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April 8, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 8, 2008, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Greetings, my friends, and welcome back.
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Rush Limbaugh program here on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Oh, this reminds me.
This story has hit the drive-bys in their media coverage.
Perhaps you've seen this.
If you haven't, I'll inform you briefly and then give the appropriate commentary.
There's an outfit out there that researches radio ratings, and it's called the Coleman Associates.
I think it's what John Coleman's a guy.
I don't know him.
I've never met him.
But radio ratings are undergoing a little bit of a revolution.
They've always been done by those of you who have participated in them with diaries.
It's a diary you fill out what you listen to, you send it back, and they calculate it all.
They're rolling out something that'll make it more equivalent to television numbers.
You know, Nielsen has a box on certain number of Americans' televisions, and that's where TV ratings come from.
They've come out with this thing called a portable people meter, and they find people in right now.
They're rolling it out in New York, Houston, and Philadelphia.
And people wear the portal people meter, and it is programmed to know exactly what they're listening to.
They can't fudge it.
And this data, it started in New York in the fall and in Philadelphia and Houston in the falls.
This guy Coleman has been doing a lot of research on my numbers in New York, Philadelphia, and Houston on a portable people meter.
And he issued his findings at what he called a webinar, a seminar on the web on his website to explain the findings.
And the drive-bys have focused on one thing.
And the research is, actually, it's kind of stunning.
But the drive-bys have focused on one thing.
There's something that they don't understand.
The audience is like one-tenth of 1% higher during commercial breaks than it is during the content portion of the program, which for our sponsors and advertisers is just huge news.
I mean, this has raised the rates time.
We already charged confiscatory rates and they're going up because of this.
But what they are saying, the way the drive-bys are reporting this is funny as hell.
They are saying Limbaugh's ratings are higher when he is not speaking.
Now, the research attributes this to the fact that people are just, they're tuning in during commercial breaks because they don't want to miss the beginning of a segment.
They don't want to miss the beginning of each hour.
The drive-bys have taken this.
The New York Times, the New York Daily News, a couple others have taken this.
Why, my gosh, Limbaugh's numbers during commercials are even higher than his show.
And he's not even speaking it wrong.
Oh, my friends, as you well know, I speak during the commercial breaks.
What it is a testament to, if the research is accurate, is the deep bond of loyalty that you and I have and that you are profoundly interested in what is happening during commercial breaks on this program because they're part of the program.
Now, I'm not going to great detail about this because to do so would give away secrets that no other host has figured out here.
But it's just funny.
If you see this reported, the drive-bys are taking the occasion to say the ratings of this show are higher when I'm not speaking.
That is their takeaway on this.
But they've totally missed the importance of what it all means.
100% totally missed it, which is good because the more under the radar you can keep the business model, the better off you are.
It's like a marketing plan.
You don't come up with a marketing plan and tell everybody what it is because that prepares them for it.
You just execute the plan, which is what we do here on a daily basis.
I want to go back.
I want to touch on this Senator McCain thing one more time.
Yesterday, we had a story that Senator McCain and the Republicans are eager in their outreach program to Democrats and independents.
And today we have a story.
This is from Reuters out of Chicago.
Republican presidential candidate McCain has spoken out about lavish pay packages for corporate CEOs.
But his top advisor said yesterday that the senator wants to shine a light on the issues, not offering specific new proposals to rein it in.
Now, every time we get a story like these two, yesterday and today on Senator McCain, and I mention them, Snerdley gets inundated with phone calls from people who don't want to go to me, tell him to stop criticizing our candidate.
Tell him to stop criticizing McCain.
Folks, what am I supposed to do here?
Am I just supposed to ignore this stuff?
And everybody says, Rush, you are the leader of the conservative movement.
You must bring conservatives.
That's what I'm trying to do here.
But it's not my job to get anybody elected here.
What am I supposed to do when the Republican presidential candidate starts saying things like, I can't wait to reach out to Democrats.
I want to bring as many of them in as possible.
And we're going to start shining a light on CEO pay, especially when there's nobody in this government.
Maybe a couple own businesses.
Herb Cole owns some grocery stores in the Milwaukee Bucks.
There are, you know, Frank Lautenberg.
I don't know if he still has interest in it, but he had, what was that?
That Auto ATP, the payroll processing outfit.
I think it was the Louts.
Yeah.
But most of them, I mean, look at the way they run the government for Crying Out Loud.
If those who own businesses would run various government programs with the same oversight they run their businesses, then we might have had a social security reform by now.
We might have had FEMA that works.
You know, we might have a war on poverty that actually could claim victory somewhere along the line.
But it just irritates me.
I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
Well, I do know what I'm doing.
I'm asking you rhetorically when I say, what am I supposed to do here?
Just ignore it.
By the way, I said that our video machines were rolling on Hillary Clinton's questioning of Senator Petraeus, or General Petraeus, and that we would have appropriate sound bites.
Well, we don't have any appropriate sound bites because there was nothing worth recording and passing on to you with Mrs. Clinton's appearance.
She was boring.
She just read Petraeus' own quotes back to him and drowned on and on and on.
There were no fireworks.
She was very subdued.
Folks, if we could find, if we could find one highlight, we would give it to you.
But there wasn't a highlight.
It was Snooze City, which in and of itself is somewhat fascinating.
Here's Mrs. Clinton with an opportunity here to shore up her creds as anti-war.
Remember, she got in trouble last time.
It was the last time, seven months ago, Petraeus was here.
We got the New York Times ad, General Petraeus, and it was Hillary who said that we had to have a willing suspension of disbelief in order to believe what Petraeus said, even before he said anything.
That's when the Democrats are all calling him a liar before he had said a thing and accused him of having his report written by President Bush.
It's far different this time.
The message from the Democrats in the Petraeus hearings today is: look, pal, you got till November.
And then when we take over, it's a new ballgame.
I mean, that's the essence of what they've said.
They haven't said that in so many words.
Random thoughts column by Thomas Sowell today.
I love Professor Sowell's random thoughts column.
Some people actually think that televising Congress gives us information.
What it really does is give politicians millions of dollars worth of free advertising while they play charades on camera to fool the rest of us.
Senator John McCain could never convince me to vote for him.
Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for John McCain, says Thomas Sowell.
One way to reduce illegal immigration might be to translate some of our far-left publications into Spanish and give everybody in Mexico subscriptions.
After they read how terrible this country is, many may want to stay home.
Is that not great?
Whenever I see one of Barack Obama's smooth performances, it reminds me of a saying from my old neighborhood in Harlem.
An eel is like sandpaper compared to you.
The boy is so slick, he can steal a shortening out of a biscuit without breaking the crust.
That's one of my favorites.
Most people on the right have no problem understanding people on the left because many, if not most, were on the left themselves when they were younger.
But many, if not most, people on the left find it inexplicable how any decent and intelligent person could be on the right.
The same people who have gone ballistic when some prominent figure is found to belong to some all-male social club are full of excuses for why Barack Obama remained a member of a racist and anti-American church for 20 years.
By the way, I got a piece somewhere in the stack here today.
Some liberal somewhere comparing the Reverend Jeremiah Wright to Dr. Martin Luther King.
It's time to paper over that controversy.
It's time to make up and make nice with that church and Reverend Wright, but they're not going to be able to.
As I said yesterday, you go out to flyover country.
You get away from these elite capitals on the east coast of the left coast.
You go out to where, you know, flyover country or the people who make the country work live.
This is, this is, they haven't forgotten the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and they won't.
1968, that's the Rolling Stones.
You can take it out, Ed.
The time is right for violent revolution.
Hopefully, we will be able to use this as a theme for what happens in Denver.
By the way, this is from Reuters.
British physicist Peter Higgs said on Monday, it should soon be possible to prove the existence of a force which gives mass to the universe and makes life possible as he first argued 40 years ago.
Higgs said he believes a particle named the Higgs boson, which originates from the force, will be found when a vast particle collider at the CERN Research Center on the Franco-Swiss border begins operating fully early next year.
By the way, it is this vast particle collider at the CERN Research Center that they say could replace the internet with speeds so fast that you'd be able to download a high-definition movie, a two-hour high-definition movie in three seconds.
They're going to use a particle collider, particle accelerator, and collider for it.
The likelihood is that the particle will show up pretty quickly.
I'm more than 90% certain that it will, Higgs told journalists.
In other words, he's looking for a God particle.
He's looking for a particle to prove God.
Mr. Higgs, Dr. Higgs, please just look out the window, Dr. Higgs.
You see that tree?
You see the grass?
Whatever's outside your window, all of it, God particles.
Every aspect of it is God particles.
The 78-year-old's original efforts in the early 60s to explain why the force, dubbed the Higgs Field, must exist, were dismissed at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
Today, the existence of the invisible field is widely accepted by scientists, who believe it came into being milliseconds after the Big Bang created the...
There's no way that anybody could possibly know this.
At any rate, scientists at the center hope that the process will produce clear signs of the Higgs boson dubbed the God particle by some to the displeasure of Higgs, who is an atheist.
Naturally.
Naturally, it would be an atheist doing this research.
At any rate, what interests me about this CERN play, well, no, wait, no, no, Mr. Snerdley just said to me there are a lot of physicists who believe in God and they're writing up be very careful.
Ben Stein has a movie coming out that I have screened at my house.
It's called Expelled.
And it's about people, scientists, who are being fired and shunned for their belief in intelligent design.
These are Darwinists.
And they, just for questioning it, just for questioning Darwinism, just for questioning Darwinism, and just for being open to the possibility of intelligent design.
These people fear God.
These scientists, they fear God because God has the answers.
God's smarter than they are.
God's judgmental.
That's one of the things that liberals and atheists hate about religion anyway, is that it's judgmental.
But regardless, I think you'll find some scientists, physicists particularly.
I know of one, I can't remember his name, but it was one old coot who is close to death.
And this goes back a year or two ago, but he'd been a lifelong opponent of the whole notion that anything here was created.
That it was just random and miraculous.
But there was nothing intelligent behind any of this.
And he's finally concluded near his deathbed that an accident can't explain this.
He wouldn't go so far as to say that there's one of these guys in Ben Stein's movie, a guy named Hawkins, who's over at Oxford, I think, Oxford or Cambridge.
Ben Stein goes over and interviews him in this movie, Expelled, by the movie hits April 12th or the 16th.
And he said, can you explain the origins of life with Darwinism?
No, we can't.
Well, actually, we can, but we don't.
Well, Stein then asks him, well, where did all this come from?
The guy actually says, perhaps an intelligent race from outer space landed on our planet gazillions of years ago and got all this rolling.
But there's no way, says Hawkins, it could be God.
There's just no way.
But it might be some people from outer space.
And this guy is an elitist theorist and professor at Oxford and Cambridge.
It's a fascinating movie.
82% of the people in this country believe in God.
41% are Darwinists.
Darwinists more than just believing in evolution.
Darwinists are now a very closed society.
They do not allow anybody to disagree with what they think.
They shun and fire anybody in their midst that is open to anything other than Darwinism.
And Darwinism is, you know, natural selection, survival of fitness, actually eugenics.
You know, Darwinism seeks to get rid of people who are not up to par in any.
They're not, no, Darwinists are not big tent people.
They're not big tent people.
Look at the phones.
We haven't taken a phone call yet.
And people have been patiently waiting.
We'll go to Slido, Louisiana.
This is Gail.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
How are you doing?
Fine, sir.
Thank you for waiting.
Rush, I just want to tell you I'm a little bit nervous.
I'm a little bit angry, but I tried getting through yesterday about you talking about the economy and everything.
And I'm just really, really upset.
I guess you could say I'm a Rush baby.
Pretty much through high school.
I started my own business, and you've been there, but I just don't think the education on this program has stopped.
And I really think that either you don't know, which I don't think that you don't know, being a student of William Buckley, or you're lying to your listeners about what's really happening in the economy.
And I just, you know, I just don't think that you're being very honest.
I think that your audience can handle it.
I think you can tell them the truth about what's really going on.
Well, now, this is interesting.
Why don't you hold on through a commercial break here?
Yes, sir.
Would you be willing, after the commercial break, to pretend to be host, pretend to be me, and you tell them what's really going on with the economy?
Are you sure?
Damn right.
I want to hear what you say.
Okay.
I'm not a Dartwinist.
I don't close out people disagree.
Yeah, hang on.
We'll come right back.
And you can tell the American people what I refuse to tell them.
A man, a living legend, a Nobel Peace Prize nominee, a national treasure, Supreme Commanding General, Operation Chaos.
And we go back to the phones now.
Gail in Slido, Louisiana, claims that I am not telling the audience the truth of the American economy, and I want you to do it.
Okay.
Well, you took a call from some liberal yesterday, and you were given examples of how the stock market's going up, jobs are increasing.
Well, that's all happening because we are manufacturing here, and we've got a wonderful product, and we are exporting that product to really maximum potential.
That product is called a U.S. federal dope.
We are pumping it out so fast, the intervals of which we're pumping it out has gone ballistic.
And the whole problem now is nobody's buying it.
Nobody's buying that note anymore.
And we just keep pumping out more to keep the system alive.
And what you have is I have no doubt that the stock market will go up to 20,000, 50,000, because they're pumping so much money supply into the system.
It has to be.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
So, the truth about the economy is that we're inflating the dollar out the wazoo, and we're all headed for real problems down the road.
And all this is being done to paper over the general weakness of our economy, born of our massive debt.
Yes, sir.
And this is going to result in what?
Paper going to its actual value if, well, all paper.
No, Tell me in terms of people out there listening, what's going to happen to people.
All dollars are going to go to a value of zero.
But what's that going to mean to people who live in this country?
What's it going to mean to them?
Are they going to lose their jobs?
are going to lose their houses?
Are we all going to be...
Is it a Great Depression?
What's coming?
No, no, no.
The Depression was recessionary.
We've actually prevented that.
We haven't really been in a recession since the Great Depression.
We prevented that because the American people can't handle having a few people out of jobs.
The natural course of capitalism wasn't allowed to happen.
The government got involved.
In order to fund all these entitlement programs, they just printed money out of thin air, huge supplies of it.
And now it's increasing at a level I don't think people can fathom.
I mean, I think people really, when they go to the grocery store, they think they're paying high now.
The proper valuation of dollars, if you compare it to, say, around 1970, well, they're going to be looking at $100 milk.
I mean, if that's if you take how many dollars we had then compared to what we have now, the whole problem is these foreigners aren't taking our dollar anymore.
They don't really want our dollar.
You look at Venezuela, Hugo Chavez.
He does not want to start taking the dollar anymore.
That's political, and it's political with the Iranians demanding that the oil, that petroleum, stop being transacted in dollars around the world as well.
Rush, their coffers are stuffed.
They can't even shut their coffers, and it's all filled with U.S. IOUs.
It's filled.
At some point, now you think that I heard you say this yesterday.
Well, they all depend on us.
They're already starting to wean off of us, Rush.
And because you're not telling people, I'm really scared because what am I supposed to tell them?
You still haven't told them what's going to happen to them.
You said $100 milk, what else?
You're talking World War II Germany, World War I Germany.
You're talking about what you think is going to happen.
I'll bet you a wheelbarrow of dollars.
It doesn't happen.
But if it does, guess who's borrowing all this money?
Guess who's paying for all these programs?
I talk about this all the time.
Liberalism.
This is what 50 years of liberalism in a New Deal has spawned.
I don't accept that your circumstances are as dire as you say.
It depends on who you talk to about this.
If you go talk, and I've done this, if you go talk to people who work on Wall Street, all they care about is what's happening on Wall Street, all they care about the next two to three years.
And they are in panic.
They are literally panicked, and they don't care about any other issue.
You know, we could merge with Red China and they wouldn't care as long as somebody does something about what's happening on Wall Street with these banks.
If you go to the farmers and the people who are getting ripped over the coals now on ethanol, you know what the farmers will tell you?
The farmers say, screw you.
You people have been spoiled for all these years with cheap food in America.
Cheap food is not a right.
It's a luxury.
If you go to people who work at Walmart and so forth, you're going to hear a different version of what's going on in the economy.
Now, I stand by what I said yesterday.
And I had a call.
We had a call from Lynn.
It was a crying shame to listen to her talk.
She's been impacted.
She's been affected by all these years of doom and gloom being bombarded at her by media and her Democrat Party and so forth.
And this is this, it runs the risk of becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, all these people thinking doom and gloom about things.
It's maddening how many people in this country want it to fail.
How many people in this country think we deserve to be kicked in the pants because we've been so unfair to the rest of the world around the world?
What I know is you can talk about the dollar, and I know that the dollar is falling against currencies and so forth.
This too is cyclical, and it will come back.
It always does.
The dirty little secret is that the rest of the world can't do without us.
The rest of the world goes as we go.
Take a look if you want to look at the stock market or any which way, manner, or form.
You think we got problems?
Take a look at India.
Take a look at China.
They are advancing.
Their economic situation is improving.
There's no question about it.
But that is giving them all kinds of problems, and that's creating stresses on our economy on the demand side.
This is what happens when more and more people in the world have economic growth and have access to it.
I once told a story here.
Do you know of the, I forget the numbers.
I'd have to go back and look at this.
The number of people in the world out of the roughly 6 billion on the planet that don't have electricity is striking.
It's like 3.5 billion don't have electricity, maybe more.
And if they ever got it, do you realize the pressure on energy sources and prices that would be?
And we face all kinds of stresses, so forth, but we always come out of them.
I've got a little chart here since we're talking about this.
Again, this is from the Heritage Office, and it's based, our Heritage Foundation, based on the Office of Management and Budget Numbers.
And this is the percentage increase in federal spending in nominal dollars 2001 through 2005.
Inflation in those five years was up 12%.
That's prices.
Prices up 12%.
Science, space, and technology up 21%.
Transportation, 20%.
All these are government expenditures, 24%.
Unemployment benefits, 26%.
General government, 32%.
Income security programs, 39%.
Healthcare, 42%.
Community development, 71%.
This is how much prices have risen in these categories from 2001 to 2005.
Housing and commerce, 86%.
International affairs, 94%.
Education, 99%.
So all these government programs, the economy at large, independent of the government, prices have gone up 12%, went up 12% 2001 through 2005.
The government's out of control.
And I don't care whether it's Republicans or Democrats.
There is a liberal orthodoxy that is in charge of government and spending, whether they're printing it, whether they're borrowing it or what have you.
They're out buying vaults.
They are expanding the size of government.
Everything here that Dale Gale just said in his paranoia about debt and the falling dollar and $100 milk down the road, everything that he just said can be tied to the whole concept of liberalism.
Liberalism has brought us to this point.
I don't accept his $100 price of milk as soon as he thinks that at some point milk's going to be $100.
You and I won't be alive, and it'll probably be pretty similar to whatever the value of a gallon of milk is today.
But it is important, I think, for people to understand that attitude, optimism, engaging and understanding how important everybody is to the economy here.
Instead of sitting around and waiting to be affected by things, go make something happen.
Hell, easy for you to say.
I know it's easy to say.
It's always harder to do action than it is to speak.
There's nothing new about that.
But while you're sitting around waiting for somebody else to take action, somebody is in the process of taking action.
And while that's happening, while this economy is going south in everybody's mind, how come it is that a lot of people happen to be prospering?
Most people are paying their mortgages.
Most people say their personal finances are fine.
81% of the country.
It's just that they think everybody else is about to go south.
Anyway, I must take a brief time out here, ladies and gentlemen.
Sit tight.
We'll come back and continue on the EIB network right after this.
Ha, how are you?
Welcome back, Rushlim Boy and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Back to the phones, Clark, New Jersey.
This is Michelle.
Thank you for waiting, Michelle.
Welcome to the program.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi, my name is Michelle, and I'm a first-time caller.
Thank you.
I just wanted to say that I listened to your show.
I think you're very comical.
It's pretty funny to listen to.
Unlike the Hannity show.
I think he's bitter.
Hannity's bitter?
Yeah, I think he's kind of bitter.
But anyway, I think you're pretty funny.
But anyway, I just wanted to say I grew up in Pittsburgh area.
I worked in Pittsburgh once.
Well, I grew up there, and I think Brendell has a point that it was very prejudiced in that area when I grew up there.
And I moved away not that long ago.
Wait just a second here.
Wait a second, Michelle.
Are you saying that Fast Eddie, when he says that Pennsylvania's whites are racist, has got a point?
Yes, very.
I mean, growing up there, I remember moving into the neighborhood where I lived.
Where was that?
I know Pittsburgh.
Where in Pittsburgh do you live?
Well, I don't know if I should say.
You're not there anymore.
They can't do anything to you.
I don't know where Clark, New Jersey, is, so don't worry about it.
Yeah, we moved into New Kensington.
Oh, New Kensington.
Well, you're far enough outside town.
It's no big deal.
Yeah.
But, yeah, we moved into New Kensington back in the early 70s.
That's when I moved to Pittsburgh.
And on a daily basis, we were called black bastards and the N-word.
As we left our house, you know, every single day.
You were called to be aware of that.
Wow.
Yes, daily.
And as we walked home from school, because we were the only at that particular time, because it was segregated, really.
No black families lived there.
And we were actually a really mixed up black family.
We weren't, you know, we came from the Jim Crow days where if you had one ounce of black blood, you were considered black.
So, you know, we had Spanish blood, American Indian blood, black blood, and we were light-skinned.
But it didn't matter.
You know, we were considered, you know, we were black people.
I understand that.
So, you know what I'm saying?
But we were on a daily basis.
I remember going to my high school, wanting to go to my high school prom in 1985.
And if we wanted to go to the prom with a person from a different race, we had to get permission from the school board and permission from our parents.
So, I mean, I.
This was in New Kensington.
1985.
1985.
You can look that up.
I was on the swim team, the diving team, and I remember going into Connellsville.
All right, hang on just a second.
I wanted to somebody Google New Kensington, Senior Prom, 1985, and see what we find about it.
Just kidding, Snerdley, we don't need to look at it.
I trust you.
You're a nice caller.
You think the program's funny.
What's this got to do with Fast Eddie?
Well, I think he's right that Pittsburgh is.
He was talking the whole state plus Philadelphia.
Well, I don't know about Philadelphia, but he does.
He used to live there.
He used to be the mayor.
Now he's the governor.
Well, I've lived all over.
You know, until I moved out of the Pittsburgh area, I mean, I've been into Pittsburgh.
I've been into Youngstown.
You know, I grew up my whole life there.
And until I moved into Seattle, I never knew what it was not to be.
What were you doing moving all over the place?
So why did you settle in Clark, New Jersey?
Because this is where I live now.
Anyway, but for other reasons.
This is impossible.
I am not your dentist.
This is not that hard.
Why did you?
I'm just curious.
You moved around a lot.
There's nothing wrong with Clark, New Jersey.
Don't misunderstand.
Why did you move around a lot?
Well, my ex-husband was in the military.
Oh, well, okay, that explains it.
Yes.
So, I mean, I got to live in a lot of different places.
Three times I had to ask the question.
Well, you know.
Three times.
It just never changes.
What do you find funny about the program?
Well, I find some of your comments a little over the top, you know, when you...
Well, I mean, most of the things I think a lot of it is right.
You know, I wouldn't say I'm a liberal, but I'm not a conservative.
But I think I have a take that people, you know, we have a saying here.
It's called 90-10.
90% of people don't get it, and 10% do.
And you're one of the 10%.
And I'm one of the 10%.
Yeah, you're one of the 10%.
Well, I have to make a comment on the caller that just called in because I agree with you is that, you know, I think people nowadays have a sense of entitlement and they want and they want and they want to get, but they don't want to work.
No question about it.
So that's why they feel that they're not getting ahead because they want what someone else has and instead of living within their means.
And another thing is that a lot of people aren't willing to go out and get the education or be, you know, or retrain.
Time is rolling by here, Michelle, much too fast because I'm enjoying it.
By the way, Michelle is one of my all-time top 10 favorite female names.
I want to know: why are you so reluctant to admit that you're a conservative?
Well, I'm a conservative on certain issues.
No, no, it doesn't work that way.
Yeah, it does work that way.
It does.
Any person or organization who is not conservative, by definition, will be a liberal.
Liberalism is natural.
It's a gutless thing.
All you've got to do is conservatism is an intellectual application.
That's not true.
Yes, it is.
It is not.
I am the leader of the conservative movement, Michelle.
I know what I'm talking about.
No, I think conservatives, I think, you know what I find funny a lot of.
When are you so afraid to say you're a conservative?
I'm afraid to say I'm a conservative.
Well, then why are you afraid to call yourself a liberal?
I can be a liberal on certain issues.
Well, then what are you?
A moderate?
I guess.
No, you have too many opinions to me.
You have had one opinion.
Every sentence that you've uttered has been an opinion.
You are not a moderate.
Well, then I'm an opinionated person.
No, but I'm saying that, like, you can't say that because, okay, you're saying that you don't want the government to be into your life, right?
Okay, so then how is it that people that are conservative and they're pro-life can tell me what to do with my life if they don't want the government?
All right, that's simple.
You should have.
Let me tell you something.
I've got one minute to say this, so you've got to listen to me.
Okay, go ahead.
Conservatives do need government to do certain things, defend us.
But if you go back to our founding documents, Michelle.
Okay.
But that's when it's convenient.
No, Please listen to me.
I know where my syllables are going.
Okay, go ahead.
We are all endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
Declaration of Independence, Michelle.
If the government...
But the same Declaration of Independence and the same forefathers who wrote that are the same people who enslaved some of my people.
They're the same people who put provisions in the Constitution to end it.
The thing is, if the government doesn't stand for life, who will?
But they don't.
That is not.
It's not intruding in your bedroom.
The government stands for life when it's convenient for them.
Michelle, I'm not saying that I'm trolling.
I'm saying that.
The government stands for life when it's convenient.
Michelle, you are smarter than this.
Anybody who says that the founders of the country had slaves and leaves it at that has no comprehension whatsoever of our history.
And that is profoundly sad, but it's a reality we have to deal with.
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