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June 19, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 19, 2008, Thursday, Hour #3
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Hour number three, it has been a ride.
We've had a good time today.
Lots to do and lots more to do.
I'm Mark Davis from WBAP Dallas Fort Worth, Texas with you today.
Jason Lewis with you from Minneapolis tomorrow.
Do join him for that and join Rush on Monday, because that's when he'll be back.
Between now and then, have a wonderful weekend.
But one hour left on this Thursday, and we are glad to start that off by visiting the White House.
Counselor Ed Gillespie with us.
You'll remember him as RNC chairman.
He's been uh behind uh a number of interesting political campaigns from our shared uh friend Dick Army to John Kasich to George Allen, just a guy with a lot of stuff in his head, and he serves the president well in that regard every day.
Ed Gillespie, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, Mark.
Thanks for having me on.
It is my great honor.
Not a lot of guest opportunities when Rush is here.
So hey open season, man.
Open season.
I love it.
Hey, uh, it has to be an interesting couple of days to be you.
Because yesterday there's the president out there in the uh sun splashed yard of the uh White House, actually saying things that you don't have to shovel sand against the tide to get the American people to appreciate.
I think that that everybody not everybody, but a really nice majority is with you on drill here, drill now, pay less.
Uh there's no doubt about it.
And uh with gasoline over four dollars a gallon, Americans are open to taking a look at new ways to bring down the cost of gasoline, including production here domestically, which has been blocked every step of the way by the Democratic-led Congress.
And uh the President came out yesterday and uh and added to other voices out there saying now is the time to reappraise your past positions on these and the efforts that you've made to block any effort to explore domestically off of our coasts, uh and by the way, pretty well off of our coast,
not where you would be seeing rigs out there, but uh on the outer continental shelf or in the shale oil region in the uh in Utah and Colorado and of course Anwar, and to and to expand refineries so that we can have refining capacity for the oil that we produce, and and uh the American people are supportive of that, and we're hopeful that Democrats and Congress will reconsider their past opposition.
Good luck with that.
Let's let's let's talk about that, because I don't know, maybe after a little bit of time it may happen.
But it appeared just yesterday, not long after the President uh made his uh remarks with Secretary Kemp Thorm and Secretary Bodner right there alongside Energy and the Interior, uh that the instant Democrat index cards came whipping right out.
We can't drill our way out of this.
This won't do anything to oil prices right now, as if anything would.
So it seems like they were getting their backs up and circling the wagons.
Only a wave of calls from their constituents will change that.
You think that might happen?
Well, I think that uh there's a difference between those uh you know the liberal leadership at the top of the uh House and Senate Democrat caucuses, and some of the rank and file members.
And and the key here, Mark, is if there's an opportunity to get a vote on the floor of the House or the Senate.
Be interesting to see how uh how rank and file member vote members vote because uh uh, you know, I think not all Democrats are going to tow the Pelosi Party line on this and keep their their constituents continuing to pay that uh that premium that they're paying now for the uh for the policies and and you know there is some truth,
by the way, I should say it wouldn't have an immediate effect, just like it took us, you know, seven years of them blocking every effort to to uh expand uh uh exploration for it to reach over four dollars a gallon, uh getting the you know, getting the uh process going and getting permits uh uh issued and getting uh drills put in place and and uh wells pumps will take a while,
uh, but I think it would have a pretty big impact uh almost immediately in terms of people's uh understanding of where the market would be going, and uh that could have an immediate impact on prices.
There were four points the president laid out, and the first was to start drilling along that outer continental shelf.
Uh second was to to let's uh take a look at some oil shale.
Third was let's go make a couple of caribou, scoot a few feet to the left up there in Anwar, and the fourth was for crying out loud.
Can we do something to get some refineries online?
It's been thirty years since we have uh built a refinery in this country.
And so even when uh those who say, well, we ought to have more, you know, the the Saudis ought to pump more, or uh we ought to be getting more production, uh that's crude oil they pump, and and uh the fact is uh it's not like there's a lot of extra capacity in our refineries.
And uh thirty years, you know how much the demand for energy and for gasoline has gone up in thirty years, and yet we haven't built a new refinery in this country because of the antiquated laws and the fact that we've made it so easy for environmental extremists and others to block any permitting process.
Uh so the president did.
That was his fourth part is not only do we need to produce and uh and extract more oil from the ground, once we get it out, we've got to refine it so it can get pumped into cars.
White House Counselor Ed Gillespie with us for a few more minutes.
Let's talk about a couple of other things.
Uh the the win by your own words in an AP story, the window is kind of short.
I mean, uh everything that that's there's no such thing as a long-term Bush plan by definition, because he's only going to be around for a few more months.
But that doesn't mean that everybody's drumming their fingers on the table.
And you before a presidential speech on the economy, uh, I think uh almost a couple of weeks ago, you said that there may be some short-term things in the pipeline, speaking of which, uh, to help stimulate an economy that m a lot of people at various levels still say is is kind of struggling.
Uh there are some things we can do.
Uh the the most important thing I think at this juncture uh is to make permanent the the uh tax cuts that we're put in place because the prospect of this looming tax increase is a huge drag on the economy.
Now, I'm not we're not gonna get that done in this window in all candor, Mark.
So but that I just want to make that point.
There are some things, though, that would be helpful.
Of course, the energy bring bringing down the cost of energy would be hugely helpful.
We are supportive of housing reforms that we think would help provide stability in the in the housing market, and uh we think that that would be uh a positive uh thing when it comes to our mortgage uh mortgages and and uh making sure there's greater uh stability in the financial aspect of of uh people taking out loans to to purchase uh homes, new homes.
We also think on the uh on the national security front, we we've reached agreement with uh Democrats and Republicans in Congress over funding our troops in combat in the Iraq War supplemental uh and in the process providing some funds for our returning veterans as well uh for education and other uh benefits.
Uh and and uh we think that's a a good bill and reached uh it's a bill that the President can sign after having to have threatened vetoes uh repeatedly on things that would have binded our uh commanders in the field from doing what they need to do to win.
Uh the House and Senate uh have reached an agreement on a uh surveillance bill for terrorists overseas, suspected terrorists overseas, foreign tourists overseas that would keep this program going and allow us to continue to interrupt and intercept their planning and plotting uh while at the same time providing protection for those companies that participate in the program, so they'll keep participating and uh give us access to information that we need and and protect them from uh any past efforts they made to uh help the government.
So we're starting to see some movement on some uh priorities of this president.
And uh I have to tell you, and all Gander here just the middle of of June, and uh this president who was when I started uh almost a year ago, it'll be a year ago next week at the White House, people were saying, Oh, he's a lame duck.
Uh he's had a pretty strong run and continues to to be in the mix.
But uh I suspect when Congress goes home for the August recess, uh the convention start in September.
At that point our windows closed.
Will the President be attending uh the McCain convention in St. Paul?
Uh you know, we've not uh made any announcement on uh his plans.
Uh the the norm for uh the sitting president is to is to you know show up on the first day and say goodbye and then and then uh uh get out of the way for the for the nominee.
And uh I can tell you if you saw any uh coverage of the President's remarks last night at the President's dinner uh here in Washington to raise money for the House and Senate campaign committees, uh he is full throated in his support uh for Senator McCain as the uh as the next president and and most importantly at this time in our history, the next commander in chief.
The reverse not so true.
And you know, and there's no way this can't be a little awkward, but it's also pretty obvious to everybody.
If if Ed if it's just you, me, Rush, and you know, some folks who continue to thank God every day that the President Bush is into the U.S. Exactly.
Listen, if I'm gonna go ahead, you can't slip that by the way.
There you go.
And and I I know that McCain has uh of great admiration for for much of what President Bush has done.
But Senator McCain is also seeking to be president of a country that is sometimes at best ambivalent about some of President Bush's record.
I talked to Bill Salmon last hour, who's writing a book that you and I are both gonna love.
The whole the main premise is that history will be far Kinder to the Bush years than current uh pundits are.
But I guess the question I'm really coming down to is last thing I'll ask on this is does everybody kind of understand why McCain feels like he has to distance?
Oh, absolutely.
And and look, the the fact is that uh as President Bush said last night, I've you know, I've uh worked with John and I've run against John, and it is a lot better to have John McCain on your side.
And so he is someone who uh has very strong principles on things that he believes in.
He has bucked his party in the White House, uh, and I can tell you from first hand experience working here.
There are times when uh he he is able to withstand a lot of pressure uh to you know to to change his position.
That is serving him very well as our nominee right now, and uh people do appreciate that.
And the and the fact is, as he has pointed out, that kind of courage and that willingness to reach out across the aisle and work in a bipartisan manner to get things done.
He has specific examples of that, specific examples of having the strength of character to say, no, I'm gonna I know it's not popular, and I know that I have a lot of my friends on my own side of the aisle who aren't with me on this, but this is my stand.
You can't find an instance of that in uh Senator Obama's uh record.
You really can't.
There's not there's not one time that I can think of when he said, you know what, I'm gonna buck my party.
And I guess that's why he in the National Journal is the most liberal member of the United States Senate.
Counselor to the president, Ed Gillespie with us, always a pleasure.
Ed, hey, if somebody wanders into a borders or a Barnes and Noble, can they still find copies of winning right?
I think they can, and I love it if they would buy all the ones that are left off the shelf.
Was Ed's book from what, about fall of 06, I want to say?
Fall of 06.
Very good.
And they've got rave reviews, but not great sales.
Well, hey, look, you it's a good thing you're a Renaissance man with a number of jobs.
It's a ple and thank you for dispatching this one so well and giving us some of your time on it.
Appreciate it a lot.
Best of the boss.
Great to be back with you, Mark.
Thank you.
Ed Gillespie on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis, guest hosting the Rush Limbaugh Show for today, Jason Lewis in from Minneapolis tomorrow, and many of you on the phones with us next on the EIB network.
Not a bad little 33-year-old record, Aerosmith's walk this way.
1975.
We are all so very, very old.
Uh how old was John McCain when this came out?
Oh, you'll make you'll drive yourself crazy.
Don't do it.
Hi, Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh, and we much appreciate uh Ed Gillespie's time.
I was sometimes it bless his heart.
Could you it's not tension, but just the moment of hesitancy.
And I didn't I didn't intend the question uh as as a you know, not a trap or anything like that.
I love Ed, and we may agree or disagree on I think both he and the boss are you know too soft on immigration, but you know, blah, blah, blah.
Uh I just asked because I was curious.
Has President Bush been invited to the convention?
And it was like this second or two of fairly uncomfortable silence.
I'm so God, I'm sorry.
Oh, but think about that.
What uh what are what are the what are the issues behind that decision?
You know, I mean, uh you all right okay.
First thing is I'm gonna be there, I'm going to both of them.
And then the Democrats come first, and thank God the Democrats come first.
And oh, by the way, as I think I made clear last time I had the opportunity to sit uh sit in this chair, uh usually you'd have one party and then a week off and then the other party.
But those uh those communist Chinese Olympics are gonna so crowd the month of August that in order to get everything done before the middle of September, you come out of those Olympics and then it's Democrats, bam, Republicans, bam in rapid succession, which is great because ordinarily what you would have is just the gushing, the enormous uh afterglow of the post-Obama coverage.
But instead of that, as soon as everybody's packing up in Denver, we're all ahead of St. Paul, Minnesota for the Republican convention.
So nothing the matter with that.
But by the time we all get there, we'll will will we see pres will a presidential motorcade wind its way through the capital city of Minnesota, on its way to what is it, the Excel Energy Center there where the uh there are the Minnesota Wild play in the NHL?
Well, it's gonna be wild up there uh no matter what happens, and uh and by I don't know, by then I guess maybe the f the the burning remains of Denver will still be on our uh on our TV screens.
I have a general thought that everything's going to be calmer than we think it is.
Uh Do you already, for example, sense that all this Hillary versus I told listeners this, and you know, we all enjoy being right about stuff every once in a while.
I said, you know what?
The healing will begin immediately.
And it did.
Just like after McCain won everything, and and we were all, you know, everybody was Romney supporter, Huckabee supporter, you know, Fred Thompson, Ron Paul.
Well, no, the Paul people will never give it up.
Uh I was on a roll there, but you know what I mean.
Everybody's pretty well on the way to being fine.
And in the Democratic Party, the Healy, the the healing is not only already underway, it's already pretty well done.
Is there even you know what?
Let's put a test.
I know you're listening to the Limbaugh show no matter what.
I know so many of you are.
Actual Hillary backers, are there any of you?
Are there any of you?
We have thirty-six minutes where we got a break camp here.
Are there any of you still harboring the grudge?
Are there any of you still saying, Well, if my woman couldn't win, no way I can vote for Obama.
I I'm guessing there are a few, but just not so very, very many of you.
You are Democrats before you are anything.
You're much better at this than we are.
There are a lot of Republicans who are still saying, McCain, hell no.
So I but but in Democrat land, come on, your walk, you're already you feel it in your feet, feel the rhythm, clump clump clump, you're already starting to walk in lockstep.
You know it, admit it, admit it, tell the guest host it's okay.
I am jovial but serious about that.
Mark Davison for Rush, let us go to Meadville, Pennsylvania.
Daniel, Mark Davis, thanks for hanging on.
Nice to have you.
Hi, how are you doing?
Very well, thank you.
I think we should take the prisoners from Gitmo and ship them back to Afghanistan for trial.
And I realize why?
Yeah, I think uh this would take some eating a crow of George Bush, but I think he could do it for the country.
Why would he hey why why does he need to eat crow?
And why in the world would you take these commissions uh from the very secure environment of Guantanamo and put them into a security nightmare like Iraq or Afghanistan?
Well, ship them ten at a time for security purposes, and because they'll be hanged in Afghanistan.
Oh, I saw okay.
I'm sorry, sir.
We're not necessarily talking about trying to achieve some type of of Western style justice.
We're talking about throwing them to the wolves, some Saddam style justice with people just hooting and hollering cell phones out, recording all the hangings.
Woohoo, that's a party.
You know.
My first favorite choice is sane rational justice at Guantanamo.
If, however, the prospect as you raised it is uh is is having these guys released by the occasional idiot federal judge, yeah.
I'll t I'll take some uh some uh Baghdad Hilla Balad uh Kabul or the suburb style justice.
Daniel, I appreciate it.
Uh let us um let's see, we got a little time here.
In Burlington, North Carolina.
Debbie, hi, Mark Davis, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
How are you?
Hi, Mark, how are you?
Very good, thank you.
Well, it's my day off today.
So on my day off, I spend my time watching my congressman and my senator at work.
And guess what?
Short day.
Sorry, go sorry, go ahead.
Sometimes, sometimes sadly a long day, but go ahead.
Well, today on the represent on the House of Representatives, um, I just want to give kudos.
Kudos to our Congress for addressing one of our serious needs that we have here in the United States.
Are they addressing our energy crisis?
The drill here, drill now.
We need to take care of business and get her done?
No.
Are they addressing it?
They are they addressing I'm sorry, are they addressing our economic issues because the higher energy prices is causing everything to go up?
No.
What are they discussing today?
How about paid parental leave for federal workers?
Yeah, federal family.
Don't think I have not called uh Pelosi's office and congratulated her on knowing where our priorities are.
I hope that she's on the phone and get busy.
We need to get on the phone and call and tell everybody, get busy.
We need to get her done.
I hope she appreciates your sarcasm as much as I did, even though I trampled it to death.
I apologize.
She was building to a point there, Mark.
She was building to a point.
You totally busted her flow.
Oh, yeah.
Look, I know that there are things Congress has to do, and not everything can be about winning the war, curing cancer, and you know, getting rid of the four dollar gas every single blessed second of every day.
But when there is something the president has asked you to do, like getting rid of the restrictions on American oil, how about at least thinking about doing it?
Mark Davis, be right back.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis.
Sunspots don't like me or something.
I don't know.
Does that ever happen now?
Does this happen when Russia's at the house?
Does this happen?
I mean, I'm getting ready to cruise into the thing.
Oh, that's all right.
No complex around here.
Everything replugged in, everything cool, and uh as they say, no, what was it?
This was uh from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
No matter what happens, your toes still tapping.
1-800-282-2882, 1-800-282-2882 to the phones in Sacramento.
Brian Mark Davis on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Pleasure to have you.
Hello.
Okay, how are you doing, Mark?
I just want to start off by saying I love my country, and I really think Michelle Obama meant what she said the first time when she said that she was not it was the first time that she was ever proud of her country.
And being black, I know a lot of people actually do feel that way.
When you just led fed these things on BET television, you watch these rappers all day, and it's not cool to love politics, be involved with the cops in any sort of way, and you just sat there and you made the belief all you think about is buying and purchasing things.
Materialism, they just want you to buy things, dance and rap.
And I just think it's a shame.
Can I ask you something?
Because being 21, uh as as you uh um as you told uh kit, uh Michelle Obama talked about not having been proud of America during her adult life.
She was born nineteen sixty four.
So her adult life, let's be a generous.
So her adult question know who don't feel like.
But I got a fa got a fast question for you.
Got a quick question.
She she became an adult, became twenty-one, became your age, nineteen eighty-five.
She's been an adult for twenty-three years.
If we use twenty-one as the measuring stick, you've been, you know, how long you've been twenty-one?
A couple of months?
Yeah.
All right.
So what is it that has enabled you in the life that you have led?
Because you were pretty well born the year Michelle Obama became an adult.
Is it a difference in life experience?
Is it a difference that we're we're so far past Dr. King?
You've you've never seen a colored water fountain.
Your entire life has been led in an America that generally has been learned taught how to get it.
But you know what?
If I was raised in Michelle Obama days, those are even worse.
She experienced what?
Segregation and all of that.
So I probably would have been radical back in those days, you know.
You think?
Yeah.
Being segregated, you know, black water phone, white white water phone.
Yeah, what's that?
That would have outraged me.
And understandably so.
No.
And and and that that's why I always made a point to to to make that distinction.
That if she had actually, you know, if uh if if if it were nineteen sixty-five and the civil rights act were just passed in the past year and and someone had, you know, had a grandfather who was a slave and and had faced water cannons in Selma or something like that.
Man, I'd be the first to say that maybe you're being proud of the country is a struggle.
But not for somebody born in nineteen sixty-four, and certainly not for for somebody born just twenty-one years ago.
I appreciate you, sir.
Thank you very, very much for for getting in touch.
We are next up in Buffalo.
And Doug, hi, Mark Davis, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Welcome.
Hi, Mark.
How you doing I'm one of the two percent of the population that works in agriculture farming, basically.
And what what I wanted to uh make make uh what I wanted to say was uh people need to realize that uh every meal they eat, there's probably uh at least a half a dozen diesel engines that were involved in it from uh moving it from the field to their uh plate, and that uh there is no alternate energy to run those engines on.
People need to understand that that's there isn't any other source but oil, and we need uh we need oil at a reasonable price to keep those engines running because the food supply is not something that you can just let run out.
You can't let it stop.
We can't dally around on this that for the foreseeable future, not just agriculture and not just diesel engines, but the rest of us just driving in our normal lives are going to need an enormous amount of fossil fuels, and we better set about the business of getting it.
If along the process of the next few years we Manage to find some technology that works as well.
Hooray for us.
But in the meantime, turning our backs on our current oil needs is insane.
Like you say, we'll starve.
Well, it's I think we need to be not so naive as to just think that it's a you know it's a real possibility, and we need to really understand that now is the time to uh stand up.
The population has to stand up and say, we're not going to go into that place where uh food gets short so that we can keep the air clean.
We have to uh come to the point of saying maybe it's time to uh regulate these clean air standards and make these engines a little bit more efficient and work in some of these directions because food supply is not like housing.
You can't set it aside for three years and then go back and use that house.
It's there's all there's a really narrow window in there, and if it begins to slow down or stop, we're in a world of trouble.
What exactly do you do, Doug?
We raise potatoes.
Gotcha.
How's that working out for you?
Well, we're getting squeezed with the cost.
You know, the costs are astronomical, and we we're passing them on as long as we can, but uh we're uh vertically integrated enough to where we can go to the to the uh company that sells them to the to the public and ask them, you know, what what how much what price increase can the public stand before they can't buy this product?
And it comes down to you this year we'll get through.
Next year it comes to the place of uh if he tells us this is the limit, they won't they can't pay anymore for this, and we say, Well, these are our costs, what are we gonna do?
I mean, we can't provide you with this product at any cheaper cost.
This is the this is the bottom line cost.
Yeah, there's i economics classes will tell you about elastic demand and inelastic demand.
You reach a certain point where the price gets high, people start to look very very seriously at living without whatever you're providing.
Doug, thank you.
Best of luck to you and best wishes.
Mark Davis in for Rush.
We'll be right back on the EIB network.
Whatever you may have planned for today, just make sure everybody wang chung tonight.
Okay, that's that's all we ask here at the IB network.
Hi, Mark Davison for Rush, and Jason Lewis in for you tomorrow, filling in for us from up in Minneapolis.
Uh and I have it's kind of funny.
Uh, you know, you live a life and you go a hundred different places.
Been to Minnesota, never been to the Jason Lewis uh neighborhood there in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
Uh, but I will be in a couple of months.
Can't wait to get up there.
Maybe I'll run into him.
That would be nice.
He's a good guy, and uh talk a little politics at the Republican convention.
Also looking forward to being in Denver for the Democrats and there.
They're both going to be a scene, man.
For very different reasons.
There's gonna be a scene.
It'll be interesting no matter what.
Speaking of interesting, let's dive into more of your calls, like for example, in Des Moines.
Bonnie, Mark Davis, I'm in for us.
It's nice to have you.
How are you?
I'm fine.
How are you?
Great, thank you.
Well, I just wanted to call and let you know that I am a Democrat, and I am for Obama, and I live in um a suburb of Des Moines, Iowa, which is predominantly white people, but we do have minorities, and uh I went to my caucus in January, which first of all it was the largest caucus I have ever attended.
Um, and I will say that the people there that were voting for Obama who were for Obama were three to one over Hillary.
Very few people were for John Edwards, and zero people for some of the other candidates.
Yeah, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, just nothing.
I and I was up there for that, Bonnie, and that's a wonderful town you have and a great state in Iowa, but it was clear early in the evening how this was gonna go.
Why do you think that happened?
Well, I think it's because we're just sick and tired of the way that things go, and I think uh most people are not in favor of the war in Iraq, and I also think a lot of people are terribly upset with our government and not just George Bush, but most politicians over the uh catastrophe that happened in American Katrina.
All right.
Then I'm in since almost every Democrat running is going to give you something different than President Bush.
And every Democrat running is going to to pull our troops out of Iraq.
It's just a matter of fact.
I hope so.
Why then since uh then what is it about Obama that enabled him to beat the living daylights out of the most famous woman in the world, Hillary Clinton, and guys with resumes as long as both our arms like Bill Richardson and Joe Biden?
How did that happen?
Why what made you an Obama f follower and not good, longstanding, reliable Democrats like Joe Biden and Bill Richardson?
I had a lot of respect for uh Joe Biden and Bill Richardson, but the reason I am supporting Obama was because he Wants change.
And like I said, I want I want all of the politicians.
From what change from what I mean, what kind of change will Barack Obama give you that Joe Biden would not?
Well, begin with he's much younger, so we're looking at new ideas.
I want the new people to be coming in and becoming politicians.
Okay, so what idea, what idea will come out of Barack Obama's head because he's younger than Joe Biden that would not come out of Joe Biden's head because he's older than Barack Obama.
Well, I don't know if there would be any idea that's going to come out different.
Well, then what difference does it make?
Then then why not go with the guy who's actually been around the block a couple of times?
Because it's it represents old Washington.
I want new Washington.
Oh, good Lord.
Okay.
Well, and and I'll just I'll try again.
What is it about new Washington that you will like better?
Begin with, I want to get rid of the hatred.
I do not like the negative politicians.
Uh I do not like the negativity in the campaign.
Uh those are the kind of things that I want to see.
I want to see people be Americans where they love everybody, not just some of the people, and they don't judge people on their race or what religion they are, and what church they go to, and how much money we have and how much money we don't have.
I want the wealthy as well as the poor people to be well off.
And I don't mean materialistically.
I mean just feeling good about themselves and being at peace with living in United States of America.
And Barack Obama can do this, but Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton could not.
Uh no, I think they could, but just not in my book.
Okay.
I think Obama could do it the best.
I I listen, I the uh a part of any vote is what concrete things will you like about somebody, and another another very valid and real part of any vote is how does the guy make me feel?
Do I just like him?
Am I excited about him in the White House?
And that is as much a part of anybody's vote on either side.
Bonnie, I appreciate it.
My best to all you, you you'll folks are having a tough time up in Iowa, so my best wishes to your whole state, and thank you for being with us.
Appreciate it a lot.
Okay.
Um gosh, what to make of that?
A word or two for me, maybe you when we return.
I'm Mark Davis in for Rush on the EIB Network.
All right, I want to thank Bonnie and Des Moines and everybody who called, and I really enjoyed our our chat because if the first thing you noticed is that there was no real way to define the actual change that Obama could bring, and she just really couldn't do it, but she just really didn't care.
She was just excited about him being president, something every candidate ultimately needs.
Mark Davis in for rush, thanks a lot.
Jason Lewis tomorrow, thanks to Kit Carson and Mike Mamone, and to you for listening here on the EIB Network.
God bless our troops and God bless our country.
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