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May 20, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 20, 2008, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And welcome back.
It's hour number three.
I'm Mark Davis at WBAP Dallas-Fort Worth filling in for Rush Limbaugh today.
Quite the honor, quite the privilege.
Thanks so much.
And Rush will be back tomorrow.
We're going to get right back into your calls quite quickly here at 1-800-282-2882, 1-800-282-2882.
The story of the day, and it is, of course, slowly washing across the land, slowly enveloping every newscast.
And people are, I can just hear them texting each other.
Have you heard?
And that is that Senator Ted Kennedy's four-day hospitalization now, we know, is because of a malignant brain tumor in the left parietal lobe.
And so let's do this.
It's a talk show, right?
Can we all come together and agree?
It's a talk show.
This is what Rush does every day.
This is what I do every day here in Texas.
We talk about things.
So if I lay down a base coat of human decency here and say that our very first thought is every prayer and every good wish for Senator Kennedy and his family.
And that's just the first thing, and some might argue the only thing that needs to be said, except that it's a talk show.
So if I can insulate myself with that, let's spend a moment.
And if it's okay for me, it's okay for you.
And talk a little bit about the ramifications of this.
This is not a story without political ramifications.
The first thing that you need to know is that it's impossible to know right now how long Senator Kennedy will now be with us.
Of course, he's 76.
You could have said yesterday we don't know how long he'd be with us.
People are saying that about John McCain.
It's not unfair to say that.
But when you crop up with a malignant brain tumor, that starts the clock running for a lot of people.
And his doctors are the most informed on that.
And they're not talking yet and probably will not be particularly specific because they're going to talk a good game as they should, as they should about treatment with chemo and with radiation.
And yes, there are indeed people who have lived with this kind of tumor for three, even five years.
Will Senator Kennedy be one of them?
It's impossible to know.
We do have a recent Senate cancer story.
Arlen Specter, you remember a lot of times you hadn't seen Arlen Specter for a while, then he shows up kind of bald and drawn and wan and pale looking.
He's like, yikes, what happened to him?
And the answer was Hodgkin's lymphoma.
And Arlen Specter is older than Ted Kennedy.
He's 78.
Now, I'm not going to play, can you top this with cancer, but Hodgkin's lymphoma is not a brain tumor.
And Senator Specter got treated for this, and he just looks great today, apparently.
And his was one of the happy endings.
You probably don't get as many of the endings like that with something like Senator Kennedy has here.
But again, specifics on this are going to be very hard to come by, and we may not know until we know.
Please, don't you all have in your families, and haven't you all heard stories where someone or they say you got six months, but you live three years, or they say you got three years and you live six months or anything in between.
But here in talk show land, here in political talk show land, it's okay to spend a moment on what this means politically because it's a political time.
Senator Kennedy is one of Barack Obama's most noteworthy supporters.
The first thing I suppose you might lose is the notion of Senator Kennedy on the campaign trail vigorously for Senator Obama.
Now, is that so necessary?
Would he have really done that anyway?
It could be argued that Senator Kennedy did Senator Obama the greatest favor he possibly could have some months ago by endorsing him in the first place.
Everybody knows that Ted Kennedy is a Barack Obama supporter.
Once you said it, there you are.
Once it's done, it's done.
And so the benefit may already be enjoyed.
And maybe Senator Obama did not need 57 campaign events during September and October with Ted Kennedy by his side.
And I don't know if that would have happened.
But right now, you got to think that it probably would not.
And maybe that's a small detriment to the Obama campaign.
But then here's this.
Here's America.
Here's the way America can be.
And I think this says good things about us more than bad.
We're just a bunch of saps.
I know I am.
This one won't affect me, but I can see where people, either undecided or undermotivated Democrats or crossover voters who are flipping a coin, might look at this and say, wow, we might be about to lose one of the great political figures of our great in terms of impact, not a judgment call.
Don't call me about that.
You know what I mean?
One of the most impactful political figures in American history.
And if he wanted Barack Obama to be president, let's see if we can make him president while he's still alive.
I absolutely can see that argument affecting a few votes.
How many?
I don't know.
In a close election, every little bit can have some sway.
So anyway, that's really it.
I just wanted to sort of push the door open a little bit.
I didn't want you to be a shrinking violet if you're sitting there with a thought in your head about, wow, this might be truly the end of the Kennedy era.
I know they got kids, but I don't think Patrick is going to be rising to be of much consequence.
Joe is doing bizarre Venezuelan oil commercials across New England.
The Kennedy family still has plenty of offspring who are coming of age, but I don't think we will see.
I don't think we will see the likes of Jack, Bobby, and Ted.
Some for brilliance and genius and passion and energy, some for longevity or various combinations thereof.
I don't think we'll see the likes of that kind of impact of politician from this family again.
At least not in this, in the generation that we're currently working our way through.
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You're welcome to address yourself to comment on that or don't or whatever you want to do.
Let's dive back to folks that were on hold during the top of the hour and see what's going on with them.
We are in Hammond, Illinois, and Karen, that is you.
I'm Mark Davis, filling in for Rush Limbaugh.
How are you?
I'm fine.
First of all, my regards to Senator Kennedy.
And I did want to say that I strongly disagree with Operation Chaos.
I think it could really backfire on conservatives.
How so?
Well, I think Hillary could end up in the White House, and I think that would be total disaster.
And people keep saying she's strong, she's strong, and that's not necessarily a good thing when it's an enemy of freedom like she is.
Well, you're right about that, or any Democrat that would run.
If Hillary, so you fear a Hillary presidency more than an Obama presidency?
Yes, I do.
Yikes, why?
Well, because Obama is naive and he's misguided, and he's a liberal.
Yeah.
But Hillary, I think she's an arrogant, evil monster.
And I know that sounds.
Well, that explains it.
But seriously, though, if we can come away for a moment, not that I begrudge you those characterizations, but let's talk about what they actually would do as president.
And there it comes down to some nuts and bolts analysis of what they stand for and what they would do.
Barack Obama is far more liberal and I think far more unpredictable.
And I'm not sitting here lobbying for Hillary for president, but I think there's no denying that there's a reason why she's the stronger candidate against McCain is that she seems to be a pretty rock-solid, fairly almost mainstream 21st century Democrat.
And God only knows what he really is.
She is.
Have we forgotten who stole 500 or 900 FBI files?
And who stole Billy Dale?
No, I know I haven't.
The people voting for her probably have, though.
And let's spend a second on Hillary as crook, because you're totally right about that.
And any Republican with white water, file gate, travel gate, and all that would be so totally rejected by now and so vilified every day that the candidacy could scarcely walk afoot.
In Hillary's case, though, if there's anything that's probably true, irrespective of whatever she was doing in Little Rock or even in Washington in the early 90s, she won't be doing it anymore.
I mean, she would be the most watched politician maybe in history, partly because of her crooked past.
And I got to tell you, as much as I would recoil at the notion of her policies, if she were to become president and you were to ask me to bet on the likelihood of her being caught up in a law-breaking scandal of some kind, I would swear to you, I'd say not a chance.
She'd be clean as pure as the driven snow.
I mean, bad policies, you know, bad health care decisions, bad withdrawal from Iraq, high taxes, all the things you'll get from any Democrat.
But I think she knows she is not going to be able to get away with any more Rose law firm shenanigans or anything.
I wouldn't want her to be that clean because that gives her more power.
I think if Slick Hilly and Slick Willie get back into the White House, I don't think we'll ever get them out.
And I think people make a mistake thinking we can let the Democrats have a few victories and then just overnight we can't.
Oh, you're totally right about that.
You are completely.
It will be long-term damage done by them.
And my main point is, though, I don't think Obama can even win.
And this is the logic I'm hearing from my political allies.
They're saying Obama is weak and he can't win the election.
Therefore, we must help Hillary, the stronger candidate, to get the nomination.
And that just makes no sense to me.
Well, I don't think she's electable either.
And it's kind of funny.
I don't know if even Rush has issued this sentence.
If he has, then someone will tell me.
I don't believe that either one of them is electable this year.
They simply, and that doesn't mean we're not ready for a black candidate or not ready for a woman candidate.
Just not this black guy and not this woman.
John McCain will be the next president of the United States unless something just unspeakable happens in his life or in his campaign.
So that's the good news.
The likelihood of all this playing out and of Hillary actually being commander-in-chief is simply not going to happen.
Since I'm that comfortable in that regard, I'm able with pure objectivity, Lord knows I have no dog in this hunt, to look at the Democratic race and actually evaluate who is stronger.
And I think that McCain beats Obama by X amount, but that McCain beats Hillary by somewhat less.
Because to this very day, I think even Democrats who voted for him a few months ago, now many of them wish they could have that back because they take a look at McCain Obama and they say, you know what?
He might just eat Obama alive.
I mean, just everybody, please remember in this rock star era of 75,000 drooling fans in Portland and all of this and all of that, at some point, Barack Obama is going to come ramming headlong into the wall that is the general election, in which case it's not just his job to make partisan Democrats swoon, but to make crossover voters, independent voters, people on the fence, moderates,
actually go for the notion of a radical liberal who's unvetted and untested for President of the United States.
It's not going to happen.
And Karen, I so appreciate your view and thanks for getting in touch.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show, 1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis, and we're hanging out for 42 more minutes.
So let's get going and come right back with more of your calls.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in.
Rush will be back tomorrow.
It is a day that is, listen, there's the usual stuff to talk about, and we are, but there's obviously the enormous story of the day is the discovery of a malignant brain tumor in Senator Ted Kennedy.
Just as we head back to your calls here just a couple of moments ago, the Senate minority leader, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, came to the microphones and said it was kind of a somber lunch meeting of Senate Republicans.
We had a prayer for Senator Kennedy and for his family.
Our concerns go out to his wife, Vicki, and all the members of the Kennedy family who've experienced so much tragedy in their lives.
That prayer included, obviously, hoping for the best and for a speedy recovery for our colleague, Senator Kennedy.
And I know I speak for every Republican in the conference that this was a development of a great concern and sadness to all of our members.
Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Senate minority leader.
Let's head back to your calls.
Go to the fine capital city of the Commonwealth of Virginia in Richmond.
Karen, Mark Davis, hi, in for Rush Limbaugh.
Welcome.
Nice to have you.
Thank you, Mark.
Nice for you to have me.
Sure.
Nice to be at.
Yes, I didn't want to go there.
That's quite all right.
I'm nervous.
I'm sorry.
Listen, the reason I'm calling is with all of this bad news about Senator Kennedy, and he's most definitely not one of my favorites, but my point is that this is now going to overshadow a vote that's coming up tomorrow in the House.
It's been shoved into the war bill, and it's another backdoor amnesty attempt.
They're calling them guest workers again, or are you familiar with it?
Very much so.
And you're right to bring this up, too.
We were talking about the political ramifications of this story, and part of it is, what does this knock off the front pages for a day or two?
What will people be able to get away with because everybody's focusing properly on Senator Kennedy?
What's your suspicion?
My suspicion is that this will overshadow it to the point.
Well, let's face it, we're now I'm part of the biggest audience, and this was the best time to put that out there and have everyone, let's burn up the banks like we did last time, the phone banks up there and emails, et cetera, and tell them we know what they're doing.
And tomorrow when this vote comes up, don't you dare do it.
We told you no once, and we mean it.
Stop it.
With every care, and thank you.
With every little step, I mean, it's the old proverb that a journey of a million miles begins with small steps.
Taking the journey in big gulps didn't work so well for those that wanted to keep our borders porous and cobble together a guest worker program that was indeed amnesty.
As some actual bills and other riders to unrelated bills, and you mentioned something that's one of my favorite tactics, attaching something to war funding, so that you can later say, well, my opponent or my colleague voted for this or against that when it actually had nothing to do with what the actual bill was about.
Just to go ADD on you for a second, if there's anything I'd love to do, a bill ought to be about a bill.
We all talk about reform all the time.
Here's the one Mark Davis reform that I would throw down tomorrow.
Your bill about corn subsidies cannot be about war funding.
And your bill about war funding cannot be about corn subsidies.
No riders, no, part of this would be taken care of with no earmarks of any kind, which is, by the way, what the Republican Party needs to be doing.
No earmarks of any kind.
This is something John McCain can step forward and say that I think will help him be ahead of the curve because I don't think it's something that Barack Obama will say.
No earmarks of any kind.
And then while we're at it, Senator McCain can say a few other things based on what Karen of Richmond was just talking about right there.
And that is to step forward and say, I heard you, America, when you said before any kind of guest worker program gets debated, you want to make sure that our borders are secure.
I, as president, will make those borders secure.
Then we can have a proper debate about what to do with the illegal immigrants who are already here.
Now, when that happens, I don't know about you, but for my point, I'll be talking a lot about, oh, I don't know, deportation.
Silly, silly me.
I believe that those who are out ought to stay out.
Those who are in ought to be here legally.
And those that are here illegally ought to go back to the mother country.
Call me crazy.
I'm Mark Davis in for Rush.
Be right back.
Thanks, Johnny.
And nothing says working class white people like some Bachman Turner overdrive.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show serving people of all colors, all stripes and sizes.
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I'm Mark Davis in Dallas, Fort Worth.
Actually, in Arlington, it's funny.
I learned when I came to work here in 1994, and I had a guest on, and I said something stupidly on the first day.
I said, hey, you know, Alan Aldo or whatever.
Welcome to Dallas.
I got angry calls from Fort Worth saying, don't forget us.
I actually come to you from Arlington, right, SmackDab between Dallas and Fort Worth.
And right outside my window is the enormous temple that the Dallas Cowboys are going to play in starting not this year, but next year.
And I know what a huge NFL fan Rush is, and we look forward to welcoming him down here for the yet unnamed stadium.
Now, here's my big kick down here.
It's not like Jerry Jones and I are out for coffee every day.
But if we were, I would say to him, and I write a column in the Dallas Morning News.
Here's the shameless plug.
If you want to go to dallasnews.com slash opinion, there I am splayed out for you over the past few weeks of columns.
And one of the ones I wrote was, Jerry, don't name the stadium after anything.
Don't turn down the corporate money.
Listen, I'm a pro-business conservative.
I love corporate money.
When I see the Lincoln Financial Field and FedEx Field and Synergy Field and Pac Bell Park and all of that.
That is the sound of commerce and free markets.
I have no trouble with it whatsoever.
But this is the Dallas Cowboys we're talking about.
They currently play in Texas Stadium, a building that speaks to everything that is vast and wonderful about our state.
I don't want them, I don't want the Cowboys playing in ATT Stadium.
And God bless ATT.
I love them.
So, you know, and how much, how many Bentleys does Jerry need to drive?
And I don't play the politics of envy, and I don't begrudge Jerry a dime that he's made.
But, you know, now the Colts are going to be playing in a new stadium named after an oil company.
And God bless oil companies.
I think I've made clear how much I love them.
But you know what else I love?
I love the old days of Riverfront Stadium.
I grew up in the suburbs of Washington, where the Redskins played at DC Stadium, which then became RFK.
In fact, down here in Cowboy Country, we play the Redskins and the Eagles a lot.
And I wrote in the column that we used to go to Washington and play at RFK.
We used to go to Philadelphia and play at Veteran Stadium.
Stadiums that used to be named for heroes are now named for the stock ticker symbol that opened its checkbook the widest.
Every once in a while, I like to engage in a fight that I know I'm going to lose just to fight the good fight and just to be on record for having done so.
And I'm working on it down here, man.
And what do I want?
Probably Tom Landry Stadium or something like that.
I don't know.
Shoveling sand against the tide, I'm guessing.
All right, let us address the tide of your phone calls on a wide variety of subjects.
We are in Birmingham, Alabama.
Eben, Mark Davis, in for Rush Limbaugh, and it's a pleasure to have you.
Hello.
Yes, pleasure to call.
Thanks for taking my call.
Sure.
I just wanted to call and say that the people in Texas, they may call themselves Fundamental Saturday Saints, but early Mormons never traded their wives around.
They never abused children.
They never secluded themselves from the outside world.
They were parts of the community.
Granted, some communities didn't like them, but they still were part of the community.
And it just irritates the crud out of me when people refer to them as Mormons or that, you know.
That's what I'm, and I don't think very many people, certainly not in the media.
I mean, the media seem to have gotten this one right.
They have not referred to them or confused them with mainstream Mormonism.
This is what I was talking about.
I'm so glad to have you here because with the other guy who just sort of rolled off his back and he was an LDS member in California, of course, maybe as the only actual Mormon in Alabama, you might be feeling differently.
Kidding, kidding, kidding.
But I've thought about you guys, and I've wondered how mainstream Mormons must feel as day in and day out, this endless frontier Halloween of the FLDS sect plays out on TV.
And I wonder if folks like you just bang your head against the wall and say, man, I need this like a hole in my head.
Well, it doesn't, you know, if people ask me about it, I just tell them they're not Mormons.
I mean, I can dress myself in a duck suit and tell people I'm a duck, but it ain't going to matter.
Superb, superb reference.
Thanks very much, sir.
And good wishes to you, and thanks very, very much.
Let's go to New York.
Let's go to the mighty WABC.
Booyah, Stuart Scott's favorite call, by the way.
Hi, Mark Davis, Infor Rush.
How are you doing?
Good, sir.
Busy day.
I have a small business.
I'm running like chicken without hat all day between the counties.
But all in all, hello from the typical working white guy or whatever.
That's right.
A Hillary voter?
I don't know.
You tell me.
Hillary, Hillary.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, sir.
The way I see it, and many of many people that I talk to, the working guys, we see that we have values, and those values have been trampled by these far left and these yuppies and all this stuff.
So the thing is that when we see success and we saw success in Clintons, we stick with them.
And you see it yourself.
Her base is still holding, even though whatever the far right couldn't do to the Clintons, the far left is doing to them.
And isn't that wild as people from Bill Richardson, I mean, other cabinet members, people who are such a part of the Clintonista inner circle are just bailing on her.
Excellent point, Mr. Davis.
You see, this is precisely why I called, because me as a person, I would never forgive Bill Richardson for doing that.
Because, you know, as a typical bitter white working guy, you know, we value the friendship.
You know, we value that, you know, we don't have a lot of goodies, but what we have in common is that friendship.
And that friendship we cherish, and these people are.
Can I ask you, though?
Because, boy, then you probably enjoyed it when James Carville took the Easter holiday to call Bill Richardson a Judas.
But I've listened to Governor Richardson's explanation on that.
He said, look, I've thought about it.
I absolutely admire Hillary.
And I thought about it.
And your mocking laughter probably tells me where we're going with this, but I'll ask anyway.
It's okay.
He changed his mind.
Does he not get to do that if he thinks Obama's the better candidate?
Does he not get to do that?
Mark, I mean, I have two small points because you've got other calls to smooth.
It's okay, right?
The thing is that one is I have, I told you, I have a small business.
So if somebody gives me a chance to become a millionaire, I would never forget this guy.
So he got, Clinton gave him two secretaries' positions, and he just, you know, throw that on the mud.
And two, I don't believe it's going to be 5%.
I believe it's going to be 20% to 30%.
Reagan Democrats, Clinton Democrats, Conservative Democrats, whatever you call us.
But we're going to carry John McCain over the fence.
Well, thanks for the call and for the vote.
Mark my words, Bart.
Mark my words.
And then November, you will see it.
You'll see it yourself.
And proof is in the pudding.
Don't you see in the pudding?
I'm sorry, my English is not a very good question.
Oh, listen, you're doing better than a lot of people born here.
No problem.
Proof is in the pudding.
Don't you see the faithful of the Clintons?
You see how they're holding on.
I'm sending money every other day to Clintons.
We're believers.
What these losers did, losers I call Kerry, Gore, and Kennedys.
I call them losers because they never won anything.
So I call them losers.
Kennedys might differ.
Clinton won twice as the president.
So you still, so last thing, because I'm just having such a good time here.
I got to go.
But do you still hold out a glimmer of hope that she might find some way to wrangle the nomination?
Well, I think so.
I think so.
And the worst two words, she's positioning herself for 212 because obviously Obama is going to lose, you know, because the Yuppis won't go out there and vote on a raised day.
Believe you, me.
She'll still be a young woman in 2012.
God bless you, sir.
Thank you very, very much for a wonderful, wonderful call.
1-800-282-2882-1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh, who is back with you tomorrow.
And I'm back in about three, four minutes.
We'll be right back.
The EIB Network is always there, even when Rush takes a day or two off, as he has done this week.
He is back with you tomorrow.
I'm Mark Davis here at WBAP Dallas-Fort Worth, ready to hop back on to some more of your calls.
But obviously, a lot of people have been coming to cameras and microphones this afternoon in Washington on the occasion of the discovery of the malignant brain tumor in Senator Ted Kennedy.
Among them, just a couple of moments ago, the junior senator from Massachusetts and someone who's actually been to visit Senator Kennedy or who has spoken with him at least, John Kerry.
Everybody needs to pull for him and his family.
And remember that this guy is one unbelievable fighter.
Over the weekend, I saw him.
He's in a fighting mood.
He is asking questions about what the choices are for him.
He's deeply involved in making all the kinds of personal decisions that any of you would.
John Kerry on Capitol Hill just a couple of minutes ago.
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Let us, well, here's one happy town.
Yeah, you know, I got to tell you, it took a lot for me to gather the gumption to be on the air today filling in for Rush.
It's always the stuff of great adrenaline and pride.
But my hockey team died a quick death last night, the Dallas Stars losing to the Detroit Red Wings.
And usually when my team is out, I stop watching.
I mean, I kind of stop caring.
But this might be a Stanley Cup final that I might just need to take a peek at because the Red Wings will be one team, and the other team will be those fighting penguins from this town, Pittsburgh.
Paul, very nice to have you.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
My comment is about what the Galaska was saying about Hillary Clinton and, you know, being kind of setting up a history as though when she was running in 2000, or she was helping out with John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election, bringing all her cronies in and setting herself up to run in 2008 because she knew that Kerry was hopeless, isn't going to work out for 2012 either now that she's not winning a nomination in 08.
It's just like Bob Dole did in the past.
It's Bob Dole syndrome.
She's not going to do very well.
There's a huge difference, though.
You're on to something.
This is why I wonder if Barack Obama is going to want John Edwards.
John Edwards is the kind of safe white Christian man that I've talked about repeatedly as needing to be the running mate.
When you're asking somebody to make a big historical leap, whether with a woman in Hillary or an African-American man in Barack Obama, you need that Evan Bayh.
You need that Ed Rendell, safe, white, Christian man.
No more barriers, please.
And John Edwards seems to fill the bill, except what's the last thing we remember him doing?
Losing in 2004.
So the Bob Dole effect, you got an interesting point.
I don't know if I'd use Dole because he was pretty old, and that was pretty well his last campaign, no matter what.
Here's what's different about Hillary: Hillary is going to lose the nomination, not the presidency.
So there are plenty of people from Richard Nixon to Dick Gephardt to George H.W. Bush who have run for things, not succeeded, come back and done it again.
She will not have lost the presidency.
Do you know what else Hillary will have?
What will Hillary have in 2012 if Barack Obama loses?
She will have one of the biggest, I told you so's in political history, won't she?
Yeah, you have a very, very good point.
But I think just the idea that she is larger than life already, and yeah, what you're saying is take it out into consideration, but the fact that she's already at that point where if she doesn't win this, she's pretty much lost the presidency.
When could she?
That's a golden point.
I mean, if she was going to win it, this was the year.
It was inevitable.
The stars had aligned.
And if she couldn't win it this year, when in the world could she?
A thoroughly valid point, Paul.
Thank you.
Next, let's head over to Tucson, Arizona.
Norm, that is you.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in.
It's nice to have you.
Yeah, Mark, hey, I appreciate taking my call today.
Sure.
Hey, and just want to comment upon leadership.
One of the things that Obama lacks in leadership is, I believe, the greatest asset is the ability to influence others towards greatness.
And that's something definitely Obama doesn't have.
For 20 years, he was not able to influence a pastor away from his hate speech and racist attitude.
For 10 years or more, with his wife, he wasn't able to influence her to stop hating America.
Well, I don't know if Michelle hates America, but she doesn't give it enough credit.
But you're asking Senator Obama to do something a little odd.
Your point about leadership is very well taken, but we lead people where we wish to lead them.
You're asking Senator Obama to lead a pastor away from views that he might not have found so noxious.
You're asking him to lead his wife away from an ambivalence toward America that he may, in fact, share.
So before we even get to leadership, we've got to find out where and in what direction Senator Obama even seeks to lead us before we ask whether he's got the gumption to actually do the leading.
Well, it seems that from the people that he associates with, it seems that they're influencing him more than he's influencing them.
Yeah.
Wow.
Spectacular point.
Thank you, Norman.
Appreciate it.
My best to everybody in Tucson, Arizona.
All right, let's go ahead and get this last break out of the way.
Come back, and I will bet you that we might have room for a call or two to wrap us up on this Tuesday, the 20th of May, Kentucky and Oregon Primary Day.
Pay attention to all that coverage tonight.
Lord knows there'll be some kind of wheels-off Keith Ulberman moment that Rush could talk about tomorrow.
Golly Moses.
I'm sure, obviously, more on the Ted Kennedy brain tumor on tomorrow's Rush show, as well as anything else that's in the news and anything else that you might bring up on the Rush Limbaugh Show, which Rush will actually host again tomorrow.
I'm Mark Davis, been doing it here from Texas today.
Love it.
One more segment, and we'll be right back on the EIB Network.
For the final couple of minutes of the Tuesday show here, I'm Mark Davis in Texas, filling in for Rush Limbaugh, who's back with you tomorrow.
It's been a glorious day.
Thank you to all of the calling public, one of whom we can still welcome in Richmond, VA.
Hi, Dee, Mark Davis, in for Rush.
How are you?
Hey, I just want to say that I'm black, and not all blacks are supporting Obama.
I don't agree with anything he says, but the biggest asset he has going for him is the media who wants him to win.
And I will be voting for McCain.
I decided that months ago when I realized Obama was going to be the nominee.
Not just that.
I am just wondering if this whole Obama mania is going to infect the brains of ordinary thinking people.
I mean, good sensible people.
It may be on the wane.
I mean, people used to be passing out.
They used to be fainting.
There was a wonderful montage that people said, could we get some water over here?
Some water?
Because people were just passing out like it was the Beatles at Hollywood Bowl in 1965.
That's not happening so much anymore.
It's a pathetic.
He's, well, listen, every politician would like to have that going for him.
But he's looking a little more and more human, a little more ordinary as the time passes.
And it'll be him and his ideas versus McCain and his.
Real quick, in a minute, I'm just fascinated by you.
What makes you a McCain supporter?
Are you a disgruntled Hillary woman or predestined to be a McCain voter?
Well, I have a Democrat, but I voted Republican in the last two elections.
I just don't buy the Democrat Party's ideas anymore.
They're too liberal.
They're too anti-American.
They're too left-leaning.
And I am a lifelong Democrat.
You didn't leave the party.
You didn't leave the party.
The party left you, one might say.
Dee, thank you very, very much.
A lot of things Republicans were saying, or a lot of things Democrats were saying, rather, in the South, some 20-some years ago.
Hey, to Kit Carson, Mike Mamone, thank you.
Always a pleasure.
And all of you, God love you.
God bless Rush.
He'll be back tomorrow.
Have a fantastic rest of the day.
God bless Senator Kennedy.
We disagree on a lot, but we're rooting for you.
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