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May 20, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 20, 2008, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 Podcast.
Well, how kind can you possibly be?
Hi.
Welcome everybody.
I'm Mark Davis, WBAP Dallas Fort Worth, filling in for Rush Limbaugh today.
Rush is back tomorrow.
So what shall we do today on this Kentucky and Oregon primary day?
It's for those people in those states and would love to hear from those folks at 1-800-282-2882.
Love to hear from all of you at 1-800-282-2882 about Kentucky and Oregon.
How are you feeling?
Folks in the bluegrass state.
You are going to deliver for Hillary Clinton a big, probably two to one 60 30-ish win.
That will probably be the fuel that she will take to propel herself for another another day, another hour, another week, maybe another two, in this race that refuses to end.
How do you folks feel in Oregon?
Well, y'all made your uh your affinity for Barack Obama quite clear the other day, showing up uh to the tune of seventy some thousand when Barack Obama looks at a crowd and says, Wow, it must be big.
And it was.
It was huge.
It was the biggest campaign appearance by anybody of any type in this young campaign.
I know it's admittedly young campaign season.
The campaign season is young because it is about to morph from its adolescence here in the uh pre-convention stage to the general election fight that we face during September and October in the first couple of days of November, election day, of course, November 4th.
And it looks by all accounts as if that will indeed be Barack Obama facing John McCain.
But this is kind of interesting.
One of the reasons that I uh I sit tingling with anticipation for Rush's return.
Tomorrow is what exactly are those next marching orders for Operation Chaos?
What do you really, really do during a week when I don't know about you, you can tell me, but my thought is that this is the first week.
And like many talk show hosts, uh I have looked at Hillary and said, stay in.
Not just be not just for Operation Chaos reasons, although that's certainly worthy, but uh just because I I don't like people to bail, whether it's my party or the other party, uh until they are just mathematically eliminated.
I mean, I was fine with Mike Huckabee nipping at John McCain's heels while there was still people who had an opportunity to vote for him and have that vote mean something.
I I'm good with that.
Stay in until you're absolutely mathematically done.
Your football field doesn't leave the team, uh leave the field, your team doesn't leave the field uh if you're if you're down 35-7 with eight minutes left.
You could argue that maybe they should, but you don't.
You stay until you're absolutely and completely done.
Now, that might be the end of the primary season, which is what, June 3rd, after Montana and South Dakota, where the candidates have been spending some time these last few days.
Or it could arguably be over if if enough superdelegates announce their intentions.
Uh it it could be over metaphorically speaking or symbolically speaking, uh, within a few days after Kentucky and Oregon.
All depends on what happens in Kentucky and Oregon.
So what's going to happen?
Let me lay out my thought and you uh share yours with me, and then we'll talk about some of the themes that are surrounding these very interesting days on the campaign trail.
Barack Obama controls so much of the news cycle now.
He is he is the news.
Hiller, every time I see Hillary on television now, she just seems so irrelevant.
And that was as recently as her West Virginia win.
I didn't feel that way.
After she won West Virginia big and had that curious yet largely accurate observation about uh resonating with working class white people.
Oh, just let John McCain put hardworking and white people in the same the same sentence, the same paragraph, the same speech.
Let him do that and and watch for the invitations to the crucifixion to be issued very soon.
But Hillary got away with it, and largely because she was right.
It is working class whites who are the uh the ballast in her tanks.
Now, Kentucky's filled with hard working white people, and Oregon, I'm sure has uh did share as well, but she's gonna win Kentucky huge, and he will win Oregon probably moderately, meaning it's another standoff.
and she needs more than that.
So the headlines tomorrow will be another split decision, and it's time for her to go.
And for the first time, I will probably agree with that.
It it seems like she's the dinner guest that just doesn't know that the party has ended.
Now there may be other orders that are that are in Russia's vest pocket when he comes back from his uh his two days off as to what I exactly what Operation Chaos should do, so I stand ready to listen with you tomorrow for what those uh what those concepts might be.
But just when I after I'd seen the Sunday chit chat shows, your meet the press, your Fox News Sunday, you face the nation, your McLaughlin group, your things like that.
After I'd seen all those, it it just seemed different.
I mean, Hillary's been all but mathematically done for a month.
But I've always I've been I've been waiting, as has she, for something else to come out about Obama.
And I said a number of times on my show down here in Texas, I said, look, there's there's one huge reason why she should not get out just yet.
And that is that this is the Clinton machine.
These are masters at personal destruction.
If there is something to find about Barack Obama, if there is a skeleton bone in that closet, if there is a molecule of dirt that can be found that would be disqualifying, disturbing, disquieting, a deal breaker for even the Democratic base electorate, for the primary voters who have so fallen in love with him.
If if there's something to be found, the Clinton machine will find it.
Because again, they are masters of personal destruction.
Well, I'm here in the crickets, aren't you?
If it hadn't been found yet, it must not exist.
Now that doesn't mean we got nothing.
Please, I still consider Barack Obama to be unelectable.
He is an inexperienced radical black man.
That's it.
Need I say more?
Now, inexperienced, that might be the biggest obstacle.
Because by and large, we like our presidents to have been around for a little while where they're observable and can be vetted, and we feel like they kind of know how Washington works.
As much fun as the Ross Perot or Steve Forbes, which I kind of enjoyed, those little flights of fancy, as much fun as those can be.
We generally, as a country, here's the dirty little secret, we like our presidents to actually have a little political experience, probably a little more than uh than Barack Obama has.
Radical, there is the big problem.
Uh Jeremiah Wright, uh William Ayers, etc., etc., etc.
Uh, even as Democrats go, Barack Obama seems like a um uh uh a reincarnation of of sixties radicalism in a better suit.
And then we get to, ah, yes, the black guy part of this.
I don't care that Barack Obama's a black guy.
Uh I if I could wave a wand and make JC Watts president of the United States tomorrow, I would do it.
And last time I checked, that was a black guy.
He is a conservative, died in the wool, reliable, troop loving, tax lowering government spending cuttings, social issues, conservative, and the who I'm sure you have some familiarity with, the former congressman from Oklahoma, and uh v uh let me go somewhere else.
One of my my genuine heroes in life, Clarence Thomas.
Last time I checked, black guy.
And not only do I not care that these guys are African American, it makes them particularly heroic for me because they have come from communities where believing things they believe will get you ostracized.
So I think most of you join me, most of you, in not caring whether your presidential candidate is black or female.
Most of you.
What is the percentage of people who care?
What is the percentage of people for whom a black president is just a deal breaker?
Ten percent?
Six, three, twelve?
I don't know, but whatever it is, in a close election, that's a killer.
And Hillary would have faced the same thing.
What's the percentage of Americans who simply will never vote for a woman for president?
I think it's probably higher because a lot of those people are women.
And they're not uh, you know, self loathing misogynists, they're just folks who have I I've taken, and it's funny because just about my whole career is in the Southeast and Southwest, and I don't know if this is just a women from down here kind of thing, but many is the time I'll get a call from a woman, whether I was working in Jacksonville, Florida, Memphis, Tennessee, or here in the Dallas Fort Worth area, and they'll say, Mark, I was all about women's rights and uh I love women and respect women.
I am a woman, they'll tell me.
But right offhand, presidency of the United States?
Uh no way, buddy.
No way.
I'll ask them why.
And they'll say that they just consider the female and male disposition to be different.
And the female disposition and way of looking at life and the attributes that womanhood brings to the human table are so precious and so sacred and so valuable, but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily congruent with being the leader of the free world.
Now that might sound Neanderthal to you.
It might sound incredibly sexist, except it's women saying it.
So, you know, figure that out however you like.
I was watching Geraldine Ferraro this morning on the Today Show, uh being uh spoken to by Meredith Vieira and Geraldine Ferraro thinks that Hillary's been clari Clinton's been treated with horrible, horrible uh sexism.
And I just think that's that's a load.
I don't believe that for a minute.
Hill Hillary Clinton hasn't been treated like a woman.
You know she's been treated like a front runner.
It was not so very, very long ago that she was the pr not just the presumed nominee, but the presumed president of the United States.
Is wasn't that Dick Morris's flavor of the month back there?
You know, Dick, I change my mind and write a book about it every two min uh every two months, Morris, and I like Dick.
Think's a fascinating guy, I love him a lot.
But Dick Morris went from she's the next president to it's over to it's not over yet.
I mean, please.
He's a human weather vein.
But anyway, back in those times when Dick Morris and others were looking at the inevitability of Hillary's ascendancy, that's what makes you someone that people go after.
If you're on top, people are going to try to topple you.
So it wasn't her gender that made her the target of this.
It was the the size of the caliber of the candidacy that she brought to the table.
If John Edwards had been the front runner, they'd have been going after him with exactly the same vigor.
So this notion that it was sexism that that created this aggressiveness toward her and the media have been sexist toward her, no.
Or that voters and an analysts have been sexist toward her.
No.
They just figured out they don't like her.
They figured out they like Obama better.
Lord knows that's true in the media, and it's apparently true across Democrat America.
So there we are.
And that storyline probably continues now after Kentucky and Oregon returns are in tonight.
But as we progress today, hop on with your calls at 1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
And we're going to talk about some of the things that are being talked about already that could very well be foreshadowing to the Obama versus McCain battle royal.
The notion of talking to our enemies.
A great deal has been made of this.
Maybe you have friends of yours, you're sitting around a coffee table, bar, dinner, water cooler, and they tell you, hey, we talked to China.
We talked to Russia.
We've spoken with North Korea recently, so what could be wrong with talking to our most evil of enemies?
Well, the fact is there's a million miles of difference between talking to those enemies I just mentioned and talking to Hitler Jr. in Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and I'll be glad to go into that in some detail.
Also, is the wife fair game?
Used to be that a first lady was an adornment.
You always wanted the president to be married to a really nice woman, and usually they have been.
It is Hillary herself who made the first lady position, unelected though it is, very, very important and vital.
As such, that changed everything.
Potential first ladies, especially when they get out of the campaign trail, are absolutely fair game now, and it's time Michelle and Barack Obama learned that.
I'll have some details on that.
And a number of other things.
Let's just get her going.
1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in George W. Bush's Texas, at least I think it still is, right here on the Rush Limbaugh Show, and more to come on the EIB network.
On the Rush Limbaugh Show, I'm Mark Davis, filling in from deep in the heart of Texas.
Great to have you here.
1-800-282-2882, and let's hop to those calls here in just a moment.
I mentioned That I would give you a second or two of thoughts on the big topic of the moment talking to our enemies.
All right, let's talk about talking.
From childhood, we're told that the first step of conflict resolution is a nice chat.
Got disagreements with your parents, talk it out.
Bumpy times with your peers, talk it out.
And the willingness to address problems through discussion can be absolutely the sign of a very mature and well adjusted child.
It can also be the sign of a dangerously naive adult, especially if that adult seeks to be the leader of the free world.
President Bush may or may not have sought to target Barack Obama with his comments last week in Israel about appeasing the most dangerous world regimes.
He could just as easily have been talking about other past or present Democrats, Jimmy Carter, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, whatever.
But Senator Obama chose to respond the following day as if President Bush called him out by name.
Actually it was John McCain who called him out by name, and this created the first major foreign policy tangle between the candidates likely to be squaring off in uh in November.
So was the President smart to make a point to the Israeli Parliament that seemed to be a dig at Obama?
Was Senator Obama smart to presume that he was the target of President Bush's words and strike back as quickly as he did?
Is Senator McCain helped by casting some attention on an issue where his credentials just tower over Senator Obama's, or is he hurt by serving as what did somebody call it, the wingman to to President Bush whose approval numbers are hemorrhaging by the day?
Let's start it at the game.
President Bush's comments were no different than things he's been saying for years.
Anyone should know that he does not favor granting the prestige of the highest level of talks to the world's most evil and unrepentant leaders.
All right?
Anybody paying attention has heard him say this multiple times.
Timing is everything, though, and he had to know that those remarks at that time would be construed as a jab at Barack Obama in particular and Democrats in general.
So I mean that's fine, because in both cases, the charges are accurate.
The overwhelming truth of the President's words.
You know how you could tell how how big a truth he had told?
Because it was just underscored by the protesting cries and wails of offended Democrats, Barack Obama included, they issued the kind of belly aching that can only come from people whose oxen have been gored, you know, with surgical precision.
There's a reason why Senator Obama and his party are perceived as soft on terror.
It's because they are.
So the question has come from Democrats for years, and you're hearing it from all of them now.
What's wrong with talking to your enemies?
What's wrong with talking?
Well, it's a question with an answer, and this answer had better start coming from the McCain camp sooner rather than later.
It's because talking to a Hitler starter kit like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not like reaching out to the bully who wanted your lunch money in the fifth grade.
The left does not get that every tyrant on earth lives for a photo op with the American president.
To give that honor to lunatics like uh Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, uh terrorists like Ahmadinejad, communist dictators like Kim Jong il in North Korea, to just give them that honor without conditions would be a blunder of global proportions.
I mean, how would those talks go?
Uh hi, uh would you please stop preparing to nuke Israel?
Uh excuse me, um uh uh Kim.
Could you stop launching missiles toward Los Angeles?
We talk a lot about childlike innocence these days, don't we?
Childlike innocence is too rare in our children and apparently too common in some of our politicians.
Top level talks should be floated as a motivator to misbehaving nations to change their ways.
Now that doesn't mean they always will.
Life has no guarantees, but at least you haven't squandered the prestige of the presidency to pay for a meaningless boast that says, at least we talked, at least we talked.
Now, smart or not smart for Senator Obama.
While he probably won a few more superdelegates and maybe some more votes in Kentucky and Oregon by rising up to taunt uh President Bush and John McCain on this issue and looking tough, the short-term benefit is soon going to give way to a to a long-term problem.
Because Barack Obama, very soon is going to have to make that perpetually outstretched global olive branch.
He's going to have to make that look like a good idea to an entire country, not just a Democrat voter base in the primaries that has grown comfortable with the pacifism of the Democratic Party.
So there are a couple of words let's talk about talking.
And let's talk about it together at 1-800-282-2882 when we come back in a moment on the excellence of broadcasting network.
1-800-282-2882, 1-800-282-288-2.
Rush back with you tomorrow.
And again, since since Kentucky and Oregon are are pretty well going to go the way we've just discussed, I mean, if anybody thinks otherwise, and we actually are heading to Kentucky here in just a moment, uh, it's going to be a huge win for Hillary there, meaningless, but huge, and a decent enough size win for Obama in Oregon that he'll be able to say, Look, I've got the majority of pledged delegates.
Uh I've got uh more superdelegates than she does.
Come on, it's a done deal.
Let's go, I'm your guy.
Uh he will then probably stop talking about her completely and start focusing on his likely nemesis, John McCain, and um and that will pretty well be it.
Which leads me to a question that I know you probably have in the Limbaugh audience, and that is what exactly does Operation Chaos do from here?
Where exactly does it go when it really this week looks like the writing is indeed drying on the wall.
Well, Rush will have those answers for you, and he'll have them for you tomorrow.
What we have right now is a board full of calls, so let's go.
And why not go first to the state, one of the states that has uh some voting action going on today, and that is Bob in Lexington, Kentucky.
Proud to have you on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Bob, hello, how are you?
I'm very well, Mark.
Thank you very much.
Small business owner Ditto's from the Bluegrass State.
Uh my comment is with regard to uh Hillary.
I listened to one of her campaign speeches from yesterday, and she brings up the point that she is leading in the popular vote, and I think that's her last best straw that she's holding on to as far as staying in this fight.
And my wish of wishes is that she win by 7030 or better in uh the state of Kentucky, and God willing she'll pull out uh either a near victory or a slight victory in Oregon, propelling she and Obama to a final fight at the convention,
which I hope would then ensure uh that John McCain, I hasten to use the word Republican, but nonetheless, John McCain wins and prevents us from having universal health care, which you and I will pay for for uh once that genie's out of the bottle, I'm afraid it would be out of the bottle forever.
Those are extremely wise motivations, Bob.
Thanks for sharing them.
Let's evaluate for a second the likelihood of of what you've described.
A 70-30 win, I mean a thumping, a country thumping, a worse than West Virginia thumping by Hillary in Kentucky.
Maybe, maybe.
In fact, I'd think it's a little more likely if she could have bought her way onto the news the last four or five days.
As it is, this entire past weekend has been about Obama taking on Bush and McCain, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama.
I mean, I I think the only time I saw Hillary on TV was some file footage on something unrelated.
I mean, it was just hard to find her, and so it's thus hard to imagine her with that kind of resounding eye-opening win.
Sixty something, thirty-something, may you know, sixty-something, twenty-something, maybe, but seventy-thirty.
Wow, I don't know.
The win in Oregon, good luck with that.
Uh I don't know, you know, Obama, maybe listen, maybe I was too swept away by that incredible venue of the 72,000 screaming Obama maniacs out there in uh in Portland.
Maybe maybe I was too swept up in that.
Maybe that was video that uh that just is stuck to my brain.
But more and more more than not, I think that's just emblematic of how much the Oregon Democrat probably loves him, the the the creature that is the Oregon Democrat, which is among the most liberal of all Democrats.
This is not a Texas Democrat.
Down here in my state, we have Democrats that are more conservative than some New England Republicans.
So I the real stretch is the Hillary win in Oregon.
Good luck with all that.
Now, but I have good news because either way, either way, there could be consternation and bad blood lasting.
And isn't that after all what we're what we're looking for here?
That's that's what Operation Chaos has been about.
It's not about furthering any one candidate over another.
Rush hasn't been telling you to go vote for Hillary because we really want her to be the nominee.
No, it doesn't matter who the nominee is.
The idea is soften up the nominee and occupy enough of the nominee's time and talent and energy so that it is an easier ride for the curious candidacy of John McCain.
So with that in mind, here's where things might get a little squirrely.
I've always wondered if indeed we keep things in turmoil and keep them in turmoil all the way to Denver.
All the way to the Democrat convention the last week of August.
Yeah, there's turmoil.
Yeah, there could be some some blood on the walls.
Yeah, there could be some infighting, but you know what else you're gonna have?
The most watched Democrat convention in the history of television.
And while there will be some duking it out, some internessing squabbling, there will also be zillions of Americans sitting there watching a bunch of Democrats saying Democrat things.
And that's what the conventions are these days.
The conventions long ago stopped being a real nominating event.
Nominees are figured out way back down the road, almost every year, except for this one.
I mean, it's the way it's been for probably most of the time you've been alive.
What the conventions are these days are big infomercials.
Now, and I don't say that derisively, because I'll be in Denver, I'll be in Minneapolis for the Republicans.
I've, you know, I was in Boston and uh New York in 04 for and it's always fun and it's always great because it's always interesting to put your finger on the pulse of where a party thinks it is uh in the summer, the late summer, early fall of an election year.
What message do they want to put forth?
Whom do they want to put on the podium?
Of course, in 2004, the f I will never forget, standing there at the Fleet Center in Boston watching Barack Obama.
And we looked at those of us who are, you know, conservative talk show hosts, looked at each other and said, Uh-oh.
And we wondered.
We wondered if this guy could actually get the nomination.
Well, now we know.
But even at that time, I remember saying, we don't know who this guy is.
And he is still black, by the way.
Which, again, to offer our our own enlightenment credentials 500 times during the show doesn't matter to me.
I don't care.
Uh Barack Obama's blackness does not make him any more fearsome or any less desirable as a president of the United States for me.
Nope, it's his radical ideas, the mysteries of his past, and the ill wisdom that he has already shared.
That's my problem with Barack Obama.
So he stood there at the Fleet Center in 2004 and wondered about this guy's future.
And in that regard, the Democrat convention that year served a great purpose for the Democratic Party, not just in saying, hey, here's our guy John Kerry, but also telling us sort of where it stood and and who its up and coming stars might be.
Now, in Denver, the Democrat convention this year, to have zillions of people watching that who wouldn't otherwise be watching it, I'm sorry, that can't help but accrue to the benefit of the Democrat nominee, whoever it winds up being.
Even if there is blood on the walls, even if there is a lot of tension.
We love tension.
You know, so it's been fun.
And listen, the operation chaos thing is great, and Russia's been right to prolong this, and I think it has had a deleterious effect on whoever the uh the Democrat nominee winds up being.
But don't underestimate two things.
And this is something we'll have to deal with once it is McCain versus Obama, you know, once the both conventions are over and it's September 5th or whatever day it is after they're all done.
The two things we'll have to deal with is zillions of people will have seen the Democrat convention, and the Democratic Party will have healed.
It absolutely will have healed.
All this notion is, oh, 30% of the uh Hillary voters won't vote for Obama.
Oh yes, they will.
Maybe Geraldine Ferraro won't.
Maybe Bill and Chelsea won't.
The rest of you will, if you're listening in Democrat America, and I know you are.
Uh look, realistically, mathematically, it won't be twenty-five or thirty-five percent.
Maybe four or five, six percent of Democrat voters will be will have will have their drawers in so much of a wad that they will simply refuse to vote uh for their former rival.
And in a close election, maybe that's a killer.
And maybe that's why retroactively all of this turmoil has been, you know, a good thing for John McCain.
All right, listen, to show equal time, let us head to Minnesota, where the Republican convention will be held.
I believe technically in St. Paul and not Minneapolis.
Let us all recall that it is in fact St. Paul that is the proud state capital.
And Chuck, you are there, and it's nice to have you.
Mark Davis filling in for Rush on the EIB network.
Well, Mark, thank you very much for taking my call and uh and letting me vent here a little bit because I, you know, hear about Barack Obama's um uh big gathering at Portland, and then I listened to National Public Radio, and they characterize the people of Oregon as quote unquote more progressive.
Um I and I just want to absolutely throw up at that term, Mark.
You need to help get out the word as to what really progressiveness uh pro the progressive movement is in America.
It is liberalism with amnesia.
It is it is basically just uh forgetting all of the lessons of the past regarding policies and their failures and just pretending they never happened.
It is not a progressive movement, it is a regressive movement.
It's back to the future, and we really need to educate people as to what's going on, and in terms of operation chaos, I would say that's maybe the best thing that could happen is start educating these uh these uh people who call themselves progressive, they just don't want to vote for Hillary because they view it's old liberal, it's not progressive.
Right, it's it depends on who's using the term, and Chuck, your your your lexicon laser is aimed exactly right, and and thank you.
Uh first of all, you know what progressive is?
It's code language.
Uh when when someone is saying progressive, it's because they don't want to say liberal.
I'm gonna say something right now.
You ready?
Repeat after me if you are of a mind to do so.
I am proud to be conservative.
Ready, go.
I am proud to be conservative.
Very good.
That feel good?
Sure it did.
Now, if you are liberal, repeat after me.
I am proud to be liberal.
Hello.
Hello.
Why why why aren't you you know why aren't you why aren't you saying that?
It's because they know that it's kryptonite.
They know that the L word has stigma.
It has stigma for a reason.
And that's why they had to invent a new word, a synonym, and that synonym is progressive.
Chuck, thanks.
My best everybody in Minnesota can't wait to see your neck of the woods come the first week of September there for that Republican convention.
I'm Mark Davis, fill it in for Rush.
Be right back on the EIB network.
Well, you think Rob Thomas is glad that he hung out there for a couple of days in the studio with Carlos Santani.
Do you think they're thinking they're pleased with the way that uh that turned out?
Oh my heavens.
Hi, Mark Davis filling in for Rush Limbaugh.
Let's see where we'd like to go next.
Let us head to Orlando.
Ralph, Mark Davis in for Rush on the EIB network.
Nice to have you, sir.
Hey Ralph.
Uh go ahead.
Go right ahead, sir.
I'm sorry.
Um your comment about the Democratic Party gonna heal after the convention is done.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I I think there's a possibility that it's not.
I think, you know, I I've listened to Rush for my dad turned him on back in the eighties and everything, and and uh eight-member Republican Party, so we listen to it all the time.
But I have come up with a scenario, and uh, and if Rush was on, I would ask him, what do you think the real possibility is that she, Hillary Clinton, will be the Democratic Ross Perot.
She's gone from being on Mount Everest as the shoe and Democratic nominee to being humiliated When you really look at it by this guy who has no experience, come in one, you know, first time in office and everything, and he literally has just become the darling child, and everybody has run off and abandoned her.
And I I can see that with her husband and her being so self-centered, and the legacy that Bill left was not the best, you know, it's it's a joke of a legacy in in a lot of cases.
And the humiliation that it would add for her losing from being up on top.
I don't think they can really take it.
And the and how would they ever recover from that?
What is left for her after that?
So by the next parot, by the next borough, do you mean she would launch an independent candidacy this year?
Yes.
All right, here's why the here's why the chances of that, here's why the chances of that are zero, and then I'll give give it right back to you.
Number one, even if she fails, which her independent candidacy absolutely would fail, she has to go back and be the Democrat senator from New York, and by absolutely handing John McCain a landslide, which her dividing the Democratic Party that way would do, she would have burned every bridge and rendered herself virtually powerless.
Second reason is since empty revenge is not what the Clintons are about, power is.
What's her best route to power?
Go ahead and give this fight up, because it's largely over.
See if McCain actually wins, and then give have the biggest, I told you so, in history, and run again in 2012, which is really just a hiccup of time away.
What do you think?
That's a possibility, but I I think sometimes Bill Clinton's own revengeful thing.
Um she would definitely go down in the history books for running a third party on a much bigger note than anything she could ever do, and bringing it up.
Except except you know what you need to do that?
Uh Perot is a great example.
Money.
And she doesn't have any anymore.
So there's nothing more fun than third party talk.
And I listen, I get it too.
As soon as McCain was the nominee, first thing I thought was, wow, is it time for real conservatives to cough up a real conservative candidate?
And the short answer to that is no, because he'd get his clock cleaned, it would be an embarrassment.
Uh appreciate it.
Thank you very, very much, sir.
She will not run as an independent uh 2012.
Turn your heads and it will be 2012.
And for that reason, let me suggest to you what I was talking about a couple of minutes ago, that uh that John McCain may wind up doing us a bit of a favor here.
Let's find will will we have McCain Light as his running mate, or will he give us uh a good fiscal conservative like Mitt Romney, a good social conservative like Mike Huckabee, uh maybe God forbid somebody who is both, uh, and and then just serve one term.
Or, and excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, I wish Senator McCain a long and happy life.
Uh he could die during that first term.
John McCain's vice presidential pick simply is going to be the 45th president of the United States unless something really wacky happens.
So uh think about that.
And you know, with that so though with a GOP in horrible turmoil and Republicans and conservatives all wondering what are we going to do, you know, if we can weather this McCain presidency, which may be a little more pleasant than some of us think that it's going to be, we may have the conservative president of our dreams before before before you know it.
Think about that.
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Mark Davis filling in for Rush, and we'll be right back.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show, and I promise you tomorrow, Rush will be hosting it.
For now, though, I'm Mark Davis, filling in from WBAP Dallas Fort Worth, pleasure to be here with you.
And speaking of you, let's give you more time on the phones than the rest of this hour provides.
We've got a scoot here in less than a minute.
So let me just share one little snapshot that I had last night, and I know you're having a similar experience.
Some things transcend politics, some things transcend global politics.
And in Myanmar, former Burma and China, we have regimes that we really disagree with over lording over people who are genuinely hurting, hurting so horribly.
And I know that just as this Christians or whatever faith, as human beings, our hearts go out to them.
But one of the really sad stories was out of China.
And ABC had a story where so many families have lost everything in terms of their kids because they only have one child.
They call it the only children policy.
That was the forced abortion policy.
And it's time to speak truth to evil, even if it's right before the Olympics.
So maybe they're rethinking that in China as we wish them the best as they go through what they're going through post-earthquake.
I'm Mark Davis in Farush, and we'll continue in just a few moments.
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