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March 21, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 21, 2008, Friday, Hour #2
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It's the Rush Limbaugh Program.
This is the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, and it is Friday.
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We're gonna be talking for the next couple minutes with uh Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter about his uh new book, Never Give In Battling Cancer in the Senate.
Senator Spector, welcome to the program.
It's nice to have you back with us here.
Rush, uh, thank you very much for the invitation.
A great pleasure to talk to you and your listeners, thanks.
You uh the title of the book, Never Get It Give In, Battling Cancer in the Senate.
You were battling more than cancer in the Senate.
I mean I I want to uh the the book I I've read the summary of the book and it's uh it's uh eleven or fourteen pages here.
Uh it is incredibly detailed about the uh the the uh process you went through when you were diagnosed, I think it was lymph cancer.
But that was not the first health crisis you've had.
You had a brain tumor, am I correct about that?
Uh Rush, uh that's right.
I had a brain tumor.
Uh doctor gave me three to six weeks to live once.
I was really shocked and uh sort of blurted out in the chain of consciousness uh uh happened back in June of ninety-three.
I said, Oh my, my wife and I were gonna go away for the weekend to uh uh celebrate our anniversary, and the doctor uh looked at me and said, uh go and have a good time, believe it or not.
And I thought to myself, Rush, this guy must be crazy.
I said, uh give me my films, I'm going uh to see another doctor.
And uh I had it removed and uh it was benign, and I found out that you couldn't tell for sure uh until you took it out, froze it, sliced it down, and looked at it under a microscope.
So that in telling people this story in my book uh never give in, I want them to know that they uh sometimes need to get a second opinion and not lose hope until they do so.
What year was the brain tumor?
That was nineteen ninety-three.
Yep.
And here we are, fifteen years later.
You were and you you were given three to six weeks.
When uh when was the lymph cancer discovered?
Uh it was discovered uh mid-February of two thousand uh two thousand five.
Two thousand.
Now that was the same year that Peter Jennings was uh discussed with uh or duh uh diagnosed with lung cancer, and he he was going through cancer or treatment, uh uh chemotherapy at the same time you were.
Right.
And I remember Senator Spector uh w once you know he made his uh appearance announcing uh uh to his audience on World News tonight that he had been diagnosed and that he was undergoing treatment.
Uh we didn't know at the time what stage his his lung cancer was, but we knew he was going to be getting uh treatment for it, and he assured the audience he'd be in when he could.
Uh but we never saw him again.
Uh it was his his disease was devastating.
But during the period of time there were people, Ted Coppel friends of his that went to speak to him, and uh and some would come out and quoted him and said that he had so much admiration for you because you were going through chemo at the same time, and you were at work every day, and he didn't understand how you could do it.
Well, uh uh Rush, uh I I wrote him a note and uh told him that I was uh staying on the job, and uh tough as it was to drag myself out of bed, I was doing it, and I urged him to do the same thing.
And uh he uh put on his uh website a thanks for notes that he'd gotten and mentioned me and said uh uh that he uh tried my uh approach, but he simply couldn't do it.
So uh he he he had a tougher time, but uh uh but I I had written to him and he was uh he was a courageous fellow.
My my mother uh had uh uh brain cancer and she was on chemo and it was uh uh debilitating for her too, which is one of the reasons why the uh subject of your book fascinates me.
Would you I uh uh I want people to that when you're in the midst of your treatment, you have lost all your hair.
You're you're you're bald and you're you're in the midst of probably what's the worst time uh in your chemotherapy, and yet you are at work every day and you're at work in the Senate where a lot of things are going on.
You are a member of the Judiciary Committee, uh, plus other committees that you're on.
Would you take people through?
Because you want to inspire people with this book and tell them to hang in that a mental attitude is is as important here as uh getting proper medical treatment.
Yeah, that's right, Rush.
I want them to know that it uh can be done.
Uh uh I know that there are some limits as to what people can do uh physically, uh but when it comes to uh to to uh uh determination and when it comes to mindset, I think that a lot can be done if uh you just uh are determined to uh uh to do it.
Uh and uh you are right.
I was chairing the judiciary committee and we had really tough uh uh tough confirmation hearings, take the confirmation hearing of Justice Alito, for example, uh had a real battle uh uh with the Senator Kennedy right right in the middle of it.
Uh it was a day when I wasn't feeling so hot and uh which was most days.
And uh Kennedy interrupted the questioning, addressed me as chairman and said, uh Mr. Chairman, I move we go into executive session to get a subpoena for the records of uh uh uh Alito with respect to the uh concerned alumni of Princeton.
That was a group uh which uh was uh uh a little uh tough on minorities and women.
And uh I looked at Kennedy and I said, Well, uh Senator Kennedy, if uh you really were sincere about that, uh why why did you wait to make a grandstand play on national television?
Why didn't you mention it when we were talking it in the hall a few minutes ago?
Or or later as I would joke about it in the in the Senate gym, but of course Kennedy hadn't been in the Senate gym since the Johnson administration, right?
Well that th th but this is the point.
You um uh you you're in the midst and and and at that point you're probably at the worst of the chemo.
You had your wits, you had your your sense of purpose about you you were able to muster enough energy.
Would you please I I'm just curious about this myself because I've I saw my mother and I've seen a lot of people, they wake up in the morning and and they just uh they feel so bad physically, they just don't even want to get out of bed.
You got out of bed every day.
What time did you get out of bed?
What time did you get to the Senate?
How long were you there?
When did you get home?
How much sleep a night did you get to Well uh I'll I'll answer all your questions.
Uh uh I've been getting up for a long time at five fifteen to play squash, and uh I got an automatic alarm clock, uh which means I got to go to bed early.
But I'd get up and I'd really drag myself to the squash court.
And sometimes I couldn't play uh uh more than a couple games.
Usually I'd play five or six before but a couple.
Then I'd uh uh really drag myself through a shower, go to the office and uh uh and uh uh uh ha have some hip meetings and maybe a hearing and I'd try to duck out mid morning and uh and take a nap.
Uh and when the when the votes would come I'd have a office close to the floor, a so-called hideaway, I'd go vote and come back and uh uh do as much as resting as I could.
Then mid afternoon I take a uh another nap and uh uh I had meetings and I had hearings.
We had a lot of confirmations.
We confirmed uh uh Bill Pryor and uh uh and uh Janice Rogers Brown and some others, and uh uh I try to get home uh uh early in the evening and be in bed by eight thirty so I could get uh uh sleep from eight thirty to five thirty and get up and start and do it all over again.
Uh I frankly I'm amazed.
Uh there there are days, Senator, I have a cold and and can't do all that, don't want to do all that.
I must you know mush through it, but a cold is not chemotherapy.
I've never experienced chemotherapy, so I don't know.
I've I've seen it in others, but I don't know what other than the nausea and the hair loss, I don't know what it feels like.
Well it's very debilitating.
Uh uh you you you get it and you're sort of uh you're sort of in a stupor.
And uh you get it all I got it on Friday afternoon Friday, so that I could uh uh ha have a little recuperation time in the next uh forty-eight hours.
And uh then I I wouldn't tell I wouldn't take the train.
I was also with my immune system down, I would uh drop have be driven.
And I I'd leave my my house uh early in the morning about uh seven, uh drive to Washington.
Four fortunately I'm close, get there about nine forty five and take a nap.
And uh uh you you just don't you feel like like doing absolutely nothing, uh but you know with a little experience that if you stay in bed you're gonna feel worse.
And if you get up uh well when you have as tough A job as I did uh candidly, uh Kennedy was a great distraction.
And uh uh I wasn't thinking about myself, I was thinking about uh how to deal with the Alito confirmation.
Well that's key, isn't it?
Because that took your mind off your suffering.
Right.
It's it's good it it's good to be busy so you don't think about uh frankly how lousy you feel.
Uh the Alito hearings uh those were filled with fireworks.
Uh Mrs. Alito running out in tears uh over some of I think it was Senator Leahy had uh had had made some comments.
And you were chairing those committee hearings, and I remember people uh were applauding your work then, uh knew that you were suffering, knew that you were uh in the midst of key uh uh chemotherapy.
How long how long were you being treated and how long did it take from the time you discovered you had lymph cancer until they told you that either your cured or in permission or whatever your current condition is.
Well, just just another word about uh Leto, they were trying to get enough traction, Rush, to filibuster.
Uh they felt with the Supreme Court nomination, Kennedy felt he couldn't filibuster unless he got some traction, and if they got him pegged as a member of the concerned alumni of Princeton, uh they thought they could do it.
That they knew we didn't have sixty votes, we ended up with fifty-eight, and they knew we hadn't more than fifty, so they were trying to try to get traction.
But to answer your question directly, I uh was uh diagnosed mid-February and I took uh uh chemotherapy until uh near the uh uh near the end of July.
And uh uh on on uh uh part of those days, right when I was in the middle of the worst of it, we were having meetings with uh the president on scheduling Chief Justice Roberts.
And uh then uh uh when the robbers hearings were on, I had almost no hair.
And uh when Alito came up uh a couple of months later I had uh had a little bit of air.
Uh the picture in the book of you with the president uh when you have no hair, was that the meeting on Roberts that you're referring to?
That's it.
That that's that's the meeting on uh July twenty-first.
Kind of a interesting picture, Rush, as you can see uh uh from the picture of the president's body language is uh uh I sort of I sort of joke about it and think that the president might have been thinking, well, I gotta shake uh Arlan Spector's hand, he's the chairman, but uh uh they say it's not contagious, but who knows?
As you see, it's sort of leaning the other way.
But uh President President uh uh and I uh uh uh have uh gotten to be uh uh good friends over the years.
He's come to Pennsylvania a lot, and when he comes, he likes to uh talk.
He uh invites me to the car on the plane, and uh uh he he was he he he wanted the Roberts hearings finished uh he wanted them started in August.
And I I had to tell him, I said, Mr. President, you're lucky you've never been a senator.
If you bring people back in August, they're gonna be in a foul mood.
I need to get uh I need to get Roberts confirmed.
And after we followed my ideas, uh he was very pleased.
Senator Spector, we got to take a brief commercial time out.
We will continue when we come back, Senator Arlen Spector and his book is Never Give In, Battling Cancer in the Senate.
Stay with us, folks.
Don't we are back, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, and we are talking with uh Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.
His book Never Give In Battling Cancer in the Senate.
Senator, one more question about this in our remaining few minutes.
I want to touch on just two other things involving your uh present business.
Uh you heard uh from from people who have been inspired by uh by your message in the book or people that you met uh while you were getting treatment who were having a tougher time than you did and were inspired by what you went through and did.
Uh Rush, I've heard from uh from quite a few people just like that, and uh very gratifying telling me that uh uh they were very uh very uh pleased to see what I was doing and uh they were fighting harder themselves.
What one incident involved uh uh good friend of uh of mine uh uh the husband of one of uh Joan, my wife's uh uh school girlfriends, uh uh Marvin Part uh lives out in Southern California now, and he uh has lymphoma.
And he uh became very dejected, uh very uh uh morose, uh wouldn't get out of bed, uh uh didn't pay any attention to his dog, which he uh loved dearly.
And uh uh we sent uh him an advanced copy of the book uh and uh uh he read it and uh a few days later uh his wife Harriet called Joan and said uh Marvin read Arlen's book and uh he said if uh Arlen Specter can do it, so can I. He said, Get me my clothes.
He got dressed, he walked the dog, and he uh got out of bed and uh for the first time uh in weeks.
And uh uh physically uh he was the same guy uh before he read the book uh that he was after he read the book.
But uh the the example and uh the personal touch uh uh led him to say, well, if uh Arland can do it, uh so can I, and uh uh he got out.
That's exactly where purpose in writing the book that has to be heartwarming for you.
Well, it really it really is, uh Rush uh when when when when you're when you're somewhat in the public eye uh and and people know what you're doing, especially because I had all the exposure during the Roberts and Alito hearings.
Uh I I I wanted to tell the story.
It's a little more open, frankly, than I feel comfortable doing, but but it doesn't have any real uh meaning or impact if uh you don't let let it all hang out there.
So when when I when I hear about people uh responding to it and uh finding it a little easier to cope, it's uh uh very gratifying.
Uh a couple other things here before we go, and I've got a roughly four four and a half five minutes.
What's the status of uh important judicial confirmations uh on nominations sent up by President Bush?
I I know that there are very few that happened during the final year of a two-term president.
Where are we saying compared to uh uh the number of judges you Republicans confirmed for President Clinton in his final year?
Well, we're way behind for President Bush and the last two years of Clinton, he confirmed we can earn fifteen circuit judges and for President Bush only six.
On uh uh district judges the last two years for Clinton fifty uh four and the last uh up till now only uh uh thirty-seven.
So we've uh uh we've got a long way to go.
Rush, we haven't had one single federal judge confirmed in two thousand eight.
And uh we had uh a hearing we didn't have a hearing on a circuit judge since between uh September of two thousand seven and uh late February two thousand eight.
And we are uh we're we're we're reviewing our options now to see if we can find some way to uh uh exert enough pressure to get a little fairness here.
Well who leads that if is it you because you're on judiciary, is it Senator McConnell and who do you talk to?
Pat Lahey or do you talk to Harry Reid?
Uh uh all uh all of the above.
Uh uh I've taken the lead on it and I wrote uh Senator Leahy a very tough lawyer letter a couple of weeks ago and went to the floor and uh and laid it on the line.
And uh I've talked to uh uh Senator McConnell, the leader, about uh our options, and I've uh brought it up uh uh with uh my colleagues uh we have lunch on Tuesday, and I even talked to Senator well, I've talked to Senator Lay about it a lot, and I've talked to Senator Reed about it.
Uh but uh it's up to me to take the lead and to be backed up by uh Mitch McConnell and then to be backed up by the caucus.
And as I say, we're weighing very heavily now uh uh what we may be able to do.
I don't want to start something rush unless I'm prepared to go through it.
Uh Phil Phil Graham had a great statement.
He said, Never take a hostage, you're not prepared to shoot.
Great uh great statement.
It is, it is.
Oh, that that's pretty descriptive of what you face.
Well final f final question is I'm dealing with just a couple of minutes here.
A lot of football fans in this audience.
Uh since the Super Bowl, we've heard very little about this guy in Hawaii, Matt Walsh, that claims to have videotape of the New England Patriots in the St. Louis Rams uh walkthrough the Saturday before their Super Bowl.
What's the status of that?
Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between uh Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers.
I've seen the letters.
Uh uh Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality.
And I believe in a an objective and fair reading of those letters is that the NFL is discouraging Walsh from uh from coming forward.
Really?
Because they're putting their statements are just the exact opposite.
Well, the NFL says they're trying to encourage him.
And I issued the challenge to uh to uh uh the commissioner uh uh a couple of Saturdays ago, and they put out a Sunday release that they were making substantial progress.
Well, uh we've had almost two weeks uh since that Sunday release and nothing and nothing has happened.
And uh uh I I I believe those listen, I think the NFL has a duty to uh of integrity.
They have an antitrust exemption, which gives them a preferred position.
They uh uh they uh uh are role models.
If you can cheat in the FNL, you can cheat in college or high school or your sixth grade math test.
And uh uh I think ultimately, Rush, if we get enough uh fire under it, uh they're gonna have to show show those letters, and when they do, uh they're gonna have to change their tune and let Walsh testify because uh those reports are uh looking pretty strong that there was a filming for the 2002 Super Bowl.
Senator Ten Seconds, enough time to thank you for your appearance here today.
Congratulations on your book.
It's extremely uh well done, and congratulations on your uh your recovery from the disease.
Thank you very much for your time today.
Great talking, Russia.
Thank you.
You bet.
Oh, yes, my friends, having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Operation chaos.
New York governor David Patterson admitted yesterday that he may have improperly build his campaign for at least one hotel tryst with his girlfriend.
We're getting close to needing a new governor in New York again after this guy's only been there.
This is his first week, right?
The hotel trist apparently listed as constituent services.
Uh New York Daily News Review found that in a handful of other campaign expenditures, David Patterson may have used campaign funds to cover personal expenses and misstated their purpose in uh public disclosure form.
You know what?
These people, these Democrats are turning practically everything they do into a joke.
Now, this Obama stuff, that stuff is serious.
This, you know, opening these race wounds like this, taking us back 30, 40 years, making it look like no progress has been made.
What Barack Obama has done, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say something here that might offend or not offend, but might make some uncomfortable.
But it is clear to me that there has been a major transformation in Senator Obama.
And it is this.
Up until the videos of the right Reverend Wright showed up.
Barack Obama had succeeded in transcending race.
And there were a lot of people on the Republican side too, who felt really good about the guy.
He was smart, well spoken, he was competent.
Uh he was able to excite crowds.
He looked young and fresh and new, and furthermore, he was black, but it didn't matter to him.
He he transcended race.
Then the Reverend Wright stuff hits.
And that's I mean, there's no escaping this.
I don't care what kind of speech you make, with average Americans, forget the drive-bys, with average Americans, there's no escaping that.
There's no escaping what people heard Reverend Wright said, and if, as I have heard some drive-by media analysts say, if most white people in America were shocked at Reverend Wright, when uh we are told that Reverend Wright's not that uncommon in America in terms of black churches, and what he said is not that uncommon in terms of what many black Americans believe.
Uh white America shocked, thought so much more progress had been made on this.
And so Obama, in dealing with this, has thrown his white grandmother under the bus, and then yesterday drove the bus backwards and ran over her where he threw her under the bus by calling her a typical white woman.
So all typic typical white what typical white no typical white woman, typical white person, whatever, typical white person.
Uh and now uh it it is it is clear, and this is the stuff this is part that might bother some of you.
It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half.
That he's he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side, and therefore, I t I think I saw this I saw this uh uh endorsement, Bill Richardson.
Well, it's grab grab sound by 22.
Bill Richardson's showing up with goatee and a and a dangling mustache, like Fooman Shue with the beer with uh with little goatee there.
That's not by accident, ladies and gentlemen.
You know, there's a big argument in the between the Hispanic community, black community, however, who is the official American minority.
Because the official American minority gets the goodies.
And so there's animosity.
And I'm thinking we might be looking at the Democrat ticket here.
Uh and and what little I was able to listen to because of commercial breaks never exist.
Richardson was on fire.
Here is the um uh actual endorsement that we got today of Obama from Bill Richardson.
Barack Obama, you're a leader who has shown courage, judgment, and wisdom throughout the years.
You understand the security challenges of the 21st century.
And you will be an outstanding commander in chief.
Above all, you will be a president who brings this nation together and restores American global leadership.
Your candidacy, and this is an expression of your candidacy, is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for our nation, and you are a once-in-a-lifetime leader.
Make every American proud to be an American.
And I am very proud today to endorse your candidacy for Clinton.
Now, as I said earlier, there have never been any tell all books on the Clinton administration from members of it.
But I'll tell you a lot of Clinton people, ex-Clinton people are certainly endorsing the anti-Clinton.
I mean, they're they they're they run from 'em in droves here.
Uh not all of them, but a lot of them are.
Uh well, I don't I don't know.
Bill was probably Richardson might have been holding out, you know, endorse whoever would make him VP, and the Clinton kind of campaign might have said, sorry, bud's not you.
Uh Obama might have said, Well, you're in the running and you're near you're in the top tier.
I don't know if they've made a deal yet, but I just I thought, because Richardson was on fire, and Obama looked really beat down.
He was hang dog.
He was his head was hanging, he laughed a couple times toward the end of uh Richardson speaker.
Richardson was the one out there yelling and screaming and uh all animated and everything.
So it's gonna be interesting that I but that clearly now uh the original initial attraction to Obama is gone and and it and it's his doing, uh, and now he's had to shift gears.
Uh one of the best things I may have ever read on race was posted yesterday at the American thinker.com by a contributor there by the name of Ed Cates, K-A-I-T-Z.
And it's entitled Obama's Anger.
Let me read you some excerpts of this.
Back in the late 1980s, I was on a plane flying out of New Orleans.
I was sitting next to me, it was a rather interesting and according to Barack Obama, unusual black man.
Friendly, gregarious, and wise beyond his years, we immediately hit it off.
I'd been working with the on Vietnamese commercial fishing boats for a few years in southern Louisiana.
The boats were owned by the recent wave of Vietnamese refugees who flooded into the familiar tropical environment after the war.
Floating in column seas out in the middle of Gulf of Mexico, I would hear tearful songs and tales from ex-paratroopers about losing brothers, sisters, parents, children, lovers, uh, and beautiful Vietnam itself to the communists.
In Bayou country, I lived on boats and in double wide trailers, and like the rest of the Vietnamese refugees.
I shopped at Walmart, ate a lot of rice.
When they arrived in Louisiana, the refugees had no money.
The money that they had had was used to bribe their way out of Vietnam and into refugee camps in Thailand.
They had few friends and a mostly unfriendly and suspicious local population, but they did, however, have strong families.
They had a strong work ethic and the audacity of hope.
Within a generation, with little or no knowledge of English, the Vietnamese had achieved dominance in the fishing industry there.
Their children were already achieving the top SAT scores in the state of Louisiana.
While I had been fishing, my new Black friend had been working as a prison psychologist in Missouri, and he was pursuing a higher degree in psychology.
He was interested in my story, and after about an hour getting to know each other, I asked him point blank why these Vietnamese refugees with no money and no friends or knowledge of the language could be within a generation so successful.
I also asked him why it was so difficult to convince young black men to abandon the streets and take advantage of the same kinds of opportunities that the Vietnamese had recently embraced.
His answer, with only a few words, not only floored me, but became a sort of a razor that has allowed me ever since to slice through all the rhetoric regarding race relations that Democrats shovel our way during election season.
He said to me, Well, we're owed.
And the Vietnamese aren't.
In short, he concluded, the Vietnamese are hungry, and we think we're owed.
It's crushing us.
And as long as we think we're owed, we're going nowhere.
A good test case for this theory is Katrina.
Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, assorted white apologists, continue to express anger and outrage over the federal response to the Katrina disaster.
But where were the Vietnamese leaders expressing their anger?
The Vietnamese comprise a substantial part of the New Orleans population, and yet they are absent.
Any report claiming that the Vietnamese were owed anything.
This is not to say that the federal response was an adequate one, but we need to take this as a sign that maybe the problem has very little to do with racism and a lot to do with mindset.
The mindset that one is owed.
Something in life has not only affected black mobility in business, but black mobility in education as well.
Remember Ward Churchill?
About fifteen years ago he was my boss.
After leaving the fishing boats, I attended graduate school, University of Colorado, Boulder.
I managed to get a job on campus teaching expository writing to minor excuse me, minority students who had been accepted provisionally into the university on an affirmative action program.
And although I never met him, Ward Churchill, in addition to teaching in the ethnic studies department, helped to develop and organize the minority writing program.
Job paid most of my bills, but what I witnessed there was absolutely horrifying.
The students were encouraged to write essays attacking the white establishment from every conceivable angle, and in addition to defend affirmative action and other government programs.
Of the hundreds of papers that I read, there was not one original contribution to the problem of black mobility that strayed from the party line.
Ethnic studies, sociology majors, because it allowed them to remain in disciplines whose orientation justified their existence in the university.
In short, it became a vicious cycle.
The piece goes on, and it's got another page and a half here to go.
We know that Barack Obama really has no interest in the audacity of hope.
The second to last paragraph.
With his race speech, Obama became a peddler of angst, resentment, and despair.
Too bad he doesn't direct that angst at the liberal establishment that was has sold black people a bill of goods since the 1960s.
What Obama seems angry about is America itself and what it stands for, the same America that has provided fabulous opportunities for what my black friend called hungry minority.
Strong families, self-reliance, a spirit of entrepreneurship should be held up as ideals for all races to emulate.
Eric Hoffer said, You don't win the weak by sharing your wealth with them.
It will but infect them with greed and resentment.
You can win the weak only by sharing your pride, your hope, and your hatred with them.
In the end, we should be very suspicious about Obama's anger and the recent frothings of his close friend Reverend Wright.
Again, says Eric Coffer, the fact seems to be that we are at least open to precise knowledge concerning the things we are most vehement about.
Vemance is the expression of a blind effort to support and uphold something that can never stand on its own.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
All right, we go back to the phones.
Um Friday.
I really appreciate all you being as patient as you have been.
Uh, this is David in Millinockett, Maine.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello there.
Hello there.
We're owed.
We're owed, my large white ass we're owed.
Oh my gosh.
If Snerdley's comments to me on the phone motivated me to clarify my thoughts, this we're owed mentality pisses me off royally, Rush.
Uh I'd like to give a quick shout-out, though, first of the two unhappiness national level politicians in the country right now, John Kerry and Andrew Cuomo.
What must these two be thinking?
Uh also a quick word to the uh your former caller, uh, early caller, uh Paris.
I got rid of television reception fifteen years ago last month, and I haven't looked back.
Well, that can improve anybody's outlook.
Oh my gosh.
Um I thanks to uh Mr. Surdley's comments, I I've decided to kind of couch the question a little more delicately.
Uh it's not about for me.
It's not a question about race.
It's a question about opening up the floodgates, and just how much more do we have to do as a society for people.
Um I'm gonna throw out at the R word, the other R word, reparations.
Civil war era reparations.
Given Obama's uh relations, uh uh given given the uh the preacher's uh comments, uh the hate speech coming out of this guy and Obama's twenty-year association with the guy.
Um I I just have to wonder whether or not a liberal Congress, the Congressional Black Caucus, civil rights leaders, and um others are gonna have heightened expectations about uh civil civil uh war era reparations.
And this is personal for me.
This is not just uh uh a race or reparation.
Well, you know, this is the we don't know.
This is this is one of the problems here that we that we don't know.
We've got Obama's 20-year association with this hate monger.
We know that he has subjected his two daughters to this hate monger.
We know that he has finally said that he has found some of what the hate monger said repugnant, and yet he disowns nor dissociates himself from the man.
He instead trashes white America in the form of throwing his grandmother under the bus.
Now I wonder if his grandmother was enough of a racist that when his grandmother found out that her daughter was gonna marry Obama's dad, who was Kenyan, black, if the grandmother said, No, no, no, you can't do I don't know this.
But wouldn't a genuine racist have tried that?
This is the woman that raised him.
Now we go back to Reverend Wright.
Reverend Wright has spoken out in favor of reparations.
There are quite a few civil rights leaders who have over the years.
There have been some members of the Congressional Black Caucus who have.
We cannot just sit here and assume that because of the way Obama has presented himself prior to Reverend Wright's uh mass exposure, because up until that time, no.
This is what I meant about him transcending race.
This guy is he's not he has to go down there to sell and put on a fake accent to make it look like he's down for the struggle.
Uh he has no direct link to the civil rights struggles of blacks in this country, has none whatsoever.
Oh, but he does, doesn't he?
No, no, no, direct, but he's got the cred, thanks to Reverend Wright.
So, Reverend Wright's a mentor.
We don't know if we're looking at somebody here who, after their elected president, is going to move forward on reparations.
We don't know.
We'd like to think, based on our impression of Obama before Reverend, no, he's not that that's that's uh that's that's kook stuff.
You can't it ain't gonna happen.
But we don't know.
And with his reluctance to dissociate himself and disown Reverend Wright, and now with his transformation here into a you know a full-fledged uh black candidate now, as one as opposed to one who has transcended race.
Uh it's it's it's a decent question only because we'd have to assume one way or the other.
Well, I don't think he would do that.
I'm telling you, just two weeks ago, nobody would have thought that that'd be anywhere on Obama's mind.
Until we learned about Reverend Wright.
So I can't answer it, and neither can anybody else.
And to the extent that that concerns people, it may be relevant.
Try this headline, ABC News, Obama campaign claims Clinton has character gap.
A sales rival is untrustworthy and duplicitous.
Can you can you imagine how horrible Obama's internal polls must look right now?
So it's time to lash out at Hillary.
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