't be concerned about that.
He went there because of his inexperience to try to give himself some kind of patina of credibility.
Matthews, are you saying United States has a good relationship with Europe in the last seven years?
Absolutely, yes.
The U.S. relationship with NATO, with the UK, our relationship with the United Kingdom has never been closer, and that's been spurred by common mutual interests.
I used to serve at NATO when there were sixteen NATO countries, and we were facing the former Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact.
We have very close relationships with our Western European allies, and I think that continues with Angela Merkel or with President Sakorsi or with the Brits.
I think in very close relationships.
Matthews says, Congressman Wexler, do you agree with that?
The Europeans have liked the Bush administration.
I haven't, I haven't seen that love affair at all.
Transatlantic relations have suffered greatly under the Bush administration.
And what does that mean to Americans?
What it means is we were not effective in engaging a coalition of countries to participate with us in the Iraq War.
The tragedy of the Iraq War.
This president, unfortunately, still fighting and dying alone.
Yes, and I applaud the anapsification.
Excuse me.
And you know him.
Yes, this president has been ineffective in convincing our allies to send more troops to Afghanistan.
The fight we need to win.
But let me tell you where Senator Obama seemed by a thousand troops this year, Robert.
Where Senator Obama is so effective.
Did he convince Angela Morella today to the first time?
Let me tell you something.
I've never heard anybody shut up Bob Wexler, but she did, and she did so brilliantly and effectively.
This see, this is this is another one of these media narratives.
The Europeans hate us.
Tony Blair and George Bush were inseparable.
Sarkozy and Merkel, big time on board.
This this is just a continuation of the myth.
And Heather Wilson is very reserved here and she's very on point.
Germans increasing, increasing by a thousand troops this year, Robert.
Uh, if Barack is so effective, did he convince Angela Merkel today to reduce the restrictions on the German forces there?
Finally, Matthews says to Wilson, but the French, the Germans, so many other countries in Europe, they did not support our war in Iraq.
We have British troops with us in Iraq.
There's no question that where there were differences on policy, but to say that somehow there is a wall in NATO that's running somewhere down the Atlantic shows Senator Obama's inexperience when it comes to understanding where we are.
And you see that on a number of other things.
I mean, look at his platform.
He has these kind of message tested, poll-tested things like we should uh Barack Obama will make sure that we take he'll negotiate with the Russians to take our ICBMs off hair trigger alert.
It's a great idea.
It was done twenty years ago.
He seems to be unaware of American history.
And that's inexperience, which causes people some real concern about whether he's ready for the Oval Office.
I guarantee you, Matthews is blindsided because he's got this notion the Europeans hate us.
Heather Wilson, no, no, no, you got you you've never been right about this.
The French may not have been our friends early on in this.
But um I guar I Matthews sitting here, it's it's kind of like I can imagine what went through his head when he's hearing all this.
Remember after um Vaslav Klaus, or Havel.
Vaslav Klaus came to the National Press Club and gave his dissertation on global warming.
And one Williams said, I've never heard anything like this.
I've I've never I I I never I didn't know that.
I I've never questioned the environmental movement.
I've never heard this.
It was eyes were opened.
Even though it's all over the place, the environmental movement gets questioned.
So same thing here with Matthews.
Europeans hate us.
That's it, period.
Wexler, yeah, uh, didn't help us out.
Bush didn't uh coalition, Bush screwed up, Bush is horrible.
Heather Wilson says it's not true.
It's not true, and here's the reason why, and here are the facts.
Fascinating.
Quick timeout, we'll be back.
Your phone calls next is open line Friday rolls right on.
All right, we have two stories.
Three.
Three stories in the drive-by media, one in CNN, one on the Associated Press, and one in the German magazine Build.
And in all three stories, excited citizens just rave about the fact that Barack Obama does not sweat.
The one in Build magazine was a woman who ended up in the gym at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel with Obama yesterday.
Her account is written up in build, and she describes how he lifts all these heavyweights.
And he lifts and he lifts, and he is so strong, and he didn't break a sweat.
Of course not, my friends.
He is the Messiah.
And then in CNN's story, Obama wins hearts but not minds in Berlin.
We talked about this story earlier where, you know, the audience, they didn't they didn't faint, they didn't go nuts over this uh speech like everybody expected.
But here is a woman named Judith.
Quickly I ask, Mr. Obama, could I take a photo?
Of course he answers.
Before asking my name and coming over to stand next to me.
My name's Judith, I reply, I'm Barack Obama.
He says, Nice to meet you.
He puts his arm across my shoulder.
I put my arm around his hip.
Wow, he didn't even sweat.
What a man.
And then the AP story.
Sometimes it's hard to tell a Barack Obama's running for president for Mr. Universe.
A distinct lack of visible sweat on the Illinois Senator triggered questions about whether he was actually exercising or using the gym visits as cover for conducting vice presidential vetting or interviews.
Those are the first doesn't sweat, folks.
I'm not surprised he's a messiah.
Here is Brian in Battle Creek, Michigan.
Brian, thank you for waiting and welcome to the EIB network.
Yeah, thank you.
Dorothy Hitzer.
Yeah.
Megadiddos.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
Uh I got two things.
First, uh, I had to go to your website to uh find a phone number, and now I finally understand uh when you say the Messiah what you actually are getting at with the uh the odds that he has.
Very clever, very clever.
Um the other thing is I I was wondering if you had a chance to see the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight.
I have not yet seen the Batman movie, and this studio uh did not send me an advanced copy because it didn't have to.
They knew that with Heat Ledger having died that they were going to be a worldwide hit here.
Yes, just the you know, the rubber neck curiosity crowd.
Uh-huh.
Well, I had a uh chance to see it last night, and uh I was noticing throughout the movie, uh, at least with the the dialogue between the characters, there seemed to be a lot of uh metaphors that you could kind of throw in there about the war in Iraq.
Let me ask you a question.
You know, I'm glad you called on this.
Uh Brian, because I need to ask you a question about something.
Did you find that the overall theme and values?
Good and evil so forth, were conservative in this movie.
Uh yeah.
Uh and and as it turned out, actually, I thought uh what they're saying, they're kind of talking about Batman and how the people didn't like him, but he was doing the right thing.
Exactly, and how hard it is when you're the lone guy trying to do the right thing, because doing the right thing is hard.
Everybody wants to go the easy way, and he stuck to it despite the fact everybody hated his guts.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I, you know, kind of the the uh the whole script itself.
I I you know like it's kind of a stretch if I say that's one big metaphor for the whole situation going on.
But at least the dialogue, man, it really, and I'm not a guy who watches movies and say, Oh, yeah, look at that metaphor, you know, that sort of thing.
But it's just so this this stuff sort of leapt out at you.
Yeah, it totally did.
You're not a guy digging deep into movie dialogue, but this stuff you couldn't help but notice.
Yeah, couldn't help it.
Actually, my buddy who barely even knows who the governor of Michigan has actually said something to me about it too, which I thought was surprising.
So interesting.
I thought it was interesting, say the least.
Your buddy who barely knows the hot governor of Michigan, did you say?
Yeah, yeah.
In in some people's minds, not mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, those things are always subjective.
Yeah, I have a tough time thinking Canadians are hot.
Yeah, I hear that.
Uh I know what you're talking about.
It's interesting that you called about this, Barry, because there is in the Wall Street Journal today an opinion piece by Andrew Claven.
Andrew Clavin is a man who has won two Edgar Awards from the Mystery Writers of America.
He has a new novel called Empire of Lies.
It's about an ordinary man confronting the war on terror.
It is a fascinating piece.
And the headline of uh Mr. Claven's piece, I it might be Clavin, but I'm sure he pronounced it Claven.
Uh, what Bush and Batman have in common.
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence and fear.
A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the racing clouds.
Oh, wait a minute, it's not a bat, actually.
In fact, when you trace the outline with your finger, looks more like a W. There seems to me no question that the Batman film The Dark Knight, currently breaking every box office record in history, is at some level a pian of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war.
And here's Brian from Battle Creek, Michigan, who got it and wanted to call and tell us about it.
Like W, Batman's villivide.
He is despised for confronting terrorists in the only terms they understand.
Like W, Batman sometimes has to push the boundaries of civil rights to deal with an emergency, certain he will reestablish those boundaries when the emergency is passed.
And like W, Batman understands that there's no moral equivalence between a free society and a criminal sect bent on destruction.
The former must be cherished even in its moments of folly.
The latter must be hounded to the gates of hell.
The Dark Knight, then is a conservative movie about the war on terror.
And like another such film, last year's three hundred, the Dark Knight is making a fortune depicting the values and necessities that the Bush administration can't seem to articulate for beans.
Conversely, time after time left wing films about the war on terror, like In the Valley of Ela, Rendition, Redacted, which preach moral equivalence and advocate surrender, that disrespect the military and their mission, that seem unable to distinguish a difference between American and Islamo fascism have bombed more spectacularly than Operation Shock and Awe.
All these left wing films bomb.
Openly left wing films about the war in Iraq bomb.
Why is it?
asks Andrew Clavin.
This is a brilliant question.
Why is it then that left wingers feel free to make their films direct and realistic?
Whereas Hollywood conservatives have to put on a mask in order to speak what they know to be the truth.
Why is it indeed that the conservative values that power our defense, values like morality, faith, self-sacrifice, and the nobility of fighting for the right?
Why do they only appear in fantasy or comic inspired films like 300, Lord of the Rings, Narnia, Spider-Man III, and Now the Dark Knight?
The moment filmmakers take on the problem of Islamic terrorism in realistic films, suddenly those values vanish.
The good guys become indistinguishable from the bad guys, we end up denigrating the very heroes who defend us.
Why should this be?
And he endeavors in the rest of the piece to answer the question.
I'll share it with you when we get back.
Don't go away.
How are you?
Welcome back.
This is really a great piece by Andrew Clave in the Wall Street Journal, talking about the overwhelmingly conservative values that are throughout the Dark Night, the Batman movie.
I haven't seen it, so I'm relying on his review.
But he raises a great question.
The left can go out there and make all their trash, the military trash the war movies, they do it right out in the open.
All of these movies bomb, by the way, The Dark Knight, 300, Passion of the Christ, any number of these movies that have traditional values, right and wrong is clearly defined, bad guys always lose, there's nothing moral equivalence between evil and good.
And yet those movies have to be presented as cartoons with the mask over the hero, as in Batman.
And he why is this, he says.
Why should this be?
Well, the answers to these questions seem to me to be embedded in the story of the dark night itself.
Doing what's right is hard.
Speaking the truth is dangerous.
Many have been abhorred for it.
Some people have been killed.
One has even been crucified.
Leftists frequently complain that right wing morality is simplistic.
Morality is relative, they say, nuanced, complex.
They're wrong, of course, even on their own terms.
Left and right, all Americans know that freedom is better than slavery, that love is better than hate, kindness better than Cruelty, tolerance better than bigotry.
We don't always know how we know these things, and yet mysteriously we know them nonetheless.
The true complexity arises when we must defend these values in a world that does not universally embrace them.
When we reach the place where we must be intolerant in order to defend tolerance.
We must be unkind in order to defend kindness.
Sometimes we must be hateful in order to defend what we love.
Now that's a powerful, powerful paragraph.
I will guarantee you that if there are leftists in this audience, they are having a cow right now.
Because you see, we have to be intolerant sometimes, must be intolerant in order to defend tolerance.
Unkind in order to defend kindness.
Think of this whole business of torture.
That the left has attempted to convince the world that we are profoundly egregiously guilty of.
That torture is the norm in the way we treat prisoners of war.
Of course it's not.
Waterboarding.
We got everything we needed to know out of Khalid Sheikh Muhammad about what happened in 9-11.
We are trying to defend what's right.
We're defending freedom, we're defending liberty.
We're defending greatness.
Sometimes you have to do what it takes to get what you need.
But if you have the underlying moral foundation, you always return to the values that define you.
Even if you have to abandon them to secure what you need for your own preservation, the left will not do that.
They will succumb, they will give up their freedom, they will give up their security, they will give up a lot of these things in order to not violate these precious concepts such as intolerance, bigotry, except where the right wing is concerned, then they will be filled with bigotry.
They will be filled with intolerance, i.e., demanding the fairness doctrine on talk radio.
They will be filled with unkindness toward people that say things they don't like.
So when heroes arise who take on those do difficult duties themselves, it is tempting for the rest of us to turn our backs on them, to vilify them in order to protect our own appearance of righteousness.
We prosecute, we execrate the violent soldier or the cruel intelligence interrogator in order to parade ourselves as paragons of the peaceful and the peaceful values that they preserve.
As Gary Oldman's commissioner Gordon says of the hated and hunted Batman, he has to run away because we've chased him.
There's real moral complexity.
And when our artistic community is ready to show that sometimes men must kill in order to preserve life, that sometimes they must violate their values in order to maintain them, and that while movie stars may strut in the bright light of our adulation for pretending to be heroes, true heroes often must slink in the shadows, slump shouldered and despised.
Then and only then will we be able to pay President Bush his due and make good and true films about the war on terror.
Perhaps that's when Hollywood conservatives will be able to take off their masks and speak plainly in the light of day.
Stop meeting in attics and private retreats, lest their meeting be discovered.
Excellent piece by Andrew Claven in the Wall Street Journal.
I share a little as an addendum to this, I'll share a little conversation I had last night.
I got I got a great series of questions from dear, dear, dear, dear dear person close to me.
You know, I hear you talking about Obama and the Democrats and the liberals wanting to feast.
I can't, Russia, I can't put my arms around the concept that there are Americans who want us to lose a war.
I just I can't I can't I can't grasp that.
I don't understand.
I don't want to believe that there are there are people that want to run this country who actually don't like this country.
And I thought, wow, what a great question.
So I endeavored to answer it.
You've you've heard the answer on this program before.
They don't think they're hurting the country.
They don't like it the way it is, they want to change it.
They don't like capitalism, they don't like liberty freedom, they don't like a number of things they want to change it.
They think they can improve it and perfect it by instituting Policies that have been shown to fail around the world.
Socialism, vast extreme liberalism, and so forth and so on.
Same person just was expressing shock that if his John Edwards story is true, she couldn't believe it, could not believe it, because he thought she cared.
He cared so much about people.
And Obama cares about so much about people.
And I said, this is where character comes in when you start assessing these people.
This is why associations matter.
I said, look, you got Obama.
You got Obama out there, and he makes a speech that no president would make, criticizing his own country, advancing this whole notion that we do nothing but torture, that we are imperfect, that we've got a lot to apologize for, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, who else does he know that thinks that?
Well, Jeremiah Wright.
William Ayers, probably a lot of the Harvard professors who taught him, his wife.
Pretty much everybody in his orbit has the same view of America that he does.
That it's bad.
That it's made a lot of mistakes.
We have a lot to apologize for, that we have a lot to feel guilty about.
He doesn't see exceptionalism, he doesn't see any of this, he doesn't see optimism or positive things.
He's a post-national citizen of the world.
I said, You contrast this, and then I then I said, look at the gaffes.
57 states, all the errors in the speech yesterday he made.
Israel will always be a friend of Israel, he said.
I mean, these are legion.
The investors business daily today has an editorial listing all of these gaffes that some of them are pure ignorance, some of them are dead wrong, and some of them are just, you know, misspoken things that any Republican or Dan Quay or John McCain would say, and they'd be all over him.
And I'd say, here you've got a guy in the White House that you never question his character, you never question his morality, you never question his steadfastness, you know he's not going to change his mind on things when he sets his mind to it.
You know he's not going to give up, and you know that he's not going to sell his own country out.
And yet what's thought of him?
And the word that came back was dumbass.
I said, yeah, you think you think a guy whose character is unassailable, you think a guy whose purpose is known.
You think someone who has no moral uh uh failures that we know of during his service as president or as governor, you're not flitting around getting caught in a hotel at 2 40 in the morning by an inquirer reporters.
None of those things.
This guy's lied about, vilified constantly for seven years, seven and a half years now.
He's the one guy that has taken the defense of this country seriously, and you think he's a dumbass, and you think Obama's brilliant.
When in fact, it's the other way around.
Bush is the dumbass, and Obama is not brilliant.
If Obama can't have it explained to him, he can't say it.
And yet, why the difference?
Why is Bush looked at as a dumbass?
And Obama's brilliant.
Stagecraft.
Image, mackaging, marketing.
Bush doesn't care about stagecraft.
He should, because the presidency is a lot about image and photos and pictures and PR, but he doesn't care about it, got a job to do.
As such, and you've heard me say this in people that know him in person.
You can't keep up with him.
Forty-five minutes without a stutter, without repeating a point, without breathing.
This happened to me last August.
I had dinner up there in the White House, and before so we had we had uh cigars in the treaty room up with the residents.
I told you about this.
He spent 45 minutes taking me around the world.
Problems here, problems there, here's what we're doing about it.
Here's what uh uh Hu Jintao, president of China's biggest problem has got, went all around the world.
Confident, not like that at all like a guy you see on television.
I don't know why the everybody's asking this.
Nobody knows why the difference exists.
Yet, here you've got a guy, you may not like him, and you may wish she could speak better, and you may wish she articulated better, but you know that when it comes to pursuing genuine evil, you can go about your business and not worry about it because he's going to take care of it along with his troops.
The men and women of the U.S. armed forces.
You don't know that about Obama.
We don't trust that about Obama.
We don't trust that about very many liberals, based on what they say.
And yet Bush is hated.
He's despised.
And Obama is a messiah, universally loved.
Packaging, marketing, stagecraft.
And, of course, ideology with the slavish disciple media making Obama into something he's not.
And I think this guy, Andrew Klavan, writing in the Wall Street Journal, Batman, Batman.
No different than Bush.
In his view, as he watched him.
I haven't seen The Dark Knight.
But it's just amazing.
It is amazing how much hatred there is for Bush simply because he doesn't speak well.
And so people think he's embarrassing us as a country in Europe.
When Europe loves Bush, Tony Blair loves Bush.
Sarkozy loves Bush.
Angela Merkel love Bush.
The Pope loves Bush.
None of what is said about Bush is true.
And he doesn't refute it, which is I think why his opinion numbers are so low, because he didn't defend himself.
It's not because he's hated.
That's where the Democrats are making a big mistake.
Assuming he's hated and the election's going to be an up or down on him.
Anyway, I have to take a brief time out, my friends sit tight.
We'll be back and continue on the EIB network right after this.
It is open line Friday.
We go back to the phones at Appleton, Wisconsin, one of my all-time favorite places, by the way.
I was just up there in uh in late April.
Debbie, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
You said you were up here?
I was up there, yes.
Oh, how come I didn't know about it?
I never heard about that.
Well, it wasn't public.
I was it was not a public appearance.
I went up there on business, and I had dinner at uh at Lombardy Steakhouse in the Radison.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Well, not my call.
I'm nervous.
My call is twofold.
One to apologize and the other to thank you, because I'm kind of a reformed liberal, and I absolutely used to despise you.
I would listen to you.
I'm a sales rap, so I travel all the time.
I would listen to you every so often, and I would just scream at the radio and yell at you.
Really, that's an emotion.
Most people talking into my head.
Most people that hate me, Debbie, uh, don't listen.
You are unique.
You did listen and still hated me.
Well, I just had to yell at you, and because you know, uh, God forbid I I I am actually admitting this, people, some people will be shocked.
Um, but I actually voted for Clinton twice, and that kind of did it to me after that, listening to you.
You just made so much sense, so I have to thank you for that.
But I I'm a big fan now, and uh I can't even imagine.
I look back now and think, what?
I mean, maybe I was possessed or something because I look back and think, how could I have even thought these things?
How could I have been a liberal?
You're talking back during the Clinton years, the Clinton administration?
I thought George W. was the first Republican I ever voted for, and I'm very happy I did still am.
Well, you know, I I probably might might be able to explain that not psychologically in your case, but uh there might have been some things if you were if you've been a liberal democrat all your life, there were some things that really shook you guys up back then, like losing the house in 1994, uh, and then the attacks on Clinton for what he was.
I mean, I I think there was a cult of people that supported Clinton who just defended him, not because they loved him, but because who was attacking him.
And I think, you know, one of us, uh, one of those leading those uh attacks was of course me, El Rushbow.
But what was it that uh I mean, how do you go from such a passionate hatred or dislike to now becoming a fan?
Well, because what you're saying is absolutely the truth.
Now, you know, I'm that typical person.
You know, I started out where, you know, I was young and naive, and you know, when I was 40, basically when I was forty, you know, and my career started getting into Folkwing.
I started, you know, with my daughter, I had a child, I'm paying all these taxes.
I started thinking, you know what, um, maybe we should start making people do something for the handouts we give them.
Nobody's given me anything.
I've had to work all my life for everything I've ever gotten, and that's a good thing.
That makes me proud to be who I am, but I'm not sure.
Okay, then I have I I I can explain what happened to you.
Good.
I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I could be wrong, of course.
Highly unlikely, but I've I think you started thinking about things rather than just feeling.
And when you And when you started thinking about it, none of it made any sense.
You're right.
It doesn't.
I mean, what it was was hatred.
I have to tell you a little story.
It kind of brought me back last week at downtown Appleton.
I went to the farmer's market, and there was a gentleman always handing out these, you know, these little programs for the the Packers schedule, and he's running for state assembly, I guess, and he was handing these out, and I never asked him anything.
There's a guy in front of me said, Are you running Republican or Democrat?
And he said, Well, I'm running Republican.
This man, it just shook me up.
He took the program, crumpled it up, walked over to in front of this man, threw it in the garbage, and and stomped off.
So I could just as quick as it could be, I felt God put me there for a reason.
So I said, well, now that I know you're not an idiot Democrat, I'll take one of those programs.
And I thought that was so funny.
It was like I was put there for a purpose, like to finally pay back for all the probably crummy things I did as a liberal.
Well, look, you know, the you we all can look back at our past and uh find uh things about which to be embarrassed.
Uh but at the time, you didn't think you were making the wrong decision, so it's it's not nobody purposely thinks they're making the wrong decision.
So don't beat yourself up over uh up over it.
Uh you have now seen the light.
You are enlightened, and it's uh it's great to know that you're out there.
Uh and I love Appleton, Wisconsin.
I'll be up there again probably later this month sometime.
But I gotta run now.
Thanks very much, Debbie.
I'm glad you waited.
We'll be back and close it out right after this.
Well, next week we start building up to the uh celebration of our twentieth anniversary, which is a week from today, ladies and gentlemen.
So have a great weekend.
Thanks for being with us today.
See you in a couple days before you know it.
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